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Hi All,

I want to have all my apps in by end of February and really want to enroll in Fall 2018. I am currently scoring in the150s and studying while working full time ( been studying since end of July). I plan to take December's test and then study all of January ( hopefully not working at all) and take again in February.

Wondering if anyone could help weigh in on whether or not this sounds crazy... I am 30 and don't want to wait another year to go to law school, but do currently have student loan debt from a Masters in Studio Art so scholarship $$ will be a significant factor.

Thanks,

P

Looking for advice as to how comfortable you should be with a section (LR, LG, RC) before moving onto the next one. Is it best to feel extremely confident in the section before moving on, or should I just try to make my way through the CC before working towards mastery?

Hey guys,

I recently finished the core curriculum and began doing preptests. On my last two (PT 39 and PT 42) I got a 148, but in the BR i got a 167 and 170 respectively. I feel as though I have enough grasp of the material, but under timed conditions I either have to skip a lot of questions that I dont have time to come back to, or I try and rush though them all and get a bunch wrong.

Would I benefit from doing individual sections timed, or should i go back and do problem sets? I'm a little confused. Any tips that has worked for you in the past in terms of getting your timed score closer to your BR?? Would greatly appreciate any help!

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3kvv3n/i-took-the-lsat-with-zero-preparation

Came across this earlier today and thought I'd share. Interesting outside perspective of what we've all been doing for months.

If a 158 was essentially his diagnostic, he'd do well after some 7-Sage fool-proofing!! (Also, I want to know how he did on judicial candor lol)

Hey I have a question for those consistently scoring 170 or above. During a timed test, do you actually read and eliminate all 4 answer choices (AC) before moving on? Do you think it's a better use of your time to just choose the AC that seems right and quickly move forward (and not 100% read and consciously eliminate all the other AC's before moving on)? As I am getting better, sometimes the right AC just pops out at me, or it very closely matches my prephrase, so I have a strong feeling it is right. I am still struggling with timing (If I could have 38 min, I'd do so much better!), so those last few minutes really count for me.

I think this is a convergence of timing and confidence issues for me. If I felt very confident in an AC, I could move on quickly and use that time I would have spent eliminating wrong AC's on a harder question. But I have read over and over that the highest scorers always find a reason to eliminate 3-4 AC's before choosing their correct AC and moving on to the next question.

One concern I have with the approach of sticking to what pops out at me, is that a highly attractive trap answer might 'pop out' at me, and then I have confirmation bias when trying to quickly skim and eliminate other ACs.

Any insights or tips from the high scorers (170+) on how you approach timing and confidently choosing an AC would be appreciated! I feel more confident choosing an AC in LG and moving on without eliminating the other 4 choices, more than I do doing that in LR or RC.

I've only seen a handful of these, but they popped up on September 2017 and PrepTest 75.

Their question stems are "Which one of the following is most appropriate as an analogy demonstrating that the reasoning in the argument above is flawed?"

And the answer choices look like:

"By that line of reasoning, we could conclude that it is better to eat red meat than to eat fish, since red meat is cheaper and more accessible to everyone else."

I haven't seen question types like this covered in the core curriculum, and I have no idea how to approach them.

Any suggestions?

Per Spivey Twitter:

“This is huge and breaking news. In multiple tweets. The ABA Council has recommended...

...that every law school can determine what makes a test valid and reliable for itself or whether or not it will even require an admission test...

As of this moment we are unsure of this recommendation needs to be finalized, or if it is a final decision.”

Thoughts?

Hey Everyone,

I was scrolling through the forum and saw a post that gave me an idea that I wanted to inquire about. I scored a 165 on the September LSAT and have a 3.93 LSAC GPA that'll likely go to ~3.96 after this semester of school is over in the beginning of December. I was thinking about applying to the bottom schools of the T14 (UC Berkley, Cornell, UT, UCLA, and Georgetown) with those numbers before the December LSAT (which I am registered for). I still have to get my LOR's from professors but I know who I'm going to ask already & my transcripts are in etc...

I'm hoping that those numbers will get me accepted to at least one of those schools and that I'll get the notifications earlier than if I used my December score. My main worry is the chance that I get outright rejected. If that happens before the December score comes out, would I be able to have my application considered again with a presumably higher LSAT score or would I end up being out of luck? What do you all think?

Thanks a ton everyone, you guys rock.

Is going to a t100 law school like Syracuse or Buffalo for example worth it? I've been told that if you don't kill the LSAT and get into a top ranked school, there's no point. I just keep getting so much mail from schools like Hofstra, etc, that I know are low-ranked schools... just don't know if I should even be considering them if my LSAT score isn't through the roof.

Love Tim Minchin's 9 Life Lessons video that is spreading thru-out social media. For those that have tunnel vision towards Dec test, hope this provides a moment of levity during your prep!

Wishing you all the best in the passionate pursuit of your short-term goals :)

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What are some questions that you find infuriating? I will occasionally come across an LR question during BR that's just straight up maddening. I've recently experienced this with question 56.3.21. It just pissed me off. What the hell, man! I realize this is due to confusion or an initial misreading of the stimulus. I find the more subtle LR questions the most anger-inducing. I will usually take that as an indication that I need a break. Anyway, don't hate what you don't understand. What about y'all? Which LSAT questions do you find the most frustrating?

Took GRE cold and score 164V/168Q. Have a below median LSAT for harvard.

Even tho each a few points below close to perfect scores in GRE sections, the percentiles are only 90-95% for these sections.

Is this 164V/168Q gre strengthens or weakens 170 LSAT score for harvard? Should one retake this GRE?

Hello all,

I just wanted to see how everyone ‘studies’ and see if I’m on the ‘right track’. I’m going through the CC for the first time. How do you approach the problem sets? The lessons? Explanations? For example, even though I know why a certain answer is right I watch JY’s explanation to see what I might have overlooked or didn’t think of.

So its me again...

I am really struggling with LR, especially necessary assumption questions and flaw questions even though in my head it feels like I completely understand flaw.

So I want to get a 163+. My BR has been at a 160 so I really just need to increase by 3 more.

The following are my BR scores for those who have missed my last post.

Should I just focus on perfecting LG and RC?

LR -7/-8

LG - 2/-3

RC -5/-6

I mean, I really should start focusing on timing now with only a month left..

I will write the February test if I don't score as high but some Canadian schools only look at the December test so I kind of have to do decent on this test.

Most schools take the highest right? And you can apply with an average December score with intent to take february and get a better one...? How do you let them know you anticipate another LSAT score coming in before them judging you on the one they have, if it's not sufficient to get in? I just want to make sure I go about it properly. Thanks!

I have a really bad habit of whispering the passages aloud to myself and talking to myself while I work through the problems :( Maybe I have ADD or something and saying things aloud helps me to focus, idk?? Obviously, I won't be able to do this on test day. Any advice from people who have the same problem and how to overcome this?

Hey everyone. So recently I have been thinking considering what it means to get really good at fundamentals and how you know when you have achieved exceptional fluency in fundamentals skills. I have always been the type of person to push ahead and not look back, but in the LSAT review is a hugely important factor. I came across a link that 7sager @LetsHigh5 made. It includes things like LR strategies by question type, RC strategies, LG and LR stimuli indicators and a ton of other incredibly useful things to memorize. I think that having these things memorized and understood will definitely give you a leg up on your fundamentals. All credit for making this should go to LetsHigh5. total boss move. This should be used an addition to CC review to beef up your fundamentals.

https://quizlet.com/LetsHigh5/folders/lsat-info-strategy-stack/sets

Instead of giving me the test center I requested for December, which is only 15 minutes away and which I requested well before the deadline, LSAC decided to give me a testing center that is an hour away - without traffic!

I emailed LSAC, but I've gotten no response. The test center change deadline is Tuesday... Am I just screwed or is there something I can do?

My school's online portal has an option to place a transcript order but I'm worried about whether I need to include the Transcript Request Form. The note below states that "e-transcripts sent to LSAC do not require special handling" so I'm assuming that I do not need to include the Transcript Request Form.

Has anyone gone through this before? I called my school's registrar office to confirm that they use one of LSAC's approved electronic transcript transfer sources but I would feel better if another student confirmed this for me.

"For transcript requests with special handling instructions or that require attachments (e.g., PharmCas, NSF, etc.), do not proceed with this request. Instead, use the paper Order Request Form to order a UCLA transcript and submit in person or by mail with your attachment. Note: e-Transcripts sent to AMCAS and LSAC do not require special handling."

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Hiya,

So initial diagnostic was about a 152, averaged around 155s and up on PTs. BR got me to around EDIT: 165s

I'm at 11h of the CC out of the 98h. My test is December. I cannot postpone as I have a waiver, whcih would mean I'd have to pay for this test, then the charge of rescheduling which I cannot financially do. What do you guys think I can reach with about 30h of weekly studying? (45h I could push it to as I understand virtually all of what he says at a 1.7x speed). Any other tips?

Hey all,

I was wondering what you all thought of this. My GPA and LSAT makes me competitive at a few schools - not a shoe-in but pretty dang competitive. Specifically, I'm thinking of sending a round of applications out to Georgetown and Cornell as soon as my letters of rec are completed (in 1 week). I'm really really confident in my letters and my personal statement. I'm slated to take the December exam to make me competitive for higher ranked schools, but I kinda wanna just submit some apps now so I can hear back from some places earlier than February.

Should I do it?

Currently I'm living abroad in Spain and studying for the LSAT... so given the time zones, I'm never able to watch live webinars.

I was wondering.... are any additional webinars going to be uploaded anytime soon under 'Resources'?