I'd rather be able to just glance over at it. Wondering if anyone knows the answer.

Hey everyone,

I'm thankful and happy to say after my June sitting (162), my average for PT's has improved.

I've taken 46, 47, 55, 58, 60, 61 and have averaged 169 (as high as 172).

I'm around my goal (170 would be nice), and I'd like to take more PT's in the 70s before September's sitting.

I have PTs 48-54,56-57, 59, 69, 71, 72, 74, 76, 78 remaining.

I'm going to take 4 more PT's before the 16th.

Keeping in mind of a possible retake in December, I'd like to save some newer PT's.

Should I take as many modern PT's before September as possible, or should I save some?

I'm thinking I'll do 59, 69, 72, 76... Or 69, 71, 72, 74.

Thanks for the advice.

So iv done hundreds upon hundreds of LR questions and i still dont have an answer for this. What does LSAC consider acceptable outside knowledge. What can i assume?

Hi,

I thought "other cases" are alwas irrelevant to the case discussed in the stimulus...

I thought "yes, maybe that happens in this case, but may not in the specific case discussed in the stimulus."

So I kind of always eliminate those answers.

But for example in PT 71 Sec 1 Q12...the correct answer is B, which uses other mountainous regions to support the argument.

I cannot recall exact question numbers, but I'm pretty sure those answers including "other" things are red flag...

So my question is...

When do these "other" choices work and when do not?

Do they work in support/weaken questions always?

I just thought those "other" cases are irrelevant in discussing what happens in the stimulus.

I'd appreciate any insights.

Thanks

Was wondering how people go about squeezing every question for all that it can teach.

Hey all,

So I do poorly on my first two sections of my test but then get better and more focused on the last two.

Anyone else have this problem and how to solve it??

Thanks

I need some insight. I Took the LSAT dec 16 and was not nearly prepped. I decided to retake and have been studying hard since april or so.

Im at a strange phase in my studying where i am scoring around and sometimes above my potential but iv only taken 7 tests. Ive done multitudes of timed sections and drilling.i feel very confident, but my brain is starting to get toasted from studying.

I am signed up for september. And until this week i was planning on postponing till December. But now i kinda wanna take it.

My concerns are as follows. I have foolproofed 1-40 games. I also proofed the games i have taken in PTs. But i still havent seen alot of games. I also havent really touched the 60s and only took PT 78,70,71,72,60,61,65.

So i have alot of material i am not exposed to..

Averaging a 170, havent gotten above a 174 yet.

What do you guys think? should i postpone?, or take it with a slight chance of a cancellation?

Hey guys, I'm having trouble finding which lesson what I wrote in my notes is from. I have:

Tuesday->rain->sad

= if tuesday, it will rain, and it will be sad

Vs.

Tuesday-> (rain->sad)

= on tuesday, if it rains, its sad

I want to review this, but I can't find the lesson... does anyone know?

Thanks!!!

I found this website a couple months ago before I joined 7sage. It gives ratings and reviews of LSAT testing centers. Should be helpful for those of you deciding where to take your exam!

http://www.simugator.com/lsat-test-site-rater.php

Are there many things more dangerous on this test than a Sufficient Assumption answer choice in a Necessary Assumption question? It's like trying to distinguish a blueberry from something that looks like a blueberry but is poisonous. Not to mention we've only got 30 seconds to do it and if we fail, the effects of the poison compound for years.

I feel like I've got to be like Michael Jordan on the clutch...17 seconds to go in a 62-61 game and sinking the jump shot with confidence, every time. Should I prepare before hand so I'm ready for the situation? Or should I not think about it so when the time comes I'm relaxed? You know what, I'll meditate on it. I'll practice my mindfulness for the performance after I tune my brain to distinguish the strength of arguments floating in the ether that aren't made in the conversation.

If anyone tells me this test won't prepare me for law school, I will likely question their sensibility. For ((-- premise indicator) this is a mental transition. (em)Although ((--- conceding a point that probably doesn't matter) this isn't teaching me about torts, you bet I'm going to read those books quicker, with greater scrutiny, tact, and anticipation. And much later on when I'm helping my clients defend themselves, you bet I'm going to drive my opponents to the ground with their assumptions.(/p)

Hey everyone,

So I know I disappeared for awhile - don't hate me, but I'm back! After really weighing it out, i've decided to do the September exam for a couple reasons. Mainly, I genuinely believe I can get the score I want. But the anxiety came when I went to Disney World for two days (a long time planned vacation). I honestly thought I would have no motivation to study and would see a significant decrease in my score. Instead, I'm genuinely refreshed and inspired. It's like a finally have room in my brain and everything is starting to really stick. I really thought I was going to be exhausted (5 am morning till 2 am the next morning and I managed to do completely do 3 parks in one day) but instead i'm totally recharged. My LR skills seemed to have sharpened and become really reliable. So to anyone right now feeling totally burnt out - TAKE A BREAK! A full out break, where you don't think about the LSAT and do something FUN. You will not regret it.

A little LSAT inspiration post for those of us hard at work!

Hello! I've been practicing timing with a Timex watch but I find that the seconds hand ticks waaaay too loudly for my peace of mind. I can usually zone it out but I'd rather not have to focus on doing that. My current watch also lacks a bezel so I want to rectify that situation as well. I was wondering if anyone has a recommendation on a watch (with a bezel) where the seconds hand doesn't tick loudly? Preferably silently? Trying not to spend too much $ here but also want a solid watch for test day. I also don't care if it's a men's or women's watch, how it looks doesn't really matter to me as long as the face/numbers/hands are clear.

Hello 7Sagers,

So I just finished grading PT 77, and scored a 180 on it. I am absolutely flabbergasted!

Of course this hurricane just decimated the city. My family and I are fine, my apartment and the surrounding area are under water but luckily i live on the third floor so none of my stuff is wet and i came to my parents house on the other side of the city that drains a little better.

Im scheduled to take the LSAT this September, and have been studying since December '16. Got an email from the LSAC and they said they'd make provisions regarding the LSAT due to my location (the university of houston) literally being under water.

Has anyone else had a catastrophic issue like this where the LSAC had to reschedule or change the location? If so, what are some of the things they do and the possibilities? One person told me they may move the test to San Antonio, which is 3 hours away from houston. If i have to go to San Antonio, I'm moving the test to December. Im not adding that stress of having to make that ridiculous commute for an already difficult test.

This whole ordeal has been stressful, my family and I have been stranded in our home since Friday. Still have power, food, and internet, a couple generators if needed, all of which is more than most have. And none of my stuff is ruined. Roads and highways are still flooded. My car is okay for now, its in our garage which has a little water but not high enough to harm my car. So for now, i still have transportation but theres more rain coming tomorrow so who knows.

What would be the correct way to diagram this?

A->B->C

Or

(A->B)->C

Hi guys so since we are almost 2 weeks away before the sept lsat, I need serious advice. I have seen major improvements these past two months, however, it's not where I would like to be and I feel like if i go into the sept test I feel, I will not do my best. I would like a score between 163-165, however, the highest I have scored is a 163 with an average range between 157-160 and I believe you should be practicing a couple point above. So what do you guys think? I know the obvious answer would be to move it, I was just hesitant, whether to rewrite it twice or if it's always better to do better the first time around as I am hoping to apply this cycle.

I am scheduled to take the September exam ( 18 days) for the 1st time. I have been having inconsistent PT's from 157-163 within the past 2 weeks. I've been taking 1/2 PT daily. My goal is at least 168 Maybe even 165. I'm debating whether I should reschedule for December or not. I'm weakest at RC missing sometimes 7/8. LR from 5-7 & LG from 0-3. Any advice?

I will be in India in December and taking the LSAT there.

I have heard that the overseas tests are usually the past undisclosed tests. However, is the format the same ie, 2LR, 1LG and 1 RC and a writing sample?

Additionally are there any other unforeseen disadvantages to giving the test overseas apart from not being able to analyse your tests once you get your score?

I'd love to know if any fellow 7sager's have taken the test abroad and what the experience was like.

Thanks in advance :)

I feel since J.Y. has drawn out detailed explanations of almost every LSAT question in existence, that he, if anyone, would stand the best chance at getting a perfect score on new tests. But what do you all think?

Hi everyone! I'm registered for the Sept. 2017 exam but have weird background and need advice on whether you recommend I study this month & take it or wait until Dec., and also would like to know how detrimental it would be to apply when Dec. scores come out?

Background:

I'm a paralegal at a big law firm and my hours are really insane. I took the Testmasters course Nov - Jan but missed some classes/didn't take advantage of it so waited & took the exam for the first time June 2017. I got really busy at work right before it and would say I only seriously studied for 2 months (with TM books). I thought it was ok but I didn't feel great so I cancelled my score (had been PT'ing at 158-162). Planned to take it this Sept. but been busy with work all summer and now I'm not sure... is 4 weeks of intense studying enough or should I wait till Dec.? Is the 7SAGE membership for just these weeks worth it? Or should I just do practice tests? I also have the LSAT trainer book.

Thank you so much!

I was wondering if anyone has heard of Nathan Fox's tutoring? I've heard mixed reviews about the on-site classes. I'm currently debating between signing up for the on-site classes with him and signing up for Ultimate+ with 7Sage. I do work full-time so I'm not sure how much I trust myself to go with online classes-- if I go with Fox I know that I'll have to at least sit there on the weekends. Any Bay area folks have any more insight on this? Any resources you all have used or are using? (Are there any study groups currently for folks in SF?)

Appreciate any input! :)

Hey Y'all,

The final stretch for me before the September 2017 LSAT is here, and once again I turn to you, the 7sage community, for wisdom and guidance (lol)

My score breakdown for my last 5 PTs falls into these ranges (all numbers are the # of questions I typically get wrong)

LR: 0-3

RC: 4

LG: 2-4

I now typically score just over 170. My last two PTs my LR has been near, if not exactly, -0.

My RC fell hard when I hit PT 70, but it came back up to -4 or less after that.

My LG for the past 10 PTs has been 2-4 wrong.

I don't know what to focus on. Tomorrow I plan on doing my 3 weakest yet the most rare LR questions and fool proofing LG games 72-76.

QUESTION: What should I focus on to ensure I stay in that 170 range come test day? I'm thinking LR And LG tomorrow, then on my next drilling day I do LG and RC. How does that sound? Any tips? Also, any recommendation on hard RC sections I can practice on?

Thanks!

I plateaued around 168 and did PT65 this Wednesday (six sections).

I finally break 170 (this is my 6th PT) and scored 174 (with a BR score 179)!!!!

Here is my breakdown:

-2 LR (BR -2; still haven't figured out "the domesticated animal problem")

-1 LG (BR -0; caught my mistake during PT but did not have enough time to change)

-6 RC (BR -2 still need to work on RC)

-0 LR (my best LR so far!!!! really excited!!)

Do trust yourself (I basically gave up the hope of getting a 170 before September) and the process (it usually took me 1.5 days to finish BR and listen to JY's explanations; i have to admit BR is a painful process) .

I also find using a clean copy to BR a much better method!

Is this helpful for scoring into the high 160s, and high 170s?

Hi Fellow 7Sagers,

I am wondering what other people do prior to the test, on test day - meaning, ritual, warm-up drills, things that they was successful or wish they would have done but didn't, etc. I have a routine, but I am always wanting to hear other people's approach. I have found that I miss an easy problem or two right at the beginning of a test, and I am trying to thwart that from happening due to not being in the LSAT mode. Secondly, if any of yall' are not "morning people" (like myself) - meaning I am slow to get my brain working at a high analytic level early in the morning - I am especially interested in what you have done to combat this (besides coffee! This caused me to get up to use the restroom during the 2nd section my first test, which I subsequently cancelled because of this!). I am taking the LSAT in Sept, so I figure this thread might be useful to others given the timing.

My routine: do a hard logic game, do 5 LR questions that I know to be difficult, and do one reading passage. It is about a 30 minute warm up prior to heading into the testing center.

Thanks everyone!