Proctors:

Friendly enough, spoke clearly and answered questions clearly.

Facilities:

The Test was downtown Grand Rapids, address clearly marked, easy to find from directions on Western's website.

What kind of room:

They split us by last name into 4 medium sized lecture halls on two different floors. Air conditioned, felt roughly 68 degrees, comfortable the whole time.

How many in the room:

35-40

Desks:

Continuous table with a space skipped between each test taker. More than adequate space for test booklet, answer sheet and gear. Chairs were adjustable and comfortable, more than satisfactory. Clearly visible clocks on either side of the room, Large enough to see hands and numbers easily.

Left-handed accommodation:

Yes

Noise levels:

Nothing from outside the room. I never noticed traffic, construction, train sounds, or anything like that. Just pencil scratching and occasional cough or sniffle.

Parking:

There's a free public parking ramp next door, which I only realized afterward Next building south on Commerce! :( Otherwise there is minimal metered parking on the street.

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

Check-in was at 12:30, I was in my car at about 5:45 So about 5 hours. Took a long time to get everyone check in and start the test, but once we started the proctors didn't waste any time.

Irregularities or mishaps:

NA

Other comments:

Would you take the test here again?

Certainly, planning to come September unless my score is shockingly high, haha

Date[s] of Exam[s]:

June 12, 2017

I just took this past June LSAT, and I'm trying to weigh my options. This might be excessively long, so I apologize in advance. Any input would be greatly appreciated!

This June LSAT really killed me. I started off with the LR experimental (which is arguably harder than usual) and then proceeded to the RC (which, like the LR experimental, is considered to be of elevated difficulty--coupled with the fact that RC is my worst section). By that time, my spirits were already crushed and I was feeling very uncertain about my performance. The only section I nailed was LG, which the general consensus is that it was ridiculously easy.

For the past several PTs that I've taken, I have been able to accurately predict my performance. The questions I mark for BR are the ones that I miss. On this test, however, I felt as though I was doubting every other question and had to blindly fill in the last 3-4 questions for each section (except LG) because of poor timing. I've been PTing in the mid 160's thus far.

I also wrote the Feb LSAT and scored a 162. In contrast to this exam, I was only hitting 158's during that prep. I felt pretty bad about that exam too, but it some how turned out significantly better than what was projected from my PTs. Whilst I'd like to hope that the same thing will happen for the June test, the fear of scoring the same (or worse) is terrifying to me. I'll be applying with a 3.92 GPA and am focusing my efforts on the lower T14 schools (Georgetown, Cornell, Northwestern, etc.).

In short, I'm trying to figure out what I should do. Either:

-Cancel my score and stick with my 162

-Cancel my score and try again in September (though I honestly don't know if I have the mental stamina to retake again)

-Keep my score with the hopes of doing better

And if I do keep my second score and it happens to be worse/ the same, how negatively does that impact my application to low T14 schools? Would a 3rd exam make up for it?

Thanks!

I have been with 7sage for about 2 1/2 weeks now and am 34 hours through the curriculum. That being said, is there a good time to start applying the 7sage principles to prep tests? I don't want to take prep tests and waste them since I have not conquered all of the material, but at the same time, I want to be applying what I learn.

Any advice would be appreciated!

Thank you :)

Hi all!

So I need some clarifications...! Please help!

Contrapositive for "some" doesn't exist because it's reversible.

A (-s-) /B (Some A are not B) = /B (-s-)A (Some not B are A)

Right?

Then why do we have contrapositive for "if and only if" even though it's reversible? A (-) B = /A (-) /B

I know that A (-) B = A -> B + B -> A, so the contrapositive has to be /B -> /A + /A -> /B.

So my questions are as follows:

(1) Since the reasoning proves that contrapositive exists, does that mean that "Contrapositive for "some" doesn't exist because it's reversible" is wrong?

(2) When I am taking the contrapositive A (-) B (= A -> B AND B -> A), I say /A (-) /B because /B -> /A AND /A -> /B. In this case, why don't I change And to Or? I know I did the contrapositive, but I am starting to get confused...!

Thank you so much in advance!!!

Something that kept me up last night...my desk for the LSAT on monday was old and had a lot of divots in it and when I was filling out my answer sheet, my pencil slightly broke through the paper on two questions. It was just a little bit-- it wasn't like I completely messed up the entire bubble-- and I made sure to really darken the surrounding area. But I woke up last night worried that a) maybe the scantron wouldn't register those questions and b) I didn't make a mental note about which questions they were so I can't even email/call LSAC to let them know. Does anybody know how scantron grading works and whether this is actually a big deal vs. me being paranoid...

Hi all,

I've noticed the new LSAT's almost always contain a legal passage (as far as I can see; I haven't done all the PT's in the 70's). Any advice for legal publications that are close to the style of the LSAT for reading in my spare time?

For example, I know Scientific American is the "gold standard" for practicing the type of reading that will come up in the RC science passages. What should I read as a supplement to help with the legal passages?

Hey all,

Wondering if you might have some opinions about this: I'm ideally looking to apply to schools in October, right after taking the September exam, and need to give my recommenders enough time to write their letters, which means asking them no later than, I'd say, mid-July. I'm fairly confident that I can raise my score to my goal number by September, but also don't want to risk asking for letters now and realize in August that I want more time to study. How would you say I handle this? One of my three recommenders offered to provide a recommendation first, so that's out of the way, but the other two are still up in the air.

Thanks!

Similar to many of you, I suffer from bad test anxiety. If I don't get in the zone within the first 5 questions, I panic for the whole test, effectively snowballing. Really bad too. It's causing 10-15 point swings lately. When I'm chill, I can score 170+ pretty consistently. Otherwise, it's the Wild West.

I freeze up, don't even go through my strategies, and I just feel like this is my first test ever. Everything I've done goes out the window. I misread rules. I forget diagrams. Hell I can't even answer a main conclusion question. I don't understand it. I feel like I can provide an in depth explanation to a vast majority of questions and games. But sometimes, I just feel like I don't know anything. It affects me most on games too. Perhaps because I'm used to finishing every game in less than 6 or 7 minutes. So when I don't, I panic and just move on. This happened during my September test and I scored 9 points below my average.

I've tried meditation, I work out 3x a week, and feel like my balance is pretty good with friends and family. But none of that seems to be helping much. All of this so weird to me. I'm not an anxious person whatsoever.

I was hoping for any guidance. I know this is different from most posts but at the same time, I feel that mental state is something that is sometimes over looked. But again, any help would be greatly appreciated.

Hi everyone, as a person who doesn't speak English as a mother tongue, I would like to ask one very basic question of how to interpret certain sentence(I think it is a grammar question..)

"The colonials and the English had differing interpretations of the language and institutional structures that they shared"

In this case, it seems to me that it could be interpreted in two different ways

Is the only solution to look at the context to understand in right manner? or is there a rule to understand this kind of sentence structure?

Thanks in advance!

Sat for the exam yesterday. It went pretty well, but you never know with these things. Do people generally register for the September exam and then just withdraw if they get the score they were aiming for? Will the testing centers probably fill up by the time we get our scores back? If I sign up now and then withdraw, do I get a refund / will it show up on my LSAC report?

Thanks!

Hey, guys! I'm starting to work on my app process and I wondering if I should or how to write a DS? I was recently diagnosed with a cognitive disability. I haven't been in school since 07 so I haven't really had to deal with it in a learning setting but def at work and everyday situations. I also didn't have the issue until after I completed undergrad. Can or how can I write a DS statement if I haven't had to deal with the issue in a learning setting? Or, am I not looking at it the right way? Also, do you think that DS around learning disabilities hint that the writer may have received accommodations? I know we don't really know, but do you think this would help or hurt? Any suggestions are welcomed! TIA

Hi all!

I'm about 40% completed with the core curriculum, and am already getting the hang of the easiest questions sets... should I start doing some harder questions from the question bank now or completely finish the CC first before going back and reviewing harder questions after I'm done?

I took the LSAT yesterday at the University of Delaware. They had us sit in an auditorium, and the only desk space we had were those small side desks that you often find at the side of auditorium seats. There was not enough space to even lay out the entire test booklet, let alone the the answer sheet. You would think that LSAC would ensure that testing centers are adequate for test takers. These testing conditions were particularly difficult for the LG section, which requires a lot of writing in the test book, and looking back to another page, where the main diagram is.

Hey everyone!

I just got through the CC and am moving on to fool proofing the games. I am hoping to foolproof about 3-4 games per day depending on difficulty using the @pacifico method. As of right now, I am sorting the LG's into a binder and was wondering how you ended up sorting it. I'm conflicted on whether or not to sort them chronologically and foolproof them in that order; or if I should sort them by category/difficulty in order to cement in pattern recognition.

What do you guys think?

Hey, guys! I'm giving it a go in September and I was wondering if anyone noticed any changes in any of the sections yesterday? Anyone feel there were any subtle or blatant changes in anything? From what I'm reading there were no crazy games this time. Maybe they'll lay off on the foolishness for a while?? I read that RC was insane. Any commentary there? How were the passages different? Was it just the subject matter making it hard to stick to reading for structure? Any commentary is welcomed. Good luck, guys! Now is the time to sit back with some frozen margaritas and chillax!

Did this RC section seem exceptionally hard to anyone else besides me?

I have a new Preptest 79 that I bought on Amazon and didn't use that someone who needs it can have for free. I can mail it to you if you message me your address. I'll post an update once it's taken.

Hey guys,

Do you go back to review your wrong questions, such as one week later after the blinde review? or do you review them before the real LSAT test?

Press Release:

http://www.lsac.org/aboutlsac/pressreleases/lsac-expands-lsat-schedule

Actual Dates:

http://www.lsac.org/docs/default-source/jd-docs/testdateweb.pdf

Hi everyone! I wrote the LSAT today but am almost 100% positive I'm going to rewrite. I found 7Sage quite late in my prep (heartbreaking as this is such an amazing resource) and I definitely want to follow one of schedules here, but does anyone know what to pursue for the purpose of retaking?

Thanks!

For those of you who have taken the test,

does the real bubble sheet look exactly like the ones at the end of the preptest booklet with one page?

Or is it like a 10 page booklet with instructions, combined with writing sample section, etc.

Hello everyone,

I am a complete novice to this journey. I recently started visiting law schools and was told a strong LSAT can curb my low undergrad GPA. (I graduated in 2013, my professional experience will be important in my application)

Can someone explain some of the words, abbreviations or acronyms I see related to taking practice tests.

What is a "blind review"? Are there other types of reviews you can do?

I have scheduled my self for my diagnostic test June 3 , any tips? Did you use an app to time yourself during the test? Is it best I I take the test at home? Or in a library to mimic test conditions?

Thank you all in advance!

Hi everyone,

I have crippling allergies. My sinuses feel so heavy that I can hardly keep my head up. It even affects my vision. To make matters worse, I just ran out of my medication and have to wait until tomorrow to get it refilled. Obviously, doing trickier games when in this condition is probably not the best idea (I tried and failed miserably). You miss things that normally you would get, etc.

Is the move here just to wait until I have my meds? I'm itching to do more games and get even quicker with LR as I'm reading closer and selecting the correct answer with more ease each day.

It's frustrating that we're people and apparently aren't invincible.

I'm planning on writing my LSAT in February 2018. I have access to the Ultimate+ 7sage course until November 2018.

Once the June, September and December 2017 LSATs are released, will I have 7sage access to them? Specifically, will I be able to input my raw and BR scores in analytics (with video answers*) like the other practice tests, or is there an additional charge to do so?

*I understand that this will take time, and that's totally okay, I just want to know if I'll have access to them eventually (without paying extra).

I'm pretty sure law schools take the highest score out of the LSAT's taken, but would anyone know if this is true or how to find out? Does it depend on the school?