Hi guys,

I received a167 on the September LSAT and I have 3.84 GPA from top 30 UG. I am also working as a CPA at a big 4 if this matters at all.

My PT average was around170 - ranging from 163(outlier) to 176. I was somewhat disappointed to see I scored 167, so I am retaking in December. My goal is to bring my score up to low-mid 170s.

So far, I have used PS LR Bible, Manhattan LR and RC, and 7sage videos for LG. I ran out of fresh PTs and I have to confess I did not properly blind review the PTs I have taken, which kind of explains -9 in LR.

My plan for December test is to read LSAT trainer, which I purchased literally 5 seconds after I found my score out, for LR and RC to improve my weak areas and also to thoroughly blind review every PT I retake from now on.

Just want to hear you guys’ opinions if I should add anything to my plan..or I guess if anyone wants to share your story going from 165-169 ranges to 170-175, I’d really appreciate.

Thanks, guys.

Feel gutted by the test. It was such a weird mix.

I went perfect on LG -0

I did horrible on LR -8/-5

I did horrible on RC -7

My lowest PT in the 3 months prior to the Sept test was a 163. My highest was a 174.

So here I am. 163 and feeling pretty beat down. Since I'm a splitter obviously I'm not getting into the schools I had hoped for. (2.7 GPA)

I also have a ton of pressure on me so I have to apply this cycle, just not many ways around it...so idk what to do...retake in December and pray? Apply with this score now and pray? Lower my standards considerably?

This test sucks some times

Hi there. I received my Sept LSAT score (167) last night and scored substantially lower than my prep-tests (avg173). I knew walking out of the test that my score would be lower as I screwed up the timing on my RC section pretty substantially and ended up rushing through the last passage, barely reading and answering the questions. My top school is NYU -- I was planning on applying ED and for the RTK scholarship. I am going to retake in December, but this eliminates the opportunity to apply ED and for the RTK scholarship ( I think?).

I guess I'm wondering if there are any other options-- is there any point in applying ED with my Sept. LSAT score and allowing my December score to come in later? Or is it possible to apply to the RTK scholarship with a Dec LSAT score (the application is technically due Jan 1st. but Dec. LSAT score release date is Jan 4th).

Applying as early as possible is something that has been emphasized so much by advisors that I guess I'm feeling apprehensive about a December retake, but I am confident that I can raise my score by at least 3 pts.

Any Advice would be much appreciated.

First things first....Hello. I've had this account for some while now, and upon the great debacle that took place during my first go around back in September I decided to see if there's anybody out there that can point me in the direction of sanity.

Leading up to the September Lsat, I self studied for four months, five days a week, at about 6 hours per day. Not really having any concrete approach to go off of I figured that this would be the proper approach. Using the powerscore literature and just about every prep-test, I had averaged in the lower 160s and had convinced myself that the method of studying I chose was producing the wanted outcome.

I scored 142, in September.

While I can't completely explain what happened, I do believe that time management could be part of the issue for me.....outside of that I'm not too sure where to go from here, and I'm looking for some guidance. I can't really afford the effective courses, and what I can afford may not be enough....with that being said my GoFundMe is...kidding.

Somebody help me push the restart button before December gets here.

Thanks

I just got my score back and its not pretty. I am aiming to take June 2018, since I need like 20 points improvement to have a shot at any Top law schools. I used a bunch of top company materials like (Testmasters, Powerscore, etc) but I don't think they have worked for me/I work at a huge law firm so it was a struggle to be able to leave work on time to study. : ( I am wondering if I should start studying all over with 7Sage or go back over the old books and materials? I don't want to waste time/money again on huge prep courses. I also need someone there to possibly ask questions which I didn't really have before, so is there like an office hours? or online skype tutor? Sorry for the long post.

I just want to say "thank you" and give well wishes to everyone involved in this site and community for providing a sense of direction, instruction, and motivation in this long arduous journey of LSAT study. I won't go into my own difficult journey and relationship to the test now, since it would distract from how grateful I am. Going into this cycle, I set what I thought was a reasonable goal of not getting less than a 167 and everything else was a "cherry on top." I never dreamed that there would be very many cherries on top, but none of this would have been possible without the videos, study groups, or the very many comments and helpful discussions that I had throughout the process. This is not hyperbole: writing my PhD thesis, teaching a course, and trying to handle the obligations of life would not have allowed me--who has a track record of being very (very, very, very) terrible at "tasking", let alone multitasking (hats off to the parents out there)--to progress at faster than a snail's pace on my competence and confidence with the test.--That is, not without 7sage and you all. I'm so glad to have had your help and guidence; I really appreciate it.

Moving forward, I plan on continuing my involvement in this community--especially, as I haven't even begun to really work on applications--and am more than happy to assist others in any way I can. All anyone has to do is reach out; I'll also be patrolling the boards to offer my two cents (where I think it might be worth 2 cents). But a thousand thanks to all of you; 7sage and the 7sage community has already been well worth it.--A.c.S

If so, I was wondering is someone could break down one of the LR questions for me?

Hi, everyone. I'd like to start by saying I just now encountered 7Sage for the first time and quickly decided to get an account. I've spent some time today reading through the discussions and it has already been helpful. Though it has calmed some of my anxieties, I feel I have created a new one. There are many discussions in which I have read people commenting they study 8 hours a day, and it honestly had me panic a bit. I work full- time and do not have the time to be studying 8 hours a day without a burnout. Considering my September LSAT score (first LSAT I have taken), I feel like I SHOULD be studying for that long. How can this be, though? How is it possible to study for so long while maintaining a full time job? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Hi! Before everyone tells me to retake.... I am :) I received my LSAT score last night and I got a 149. While this was a 10 point increase from my diagnostic and I should be excited about that, we all know that this isn't going to get me into a T2 or T1 school. While a T1 school would be AMAZING, I am totally okay with going to a T2 school especially the ones in my region. That being said a score in the high 150's - low 160's would be ideal. When I was PTing, I was in this range which is why my score is sort of a surprise. Funny enough, I am not depressed nor have I even cried because I KNEW that damn 1st LR really fucked my day up. I increased dramatically on timing but I think now my issue is accuracy (where before it was the opposite).

Anyways, I need help trying to put together a study schedule, who to ask to help tutor me ( & do you accept credit cards @"Cant Get Right" ), if I should totally scratch 7sage and do an in-class program? I have a 3.65 GPA, a URM, extensive work experience, and hopefully a good personal statement (if anyone wants to read it). I have signed up for December so let's get to it!

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Congratulations! You have completed and survived a fully time and administered LSAT. Regardless of score this is a huge feat!

For those that achieved their goal score or better, an extra congrats to you! Your hard work and dedication payed off! You earned your score be proud!

For the rest of us, well don't let it get you down. We have to get back up and start working hard again. Our goals are attainable, we just need to keep on working to get there. Let those who succeed motivate you to keep working toward success! We need to trust in the method and really put our all into the test.

Do not beat yourself up, or let it define you. Just because you failed once doesn't mean you will have the same outcome again. Get back up and keep on running!

Hi everyone!! I wrote my Sept 2017 LSAT a month ago and before that I was scoring consistently in the high 160's to the early 170's on all my prep tests. I got my LSAT score today and scored a 158. I am genuinely confused and I don't know what went wrong. I get bad test day anxiety and I have never even scored lower than 163 even when I had just started pt-ing.

I wrote the June 2017 LSAT as well and had really bad anxiety and got 160.

I don't know what I can do for December. My fundamentals are pretty solid considering I was hitting 170's even on very recent prep tests.

I am concerned as well that I did worse on the second time round and what law schools will think when they see that. Any advice on that?

I know that I can do well on the LSAT but I don't know what happens on test date and how to overcome that anxiety that gets me a score that is not representative of my abilities. Do I have enough time to make enough of a difference before December?

It seems that after each LSAT exam, companies like Powerscore and others recap the exam, and discuss the amount and difficulty of questions. Is this helpful to us? IE, does the degree of difficulty of one exam predict the degree of difficulty of the following exam?

Hi there! So I just took the September test and received my score which ended up being even lower than all my PTs. I self-studied with the powerscore books and took dozens of PTs, felt pretty prepared. I also studied with 7sage's free video explanations which helped A LOT! I'm thinking I just need to dig a little deeper. Looking to up my score 6-8 points. I'm looking towards the starter because it's cheaper and I can actually afford that, unlike the others. Would I be fine doing the Starter or should I just look somewhere else at another course?

So I got my score, and although I'm not sad about it, I'm not jumping for joy. My dream school is Northwestern, and my score is one point below the median. I know this doesn't put me in a great place (GPA is 3.6). I also know that it looks like I'm the perfect example of someone who should retake.

However, I put my heart and soul into this last exam. I was PTing in the 170s (took a proctored June 2017 LSAT as a PT and got a 170). I feel like I would be taking the December test for a chance I get lucky because I don't think I can improve my LSAT capabilities. Also, work will really be ramping up for me in the next couple weeks.

Any advice? My main concern is that I know the earlier you apply, the better your chances, but how much should that factor into your decision?

I got a 167 on the september test, and I am happy with it but i was hoping for a 170+

Cornell is my dream school, so i was hoping to get peoples' opinions here and see if i should take one more shot at the test?

hope everyone who took the test performed as they wished!!

I took my first LSAT this September and just got my score back. I now have to study for the December one but I'm lost in where to start. I took almost all of the PTs from 36-80 but haven't finished the Core Curriculum. So I plan on finishing the CC but I'm not sure if I should be taking a PT every week from now on (but I took most of the PTs so I feel like my score will severely inflated) or...

I would sincerely appreciate your advice on how you all studied or plan to study for your second time around!

Hey guys so like many of you guys I'm not so happy about my test score (just when I thought reading comp and I were getting along). It was my first time writing the test and the experience was great because it really isn't as monstrous of a day as we make it out to be. However - I did score way below my avg test score. I was studying using PowerScore material, I had taken the course in the summer of 2015 - although I did look or practice the material until this summer when I started studying.

I have not purchased anything from 7Sage. I used my PS course books and homework sections, following a course schedule. It was fairly expensive to take the course and I'm not a big fan of throwing money at the LSAT regime. But - I am not impressed with my score at all, so I'm wondering whether you guys think it might be worth it to get some 7Sage stuff or whether I should hit the PS books again - I'll begin studying tomorrow till Dec 2 on for retest. Would really appreciate some wholesome advice.

Hey everyone,

Hope Grey day went well for you all. I got a 165 which I am a bit disappointed in seeing as though my average is right around a 170 with ~11 PT's taken. I went -9 LR, -1 LG, and -8 RC. I have a 3.95 GPA but I'm pretty sure I'm going to need a better LSAT score to get into a T-14 school (tell me if I'm wrong there).

My plan is to take a PT every week and switch to every other week if it gets to be too much. I'm planning on continuing my fool proofing of each game for each PT that I take. This, combined with in depth BR for the LR and RC sections will hopefully be enough for me to crack into the 170's come December.

Let me know what you think of my situation and of my plan for the upcoming months. Any suggestions are really appreciated!

Hi there! My GPA is 3.58 and my Sept. 2017 score is 167. I wanted to submit my application earlier than December, but it seems that my chances for UCLA and USC are below 50% with these numbers (and probably $0 scholarship if I did get in). I have 8 years of work experience in the legal field. Should I start studying again? Thanks!!

I've been studying off and on for a month and am on the fence about sitting for December. I took my first test prep a couple weeks ago and scored a 156. I'll have the Ultimate Package kick in for 15 months soon and could really see it being beneficial to hone in on some of the drills that were previously locked. I also purchased the LSAT Trainer and have yet to go through that.

But I'm also not currently working until the December test date, so I don't know if it's worth giving it a shot in this concentrated amount of time and if it'd be possible to improve 5-9 points within 6ish weeks with no other responsibilities. I'm teaching English abroad under a Fulbright for ten months starting in January, and my host country doesn't offer the February date. I was also an accounting major and am done with 1/4 cpa exams with a retake coming up on the 20th. So I've been torn about whether to go all in on the LSAT or to look to take a 3rd section test before I leave. Any advice/guidance from my fellow 7Sagers would be greatly appreciated.

My target schools would be USC, UCLA, Arizona State, or Northwestern if I could possibly possibly bump my scores up. I had a 3.98 GPA and some solid EC's, but I haven't been in test-taking mode in quite some time. So not sure what I should realistically set my target scores for.

Just got my scores and I was looking on the LSAC website regarding each schools 25-75% and was curious as to what a splitter is? lets say your LSAT is in the 25% but your GPA is in the 75% does that make you a splitter ?

Hey guys,

So I wanted some feedback on my study plan leading up to the December test. I have finished the CC and am working to fool proof the LG games in the CC. I have also started drilling down different question types. My strongest section is between LR and LG, while my worst section is RC.

I plan on studying for 30-40 hours a week, hence this is what I aim to do (keeping in mind that I am currently not working or going to school, however I do volunteer 15-20 hours a week):

For the month of October:

Daily: 4 LG games using fool proof method

Drill 2 different question types of LR

2 RC Passages? (not sure how to tackle this section, worst section by far, HELP!)

I plan to really focus on getting the strategy down for each section and most importantly getting questions CORRECT in October.

Weekly:

1 PT every weekend.

For the month of November:

Daily: Timed LR Section, Timed LG Section, Timed LR Section

2(min)-3(max) PTs a week while also doing timed sections in between with BR.

I plan to really focus on timing and stamina for the month of November.

What do you guys think?

Is this study plan reasonable? My target score is 165+, currently scoring 157. Any suggestions are welcome!

Thank you in advance!

I just got my score and I decided to take the December test. I started off last year with a Cold diagnostic of 128 and now I ended up 6 points below the median for the law school I want to go to (152). Right now I feel discouraged, and talking to other people like friends and family isn’t helping since they don’t know the struggle of this test and how to relate. So now I'm signing up for December and I need advice on how to approach this test with a smart study plan. I still have to finish the CC with reading comp, but other than that any advice or general or specific would be greatly appreciated.

I was panicking the whole day waiting for my score only to find out that my score release is on hold bc of a fee waiver I applied for law school apps. I’m so frustrated...has anyone else experienced this?

I just wanted my score and move on with life.