I took the curve data from PowerScore from the past few years (https://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/correct_targeted.cfm) and used it to "predict" how tough each of the June, Sept/Oct, and Dec LSATs* are. The more questions you can miss to get a 170 the tougher the exam. Here were the results (in order of toughness) with the average, median, and mode number of misses for a 170:

1. December (A: -12, Me.: -12 , Mo.: -14)

2. September/October (-11, -11.5, -12)

3. June (-10.5, -10, -10)

If you want to see the spreadsheet take a look here (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R50NrcEHESugADTvR1Xz4MmyMlJpp9oU3GtYP7vRq5Y/edit?usp=sharing). Scroll to the bottom or see sheet 2 for summary chart.

Good luck to my fellow December takers! And for anyone who hasn't signed up yet, maybe take the June exam. :)

*PowerScore doesn't have February data.

Hi all,

I am seeking some advice as I have been studying on/off for a little over a year now and am only scoring in the 159-164 range, BR in the 165-170's. I have been planning to take this December exam, but decided to post-pone last minute - now really hoping to write in February 2017. I have taken almost all the recent exams, but can't seem to consistently score in the upper160's or break into the 170's. RC/LR are my weakest, LG is pretty strong. I have been doing the same thing - take the timed PT/BR/review. I also occasionally go back to the CC and take timed sections of retakes, but I haven't really seen any jumps in my score in quite awhile. Becoming quite discouraged and thinking this field may not be for me if I'm struggling this much with the LSAT and when it's only going to get harder from here. Anyway, I think a lot of my struggle comes a lot from the mental endurance more so than being unable to grasp the concepts. Any advice of what I should focus on until February - do recent retakes/drill/timed sections/etc. - would be much appreciated.

Thanks guys.

Do y'all think it's worth spending the extra 5-10 seconds to reset your watch to 12 at the start of each section? I do wish I'd done more PT's with an analog watch instead of my phone timer, but oh well.

So my government issued ID has a photo of me with longer hair, so I look a little different. It isn't expired or anything and the photo was taken last year, do you think it is anything to worry about? My admission ticket has a recent photo of me so not worried about that one...thanks and good luck tomorrow!!!

Thanks for the advice.

I was just wondering...

So is there a sample of writing section?

There is explanation for LG, RC, LR, but I dont see any writing sample...

I know it does not matter, but it's still part of the test so...

I usually get 3-4 wrong in each LR section..and I got 4 wrong in 2nd section and 8 wrong in 4th...

Anyone experienced the same thing???

Hi all,

I just wanted to wish everyone the best of luck on the December LSAT! Things like this (the LSAT) can be crazy stressful because there appears to be so much riding on it. However, just remember that whether you're feeling confident or stressed as hell, you're going to write the test, you're going to do the absolute best that you can, and at the end of the day that is all you can do :) Never forget that it's just a test and you'll always have more opportunities to improve!

Now go kill it! :D

Hello,

So how do you know you have a realistic goal?

How do you know you reach your ceiling and cannot actually improve anymore but still hope so (=unrealisitc)?

I mean...I want to know when to "give up" and just take the test...

For some people, I think it's not true that if you devote time and effort you can get any score you want.

Some people may be able to do so, but it may take 5 years, who knows. But then I wonder...does it worth it when you think about the cost and return? (and the return is not sure until you get the score)

When I read some threads here, it is encouraging, but also sometimes feel not sure about "when is the best timing to take the test."

It seems people recommend to take the test when you are ready, but when is it?

It can be years later, you may extend&extend&extend...feeling it's not the right time and you can still improve.

And when you turn back, you may feel "since I devoted so much effort and time, I have to get good score, otherwise, I wasted so many things" etc.

I'm afraid this can happen...

So, I'd like to know how to know you have a decent target score or not, so that I don't have to expect too high and study realistically.

Thanks!

Hey guys, I'm just wondering if i can take a protein shake in powdered form with me to the test and then fill it with water and drink it during the break. I feel like that's allowed as long as it fits in the ziplock but i just want to be sure.

anyone knows? :)

So I printed my ticket today and I have to that it looks bad. You can tell that it is me but an inch of my chin is missing and small part of the crown of my head is as well. I wish I could post a picture on here so I could get some advice

This may be a dumb question --- but when I fill in "Print Name" and "Date" on my admission ticket, should I type it into the PDF before I print? Or can I hand-write it like the signature?

Finally, do we just need proper photo ID and the first page of our admission ticket when we check into the test? do they need the rest of the ticket?

My body feels hot and heavy...had vitamin C a lot, but not sure it works.

Should I have some cold medicine? I heard it can worsen the symptoms...

Anyone took the test while being sick? How was it...could not do well at all?

Should I do some jogging? Or it just makes things worse...

In JY's breakdown of this statement:

All dinosaurs that hunt its prey can run, swim and fly. Dinosaurs that cannot run, cannot swim or cannot fly are easy to catch and delicious to eat. Nothing can catch the Fastasaurus. He diagrams "Dinosaurs that cannot run, cannot swim or cannot fly are easy to catch and delicious to eat" as R/---> E and D, S/---> E and D, F/---> E and D. When it was actually drawn out R/, S/, and F/ were all stacked and each pointed to a single E and D. But this doesn't make sense to me. Isn't it the case that an "And" in the sufficient should be treated as "A and B----->" and an "And" in the necessary be treated as "A ----->B, A----->C, A-----> D" but in a stacked notation? Why does JY do the opposite? He stacks and separates the sufficient "AND" and makes the necessary "And" linear.

Hi All!

I've already sent in my applications for the September 2017 class and I originally expected to write the LSAT in December but I've decided to postpone until February. I don't like where I'm scoring if I want to have a really good chance of getting into the top schools in Canada.

All the schools I've applied to will accept the February LSAT for admission considerations for entry in September.

But my biggest issue is, how should I study to be effective in the two months that I have? I personally feel like I didn't learn the core curriculum well enough to have a good foundation when tackling the prep tests, but is it wise to go through it all again from the beginning? Will I have enough time? Or should I focus solely on prep tests?

I'm really aiming for a 165+ and currently scoring around 155-160 on timed prep tests.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Hi guys,

Brief history: I took the LSAT in September 2016 and scored a 164 (raw score 81/100) after an unorthodox study schedule (studied using the Princeton Review course from October to Dec. 2015; resumed studying in July 2016 until the September 2016 LSAT practicing off real PTs and using 7sage during late Aug-September primarily for the RC section). I got -8 on the RC section, -4 on the LG, and -4 and -3 off on the LR sections.

I've taken a break since September and now am looking to take the February 2017 LSAT, with an ideal objective of scoring 170+. Based on my studying history, do you guys have any particular suggestions as to how/what I should study? As in, should I try to re-learn concepts and start from the basics, or buy certain books? Any and all help will be very much appreciated! Thanks in advance.

What are you guys doing tomorrow? Are you going to study at all, or just relax? Go over any lessons as a refresher?

Just a simple BR worksheet you can print out double sided and use if you find it helpful and you're not already tired of printing. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YM5Vmzap38SSVhloin5PYEffF6DPv6_uc2IJo6yoYBU/edit?usp=sharing

check it out PT 79....LR -4 LG -5 ( usually 2-3), -3LR........-14 RC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please what is wrong with me !!!

Hi

I thought if there is no cause, then no effect can be true and can strengthen an argument.

then I met this question...PT65.S1.Q15.

From the correct answer it seems it suggests even though there is no such a cause, an effect can happen and thus the argument is a flaw.

So...no cause, then no effect does not actually always be true??

Why in one case it can be a strengthener and in another case it is a flaw...

I took the day off work to relax.

I'm thinking a hot bath, Harry Potter movies, and some light drills?

What are you guys doing?

I am freaking out right now. I've been studying for about 5 months now and since taking the September LSAT, I was scoring at a 171 average timed (range between 169-173). Over the past week I've been consistently getting between 165-169. I don't know what to do! I've taken almost all of the PTs so even if I skip out on the Dec LSAT and take an ENTIRE year off my life (at HUGE opportunity cost -- I don't understand how people can be so cavalier about it), I don't have enough materials to continue studying so I don't know how much it would even help. Anyone else experiencing this? Any words of advice?

So, we go through the entire Core Curriculum, we quiz, drill, answer the questions, BR our work, then review our BR--then we have all of this paper and notes for PTs 1-35. Then what do you do when you need those notes for shattering thought processes going through each PT in order to increase our scores going forward?

Do you keep it all for reviewing often when you're going through each PT? (Maybe this is the BR of that PT that I don't quite understand yet, since I haven't done it yet). When do you come back to some of the lessons and those markups?

Do you keep all of the quizzes, drills, etc. (mine kinda look like Jackson Pollock paintings---I do try to be efficient since I'm identifying intuitions, etc.) so you can review them EACH, as you progress through all of the PTs until the most recent administration is turned into a fresh PT, and then ready to sit for the LSAT?

I mean, how the heck do you all keep track of EVERYTHING? And how often does everyone refer back to EVERYTHING done/learned so far?

I'm starting to see patterns in questions, and assume this will gather in quantity the more PTs I do, but how do you possibly know which shattered thinking you shouldn't repeat?? And worse, when and where that shattered thinking started?

I suppose what I'm asking is: when/how do you know you've shattered a bad habit? Do your scores increase?

Am I supposed to wade through the mountain of paper and previously-done quizzes and drills each time I need to find what I'm doing wrong? How the heck do you catalog it all?

I'm still trying to make sense of how to retain so much of the information, and I'm just finishing the MSS section. :/ (Of course, now I realize why we need so long to study for this bedamndable test).

I know I can refer back to all of the awesome CC lessons, and my notes on each, and SHOULD refer back as often as is necessary, but damn, this is a bunch of info to absorb. If you start a new section each day, how do you keep the info in your head from the previous section--days, weeks, and months later?

I'm a little overwhelmed at the moment, and I've been at this for some months now, obviously, not long enough. (thank goodness I took y'all's advice and withdrew from Saturday's sit.) >__<

Any suggestions and direction are appreciated. THANK YOU! xo *breathing deeply into the paper bag...I have 7 more months of this??*

Just as the title says---

I think it is listed in the thing we can bring but just wanted to make sure...

and anyone actually use it?