So I'm taking my first LSAT in February, and I do work a full time job but plan on taking the Friday before the lsat off in order to have one last day of study. Now I usually study 3-4 hours Mon-Thurs and 12-16hrs on the weekend. But I want to get some advice on what I should be doing the day before the lsat. I was thinking about practice tests but I don't want to be burnt out either. So what should I study or do in order to give me a better chance for the lsat the next day.

Hi everyone! I'm pretty new to 7sage, but I've been reading a lot of the discussion posts and they are so incredibly helpful, so thank you for that!! I just took the December LSAT, and I had also signed for the February LSAT--- just in case things didn't go well. For those who are waiting for their scores and potentially planning on taking the test in February, how are you all studying? I admit I haven't been devoting the same number of hours studying as I was during the months leading up to December 2nd. I think it's partially due to the fact that I am waiting in anticipation for my scores, but I'm also trying to balance working on the soft factors of my law school applications as well. If any of you have any insight or experience with studying while waiting for your scores, I would greatly appreciate them! :)

Does anyone have the link to the 7sage tutor and their prices. I need one for logic games. Also someone that’s doesn’t cost a lot .

Hi! I was waitlisted by my first choice school:/I applied early decision, Ive already toured the campus, sat in a class and met with the Dean of Students so Im not sure as to what more I can do besides sending in a LOCI, does anyone have any advice or tips on being waitlisted? TYA!!!!!!!!

Im working my way through PTing the 60s. My question is whether or not the 70s LR is much different from the 60s LR? Just curious.

I want to apply now, but I don’t have my December scores yet. Do I have to call each school individually and tell them to hold off until my December scores are available? And do they automatically get the scores once LSAC releases them ?

Hi everyone,

I am currently trying to decide whether to take the February 2018 LSAT or the June 2018 LSAT. Starting my studies, I knew I wanted to get at least a 173. So, when I started studying in June of 2017 and got a 153, I was a little worried. However, I took a course and finished with a 165 in September of 2017. I had to take basically a semester off from studying, and have just been able to get back into it since school ended for winter break. My strategy now is to take around 3 tests a week (Monday, Wednesday, and Friday). I've been able to take four tests so far, and I've gotten a 166, 167, 170, and 174 in that order. Since I have improved a lot in a short period, I was thinking that it would be okay to take the February LSAT so long as I continue to consistently score in 170s, preferably above 172. My only concern is that I improved by 9 points basically in a week and a half, and I guess it hasn't soaked in yet that I'm in my desired range. It would make me feel a lot better if I consistently scored in my target range for a long time. However, it would be really nice to get the LSAT out of the way, and I am worried that I will run out of practice tests to take between now and June.

What do you think?

When will the app be updated for the iPhone X?

Just a positive statement for all those having a bad day of studying. Even though it seems like you're not getting "it," you will. Rome was not built in 1 day!

To all those having a good day, utilize it and keep pushing forward. Revisit topics you feel week on. You are your biggest weakness if you do not address them!

Now lets all go score some 180s.

I just made the mistake of looking at past grey day threads. Now I feel the anxiety. How do you guys deal with waiting? Any grey day drinking games? Take a shot every time you read "grey."

@"Dillon A. Wright" Hey Dillon, not sure if you remember, but last time we talked I had issues accessing my notes because there were so many. I know you told me you fixed it, but I'm having the same issue. Can you please look at it for me?

If I could somehow transfer all notes into a word doc or if you have some other idea in order to clear up space so this doesn't happen anymore, let me know. I'll be honest, I take a lot of notes, it helps me study.

Thanks,

Anthony

Hi everyone!

I started studying over the summer using the LSAT Trainer. While it was helpful to understand some concepts, I'm not even close to where I want to be scoring, which is 170+ for the June test. I'm especially weak on Logic Games. I'm on winter break until the end of January and I wanted to try 7Sage. How long does it take to complete the Starter or Premium course?

Hello everyone,

Hope you guys are enjoying your weekend! I wanted to get your thoughts on using religion/atheism on my PS.

Basically, my PS's main theme is about me overcoming my fears and how they've influenced my character and confidence, which eventually enabled me to realize my purpose to become an attorney.

One of the things I wanted to briefly write about was how denouncing my faith publicly was a big step for me, since I was being true to myself and unafraid of what my family and friends thoughts were about this.

What have you guys heard, or what are your thoughts on writing about faith/religion on PS's? Thanks in advance!

Does the connection need to be VERY strong between "the experience" and "why law school"? My road to wanting to be a lawyer is long and boring/somewhat cliche. My experience living and working in San Francisco for a year and some of the things that I dealt with during that time is so much more interesting and is personal in the way that I think it should be. I have a deep connection to my PS, I cried while I was writing it, my sister cried when I read it to her, my mom cried. My goal isn't for it to be sad, they had a deeper connection with it than an admissions person would, so I don't think it's sappy. It says what I want them to know about me and describes an important time in my life, but the connection to law isn't incredibly obvious. Suggestions?

One app specifically says that they already know I want to be a lawyer, and that I really shouldn't try to convince them how serious I am about that. Others seem to want a "why law school" PS. Anybody want to read it and let me know if you can see the "why law school" connection?

Does anyone know if LSAC is still offering the refund for February if you signed up for December/feb together like they offered? Thanks!

Hi,

So I made a typo in my PS. I know it's completely my fault and it is stupid.

I already submitted my apps to my top choices ( about 6). Should I email them edited version?! HELP!!

Does it matter what pt is use to foolproof and timed full test and sections ? I did pt36 as my first set of games to foolproof and I got 3 games out of 4 down after repeating each 3x. But wen I went to fool proof one of the game that was super hard JP mention if I haven’t done a lot of games I should skip it..

I've taken two LSAT practice tests, and both times I've scored in the upper 150s. I'm hoping to get at least 170 in February 2018. My issue is that once I know a question is wrong, I can get the right answer without any kind of explanation (i.e. I see that my answer is red on 7Sage's score/review so I go back to the question without seeing the green, correct choice). It seems like most of my mistakes are from carelessness (perhaps reading too quickly or feeling short on time). I haven't actually run out of time on either practice test, though, so I'm wondering if I should slow down and focus on accuracy before timing myself?

LR is my weakest subject, but I can't pinpoint an exact question type that I need to drill more. I tried drilling specific question types for improvement (mainly flaw, NA, and SA) using 7Sage videos, but I typically get over 90% correct when it's only practicing one kind of question. Since I also only have two months left for improvement, it feels tedious reviewing every LR question type.

Does anyone have suggestions for improving my score? My LG is nearly perfect, RC is iffy (-5 and -7), and LR is the worst. I'm tempted to just do 3-4 practice tests every week to better pace and familiarize myself with seeing a bunch of different LR questions at once. I know most people recommend 2 practice tests max per week, though, with drilling in between, so I'm not sure what to do.

Any advice is much appreciated!

Hello everyone. I have finished the trial portion of 7Sage. However, I am still confused on how to do Blind Review. Here is my understanding of how to do it:

First off, are we taking the test twice (once time and then untimed)? When I input my answers into the grader after blind review, do I only enter answers that I am 100% sure about? If so, then some answers would be blank. Or should there be no unanswered questions after you do blind review? Should we circle questions we are unsure about when we do the test timed?

Let me know your thoughts.

-Amanda

So, I am close to being done drilling LRs from 1-20 (21-30 going to save), then going to start doing LR sections individually timed from 30-50 (not all going to save some for drilling and full PT).

At the same time I am fool-proofing Games 1-35 (6-10 games; 1-3 sections), as well as 1-2 un-timed RC sections a day.

I am studying FT until the Feb exam, my concern is on the new LSATs I have read there are some differences, such as rule substitution on games, and with RC i have not yet ran into comparison passages.

Essentially, if anyone could suggest when these changes occur and what PTs i should have as "must-do" to study at least a few weeks before the exam, so i can start to get a feel for them.

my goal is 2 PTs a week for January combined with drilling, fool-proofing, BR.

update: i just found some information on this in the CC buried between PTs. Any advice would still be welcomed.

Hi 7Sage -

I live rurally, so I'm looking for some people to study with on Skype or hangouts. I'm scoring around 170. Scorers below or above that are welcome, we can help each other review/go through problems and questions together. If anyone's interested hit me and we can coordinate. Flexible and eager to teach and learn!

Thanks and good luck! (3(/p)

Let's admit it: studying sucks. What do you do to get hype and stay motivated? For me it's a trifecta: I put on my favorite hoodie from my dream school that I picked up on a visit last month, chew Orbit peppermint gum to keep me awake and listen to Bach in the background. What about you? :-)

Hi all,

I saw a 7sager already posted a similar question (see https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/13716), but I'm less confused about what happens, and more so how we made the decision in the first place.

I was doing a problem set in which one of the rules was "F is not included in the same group as N."

At first, I drew it out as F ----> /N, which is a "not both" rule. However, when given a new premise (/F), it failed the sufficient and I didn't know what to do anymore/couldn't go any further.

Going back to JY's video explanation, I saw that he drew it out as a bi-conditional F (----) /N. When given /F, then we can conclude N is in. And then the answer is very clear.

My question is, how are we supposed to know when to use a bi-conditional and when to use a not both rule? What triggers the use of a bi-conditional? The rule "F is not included in the same group as N" spoke to me as a "not both" rule, but could also speak as a bi-conditional [(either) or but not both].

Hey 7Sagers! I had a student ask for some pointers and tips regarding applications with a February LSAT and a low previous score and I immediately thought of our wonderful community.

Do you guys have any tips or pointers to share?

LSAC released a report on accommodated test-taking trends:

https://www.lsac.org/docs/default-source/research-(lsac-resources)/tr-17-03.pdf

"This report examined trends and performance of accommodated test takers for the June 2012 through February 2017 LSAT administrations. Trends with regard to the request for and approval of testing accommodations, types of accommodations approved, and the demographic makeup of the accommodated test takers, were examined. The overall performance of the accommodated test takers was examined and compared to the performance of the Nonaccommodated group, and the performance of Accommodated/Extra Time test takers who repeated the test a second time was also studied. In general, it was observed that the number of accommodation requests submitted by test takers with documented disabilities and both the number and percentage of accommodations approved greatly increased over the current report years. These increases reflect policy changes dictated by the Consent Decree beginning with the June 2014 LSAT administration. However, the proportion of those who received approval for an accommodation and who then went on to take an accommodated LSAT remained fairly steady at 65–77%.

With regard to the distribution of accommodated test takers across various demographic subgroups, these subgroups were in some ways similar to, and in some ways different from, those in the Nonaccommodated subgroup. Male accommodated test takers were more prevalent among the Accommodated group compared to the Nonaccommodated group. While the representations of Native American and Hispanic/Latino test takers in the Accommodated group were similar to those found in the Nonaccommodated group, the African American and Asian test-taking subgroups were underrepresented and the Caucasian/White test-taking subgroup was overrepresented in the Accommodated group compared to the Nonaccommodated group. Trends with regard to LSAT performance for accommodated test takers have changed during the current report years, with those in the Accommodated/Extra Time subgroup scoring higher than those in the Nonaccommodated group in 18 of the 20 administrations and those testing in the Accommodated/Standard Time subgroup scoring higher than those in the Nonaccommodated group in 12 of the 20 LSAT administrations. Score gains for Accommodated/Extra Time repeat test takers were almost the same as those observed for the Nonaccommodated group but higher for those who first tested under nonaccommodated conditions and then switched to accommodated/extra-time testing conditions. The trends presented in this report are purely descriptive in nature. While trends with regard to the Accommodated group have been described and compared to trends in the Nonaccommodated group, explanation of the underlying causes of any differences observed is beyond the scope of this report. More specifically, those included in the sample of accommodated test takers being analyzed are, in several respects, selfselected. These test takers chose to take the LSAT and to request accommodated testing conditions, and then self-reported their subgroup membership with regard to such factors as gender, race/ethnicity, and age"

It also released a report on the predictive validity of accommodated test-taking with respect to first year law school grades:

https://www.lsac.org/docs/default-source/research-(lsac-resources)/tr-17-04.pdf

"Predictive validity of LSAT score, undergraduate grade point average (UGPA), and Index score (which includes both LSAT score and UGPA combined) was assessed using first-year average (FYA) as the criterion. Results from this study suggest that LSAT scores, UGPAs, and Index scores for Accommodated/Extra Time test takers tend to overpredict FYAs. Additionally, results indicate that LSAT scores, UGPAs, and Index scores predict FYAs relatively well when accommodations unrelated to timing were given."

Conclusion:

"Results from this study suggest that LSAT scores obtained under accommodated/extra-time testing conditions are not comparable to LSAT scores obtained under nonaccommodated testing conditions. In particular, LSAT scores among test takers in the Accommodated/Extra Time subgroup tend to overpredict law school performance as measured by FYAs. This finding of overprediction is consistent with prior findings for LSAT scores and scores on other large-scale standardized tests (e.g., Braun et al., 1986a, 1986b). In addition, relative to others in their entering class, the ranked standing of these test takers with regard to their first-year performance tended to be substantially lower than their ranked standing with regard to their LSAT score. A similar result was found for their Index score, but this phenomenon was not as evident for their entering-class UGPA ranked standing. In contrast, no substantial evidence was found to suggest that LSAT scores obtained by test takers in the Accommodated/Standard Time subgroup are not comparable to those for the Nonaccommodated group. "