How do you pre-phrase correctly? I notice that when I get an answer wrong and I look at someone else pre-phrase that they was right on. I tried the pre-phrasing but mines are nothing close to what JY or others are coming up with. I can spot the conclusion and premise and I try mixing them together and still ending up missing the point with the pre-phrase

How is understanding the logic behind why answer choices are right or wrong regarding a specific LR question going to help me on the next test? I'm not criticizing the process, I'm just trying to find out how to minimize mistakes for future exams, hence get better. Is this process subconsciously training my mind to think about these questions, and thereby developing my LSAT skills, or am I supposed to be picking up conscious strategies for future questions? For those of you who employed the BR process to a solid score, did you just passively begin to get better the more and more you blind reviewed your tests over time, or did you consciously cultivate specific strategies for particular types of problems?

Hello everyone! I was wondering if anyone can guide me to a proper game plan working toward the September test.

A little back story...

I took a summer class with Blueprint two years ago hoping to take the September 2016 test. However, it ended up not being feasible with all that I was involved with at school so I decided to push it off a year and focused on keeping my GPA up (graduated 3.74).

Despite EVERYONE advising not to take the LSAT unless I'm 100% ready, I took the September 2017 test while I was in Korea dealing with a family situation (too long to desc on here). With about 1.5 months of studying, I ended up with a 160 after a week or two of PTing around 165-168.

Fast forward to this year, I've come back from a year in Korea dealing with the family stuff... pretty ready to tackle the LSAT for September. I took a new diagnostic with June 2007 since I've not touched anything LSAT related after that test and what do you know, a 160 (LR:-12, RC:-8, LG:-3).

So now I'm kind of confused as to where to go from here. I’m planning on studying full time btw. I clearly struggle with RC, and miss many of the difficult questions in LR, but I feel it might be too time consuming to go through the fundamentals again? Would you recommend that I jump into drilling the harder questions or is that essentially a fundamentals issue and I definitely should go through the CC?

My top choice is Columbia, but I'm not even certain it's possible by September. I was just hoping to maximize my chances by applying early but am considering pushing back if I see potential.

Sorry for the super long post, but as you can tell, I'm a little eager to end this LSAT journey and get to law school. If you have ANY advice for someone like me, I'd really appreciate it and it'll really help my anxiety. Thank you for reading this far!

I was thinking about taking the GRE. Not for law school but for potential joint degree programs. Is anyone else here studying for the GRE? If so, can you recommend any prep courses? Thanks!

Hi guys,

I'm a new 7Sager and this is my first post! I am tentatively aiming to take the November 2018 or January 2019 test, with an end goal of entering law school in fall of 2020 (I am a junior in college).

I just took my timed diagnostic LSAT last week (the June 2007 one) and scored a 162 (-3 LG, -4.5 LR, -7 RC). I was pretty happy with this score, apart from RC (I actually expected it to be my best section). My dream is to get to 175+ (ideally 180 but I know that's nearly impossible). I am wondering how people who have achieved this went about it- what was your diagnostic score and how long did you study for? With a 162 diagnostic do I have a shot at getting there?

I have not purchased a 7Sage course yet but am planning on it soon. I have already bought the LSAT Trainer book but haven't looked at it yet. Considering this, which course do people recommend I purchase? I am leaning towards Ultimate+ but money is tight.

Looking forward to getting to know you all, this community seems fantastic :)

Should you aim to do every single PT in the past 10 years? (From PT's 50-80?)

How do you know when you're ready to take this test?

Or another question, how do you know when you're ready to REGISTER to take this test?

I really want to register for like the September test date, but I just don't know if I'll ACTUALLY be ready by then.

Currently BR score is in mid 170s, timed scores 160s fluctuating a lot. I've drilled all PT's from 19-40 and have completed PT's 40-50.

I am hoping to try to do all PT's from 50-80 these next few weeks, but it's a lot of material and I don't know if I can cover all of it.

Any advice, suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks!

Hi 7sagers,

So I just had a pretty disappointing performance on LG and I am starting to get worried about my ability to improve my score by September. I spent the last month or so fool-proofing LG and I just took PT 32 timed and scored a -8 in LG. To put that in perspective, I scored a -8 on LG 1 month ago (before i started really fool-proofing). This means that across 25ish PT's worth of games I found no (consistent) improvement. Across the first 30 PT's my best score for a section was -2, but that's very rare for me. On average I'd guess that my LG score is something like -5 for a section. I'm starting to think that I need to start fool-proofing over from the beginning again.

Additionally, despite the fact that I have completed the CC, my LR scores are around -6/-7 per section and my RC is at -10. This puts my PT average, accounting for variance, somewhere between 158 and 161 with a BR score of 172-174. If I want to improve to a 170 by September, what do I need to do to have the best shot? Is a 9-12 point improvement in this situation unrealistic for two months? Should I restart fool-proofing until i'm consistently -3 or better? Should I start working more on RC since i'm losing about 10 points per section in this area? Should I still be taking a PT every Saturday?

I would really appreciate any feedback about similar situations or any advice that you all can give me. I don't expect anyone to answer all of these questions but I'd like to put it out there as this is a pretty big personal let-down.

Thanks

I took the past Dec and Feb test to squeeze into this past cycle. Did ok but knew I left so many points and law schools on the table.

I decided to retake the LSAT in July. I feel waaaay more prepared this time. However, because full refunds are offered to July takers who keep their scores, I decided to sign up for the Sept LSAT as insurance. It was only intended as insurance for if something weird happened on my July LSAT day, I'd have another option to take it and still apply early. If July went well, then I'd just cancel Sept and get a full refund (not just the $50).

But knowing even a difference of 2 extra points could have a huge impact of schools and financial aid, I'm now just thinking of taking it in regardless of what happens in July (although a 172 or higher I would cancel). This would mean taking it a 4th time vs. a 3rd time. However, at this point I don't think there is a real difference, especially if I could do better. Am I wrong to think this? Thanks.

Hi all, just feeling a little frustrated today. I'm taking the July LSAT, and today's PT came out 3 points lower than my last one. I also haven't been doing as hot on some other sections in the past few days.

Part of me knows that it's just an off day, and these things fluctuate, and it's about the overall picture, not the individual data points. But at the same time, I'm feeling really annoyed and frustrated. How do you all get back from off days like that? Or, alternatively, should I actually be concerned?

Hey guys!

So I'm worried that I may have not done well on the June 2018 lsat, but I didn't cancel. I really do want to see how I did. If I study and significantly improve on the November 2018 LSAT, does anyone know of a really bad past test score negatively affecting admission into a tier 2 law school like St Johns or Brooklyn? I know a lot of people are saying that I should have canceled, but wouldn't the law schools like to see a significant improvement to showcase your willingness to work harder and not give up?

I just finished the last RC lesson and it just hit me that it's time to kick start PTing, drilling, BRing intensely, and FPing. Idk why but I have such a strange feeling I can't explain?? I've really centered my entire life around this test where on my days off I feel guilty and even in moments where I'm relaxing I feel terrible! Just wondering how you guys cope with all these feelings of excitement, anxiety, and moments of disappointment during the process? Side note, I'm on vacation visiting an uncle in NY and he called me a weirdo for skipping a day of exploring to study for the LSAT. No joke.

This is my first post on this forum, so hello everyone!

I've been studying for a while now and as I was drilling LG today I couldn't help but wonder:

Are the pages on the actual LSAT double sided for the LG section?

I'm asking because I often find that I have to re-copy my master diagram if the pages are double sided, since going back and forth between pages to look at my diagram is highly inefficient.

On the other hand, if the section is single sided, there would be no need to re-copy the original diagram.

It's a minor concern, but I'm wondering because it could potentially save 30 seconds per game. I also want to be able to practice as effectively as possible.

Thanks!

For anyone who has taken a video of themselves doing a time LSAT, how do you transfer such a large file from your phone to your computer so that you can view the footage in detail? I tried uploading to YouTube but it's forcing it to be 240p since it's such a large file.

Anyone have a better method for iPhone?

I really want to start this year so I emailed the school of choice (buffalo) to see if they’d take my july exam. It’s my first score. Here’s what they said: just didn’t know if you guys had any thoughts if I’d have a shot or not. Like if spots are filled etc. I have a meeting Monday. Thanks!

Thank you for your email. July LSAT scores are expected to be released on or around August 10, which is just 10 (or so) days before mandatory orientation and just 11 days before 1L classes begin (LAWR). While it's technically possible for us to accept the July LSAT, you would need to be prepared, if admitted, to begin law school in about a week's time. If you are interested in applying with the July LSAT, I encourage you to schedule a short phone call with Dean Lindsay Gladney to discuss in greater detail.

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Hi All,

When you take your practice tests do you use the distractions on the proctor tool? I began using it this practice test on a level 3 volume, and it sounded like the person next to me was tearing up their test page by page! I know some people have had bad experiences when taking the test as far as distractions, but is it generally as bad as the distraction tool on the app? My testing environment before was subject to occasional interruptions from outside my apartment or my dog, but after I began using the app's distractions, my score tanked 5 points.

I suppose prepare for the worst hope for the best?

What would you do?

Hello,

I've been working on applications and was wondering if anyone could give me some pointers to improve my resume for application purposes. I have my work resume but for Law Schools what should I emphasize or in what ways should it differ from my work one. Thanks in advance!

Hey everyone- with the ultimate I have up to pt 72 for the explanations. I also want access to the more recent pts. Should I purchase a few individually ? Upgrade my package ? I also need to renew my account as well.

Hey everyone for rc did you use older passages for drilling ? (Under pt 50 ). I’ve seen discussions saying they are too different to be useable . Thanks

Hello friends,

I was planning to take the LSATs in September/November but as it seems, plans have changed.

I received an amazing job opportunity that I cannot pass up, however I don’t want to give up on the law school dream. I had been studying diligently for 6 months and would like to keep going if possible. The difference is, the pressure and intensity is no longer there. I’m not really sure if this is good or bad yet..

Anyway, I’m reaching out for advice regarding what a long-term study plan with no foreseeable test date in mind look like?

I suspect many of us were in the opposite scenario where we planned to take a test by a certain date but found that we needed more time to study. I now find myself in a situation where I have no end date in mind and have limited time per day to study over an undetermined period.

I might take the LSATs in a year, 2 years, no idea. Or of course some of you might just suggest I keep going now and take the test in November or March anyway.

How do I stay sharp when my study schedule is now so spread out over time? How do you stay motivated with no clear objective test date? What would you recommend for someone worried about spreading out the study process so that by the time I learn X, I would have forgotten about Y because it was months ago? Sometimes, it seems like the LSAT prep prices requires an all out effort or I shouldn’t waste my time.

I’m hoping that those of you who studied for over 1-2 years can share some advice about what worked well and not so well. Thoughts on a study schedule, etc

Any feedback would be appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

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Hey 7sagers hope everyone is well , the lsat seems to trigger a lot students , myself included . I know jy says in the cc to get in the habit of meditating . The calm app is a great free resource that you can get from the App Store. It has guided meditations/ nature music / masterclasses / sleep function . Try to get into the routine of daily meditations if that works for you (it has helped me tremendously) Hope this helps !! Feel free to add suggestions on staying calm and collected while prepping and during the lsat

I've been struggling to find ways to work on questions before watching the CC videos,

and just realized I can print out all the prep tests... all the hours I spent on screenshots...

Hey gang,

I'm on the verge of taking my timed PTs. I figure I will take my first PT, see my weakness, drill with the question bank, and then resume PTs (if anyone else has any suggestions on how to do this, please feel free). My main question is this: How often should I take PTs? I have a full time job and little one so I don't exactly have the ability to PT between the hours of 9-4. Should I just PT on the weekend? Or should I aim to take a PT after dinner some nights in addition to the weekend? If the idea is to take the PTs with consistency and do it in the morning, I will only have openings on Saturday and Sunday mornings. Is this sufficient or should I try and get some PTs in before I go to work? I work from home so it's not that unrealistic to do, but this would mean me taking PTs starting at like 5 in the morning.

Thanks in advance!

Hello, I previously bought the LSAT starter course in the UK and it worked fine, I'm trying to buy the advanced course now and suddenly it says 7sage is not available in the UK. Is this a glitch or has it suddenly been region locked for some reason? please help! I love 7sage!