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The title pretty much says it all. I work a 8:30am -5pm job Monday - Friday with an hour commute on each end. On the weekends my time is spent taking care of all the chores I was too tired to get to during the week (laundry, cleaning, animals etc.). I squeeze 7sage in during my hour lunch at work every day and on the weekends I am averaging roughly 3 hours a day. This leaves me at around 11 hours of LSAT a week. I'm simply not okay with that. I would like to study after work but I am mentally exhausted.

I know I am not alone. I know others are just as busy, if not more busy, than I am. So I'm looking for advice on how I can get more study time in with the LSAT. I want to know what people do to motivate themselves after a long day at school or work. How can I ensure that I am giving myself enough time to absorb what is required of me. Everyone says in order to improve on the LSAT you have to put in the time. I really want to, but life circumstances seem to really make that difficult. So, before it is to late, what can I do to change. I am shooting for the September LSAT.

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Apologies for the annoying question, but does anyone know if the LSAC still maintains their 6 months policy on the recency of the photo? I ask because on the LSAC photo guidelines site it only says recent and recognizable, and I have a photo I uploaded back in October (ostensibly for the December 2016 LSAT but now planning to take in June 2017). I was not even aware of a 6 month cutoff until seeing it mentioned on a forum this morning. Am I missing something / will there be any issue taking the test or receiving my scores because my photo was uploaded the LSAC site more than 6 months ago?

Thanks so much!

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Last comment tuesday, may 09 2017

Pushing back PTs

Hi all! Thought I’d share something I found helpful/necessary during my studying. I started the core curriculum during the last week of January as I planned to take the September test. According to my original study schedule, I was supposed to start PTing around April 1st. From the end of January to April 1st, I had not completed the foolproof method for Logic Games and I felt that I should not (with some advice from @"Alex Divine" on another post) start PTing until I had done so. Naturally, I was apprehensive to push back the PTs because I wanted to finish all of them before the September test, however, by doing all the Logic Games, I feel like I am infinitely more prepared to start PTing than I was before. The fool proof method works wonders and I highly recommend doing all Logic Games before PTing. Also, rushing through to get every PT done instead of doing comprehensive BR and really learning from the mistakes is just a waste of time. I originally tried a different study schedule from another prep company that had you doing four PTs a week which is ridiculous! If you don’t learn anything from a PT and apply it to the next, then why do it at all. Hope this helps anyone who was or will be in the same situation I was in!

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Last comment tuesday, may 09 2017

Endurance tactic.

would it be a good strategy to do back to back practice tests to help build my endurance? I wouldn't do this tactic for PT 36 and up because those are too valuable and I want those to be as realistic as possible. But say I did PR 6 and 7 just back to back in one sitting? While that would be mentally draining I think it would help my mental endurance overall. Thoughts? (I would

Do BR afterwards on PT6 and 7 of course)

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Last comment tuesday, may 09 2017

Burn Out?

Hi all I was wondering if anyone else had this experience. I just finished the PT's from PT's 42-51 (the red book) and I was averaging about 18-20 on LR. I just started PT's 62-71 (Purple Book) and I have done pretty terrible on the first four LR sections. Is there a huge increase in difficulty between the two books? Or am I just getting a bit burnt out? Or could it be something completely different? Not really sure what to make out of the situation. I was really confident before starting this book, but I am feeling really un sure of my skills now.

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Last comment tuesday, may 09 2017

Post-curriculum increase?

How have your scores improved from your first post-curriculum PT (not diagnostic)? i.e. how much have you benefited from the process of taking PT's and BR?

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Really - how do you "know"? I feel as though I will never be ready.

If anyone else has experienced anything even remotely similar to me, some advice would be very welcome. For context, here's my test-postponement/study history: (Also, if you just want to skim to the main questions, go down to the last paragraph and ignore most of this.)

I started studying for the December LSAT last October. I was teaching Comp 1 at a local university, taking a full load of graduate level courses, and studying for the LSAT roughly 30 hours a week. I figured out pretty quickly given my chaotic/busy schedule I would need a LOT longer than just Oct-Dec to take the LSAT. So I postponed until February. I quit my job at the university, took a leave of absence from the grad school, and began working part time at a library. I promised myself if by 4 weeks before the February LSAT I wasn't scoring a 155+, I would postpone until June. The one month mark came along and I scored a 154. So guess what? I postponed.

Now as June approaches, I am just not sure if I am "ready." I know I have a month to pull up my scores, but my diagnostics are not consistently in a place I'm willing to accept. About five weeks ago I climbed up to a 163 (my goal being a 167), but then my scores consistently fell. First the score went down to a 162 (no big deal, right?), but then over the course of 5 weeks my scores fell until I was barely above my diagnostic score from last fall. After that lowest diagnostic two weeks ago, I was so discouraged and disheartened I couldn't even look at my desk strewn with LSAT prep materials; it was too depressing. I took off an entire week, binged on Netflix, at ice cream, cried as much as I needed to, and otherwise avoided the LSAT. After my week off, I studied and drilled, and then finally took at practice test yesterday (Sunday). I scored a 156 on that exam, (raw score 72, missing 28 wrong), and a 158 on the Blind Review.

Maybe I should be happy with the score going up (even if it's not as high as it once was), but here's the thing: the logic games skewed my score. In the June 2007 exam, I have previously drilled on all the logic games in all the prep material I've covered over the past months. I did really well on it, but I don't think it's an accurate indicator of how I would actually do on exam day. On the LR section, I only did better than the previous test by 2 questions. That's TWO questions more I got right than the score that sent me into a week of LSAT induced depression. Even though my score rose, I don't think it's a "real" indicator, and that freaks me out a little. I know I can postpone until September, but the idea of putting off the LSAT yet again (and missing the noon test time) fills me with dread.

I'm trying to relax, stay healthy, exercise, stay positive, etc., but I also know I shouldn't take the LSAT unless I'm ready. But, will I ever FEEL ready? How many practice tests should be in/above my ideal LSAT score range before I decide to bite the bullet and take the real thing? I've read I should wait until 10 practice tests are at/above my score range, but I know that won't happen between now and June 12th. But I've also read that lots of people pull up their scores a lot in the last month (by 10 points, even) so not to give up hope until like a week out from test day.

Someone please give me some sagely advice. I need it, dangit.

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Last comment monday, may 08 2017

Question for Admin

Hi, I was wondering if I upgrade from starter to premium, will I only have 1 month of access? It says +1 month extension so I was confused. I would appreciate if someone could clarify this for me.

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Last comment monday, may 08 2017

Inputing scores.

Whenever i input my practice LSAT scores after doing BR... do i plug in my blind review answers even if i didn't change my original answer? Or do i only input BR answers if my answers change? I only ask because its a pain to put in the BR answers for every answer when its not necessary. Thanks!

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Hey folks, is anyone here who is taking the LSAT with English as their second language interested in learning together? I've been hearing more inquiries about study strategies for people who encounter a significant language barrier with the test. Let's use this thread for ESL students to connect and see how much interest there is, in addition to sharing helpful strategies with each other.

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Hello Everyone!!!

In the journey of studying for the LSAT I have become a little exhausted! I'm trying to figure out what I can do to muster up energy to make it through the next 5 weeks before I sit for the June LSAT. If any of you have similar stories would you be so kind to tell me what you do to snap yourself back into the groove of things?!?!

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Last comment thursday, may 04 2017

Thank you 7Sage!

I believe I have almost completed my cycle for this year. And I am glad that I have secured a school that will give me a very good opportunity to start my career as a transaction lawyer.

I was able to boost my lsat score from 149 (cold diagnostic : PT no. 69) to 170+ (2016 official score).

Unlike some crappy online forums, 7sage discussion forum has been precious resource for me.

I firmly believe that this test is learnable, even for those who are not perfect with the language. (For the record, English is my second language and I started learning English at the age of 10). I guess the hardest part is not letting go of such belief.

These are the resources I found especially helpful

  • LSAT Trainer
  • 7sage games explanation + forum Q&A
  • Manhattan forum Q&A
  • INTENSE preparation and drilling ( I went over the whole PTs about 2.5~3 times, all in 5 timed sections)
  • There are some talented people who are able to finish preparation within short span of time. I was blessed to have them as my friends.

    Yet I have to say I was not one of them and it took me more than a year to reach the point I wanted.

    For those who are on the struggle bus, say June LSAT or whatever,

    I know how much it sucks (I am a 3rd time LSAT taker) and I hope that you hold onto the belief that you are going to get through it.

    And if there is any question let me know! Thank you!

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    Last comment wednesday, may 03 2017

    Crazy to retake?

    Hi guys,

    I scored a 174 on the June test (woo!) but was hoping to score in the upper 170s where I was PTing (average for last five PTs was 177). I realize that a 174 is a great score, but I can't help thinking I can do better. I screwed up on the experimental logic games (misread a direction in one of the games) and so was distracted and anxious for the second half of the test. That said, none of my scores on the individual sections were outside the range that I normally miss. I just hit the top of the missed questions range for everything except logic games. Should I retake? I am aiming for HYS ideally (though I know it's a bit of a crapshoot). I have a 4.03 GPA and good softs (good WE, fulbright scholar). Retake or let it ride?

    Thanks in advance for your advice!

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    Hi guys,

    I am confused with a logic inference.

    According to a book, if A, then not B, can be notated like A-->/B or A(-|-)B. However, in 7sage, it is maybe notated like A(---)/B.

    Here's the question.

  • E(-|-)F--> G -->H (the original one)
  • According to the question key, the inference is,

    G(--s--)/E

    F-->H

    H(--s--)/E

    But, if we use E-->/F to replace the part of E(-|-)F (because according to the very beginning of the post,A-->/B AND A(-|-)B are actually the same thing ), we get,

  • E-->/F--> G -->H (the replaced first )
  • then the inference are,

    E-->G-->H (this is very difference with the original above, which is not inference can be made like this)

    E-->H (Which according to the original above, there is not such inference can be made like this)

    /F-->H (which is different from the above original inference which is F-->H)

    However, if we replace the original part of E(-|-)F with E(---)/F, interestingly, the inference different with above two.

    Here we have:

    E(---)/F--> G -->H

    and the inference we have are

    except we can make the exactly same inference with the 2 ones, we also can infer that,

    G(--s--)/F

    G(--s--)E

    E(--s--)H

    these inferences are totally different with the original ones.

    the trick thing is according to the book, E(-|-)F is the same with E-->/F, and according to 7sage, actually E(-|-)F is E(---)/F, which leading to the hypothesis that if we replace the E(-|-)F to whatever these two different versions, the inferences made should be the same. Who can please clarify me?

    Thank you!

    Cynthia

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    I noticed that the video interface has changed recently, and after the change I've been having serious lagging issues. This lagging problem especially prevalent when I put the video speed above the regular 1.0x. The video would run for ten seconds, lag for 3 seconds, run for another few seconds, then lag again....

    Am I the only one who is having this problem?

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    Hi all --

    I heard that the LG Bundle and LR drills are available in the syllabus, right before the PTs. However, I don't see these in my syllabus. Are these problem sets available only to Ultimate+ students?

    Also, if I upgrade from Ultimate to Ultimate+ now, will that increase the number of hours in my Core Curriculum? I've already started on Ultimate and planned a study schedule based on the number of hours of video lessons in the course.

    Thanks!

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    I was a longtime user of 7sage about a year ago and it helped me tremendously. While I was on here, a user donated some materials to me for free and I promised to pay it forward. So here's to spreading some of that good LSAT lovin'

    PM me so I can get your address for shipping. Some of these books are really heavy so all I ask is a fee for shipping. Venmo anyone?

    In no particular order:

  • The LSAT Trainer 2015 by Mike Kim
  • Powerscore LSAT Logic Games Bible 2015 Edition by David M. Killoran
  • The Princeton Review LSAT Diagnostic Exams
  • The Princeton Review LSAT 201: Master the Approach
  • The Princeton Review LSAT 301: Pacing and Refining
  • The Princeton Review LSAT 401: Advanced Skills
  • 10 Actual Official LSAT Preptests Volume V: Prep Tests 62-71
  • 10 More Actual Official LSAT Preptests: 19-28
  • 10 New Actual, Official LSAT Preptests with Comparative Reading: 52-61
  • 2 Logic Games binders with Games 1-35 (approximately) : Each game is in a transparent sheet with an answer key on the back. The binder is made so that you can work the game on the front in dry erase marker and check your work on the back
  • Plastic LSAT day bag with pencils, pencil sharpener and Casio watch.
  • Best of Luck!

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    I wrote my first diagnostic today and surprised myself with a 154. Definitely not the score I want on test day, but happy to start in the 60th percentile. I've signed up for the powerscore two month in-person class, and im currently working through the 7sage curriculum. Is it overly ambitious to want to write the test in June? And is there any benefit to writing in June vs September ?

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