Hi all,

I just wanted to wish everyone the best of luck on the December LSAT! Things like this (the LSAT) can be crazy stressful because there appears to be so much riding on it. However, just remember that whether you're feeling confident or stressed as hell, you're going to write the test, you're going to do the absolute best that you can, and at the end of the day that is all you can do :) Never forget that it's just a test and you'll always have more opportunities to improve!

Now go kill it! :D

Hello,

So how do you know you have a realistic goal?

How do you know you reach your ceiling and cannot actually improve anymore but still hope so (=unrealisitc)?

I mean...I want to know when to "give up" and just take the test...

For some people, I think it's not true that if you devote time and effort you can get any score you want.

Some people may be able to do so, but it may take 5 years, who knows. But then I wonder...does it worth it when you think about the cost and return? (and the return is not sure until you get the score)

When I read some threads here, it is encouraging, but also sometimes feel not sure about "when is the best timing to take the test."

It seems people recommend to take the test when you are ready, but when is it?

It can be years later, you may extend&extend&extend...feeling it's not the right time and you can still improve.

And when you turn back, you may feel "since I devoted so much effort and time, I have to get good score, otherwise, I wasted so many things" etc.

I'm afraid this can happen...

So, I'd like to know how to know you have a decent target score or not, so that I don't have to expect too high and study realistically.

Thanks!

Hey guys, I'm just wondering if i can take a protein shake in powdered form with me to the test and then fill it with water and drink it during the break. I feel like that's allowed as long as it fits in the ziplock but i just want to be sure.

anyone knows? :)

So I printed my ticket today and I have to that it looks bad. You can tell that it is me but an inch of my chin is missing and small part of the crown of my head is as well. I wish I could post a picture on here so I could get some advice

This may be a dumb question --- but when I fill in "Print Name" and "Date" on my admission ticket, should I type it into the PDF before I print? Or can I hand-write it like the signature?

Finally, do we just need proper photo ID and the first page of our admission ticket when we check into the test? do they need the rest of the ticket?

My body feels hot and heavy...had vitamin C a lot, but not sure it works.

Should I have some cold medicine? I heard it can worsen the symptoms...

Anyone took the test while being sick? How was it...could not do well at all?

Should I do some jogging? Or it just makes things worse...

In JY's breakdown of this statement:

All dinosaurs that hunt its prey can run, swim and fly. Dinosaurs that cannot run, cannot swim or cannot fly are easy to catch and delicious to eat. Nothing can catch the Fastasaurus. He diagrams "Dinosaurs that cannot run, cannot swim or cannot fly are easy to catch and delicious to eat" as R/---> E and D, S/---> E and D, F/---> E and D. When it was actually drawn out R/, S/, and F/ were all stacked and each pointed to a single E and D. But this doesn't make sense to me. Isn't it the case that an "And" in the sufficient should be treated as "A and B----->" and an "And" in the necessary be treated as "A ----->B, A----->C, A-----> D" but in a stacked notation? Why does JY do the opposite? He stacks and separates the sufficient "AND" and makes the necessary "And" linear.

Hi All!

I've already sent in my applications for the September 2017 class and I originally expected to write the LSAT in December but I've decided to postpone until February. I don't like where I'm scoring if I want to have a really good chance of getting into the top schools in Canada.

All the schools I've applied to will accept the February LSAT for admission considerations for entry in September.

But my biggest issue is, how should I study to be effective in the two months that I have? I personally feel like I didn't learn the core curriculum well enough to have a good foundation when tackling the prep tests, but is it wise to go through it all again from the beginning? Will I have enough time? Or should I focus solely on prep tests?

I'm really aiming for a 165+ and currently scoring around 155-160 on timed prep tests.

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Hi guys,

Brief history: I took the LSAT in September 2016 and scored a 164 (raw score 81/100) after an unorthodox study schedule (studied using the Princeton Review course from October to Dec. 2015; resumed studying in July 2016 until the September 2016 LSAT practicing off real PTs and using 7sage during late Aug-September primarily for the RC section). I got -8 on the RC section, -4 on the LG, and -4 and -3 off on the LR sections.

I've taken a break since September and now am looking to take the February 2017 LSAT, with an ideal objective of scoring 170+. Based on my studying history, do you guys have any particular suggestions as to how/what I should study? As in, should I try to re-learn concepts and start from the basics, or buy certain books? Any and all help will be very much appreciated! Thanks in advance.

What are you guys doing tomorrow? Are you going to study at all, or just relax? Go over any lessons as a refresher?

Just a simple BR worksheet you can print out double sided and use if you find it helpful and you're not already tired of printing. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YM5Vmzap38SSVhloin5PYEffF6DPv6_uc2IJo6yoYBU/edit?usp=sharing

check it out PT 79....LR -4 LG -5 ( usually 2-3), -3LR........-14 RC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please what is wrong with me !!!

Hi

I thought if there is no cause, then no effect can be true and can strengthen an argument.

then I met this question...PT65.S1.Q15.

From the correct answer it seems it suggests even though there is no such a cause, an effect can happen and thus the argument is a flaw.

So...no cause, then no effect does not actually always be true??

Why in one case it can be a strengthener and in another case it is a flaw...

I took the day off work to relax.

I'm thinking a hot bath, Harry Potter movies, and some light drills?

What are you guys doing?

I am freaking out right now. I've been studying for about 5 months now and since taking the September LSAT, I was scoring at a 171 average timed (range between 169-173). Over the past week I've been consistently getting between 165-169. I don't know what to do! I've taken almost all of the PTs so even if I skip out on the Dec LSAT and take an ENTIRE year off my life (at HUGE opportunity cost -- I don't understand how people can be so cavalier about it), I don't have enough materials to continue studying so I don't know how much it would even help. Anyone else experiencing this? Any words of advice?

So, we go through the entire Core Curriculum, we quiz, drill, answer the questions, BR our work, then review our BR--then we have all of this paper and notes for PTs 1-35. Then what do you do when you need those notes for shattering thought processes going through each PT in order to increase our scores going forward?

Do you keep it all for reviewing often when you're going through each PT? (Maybe this is the BR of that PT that I don't quite understand yet, since I haven't done it yet). When do you come back to some of the lessons and those markups?

Do you keep all of the quizzes, drills, etc. (mine kinda look like Jackson Pollock paintings---I do try to be efficient since I'm identifying intuitions, etc.) so you can review them EACH, as you progress through all of the PTs until the most recent administration is turned into a fresh PT, and then ready to sit for the LSAT?

I mean, how the heck do you all keep track of EVERYTHING? And how often does everyone refer back to EVERYTHING done/learned so far?

I'm starting to see patterns in questions, and assume this will gather in quantity the more PTs I do, but how do you possibly know which shattered thinking you shouldn't repeat?? And worse, when and where that shattered thinking started?

I suppose what I'm asking is: when/how do you know you've shattered a bad habit? Do your scores increase?

Am I supposed to wade through the mountain of paper and previously-done quizzes and drills each time I need to find what I'm doing wrong? How the heck do you catalog it all?

I'm still trying to make sense of how to retain so much of the information, and I'm just finishing the MSS section. :/ (Of course, now I realize why we need so long to study for this bedamndable test).

I know I can refer back to all of the awesome CC lessons, and my notes on each, and SHOULD refer back as often as is necessary, but damn, this is a bunch of info to absorb. If you start a new section each day, how do you keep the info in your head from the previous section--days, weeks, and months later?

I'm a little overwhelmed at the moment, and I've been at this for some months now, obviously, not long enough. (thank goodness I took y'all's advice and withdrew from Saturday's sit.) >__<

Any suggestions and direction are appreciated. THANK YOU! xo *breathing deeply into the paper bag...I have 7 more months of this??*

Just as the title says---

I think it is listed in the thing we can bring but just wanted to make sure...

and anyone actually use it?

Should I take another prep test tomorrow morning before the Saturday exam? I took one on Tuesday and subconsciously feel as if I take another tomorrow I might risk being burnt out for the exam? Would I be better off just doing individual sections instead of a full length exam?

Thanks...and good luck to you all. God Speed.

I have heard from a few people that they got away with not including the courses they have taken at CC's. I know withdrawing isn't generally punitive but I do have a W. What are my chances with getting away with not including my CC transcript?

Unfortunately I was not able to take advantage of @"J.Y. Ping" 's BR sessions on 79. Now I am needing some help understanding some things from 79 to clarify my understanding. I feel decent about what I got wrong but I always like J.Y.'s explanation videos because they help cement or expose my learning as necessary. Are there any help places on the web with questions explanations for PT 79 or should I just corner @"Accounts Playable" during his office hours (because no one else will want his time...right?).

This weekend is going to be FUN. December LSAT here we come!

I was offered admission to my top choice school today. I could not have done it without the support and guidance of the 7Sage community. I really didn't think this would happen - thank you SO much 7Sage for preparing me.

Best of luck to everyone waiting on decisions - you got this!!

I figured I'd post this as a discussion rather than a comment on the quiz page since it will be seen by more. I have 2 questions regarding the quiz. The first is about question one which is

A person is not guilty of an offense unless his liability is based on conduct which includes a voluntary act not performed under duress I decided to take the first idea (not guilty), negate it, and make it my sufficient condition. So I have G---->UD/. This translates to english as "a person is guilty of a crime if they were not under duress". The contrapositive would be UD--->G/. This translates back to "if a person was under duress than they are not guilty". JY translated the ideas a G/ for not guilty and LC for liable of conduct. This means his translation was G---->LC as in "if they were guilty they were liable for conduct. Contrapositive would be LC/----> G/ which is of course "if they aren't liable for thier conduct they aren't guilty of the crime". So I'm not really sure why we ignore the not in the 2nd part of the sentence (not under duress) but don't ignore it in the first (not guilty). How do I know when I need to account for this "not" and when I can ignore it?

The second question I had for this quiz is from question 6. That sentence reads as

I won’t stop tickling you on the nose until the leprechauns from my dream stop nibbling my toes with their teeth that have the old fashioned braces to correct their severe overbite, a condition endemic to the Aberdeen leprechaun population, of my dreams. For this one I took the 2nd Idea and made it the sufficient. I translated it to N/ for stop nibbling and then applied to the rule so it became N. Then I took the first part of the sentence and made it T. so N--->T and T/----> N/. This translates to english as "if leprechauns are nibbling, I'm tickling" and the contrapositive would be "If I'm not tickling then the leprechauns aren't nibbling". JY's translation was T--->/L and L---->T/. Again this is totally different than mine and we have ignored the "stop" in the 2nd part of the sentence. I can't seem to figure out why that is. Why can we just chalk that entire 2nd part of the sentence up as an "L" but other times we have to account for the "not", "stops", or "won't"?

Hi Guys,

Week 2 with RC practices. I been doing them along just beginning to learn LG.

So I been doing primarily JY ranking L5 and L4 reading sets. And what I find is the following:

If I take more than 6-8 min on the passage and 6-7 min on questions, I can get an average of -1 on the passage. Never a -0 because the questions are usually very subtle.

But if I take the average reading speed which the average textbook recommend, the mistake obviously goes up.

I don't know what exactly to do with this just because 1) The passage usually require time to understand since it always include a lot of referential phrases, 2) the structure is not clear, 3) the answer choice, which is 1/5, targets a specific sentence in the middle of no where where you have to find it.

So does practice help on this? Should I just continue to focus on with my accuracy oriented practice style until later when PT is up or when I finish the actual learning set?

Your recommendation will be highly valuable.

On my admission ticket it says: "rooms posted on test day" and right underneath it mentions what building the Test is going to take place (I am having the test done at a university). I was wondering if you guys have your exact test location assigned to you yet.