Ciao fellow 7Sagers!

I just started studying for the 4 weeks ago and I haven't made much progress. Specifically: I just began the Most Strongly Supported Lesson. I've given myself a year to study for it since I plan on taking a gap year after I graduate so I'm not presently pressed for time, but I don't want to take anything for granted. However, I am not even able to stick with the assigned study schedule. It seems like an overwhelming amount to get through in a day. I am wondering how one is supposed to make it through the Core Curriculum so fast. How do you study? Here is how I study:

For Lessons:

For Practice Problems

If wrong: I think why it was wrong and try to cement that reasoning in my mind. Then I write out the explanation as to why that answer choice was right ans why my answer choice was wrong.

With this method, I've been studying about 4 hours every day and covering 1 lesson in 3-4 days. Should I be studying like this? This is how I usually study in college so I just applied it here. But I've been reading on the forum and a lot of people are really making some significant progress with the core curriculum. Would you mind sharing how you study on a daily basis? Like do you take notes, do you just watch the video, read the notes and move on? How do you ensure you are understanding and retaining what you are learning? What do you do? Any advice/suggestions will be helpful!

Thanks much :)

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7Sagers,

I have an op-ed in the New York Times about Harry Potter today! Notice the call-out of an assumption in an argument I'm trying to take down. Everything you're learning for the test applies in the real world too!

Just for fun, I'll share a few paragraphs which they cut, and which rely on the idea of necessary conditions:

Opponents of YA-reading adults aren’t Puritans; they don’t believe that literature ought to instruct and improve us. On the contrary, Beha and Graham rely on the concept of pleasure. The core sentiment is approximately this: “It’s weird that adults find YA so enjoyable. Those books are so basic.” In Graham’s words,

These books consistently indulge in the kind of endings that teenagers want to see, but which adult readers ought to reject as far too simple…These endings are emblematic of the fact that the emotional and moral ambiguity of adult fiction—of the real world—is nowhere in evidence in YA fiction. These endings are for readers who prefer things to be wrapped up neatly, our heroes married or dead or happily grasping hands, looking to the future.

Never mind that Shakespeare and Dickens and the Brontë sisters, all of whom get name-checked in Graham’s piece, wrap up many of their works with perfect bows. I just don’t believe that ambiguity or complexity are necessary conditions of pleasure. Books can be good in many different ways. Are the Harry Potter books morally simplistic? Sure, but it doesn’t matter. Rowling mastered the ancient magic of storytelling, which is why Harry is the boy who lived, and still lives, in our collective imagination.

Here's the article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/26/opinion/harry-potter-20th-anniversary.html?ref=opinion

So the app I use to track my workouts lets you pre-download the videos explaining the proper form of the various exercises they assign within the application itself. This way you don't have to rely on good reception in the gym or if you don't have unlimited data you can download the videos on Wi-Fi. As someone who loves to study on public transit or wherever I happen to be, a feature that allowed one to pre-download a number of 7Sage lessons while at home on their wifi network so they could later watch them on their iPad or iPhone would be great.

How do you usually find the numerical distribution? I tend to write down all possibilities, which takes a lot of time! Any better way to find it quickly?

Thank you in advance!

So i went throught the CC and i lost my notes. Could anyone lmk what are the main concepts that JY recommends memorizing. Im making flash cards and it wouod be a huge help.

I am nearing the end of my core curriculum, what's the next step?

should I be fool proofing logic games from pt 1-35? or diving into the pts? or something else perhaps?

thanks

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Hi Everyone,

Please don't tell me I am the only person on edge this week waiting for scores to be released?!

~M

Admin edit: Don't yell, I'm sensitive! :( (Caps and excessive exclamation marks removed from title)

I just want to make sure I'm doing blind review correctly. Essentially, I should be going through the questions three times, yes? First under timed conditions. Second, going through the circled questions under untimed conditions. Finally a third time going through the questions to solidify my reasoning for the questions I either missed or stayed the same during blind review.

Good morning 7Sage community! I originally planned to take the September 16 test this year, but after careful consideration, I have decided to push it back to the December 2 test. That being said, where I am currently at in my studies is that I have finished the CC, fool-proofed LG 1-35, and am currently on the PT phase.

My reasoning for pushing back the exam is due to a few reasons: 1) I was out of the country for two weeks at the beginning of June where I did not look at any LSAT material and will be out of the country again in early August for about a week and I don't anticipate myself looking at LSAT stuff, 2) as of writing this post, the September test is a little under 12 weeks away which I don't believe is enough time to get myself in the score range I want, and 3) I started a new job (as a legal assistant!!) which is exceptionally demanding often making me work overtime making doing full PTs after work not really possible.

The December test is a little under 23 weeks away which I believe is ample time to PT and BR enough to where I feel comfortable and confident sitting for for the test. I have already taken PT 36, BR it, and reviewed weak spots. My question is what would you all recommend for a PT schedule. Realistically, I plan on doing one PT a week to start and seeing if I will have time to add a second as long as I can properly BR it. I've seen on another post that doing every other PT or so is a good idea so I don't burn through them all in case of a retake. I'd love to hear your guys thoughts on this so any advice would be much appreciated!

Hey everyone,

Hope everyone is coping while you wait for your scores! I had a quick question regarding how you guys keep track of your LR drilling. I am in the process of fool proofing PT's 1-35 and decided (with the help of @Freddy_D and @"Alex Divine") to work in some LR in order to stay sharp. I decided to just use the LR sections from whatever PT I was fool proofing that day in order to keep it simple. As of right now, that's PT12.

My question to you is: how do you keep track of your LR performance? I think that I will only do one of the two LR sections in order to free up some time to work through the Trainer but I am curious as to what your methods are for going through LR.

Thanks everyone!

I just finished the core curriculum, yay me. I am taking the Sept Lsat. I took a diagnostic a few months ago and got a terrible 148. I just took my first lsat since then timed proctored etc. I scored a 154 :/ improvement but not much. I did the BR though and scored a 170. I was wondering since it seems that my grasp on the material is good how to improve my actual PT score from here. I am currently fool proofing games. Break down on missed PT -16 LR -8LG -14 RC, BR -10 LR -0LG -3RC. I misread a rule on the last game and missed everyone. I felt really strong during cc on drills. I have trouble concentrating through the test, and feel myself fumbling about and running blindly instead of staying calm and doing what I have been practicing doing. Any tips to improve on anything would be appreciated. 83 DAYS!

Has anyone else had or resolved a problem playing the logic games explanations from the android app?I had hoped to be able to watch them on my phone instead of just the computer, but they won't play.

Does anyone else have more optimism about their test score the further they get from the June LSAT? I was pretty defeated after taking the test, but the more I think about it the better I think I did. Am I delusional? haha is anyone else having this experience?

So i just started my 4th week of foolproofing and i have improved drastically!!! Most games i am getting in and around 8/9 minutes. My question is, should i continue strictly proofing or should i take my first PT. I still plan on proofing even after i move out of doing it the full day. Whats your take? Should i stay proofing until i am perfect? Or should i expand my horizons?

sorry another question regarding whether to cancel or not :(

I just finished the test today and I am sure that I screwed up one of the LG sections.

It's my first time taking LSAT and

My situation is :

I got

LG, LR, RC, LR, LG on test day

I know that I totally screwed up the first LG section, I am sure that I got at least -6 on it (I guessed 5 questions because I ran out of the time)

I did better at the second LG but still guessed 2-3 questions.

LG was supposed to be my best performing sections which I usually got a -0 or -1 on preptests, but I have no idea why I get stuck by some of the questions on test day, this is why I ran out of time :((( I felt terrible because I know that I underperformed today.

I can't figure out which one is the experiment section (both sections is fairly similar regarding the difficulty)... but I am sure that I underperformed in either LG sections...

I usually get -8 to -10 on LR and I felt like I would probably got the same result on today's test since I still ran out of my time and guessed for 3-4 questions in total.

RC is always my weakest section, but I felt I did okay on RC today, although I am still feeling like I was just using my gut to answers many of the questions and not really sure about all of them...

The reason that I am thinking about canceling is : I am pretty sure that I won't use this score to apply for law school because I am aiming for 165+, and I really don't feel like I could reach this goal on this test. Also, if the LG section I screwed up is the real one, then my score will highly likely to be very very low (140 ish or 150 ish !?), and I am really worry that it will give a bad impression to the law school that I apply to or they might average them !!!

The reason that I am thinking about keeping the score is : if I am really lucky, the LG section I screwed up is the experiment one, and I get lucky on LR and RC sections, there is still possibility I could score a 160+ or maybe even 165+(If I am extremely lucky lol). In addition, while I can already expect that I won't get a satisfying score, I really want to know exactly how I performed this time even if it is bad.

I already decided that I would definitely take the following September exam since I am ultimately aiming for a 170+, and I am really struggling now knowing that it is highly likely I won't get a satisfying score, while still want to know exactly how I performed ...

I appreciate a lot if someone could offer me some advices, thank you so so much !

Hey All,

Quick question about your PTing procedure- how do you guys decide where to put your experimental section? I've been placing it randomly. Before I take a PT or look at which sections are which, I'll decide "okay, I'll take my experimental section 2nd, 3rd, last, etc." However, being that I always know which section is my experimental section, it hardly simulates testing conditions. There is inevitably a more "relaxed" approach to a section that I already foreknow is not going to be scored.

Thoughts on this? Also, does anyone know if there are any statistics determining how often the experimental section appears first, second, third, fourth or last?

Thanks!

So, I'm confused, what are we supposed to do with the Misc. Questions/LR Drills/LG Drills/PT 1-35 PT drills? There doesn't seem to be any defined instruction? Can I skip over those sections aside from the LG Drills (foolproofing) and go to the PTs? If it helps, I am writing in September (and most likely December)

Hey guys,

7Sage was awesome to me and I'd love to give back.

JY and team were super helpful and amazing.

I have some LSAT textbooks from 2015 that I'm ready to throw out. PM me if you are in Brooklyn, NY near East Flatbush Brooklyn and would like to have them.

I'm headed to William & Mary Law and am happy that my LSAT days are over! Good luck!

Admin edit: Removed email so user does not get spam. Please PM the OP.

HELLLLLOOOOO 7SAGE COMMUNITY

Okay, you know i saw this as one of my options after exams ended in the middle of April, but i had the POWERSCORE BIBLES already so from the end of April till today i have been reading and doing some drills from there. Not a knock on the curriculum i certainly learned a lot, but i thought to extend my hours of interest into the LSAT i thought a better interactive experience a la 7Sage was needed.

Chiefly, I finished most of the Logical Reasoning book and got my first exposure to the Conditional Reasoning / and a bit of Formal Logic in that book, which was new to me. Interestingly, at this time I was also under the impression that i would drill the question types 1 by 1 (MBT, A, CBT, MP) (which i know now is not recommended, but i think i will do in the beginning for as much as i think is needed not to burn as much PTS)

In May, I then switched from that and tried to get my exposure to Logic Games and read through as much as i can--mind you i was trying to be ready for September 2017 {thank God for 7Sage's tip to not to take it within 3 months} Anyway, i signed up 2 days ago listened to webinars, heard the methods and philosophies and AM happy I decided to find out what this place was all about!!

Here is my situation I am still in the process of finishing my degree but my schedule allows me to only have to take one course in September, meaning i will have an excess of time to PT, and BR, but before then i want to drill and hone my skills using material from PTs 1-35

Currently, until middle of August I am also taking one other class, so essentially I HAVE a BOAT LOAD of time to dedicate and prepare for December, with a so-so knowledge of Logic Games and Logical Reasoning, just minimal drilling at this point, because i have been jumping between school and this.

Here is what i have:

-Time 7 days a week: maybe 2-4 hours max for school/ 2 or 3* a week

-I have all the 3 books of POWERSCORE LR: 70% done LG: 50% done {basic/adv ordering and Grouping} RC: 0%

-I have Mike Kim's LSAT trainer 2nd edition {i might save this for august or after i strenthen my base knowledge and mechanics}

*my goal is to power through and complete Powerscore and 7sage for the 2nd week of July}

I have all PTS 1-80, and also i have them grouped in booklets from POWERSCORE per section {LR,LG, RC}, / per type

From what i have gathered this is the best thing to to do in my beginning stages is to drill the foundations of every question type for LR through practice and BR using PT LR Questions 1-20, then 20-35 i would save until i have comfortably drilled RC and LG to do as an actual PT, rather individually.

For LG drill the foolproof method using PT 1-20 or up to 35

For RC i have no idea what to do here yet i haven't looked it up.

In any case, if i can get a veteran advice or even someone who was here a couple of months ago to suggest improvements to this plan. I am simply looking to see what people could say to someone who had 5 months to prep that already has a bit of the knowledge, and has lots of time. What to do, what not to do etc. {i have found looking at answers = bad, defeats BR} and grouping question types {but i'm new and need to build a base from there}. I would still say that i am early in my prep and just want to know where i should focus and prioritize i.e., LG over LR or vice versa. My goal is to be ready to PT by August, because in August i have 4 weeks to do only this before i start my one course and i want a perfect balance of purely PTing before December.

For example, If by august i am in PT mode should i PT + BR PTs 35-50AUGSEP; 50-65OCT; 65-80NOV / or 30-50AUGSEP; 50-80OCTNOV

Additionally, I was going to type out as much LR questions and give explanations for the rights and wrongs to get as much exposure to the structure of LR questions similarly as to what David did to earn his 170, coupled with PTing. Any specifics would be greatly appreciated, such as maybe only saving 10 or so for the last month Nov before the December 2nd 2017 test.

Regards,

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Hey friends,

I was wondering if anyone either has experience or knows anyone who has founded their own firm right out of law school? I would go to TLS but I'm not really interested in hearing the backlash of all the biglaw-obsessed elitists that one finds there.

I have always had a love for criminal law that runs deep. I know that a popular starting point in criminal defense is with the local Defender Association or in the local DA's office. Politics are not exactly my thing as I'm very blunt and I will say what needs to be said. In addition, I want the opportunity to say 'no'. On the other hand, I don't want to have to control my zeal in the courtroom while defending my client because the witness whom I'm impeaching has a sister who's high up in the DA's office and I'll get fired if she doesn't like my brazen nature.

I understand I might not be eating too much for the first year or two but, well, this feels right to me. I understand there will be a while where I'm really just learning how to do the job at a high level and people may be more reluctant to want my representation being fresh out of law school until I have a reputation.

Hey everyone,

I'm wondering what people's opinions are for the LSAT Trainer. I hear a lot of people talk here about it being a complimentary book for 7Sage material, but I'm wondering how necessary it is. I've been using 7Sage for the past 7 months and planning to write in September. I utilize both the CC and also listen to all the webinars and read many of the blogs and discussion board comments here. With all that, I wonder if the LSAT Trainer is really going to add anything I haven't yet gleaned from the content available here. I mean if it is just one more thing to read to drive home some points I already know, or a slightly different way of looking at some questions, I wonder if it is worth the time and investment or if my time is better spent at this point just drilling and doing PTs and Blind Reviews till test day.

Any thoughts appreciated!

I thought this was an interesting article and a good read so I wanted to share. It was great practice finding the premise(s) and the conclusion. Any thoughts about the SCOTUS' decision?

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/how-the-supreme-court-gutted-a-historic-civil-rights-remedy.html