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Last comment monday, jan 09 2017

Law School Transfer

Hopefully it doesnt come to this and I get into the law school I want or one that I am satisfied with, but just out of curiosity too, what is the law school transfer process like? Do you apply with LSAT scores as well? New recommendations or the same old one will work? And what factor is considered the highest?

I recently read an article that said that the most transfer students were those going into Harvard Law School interestingly enough. Not saying I wanna go there but there might be better chances when transferring.

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Hello all ,

i was just thinking , given the amount of time that has elapsed , and the fact that i dont remember which questions i circled, wouldn't it be better to re do the December LSAT as a timed exercise by splitting into its components. that way it would serve as practice for all three sections and at that point i could BR etc.

or i could simply just take all the time i need to answer the sections again and see if a second look improves my understanding .

looking for advice

thanks

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My goal is to score 160, I scored just a few points shy of that in December but during practice tests before then I was scoring 160 back to back on practice test with my highest score being 161. I am retaking in February with that goal score in mind again. Any tips/study plans from now until Feb,4th? Do I have to begin averaging 165 on practice test to meet this score?

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I was going to take the Feb 2017 test but after a frustrating attempt where I scored 158 earlier this week, I do not think I would be ready in time for the February test (since I want to be scoring within the mid 160s). This would have been my fourth time testing and I have been studying on and off for the LSAT since October 2013 while doing grad school and working. My undergraduate GPA is 3.72 and I just received my MA in Gender Studies in May 2016. Given that the best score I have on file is a 158 and that this is probably the best I can do, should I apply for this cycle or study for another 5 months for the June test? Also, if I do opt to take the June test instead of the February test, do people recommend working part time while studying, or studying full time?

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Short version: Went from a 149 diagnostic to a 157 on the September 2016 LSAT, then 167 on the December 2016 test in 11 months all thanks to 7Sage.

Long version: I'll try to not make this a novel, but I've read every increase story on here and found them all uniquely helpful and motivating so I thought I'd give it a shot!

Before I found 7sage, I took an Oxford Seminars classroom course and found the material quite overwhelming. I worked on some PTs and never saw more than a point increase. Eventually I just gave up on applying to law and cancelled my LSAT registration for December 2014.

I found 7sage last February after doing some research for a different course to try, since I was still so interested in going to law school. This course was my last chance to learn how to beat the LSAT, and I wish I'd found it earlier! I completed the core curriculum and took 16 four section PTs before taking the September test with a 165 PT average on my last 5 tests. Getting my score was brutal, underperformed by 8 points and got a 157. After some reflection I realized test day got to me and that there was more I could do to prepare.

In the two months before taking again in December, I took 13 more PTs and increased my pace from one a week to two a week. I sat the test with a 167 last 5 test average and ended up with a hard-earned 167 as my result.

The three things I did that I felt helped me improve the most were:

1. Taking 5 section PTs. I printed out the September test and redid it as 4 sections and scored 167, so I knew I had a stamina problem. I read somewhere that taking 4 sections was just as good, but that didn't hold true for me. I'd recommend taking 5 sections only as soon as possible, because you don't want to find out on test day that you're one of the people that need it like I did!

2. Learning to plug away at all LG sections. I would often mentally give up halfway through the section if the last two games didn't "click". On the September test I panicked so badly that I left 10 questions blank and scored a dismal 8/23. I was able to gain 10 points in December for an 18/23 by practicing filling in all the bubbles on games I was struggling with, then picking the easiest questions that could be answered with the rules alone or at least eliminate obvious wrong answer choices. The last two games made no sense to me but by elimination and brute forcing I was able to score the points I needed and make some late inferences.

3. Being more strict with dropping the pencil on time. I made sure all answers were at least guessed around the 32 minute mark and working on the ones I thought I had the best chance at getting. This worked well for me on LR especially.

Thoughts on future tests:

I'm out of the game thankfully, but I'd recommend that test takers do all the early logic games (PT 1-10 have some weird ones) to get an edge on the more unusual games that have been appearing. I'd also say that doing and BRing more PTs than I did would probably help as well, since I only did 29 in total.

Finally, thank you to JY and everyone who posts on here!! Lots of people read but don't post like me (until now) and really benefit from all the advice posted. Best of luck to those still on their journey!

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Hey All,

I need some advice regarding a sort of inconvenient situation. I work 9:30-5:30 everyday in Manhattan, but I live on the outskirts of Manhattan, which means I am spending an hour and a half on the train each way every day.

That's about 3 hours a day on the train. Yes. I know.

I spend a majority of that time reviewing LSAT materials, in addition to whatever I can get in at work during my lunch break. But I never feel like I've gotten enough review in (if it's even possible to feel that way...). Mostly because the train during rush hour is not the most conducive environment for intensive LSAT review. I do what I can, but studying for hour increments, spread throughout the day does not exactly give me enough time to hit my optimal level of engagement with the material. So I clearly need to figure something out...

(Weekends are also mainly dedicated to review, as well as certain week nights. More on this below)

Now to the exercise part. I am sitting for 8 hours a day at work and another 3 hours on the train. I am an decently active person, so physical exercise is important to me. My hobby is rock climbing, so I do a lot of indoor rock climbing to keep my body engaged. Its mentally exciting as well as physically challenging, so I see it as a psychological release as well. I do some occasional yoga as well.

Okay so now back to the timing issue... considering I get home around 7:30pm, going to work out basically takes up the rest of my night. I'll end up getting home at 9:30pm and then...well...there's that early AM train I have to catch so I have to get to bed shortly after.

I'm willing to give up rock climbing during my LSAT prep if it's going to benefit me (I will cry every step of the way...but I will do it). My question is...will it? Physical exercise seems to be a common thread among top scorers and that's where I am aiming. I also don't climb everyday- I usually dedicate 2 weeknights to climbing and then a couple hours on Saturdays. It sort of comes down to what will benefit me more and I'm honestly not sure. I've considered other forms of "quicker" exercise like taking up running, but the idea of that makes me cringe (clearly not a runner...) and I don't see how that would give me significantly more time to study. Plus there's the whole "mental release" benefit to doing something I actually enjoy...

I should also follow up with the fact that the time I do put into study has been immensely productive. My understanding of the material has grown significantly. My contention is more because I know that I have the capacity to be learning more than I currently am (because of my limited time), so that is frustrating. All that to say, I could technically just keep doing what I'm doing and probably hit my goal score eventually...but I know I can hit it a lot quicker if I didn't have so many time constraints.

So I guess I'm just asking for cost benefit analyses. How important is physical exercise in your prep and do you foresee any catastrophic consequences if I decide to fully embrace the sedentary life? Do you think it's likely that the extra time will benefit me more than exercise?

Thanks in advance :)

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Can I rip off pieces of the page? I don't mean stuff with text on it, just blank margins.

I would like to cover the bubbles from previously-completed sections while working, to minimize the probability of accidentally mis-bubbling.

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Last comment monday, jan 09 2017

Degree date

Hi,

Quick question...

I'm purchasing and creating CAS now, and I'm wondering, if I finished my graduate courses on December and attended graduation ceremony on the following May,

which date should I put, May or December?

Surprised to see we cannot edit info after we confirm it, so I'm kind of cautious...

Thank you!

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Last comment monday, jan 09 2017

Yale 250

I just wrote my Yale 250 in 3rd person. Is that weird? It's an argument about the origin of jazz music.

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I hope I can explain this

1)I fully understand how to convert any sentence into Sufficient and Necessary conditions

2)Where I am having problems is identifying whether the sentence is supplying sufficient conditions for something or if it is supplying necessary conditions for something

3)What I am hoping to understand is the actual grammar breakdown for why it is the way it is

4)below are some examples from a book. what makes a sentence a "sufficient sentence" and what makes a sentence a "necessary sentence"... is it based on "what the main subject of the sentence is" is it based on the predicate verb? what is the actual fundamental grammar rules that dictate this. Yes i know if you say it out loud you would figure it out. but I am trying to understand from a pure grammatical perspective. Thankyou

You don’t deserve praise for something unless you did it deliberately

Deserve Praise for something --> you did something deliberately

Necessary condition

Doing something deliberately is a necessary condition for deserving praise for something

If you do something deliberately then you deserve praise for it

Do something deliberately ->you deserve praise for it

It would be saying that doing something deliberately is a sufficient condition for deserving praise for it

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I just upgraded from Starter to Ultimate+ and I'm really close to the end of the curriculum. Now a bunch of additional problem sets have appeared (Necessary Assumption has like 20!). I'm curious if those of you who have either upgraded partway through or always had Ultimate+ do all of the problem sets, or are you saving some for review once you start PTing?

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For those who have a math or econ or business background.

We learned that of any financial or math model, there are 2 kinds of variables-Endogenous and Exdogenous. And from macro-econ or Linear Algebra, the change of an endogenous variable does not change the model it self, as such, moving from X to X' is only a result of Y to Y'. And it does not move us to Z to Z', which needs the introduction of an exdogenous variable into the equation.

The exact same method is applied here.

By the question steam, you are able to formulate a principle, or a math equation, and the math equation only applies in this particular set of population-the population of dangerous activity.

Furthermore, if you think of dangerous activity be on your x axis and tax as on the y axis, the fact that dangerous activity does not result in tax on those activity can be thought as a correlation set where you can denote a +1 or - 1direction.

As such, by the question steam, "by the same token", we plug in variables, as we know that these are endogenous and push out a Y'.

Answer choice D perfectly describes the result of MBT from this answer choice while answer choice B does the opposite.

Answer choice A/E describes 2 phonomena. Answer choice E describes "food and shelter", which are variables that cannot be accounted for. And answer choice A "nonessential sports equipment and recreational gear" describes another market or population set. As you know, we cannot slap an equity valuation model onto an alternative asset valuation model, they are simply different kind of assets.

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Last comment saturday, jan 07 2017

Retake?

I took the December exam and scored within my PT range, although on the lower side of it (worst LG performance in months).

I am committed to applying this cycle and my LSAT score is at the median or 1-2 points below most schools I am applying to.

Is it worth it to sit for the February exam for what would realistically be a 0-3 point improvement,?

My GPA is at or above the median for all schools that I am applying to. Any thoughts appreciated! And congrats to all who took the test!

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I decided to apply to law school late last summer, so I had to learn the LSAT on a short schedule from early August - December 4th.

However, I now know that I did not study enough to hit my target score (172 or above). Therefore, I will be retaking in June and shifting my applications to the next cycle.

Final Score: 169 (I took in Asia.. no details other than my raw score are available at this point)

Problems:

- Adjusting for vacations, studied for about 14 weeks total

- Did not address fundamental weakness in Logic Games

- Failed to fall asleep before test day, resulting in 3 hours of sleep the night before the test

- On test day, I felt ill from nerves and lack of sleep

- Bombed LG and was forced to blindly guess on at least 6 questions

Upside:

- Did not give up during the test

- Resisted urges to cancel score

- Probably performed very well on LR and RC

- I know to take a sleep aid the next "night before"

Overall, this is the score I deserved. When I walked out of December, I was 90% sure I wanted to cancel, but now I'm glad I have a real score on my record. I can do a post-mortem and figure out how I reacted to real test conditions.

Thanks to everyone at 7sage for supporting me during the early stages of my (now ongoing) studying :)

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Hey guys, I'm just wondering where i indicate that i plan to take the FEB LSAT on my applications. I took the DEC LSAT and got a score I'm fairly happy with. However, i think that i can do better since i had 0 sleep the night before so I'm planning on taking it again in FEB but i want to send in my apps this weekend. Some schools I'm applying to give me the option to indicate whether or not I'm taking the FEB LSAT but others don't so I'm wondering where I can indicate this on my apps? thanks guys

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Hello!

It was about a month ago that I first broke into the 170s on practice tests (sadly, just after taking my December test on which I only managed a 165) where something finally clicked and I started going from -9s to -2s and -3s on LG. It seems like a few hard logic games can really trip me up and bring my score back down, so I'm drilling as many of them as possible until the February test so that they feel as natural as breathing, hopefully.

In the mean time, though, I still miss between 2 and 4 on each logical reasoning section, sometimes losing as many as 8 combined between them! I'd like to figure out how to move forward, but I don't think I'm missing any particular concept. Parallel reasoning is a pain to do, but the questions I seem to miss seem to only fall into one of two categories: 1. I read an easy question incorrectly and missed a point or 2. It's the sort of question where I go back and STILL can't get the right answer. I can always sort of SEE why the correct answer is correct, but I don't usually take away any general principle from the wrong answer other than maybe that a particular word was too strong or something, or some assumption I didn't pick up on.

Can anyone recommend a way to move forward and use this review time wisely? I worry that I can review and review on logical reasoning and never learn the new things I would need to get that 175+ score that I'm hoping might still be possible? Maybe?

(side note: no worries on RC, I only ever missed one or two in that section, even in diagnostics. I'm mostly focused on drilling the heck out of LG and polishing my LR abilities.)

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I think some of us could use some inspiration ;)

This was my first time taking the LSAT and I scored a 160. It's not what I hoped, but I know I wasn't ready. I missed 26 questions but twelve of them were LG. So, if this was your second or third time, I'd love to hear how you improved! Thankfully, I had already planned on sitting out this cycle. I don't plan on retaking until my average is at or above a 171. So please, if you improved, let me know - and tell me how you did it!

XOXO

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I'm wondering if anybody else is having issues with their "quick view" feature from the question bank not loading? I use this feature a lot for drilling Logic Games.

Mine had been working all the way up until yesterday and I'm trying to fix this issue ASAP, if anybody can help I'd greatly appreciate it! @"Dillon A. Wright"

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Last comment friday, jan 06 2017

Thank you 7sage!

I have appreciated this community very much. I am grateful for the massive score increase 7sage made possible for me. I feel somewhat disappointed because I scored well below my PT average but I still got a good score and I would not have made nearly the strides I made without @"J.Y. Ping" , @"Dillon A. Wright" and the rest of the gang. I hope I will end up at the same law school as some of you and that we will have a great time being miserable together as 1Ls.

To all of you who are still preparing: Be courageous to take on the tough challenge. It will take you through many lows. Don't stop moving forward. The skills you cultivate will be with you long after the LSAT is gone.

May God bless you greatly,

Jeremy Claridge

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