When I take timed sections/tests, I try to take my time and ignore the clock. Usually, I end up doing relatively well by focusing on accuracy rather than finishing on time (scoring in mid-high 160s). However, it is a bit discouraging knowing that when I blind review and take my time with all the questions, I get almost all questions correct. It's discouraging because I know my untimed potential, but it is completely different from my timed results. For background: this is the case with pretty much every section and I think I get stuck in the choices sometimes (especially for LR).

How did anyone with similar issues overcome them? How long did it take? Should I focus on being very strict with timing myself? Or, will I naturally get over the hump eventually?

Hello sagers. I am in doubt about this. I have a terrific GPA in undergrad. 3.85. My LSAT performance is dismal. I am thinking of accepting an offer from a school which accepts lower tiers LSAT and possibly transfer from there to my school of choice later. is that a good strategy? I don't want to lose anymore time on dreaming im going to do well on the LSAT. I really dont have time to study like many of you i must work for a living and its hard to find time, even tough i put at least 20 hours a week to study. im all over the place. sometimes i do well sometimes i do not so i really cant gauge my level of performance.....

i really want to put the lsat on my rearviewmirror and start law school asap. I know I will do well in law school. its my dream to be there and I will succeed, but the lsat is really pushing me back.

Should i persist on the LSAT or should i enroll in a school that is not really a choice.....and try to transfer.

What say you?

Any comments are welcome.

Is there any information I can glean from this language. Is it truly neutral? Just saw this on a status checker. Thanks.

Hi, so I took the first practice LSAT in the course (June 2007). I found that I'm very, very good at finding the right answers, but it takes me longer than 35 minutes. I was wondering if anyone else has been having this problem? When I don't try to answer everything in 35 minutes, I get only a few wrong. It's frustrating because the explanations to each answer make total sense to me, but I missed the question because i had to start rushing through my thought process in order to fit them in 35 minutes.

Hi everyone,

I recently joined the ultimate+ course after using the "lawschooli Mastermind" program for about 6 months (wish I had found 7sage earlier). Although I did establish a solid foundation on all aspects of the LSAT using the Mastermind program, I still have a few significant gaps in learning. I have already signed up for the June 2018 test and can still take it if I choose. As of right now, I am not PTing in my desired score range of at least 165. Since I am not a complete beginner at the LSAT, I plan on using the September 2018 test as my new date (assuming my PT score follows).

Would it be a bad idea to take the June 2018 test, knowing that I am not PTing in my desired range, in order to get over the feeling of taking the real test? (Basically overcoming "1st test anxiety") Since my plan is to be fully prepared by September I want the September test to go as smoothly as possible. Basically my idea for taking the June test would be to see what doing the real thing feels like apart from my full PT testing practice. Should I take the June test, knowing I am not as prepared as I should be, OR wait until September when I am hopefully PTing in my desired score range? Any advice is appreciated!

Made this after a recent foray into LR practice.

My BR and Actual Scores are the same for the last 3 PT's! I take my PT on Saturdays and BR for about 1 hour per section...Except for Reading Comp. I don't know how to BR that section....Anyway. I've improved A LOT since I started (135 to 154) since taking the December test. I want to get to 160 but I don't know what I'm doing wrong in my BR's.

#help

Does anyone have any solid examples of an excel sheet they put together to help track their progress other than the analytics feature that comes with our package? I can shoot someone my email if need be..

Greetings, my new friends,

I am excited to explore 7Sage and get to know you. This Fall I will start final year of undergraduate and I want to start studying the LSAT this summer.

I work about 58 hours a week and on a given day I may have one or two 30-45 minute periods of free time that I can use to study. Does anyone have any schedule or approach suggestions that might be helpful to me this summer as I begin my LSAT journey? I am doubtful that I can find two hours a day to study at this point...

Thank you for your time and consideration,

Trevor

My house is filled to the brim with distractions, and at times I go to a local cafe to study for hours on end, but I'm debating whether it is worth it to go to a place with less distraction for more focused studying, or should I stay put at home and practice testing despite loud noises, conversations and a great deal of general noise outside? Any and all strategies are appreciated.

Hi guys, I haven’t been able to find the answer to this, so I’ll post it here. I’m about a year and a half away from my bachelors and I want to start LSAT Prep, but know I won’t be able to tend to it daily. Do these courses expire after a certain amount of time after purchasing?

Hey guys, so I recently decided to postpone from taking the June 2018 to June 2019. Now with all this extra time on my hands I'm trying to figure out how to pace myself. I've been studying about 2 hours/day during the week and 3 hours/day on weekends (working full time + two kids). I want to start with the CC and then once I work through it upgrade to the Ultimate package, but I'm also seeing talk of the Trainer by Mike Kim? Any advice on what rate to pace myself at as to not run out of preptests, go too slowly as to not be actively involved, and also if purchasing the Starter now and upgrading as I progress throughout the next 14 months?

Backround: my diagnostic is 157, the highest I've scored is 161, I want high 160s to low 170s (or higher obv.)

I wanted to gauge an unscientific poll. Let's say you graduated law school and graduated at the top of your class and you pass the bar exam at the top scorers. Let's say you had a big bankroll to support you for the rest of your life, and you still yearn to practice law regardless how much dinero you had.

I will start. I will say country lawyer for myself where I don't have the stress of living in the city and serve the same clients in a small town. Go ahead and post your opinion. There are no right or wrong answers.

16personalities.com

There is a lot of good criticism of the personality test, but I still think it's interesting to discuss..esp. in ctxt of the LSAT. Wondering if certain personality types (like analysts) actually tend to do better on the LSAT. I found very limited data with a google search. Thought the forum could be a good place to talk about it, criticize the test, and perhaps get into a nature vs. nurture debate :)

-Sam

I am having difficulty with strengthen/weaken questions and noticed that Nicole Hopkins' webinar on Strengthen and Weaken questions from two years ago was mentioned in numerous threads. Is there a way to access that webinar or is there a webinar currently available that is similar to the one she created? Thank you!

Do you guys have any recommendations on standing desks i could get in law school. Extended times of sitting increases likelihood of developing cardiovascular issues. Do you have any tips on how to focus while reading and standing up?

Hi all, I posted this question on some other forums and there was a lot of division in the discussion so I've decided to post here as well for some further input.

I plan on applying to law school next cycle and I'm considering writing a diversity statement, but I'm not sure if I qualify/it would hurt my chances of admission.

Basically, growing up I was raised by a lesbian couple in a overwhelmingly Mormon neighborhood in the heart of Utah (I'm an IVF baby). I believe that because of my family background, I faced heavy discrimination/adversity growing up and that this adversity has heavily shaped the person that I am today. For example, in grade school most kids were disallowed/discouraged from talking or interacting with me due to my family background. I wasn't invited/allowed to participate in birthday parties, sleepovers, etc. Relentless bullying in school, teachers discriminated against my parents and I as well, and much much more.

Personally, I feel like this qualifies for a diversity statement, but I have two reservations...

I'm an otherwise normal straight white male, and I'm worried that this might disqualify me from being able to write a diversity statement. From reading around, it seems many believe that my position of privilege from my race/gender excludes experiencing the adversity that other LGBT/minority applicants have faced. It might sound silly, but I am worried that an admissions officer might disagree that my background qualifies as true diversity, and that this might negatively impact my application.

Clearly, the anti-LGBT stance of the Mormon church was one of the chief causes/influences of the adversity that I faced while young. I'm worried that if I write a diversity statement, it may come off as anti-religion, or otherwise offend the admissions council of these law schools.

What do you all think about this situation? Do you think I can write a diversity statement, or do you think it would be best to avoid the topic?

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Hey everyone,

I'm taking a step back and redoing the CC. When I first did it, I went through it too fast to internalize what I learned.

After abandoning the LSAT for a while, I've decided to come back strong for one last shot.

I want to hit 170+ and am around the 150 range right now.

My plan in order:

1.) Go through The LSAT Trainer (BOOK), while building up my RC skill.

2.) Mastering LR by revisiting the CC, mainly focusing what I most need improvement on.

3.) Pacifico’s Logic Games Attack Strategy

4.) PTs and BR.

Ill supplement my learning watching webinars, visiting discussion pages, and engaging with the 7Sage community.

I hope to make it in time for the Sept test, but we'll see.

Any other recommendations, advice or feedback? I definitely need it. (I imagine I'll be tweaking my study schedule a bit).

What's your plan?

Edit*

Here is Pacifico’s Logic Games Attack Strategy:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/2737/logic-games-attack-strategy/p1

I got approved for 50% extra time accommodations recently and I was wondering if I should be taking PTs and timed sections with the 52 minutes instead of the 35 minutes? Somewhere in-between?

Just wondering what some others with extra time are doing?

TY!

Hi all,

I've taken the LSAT before and scored a 164. I am currently PTing around 168-171. I'm retaking in June and would like to solidify my understanding of LR by helping someone who is scoring average to below average. If you are interested, please comment below or send me a direct message.

Thanks!

I go to a small liberal arts honors college (New College of Florida) which doesn't offer traditional grades. All of my classes are pass/fail and have a narrative evaluation system. Some of the places I've talked to don't want to see my evals at all, and will just bank my application on my LSAT. How much higher should I try to score to convince these schools to admit me?

Does anyone else have experience applying to schools with no GPA?

My diagnostic was 143.

Out of 4 tests in the past 4 weeks, my actual scores range from 149 to 159. I finished the CC several months ago. Ever since, I have been drilling and along some fool proofing. I have been trying to raise my competence in all sections, which is why I haven't done the1-36 fool proof yet. There has at least been some success in my efforts, as my BRs range from 172 to 177 - I don't know what my BR would have been on my diagnostic - I didn't know BR existed at the time.

I do take breaks every once and awhile. I've actually been taking a break for 4 days now, and I might stay away from any material for another day or two. I have been studying for this test since June of 2017 (I took August off because I was starting two new jobs and moved to new apartment). Given the fact that I have spent 9.5 months on the LSAT, as you can probably imagine, I'm conflicted with my progress. On one hand I am happy to see my BR be in the mid 170s; it took many hours and nights to get there. However, most importantly, I am frustrated that I'm averaging a 153 (roughly -7 to -10 on all section types). Some of this is attributed to lack of confidence/fear/anxiety, I'm sure. But, I've been around on these forums for quite some time now, and I don't recall seeing too many posts about people who have as great a difference between one's actual score vs BR score, which is unsettling.

I've read countless articles about this test, and my many hours of reading and research are telling me that speed is simply a measure of your level of understanding. So, how do I achieve that type of understanding? It seems that doing 35 minute timed sections isn't doing much for me at the moment, other than freak me out. Should I time myself doing a section and not stress the 35 minutes instead? It's weird because if I do timed sections in 35 minutes right now, I could form bad habits because I will be rushing. Too, I could form bad habits by doing sections with more time than what is normally allowed. Any suggestions as to what I should do in this respect? Should it be a combination of both?

My plan at the moment is to fool proof LG 1-36 and to get that down to -0. I also think focusing on LR and RC on the weekends so as to maintain what I have would be a good idea, but I plan on spending the bulk of weekdays doing full sections of LG and really trying to dissect how the games work. Beyond the fool proofing though, I really am at a loss as to what to do.

Thank you for your time.

P.S. - My goal is 170. My goal for quite some time now has been to take this thing in September - but the likelihood of that is decreasing as the days go by.

Registered late and the only option for me was Hilton..

Am I going to take a test inside the hotel? Did anyone took a test there? How was your experience.

Has anyone ever tested at the Marriott Washington Wardman Park? I was automatically reassigned to the Marriott from Trinity Washington which I belatedly heard is an awful test center, so I guess I got lucky. Curious if it's a new testing site or if anyone's been there and has insight into what to expect. Thanks!