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I’m taking the test in December but I’m planning to re-take in February if I don’t achieve a high enough score. (I’m really close to my goal but not consistent enough that I feel confident I’ll achieve it in December.) I’m planning on applying for next fall. My question is, if I don’t score high enough in December will I be rejected from schools based on that score or will they wait for my February score? Alternatively, could I be jeopardizing my chances of being admitted based on my December score if schools see I’m registered for February so they don’t consider me until then and spaces get filled?

If anyone knows how this works I would be grateful! Thanks :)

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I took PT 82 last weekend and totally blew it. I choked on one whole LG section (in that it took forever) and then had less time to spend on the others (plus, I got several wrong on the one I choked on). I'd decided to do the RC that had the most questions first, since while I do reasonably well on RC, I always seem to have to rush through the last one because it often has a lot of questions. Well the RC with the most questions on this test was the judge one, and so that messed me up, too. I basically ran out of time to one whole RC section.

I was also trying a skipping strategy, but that just got blown out of the water.

I normally PT around 163-164 now, pretty consistently, but this one was a 158. My BR Scores have been going up and on the 163/164 PTs I usually BR around 169. BUT on this 158 test I BRd at 177!

I was pretty happy with that and part of me thinks maybe I just had a bad day and the BR is proof that my actual score would have been higher on another test.

So I don't know whether to be pleased overall about the BR, or down about the 158.

The only way to know for sure is to take another PT, but ugh. That drop and experience on PT 82 was bad. So now I"m freaking out that I could run into the same thing on the actual test day.

I'm sure I'm not the only one freaking out. I just needed to vent to people who will understand :/

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So as many of you know, I went hard leading up to the September test. I took basically every PT from 40-81 leading up to it. I scored lower than expected in September and have since re-evaluated my study habits. I am noticing though that I am remembering a lot of the questions, LG and passages on the test. For example, I went to take PT68 today, and the first RC passage I remembered the entire thing. I took the test 5 months ago, but still knew where to focus in order to get the answers right.

So any ideas on what to do in order to keep things fresh? Obviously I could take PT's in the 30's but for whatever reason I score significantly higher on early PT's than I do on later ones. I want something that might be a little more accurate to test day.

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Hey guys! If you're taking the LSAT and your account is inconveniently set to expire a few days before the test date, just email me (dillon@7sage.com) and I'll extend your account for free through the December test. (Make sure you include your 7Sage email!)

I can guarantee you that my inbox will fill up with these, so give me time to reply to them all. If your account expires by the time I get to your email, don't worry, I'll reactivate it for you. :)

For those of you who are expiring after, good luck on the LSAT! We here at 7Sage are rooting for you.

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Is there a way to restart the Analytics part for prep test 36 to enter my results? Someone it defaulted to saying it was completed and I never had a chance to input my answers. Now, I don't have the analysis on how I did? Any advice? Thanks!

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Hi, this is my first time starting a post here since I prefer to be a silent reader but I've been lost in decision for quite some time. I need help!

I took the LSAT this September after nearly a full year of part-time LSAT studying and got a score that was a bit below my average but within range - 164. I was hoping for a 167 but after getting my worst section, RC, as my experimental in the very first section of the test (it was my most feared scenario), I was slightly drained.

So, I ended up with LSAT score of 164 and GPA of 3.89.

I really want this studying to end but at the same time, I don't want to regret not having taken my chance to get a higher score. But I'm not completely sure I'll be able to score higher. I am registered for the December LSAT and some schools I've already applied to are aware of this. I'm really lost as to what I should do.

Should I retake in two weeks with the hope of hitting my actual average score or just focus on continuing with the applications? Honestly, I've lost my motivation for studying and haven't really been studying for the past few weeks. But do I even have a realistic chance of getting into t14 in the east coast?

Sorry for the ranting and I would really appreciate some advice! :blush:

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I was just wondering on average how long it is taking people to get through the core curriculum. I won't be applying to schools this year like I had planned, and wondered how many of you are able to stay on track... or have to keep editing the study schedule like I do! Thanks, Lindsey

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Hey everyone,

Short term lurker, first time poster.

I've been self studying for the December LSAT for around 4 months and have progressively worked my way through almost all of the available PTs.

At this point, I've written tests 1-71 and 74. 72 and 73 are being divided up to serve as experimental sections for the remainder of my PTs before the 2nd.

Starting in the 40s, my PTs have consistently ranged between 173-177, with the majority falling in the 174-176 range. A typical distribution would be -3 combined on LR, -0 to -2 on games and -2 on RC.

Unfortunately my last few PTs have taken a bit of a nosedive, with a 171 on PT 71 (-2LR/-5LG/-6RC) and a 168 on PT 74 (-3LR/-3LG/-8RC). The two scores have been my lowest two PTs in ~2 months. I suspect that the combination of stress and fatigue is creeping in. I haven't been sleeping much over the last week, as I'm consistently dreaming about LGs that I've fabricated, but can't solve. It doesn't seem like my mind has been considerate enough to also create a corresponding answer to the questions, so I'm stuck in CBT limbo on an imaginary sequencing or grouping game at 3 AM.

My LR scores have stayed relatively consistent, but my RC scores have taken a major drop on my last two PTs. I've also struggled to complete game sections within 35, whereas in past I was consistently finishing them in 32-33 minutes. The RC sections in the 70s "feel" tougher to me, but I'm also making mistakes that wouldn't have happened previously IMHO.

Long story short, I'd appreciate everyones insight on what I should make of the last couple of PTs. I feel that burnout is contributing, but the major drop is RC was a shock that corresponds with when many people claim that RC sections became tougher.

Thanks for your help.

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I am wanting some advice from some fellow test takers.

I began studying for the test in July. On my diagnostic I scored a 158. I am shooting for around 170. I have done the CC, and i am foolproofing logic games. I have taken 2 PTs this weekend. I scored a 163 and a 161. Last weekend I took a PT and scored 167.

I usually do pretty well in RC. My weak areas are definitely LR and the games. I missed around 6 or 7 in each section on the last test.

Do you guys think my goals are unrealistic considering the test is less than 2 weeks away?

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Any thoughts on labelling question stems first and writing it literally next to it eg., principle, weaken etc then reading the stimulus on relevant LR/RC or just a waste of time? THANKS!

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So I have been struggling with hitting my desired score under timed conditions but I finally did it today. I've adjusted my study schedule and allowed myself time to actually live and i think that has really made a difference. I'm a rather social person, so being consumed with studying for this test was really stressing me out. Hopefully this persists into test day. Good luck everyone!

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Something I've noticed about my PTs: I perform better when I'm feeling better. Not like.... physically (although that helps) but mentally. I mean when I wake up and put my contacts in, get dressed, and brush my teeth just to sit in my room to take a PT. Hell, even putting on shoes helps.

We talk a lot about mindset in these forums, but other things contribute to mindset besides meditation and repetition. Not only does waking up and "getting ready" help your outlook, it gets you prepped for test day. If you only ever take PTs in boxers, you're not replicating test day conditions!

This is all to say, keep in mind other things that might give you a little confidence boost. Two weeks out (exactly)--we can do this!

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Hi all,

Hope everyone is doing well :3

I seem to have developed this habit while I was in university where I don't really 'take in' what I read on the first try, and usually have to read something 3 or 4 times before attributing meaning to a sentence.

This method clearly isn't flying during timed questions lol. I end up spending more time reading the stimulus than the ACs. I'm stuck in the habit of reading two or three full sentences, going "wait, what did I just read?" and then re-reading it again and again. I want to be able to just read a sentence from a stimulus and immediately compartmentalize it somewhere in my brain so that I know it's there & I don't have to go back and re-read it.

Has anyone experienced this? Is it just mental burnout or is this something that you conquer with time? How do you mentally prepare yourself to take in words on the first try?

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Course progresses as Logical Reasoning --> Logic Games --> Reading Comp.

Thinking of doing Logic Games --> Reading Comp --> Logical Reasoning.

Biggest reason: Taking the December 2017 LSAT, and want to achieve as best gains as possible. Think that I could make the most gains with Logic Games over these two weeks.

Disclaimer: This is but my first take, with the "real" takes (as in...I aim to be done with the materials by then) being June & September (if need be).

Would I be damaging myself by doing this? The gist I get is that the progression is intentional - Logical Reasoning introduces understanding of particular things that are then "built upon" in Logic Games and Reading Comprehension.

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Hey all,

Recently saw a post in the forum about how to make sure you absorb the information from each question. Although that was more along the lines of doing so while studying, I'm wondering what everyone uses as a technique to do so on test day?

December will be my third and final write. Now that I'm used to what to expect on test day, I'm well aware of the anxiety that it brings for me (and I would assume, many other people). This usually translates into having trouble fully absorbing info for the first few questions. Once I'm a few questions in, I'm usually ok.

I personally will be warming up before the real test to make sure my brain is warmed up. That seems to help.

Was wondering if anyone had any other helpful tips?

Thanks for sharing! :)

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I know that some sections of the same type are tougher than others.

Does 7Sage or anyone else publish data about the relative difficulty of different sections?

Trying to figure out if my relative difficulty with a given LR section was due to lots of questions of a question type that Im weaker in or if the overall section was more difficult.

Im sure 7sage has the capability to calculate this, but wasn't sure if they'd made it public.

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On my lsat ticket I have a photo where I don’t have a beard. I have a beard now. Should I shave? (I think I should) Do you think I’m gonna have problems being let in the testing room? I’ve been studying like crazy so I would be traumatized if my beard got in the way (it’s not even that long!) (this post was comic relief. Kind of but not really) Happy Studying!

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I am not really trying to start much of a discussion here. But, I have a general thought I wanted to share. Words have power. If you say something enough, you end up believing it. If you continue to say you’re stuck, you eventually really do become stuck. I’ve noticed a lot of people use the word “grinding”, which I know a lot of us are essentially doing. I want to bring up the potential that words such as “grinding” could be negatively affecting our mindset. Grinding is something that is tedious and seemingly without end. Is this truly the mindset in which we want to approach the LSAT?

I think the LSAT is a fantastic opportunity for me to prepare myself to think like a future lawyer. I am a musician, and I see many parallels. Practicing etudes, although boring at times, helps my techniques, which ultimately helps me perform my concertos much better. I think the LSAT is a very fair test, and I believe this test will help develop some of the logical thinking skills I will need as a lawyer.

~ just a friendly thought. Study on!

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