I score around 50-60 % on this section. What should I do for the next 19 days before the December test? I've tried the lsat trainer.. it didn't really do much for me. My main issue is timing. i always have to guess on an entire passage. Any tips? guidance is needed. Thanks!

Hi Everyone,

Need some advice/help on LR and RC! Over PTs and on individual sections, I'm scoring pretty inconsistently. On LR, I've been anywhere and everywhere between -1 to -6/section (big spread, I know), and on RC, the best I've ever scored is -3, but recently I scored -9 (oooff)! I'm not really sure why my scores are all over the place, but definitely can't take that risk on test day.

Any advice on how to score more consistently on these sections (and ideally, not consistently -9!)?

TIA!

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I am planning to supplement my pre-December PTs (76, 77, 78 and 79) with another 6-8 PT's with that have -13 or -14 curves. Basically I'm looking for a "hell week" list of PTs. Thusfar, I've got:

The "Undisclosed" Feb 97 PT (-14)

Superprep B (-14)

PT 71, Dec. 2013 (-13)

PT 65, Dec. 2011 (-13)

PT 59, Dec. 2009 (-13)

PT 60, Jun. 2010 (-13)

PT 45, Dec. 2004 (-13)

PT.33, Dec. 2000 (-13)

PT 32, Oct. 2000 (-13)

PT 31, Jun 2000 (-13)

PT 30, Dec 1999 (-13)

PT 27 Dec 1998 (-15)

PT 23, Oct 1997 (minus fucking 16!)

PT 21, Dec 1996 (-13)

I've been studying LSAT for a year..FULL TIME (60-70 hours per week). Yep. A YEAR.

I've rigorously studied every PT from 1-59 and done more than half of 60s. But I am not still hitting 170+...

The only PTs I got 170+ on are 40s... I have to apply this cycle and December and Feb are the only changes left for me and I am still in 165-168 range.

Anyone in my situation?

Hi guys. Looking for some friendly advice.

I've studied off and on for about a year now. My last time studying was about 5 months ago. I am 100% committed to writing and plan on taking the June LSAT.

I've gone through most of the curriculum with 7sage. I still have a bit more Reading Comprehension and I haven't really touched Logic Games yet.

How should I go about starting to study again?

Should I start with Reading Comprehension and then move to Logic Games and end with reviewing Logical Reasoning? I am planning to go over all of the 7sage material again.

I am working 2 jobs right now - about 50 hours a week - so time is precious. I am studying a couple hours a night during the week and spending more time on the weekends studying.

Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

So my LR is pretty decent, LG is definitely one of my strongest sections, and my reading comp score is really quite sad. I think my best bet before the December exam is to nail down my LR and LG as best as I can so I really want to practice the hardest questions of all time. Any recommendations of which logic games to focus on and maybe even some tough LR questions?

Hi,

So I was drilling RC passages, but I do not see much improvement which is really frustrating...

I thought I want to try different methods and I did find lines for each questions, tried to understand what all sentences mean, what makes wrong answers wrong but...unlike LR, would those not be helpful in improving at the section?

Doing more passages is not helpful?

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Hi, all! Do you have some suggestions for RC, I cannot remember the content after I finished the reading and cannot overcome the questions, thank you!

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Greetings fellow 7sagers. I took the Sept. LSAT and did not score as I hoped so I am retaking in Dec. I am virtually out of virgin study material unless I go way back to PTs that do not have comparative passages (I really hope 79 comes out soon). I just tried taking PT 70 over again but I felt that I remembered too many of the questions even though it has been 3 months since I first took it. I finished every section well under the time constraints and missed only two questions. I feel like the real Dec. LSAT is going to be a huge kick in the teeth because I am out of practice on reacting to unseen questions. Should I do some older PTs (not sure how many of those I even have that are untouched) or does anyone have any other recommendations?

I am struggling with both direction for study and motivation (in part because I feel stuck and directionless).

Please help.

Thanks.

Hi,

A few weeks ago, I applied for accommodations, namely 1.5X the regular time and a quiet room. I just wanted to share my experience in case anyone else wants to apply as well.

I applied during the late registration deadline, so I only had a few days to gather my documents. I have a learning disability with ADHD as well. I was diagnosed during my 2nd year of university, and I had never applied for any accommodations at school or for standardized tests. I was afraid that they were going to reject my request because I had no past history, but they approved it!

All I included in my accommodations package were the three forms required by LSAC, a doctor's note confirming my disability and that I wasn't taking any medication, and a psychological evaluation of my learning disabilities with the test results/analysis. I applied on October 25th, and got a response today on November 9th.

I'm really glad that LSAC streamlined the process and made receiving accommodations more accessible. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to PM me.

Also, thank you to everyone at 7Sage for helping me out as well!

how often do you usually diagram? In which question?

Sometimes I feel not diagraming is easy but other times I found diagraming is better...but not sure when and when not to.

Do you read all answer choices in LR by the way? Especially those early questions...

Hi all,

I'm going to an LSAC forum tomorrow and was wondering what to do/dress/wear. I'm actually applying to the 2018 cycle (not this year's application cycle) so will probably just go to the workshops, not so much talk to reps (I hope to do that next year.)

Any advice appreciated!

Hi,

How can I change my username on 7sage? I created it awhile ago and now when I click edit my profile, my username is fixed and can't be altered.

Thanks!

So I may have an issue.

My photo upload shows most of my face (not the bottom part of my chin) and you can also see my shoulders.

It is apparent that I am the person in the photo but I have heard horror stories.

Hi,

I heard modern RC has questions that are more abstract...which PTs do you think this started??

People say "modern" referring which PT? IT is kind of unclear...70s? 60s? or 50s?

Thanks

I need some advice..

I have been studying for 4 months and my scores are going up (thanks 7 sage!) One area I know I can improve on is LG... I have an average of -9 on my LG PTs..so I can definitely get extra points in this area.

I have spent countless hours going over games in the early 30s-70s. I have practiced timing myself for full sections, single games, and I have practiced without a time constraint.

I have been using a strategy that a 7-sager suggested- with an excel doc recording each PT Game I have done with the date, time and score. I expected the mass of games that I studied to help with fresh PTs, but I still feel rushed under time constraint (often leaving several questions unfinished). I have definitely made a lot of improvement and going over the games has increased my confidence, but what type of prep will increase speed??

Thanks 7-sagers you are the best!!!

-Hannah

I recently took PT 59.

I've been scoring in the low to mid-160s, but this time it dropped to 156. I suppose a 4ish point drop isn't that big of a deal, but let me explain why I'm panicking (and not just because the test is less than 30 days away)

On Sec 2 (LR), I got 6 answers wrong. Not my best, but I suppose it's not terrible either.

However, on Sec 3 (LR), I got 10 answers wrong -- #15 through #25.

Has this happened to anyone, getting this many consecutive answers wrong? If so, what do you think happened here?

I know usually questions get harder by the end of each section, but I didn't perform like this on Section 2. Maybe I was tired especially hitting Section 3 (but usually this doesn't happen to me). Maybe it was just a bad day and it's not indicative of my other PTs. But maybe not. I want to know if any of you have gotten this many consecutive answers wrong? Could you shed some light on what you think caused it and how you improved (both test-taking strategy and reviewing your answers)?

Thanks!

I've just gone through the "Grouping Games with a Chart" lessons, and for each of the four games -- two in the lessons and two in the problem set -- as an experiment I did NOT use a chart but instead used a "standard" grouping diagram that allows members to have multiple memberships. Multiple memberships is said to be the condition which dictates use of a chart. In none of the four did I have any more of a problem answering questions than JY did.

Furthermore, for a couple of the games the final question not only added a rule but removed one of the original ones. For these, JY abandoned his chart and started over with a new one. I didn't do this with my diagram, and am unclear as to why JY started over. In each case it seemed easy enough to see the implications of the rule change to my original diagram. JY's motivation for starting over seemed to be that he was afraid he would miss a required change to his original chart.

My challenge: can someone cite a game for which a chart definitely saves time?

Does anyone else find the games in the earlier PTs (35 and under) to be harder than the newer ones? In the 70s, the first 3 games are always so easy, and then there's just 1 really hard one at the end. But the earlier exams I feel are so much harder. No clue why.

during the timed test i got to the 4th game and froze. any similar games? i kept rereading the paragraph to understand the set up for it. what were your thoughts?

Hi everyone!

I just created my account today and I'm happy to join the 7sage community :) I am a second year university student in Canada and I have had my heart set on law school since grade 9. I've worked for a criminal defence attorney over the summer and I loved what he did (and I did) so much that I've just wanted to get into law school darn badly over these past few years haha! I do alright in school, I believe i'll finish with about a 3.8-3.86 GPA on the 4.0 scale (no higher or lower). So, I feel good about that...However, I wrote the June 2007 LSAT today because I wanted to see if I was any good at it and it went horrible and I know this sounds pretty weak but I'm feeling awful right now. I scored a 137 and it's just a brutal feeling because I want to go to law school so badly and already seeing this huge wall that I will have to somehow climb is super discouraging. Has anyone had any similar experiences? If so, did you end up finding your way to a score of 156+? That's my goal at this point lol

Thanks for taking the time to read this everyone!:)

Hello,

I am considering buying a 7sage prep course; the Ultimate package. I was wondering, for the drills/practice, which Prep tests are used for those drills? I was hoping to keep the more recent prep tests "fresh" for assessment purposes.

Also, I noticed that only PT's 36 and onwards have explanations in this package, what if I need explanations for the earlier prep tests?

Thanks!