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I just took PT 50 and I felt like I did not even know how to complete the exam. I have familiarized myself with the test since December, but I felt like the questions were completely different than those in the 30s and 40s. I ended up circling 75% of the LR questions. Also, I could not complete 1-10 in ten minutes. Probably 4 out of the first 10 were extremely difficult. The LG was easy, but the LR was brutal. Has anyone else had this experience? Is this test an anomaly? Is this test the beginning of the drastic changes and turns that the LSAT takes?

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Hey 7Sagers,

Someone sent in a question I thought you could help with! Here it is:

I'm a 7Sager and have been loving it so far. I just have a law school related question and I didn't know where to post it on the website, hence this email. I'm an undergrad and I will be graduating in the summer (August) of 2016. My plan was to apply and start law school that fall of 2016. I will be taking the LSAT in October this year and will start applying to law schools soon after. I just started realizing that law schools may not accept my application since I will not have graduated with my Bachelor's when I turn in my application. I HAVE TO go to law school fall of 2016, otherwise I will have to wait until the following year which I cannot afford. Is it true that law schools may not accept me if I graduate next August? I am losing my mind! Please help!

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I've seen lots of debate over whether or not some statements have the ability to strengthen or weaken arguments. The general consensus seems to be that they cannot strengthen or weaken, however, I came across prep test 29, section 1, question 16 on Proto-Indo-European languages where the correct answer to this weakening question was answer choice B, which was a some statement. I'm not sure if we can post questions in their entirety so I'll just say what the answer choice states and hope anyone with this full question and some good insight can reply "Some languages lack words for prominent elements of the environments of their speakers." My analysis is that while this may be true why does it have to apply to the group referred to in the stimulus? It could just as easily not apply to the group referred to in the stimulus, in which case it would not weaken the argument. Why should I have to make the assumption that the answer choice applies to the group referred to in the stimulus? If anyone can clarify for me it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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I don't know if it is just my copy of the PT but on PT70 and PT72 the logic games are printed so that the rules are all on the front and you have to flip over to the back page to answer the majority of the questions so you are constantly flipping back and forth to look at the rules/diagram. Is there any chance the actual test be this way or is this just my PT? Thanks!

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Since everyone is a bit confused, I'm making this thread. (I've copy/pasted this on threads that it's related to, so that may be why you might see this several times). Here's an explanation of what's going on in short form:

-We are recreating the Problem Sets.

-You can still access the old problem sets here: http://classic.7sage.com/lesson/old-problem-sets/

-No, you don't have to go back and complete the new problem sets we added. They are similar to the old one.

-If you've started with the old Problem Sets, you can continue with the old Problem Sets. That's not to say you can't look at the new Problem Sets / complete the new ones. Feel free. Just letting you know you might see repeated material amongst the new stuff.

I also want to clarify that no one is losing content in their existing package. You still have access to all the same Problem Sets you had when you signed up here:

http://classic.7sage.com/lesson/old-problem-sets/

More info in this thread:

http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/comment/18273

@"Alan Cheuk" The problem sets are new (and packaged better), and some of it is old.

@Pacifico

is right on the button that we are going through PT 17-35 to extract the questions in a more systematic way. Before we had a loose selection of questions from PT 10-35 making up the problem sets.

The old problem sets were created without LSAT Analytics data, but now that we have information available, the new problem sets will use pretty much every question from PT 17-35 (way more questions than before). They also slowly ramp up in difficulty, so the early problem sets are the easiest ones, and then you slowly get to the harder ones.

Right now for the new problem sets Premium students get easy problem sets, Ultimate students get the easy and medium problem sets, and a TBA course level will get the easy medium and hard problem sets. The new problem sets also incorporate the LSAT Analytics data to make reviewing your answers easier.

Existing students get to keep access to the old problem sets (under "Old Problem Sets"), and get access to new problem sets if Premium or higher level. There is overlap between the old and new problem sets, so if you try both, you will see repeats.

We are still in the process of migrating. We've got the LR ones pretty much done, but are still working on RC and LG.

@Pacifico noticed a bug where Analytics wasn't linking to explanations (http://classic.7sage.com/forums/discussion/3052/site-changes#latest). That's not a change but a mistake (sorry!). I'm working on it :)

I hope this helps clear things up!

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So, I understand why we can't download PDFs containing actual LSAC exam materials, but I can't help but feel a little cheated. I signed up after the whole download period ended. I know someone wants to reply and tell me about licensing fees and how 7Sage still has to pay all these fees for actual questions. I do understand.

My suggestion is to change the exams and PS that come with the the bundles to PTs that are available in the 10 Actuals books. Although not ideal, they are definitely a cost effective option. Having to pay full price for individual exams that are not available in those books or high prices for books that include 6 of the 10 exams that are included in the starter course just feels like a slap in the face and certainly does not make me want to invest even more money to upgrade my course.

I am not trying to come off angry, because I am not, but I do feel like I paid full price for half the product that other people received. It's a good product, but it used to be much better and I missed out.

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So I understand how to apply the Blind Review method to full length PT's; take the test, circle uncertain ones, go back and review uncertain ones after the test before checking score. But when you're taking lessons and doing problem sets, and the course asks you to blind review a set of a dozen or so main conclusion etc. questions, how are we supposed to time ourselves on individual questions? Thanks for the help.

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Both 7Sage and LSAT Trainer cherry pick individual questions to correspond to particular lessons, which is a good thing. I keep meticulous records of all those questions in an Excel spreadsheet (conditionally formatted to mark any I missed). That way, after I finished my core study, and begin to PT, I will know what tests are truly untouched.

My question: will it throw off my 7Sage analytics to input those scattered individual questions to identify my problem areas? Are the algorithms designed for whole PTs only? I don't want to do it if it will obscure my PT improvement.

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Hi guys, On my last 3 PT I've takdn at the actual test location under timed conditions I've had much more trouble finishing the sections on time and my scores have really dipped. I have no issues when I take a strict timed PT at home so I guess this is psychological. I keep putting myself in the test day environment but I haven't seen any improvement. Do you guys have any suggestions on how to handle? I'm worried because my scores are like 7-8 points lower when I'm testing at the test location. Thoughts?

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Sunday, Jun 14, 2015

Site Changes

I've been trying to answer a lot of people's questions about the changes going on with the site, and I trust that y'all have a plan in place for the new problem sets and all that. However, I don't get why all of the explanations have been removed from the analytics page. It was so easy to jump right into reviewing after I BR because I could just open a new tab right off of the analytics page with my scored PT breakdown showing individual links for explanations for each question. After poking around I finally discovered I could still access the explanations, but now I have to go to the syllabus, find the PT I just did, and then go to a page with no information on my performance and select whatever questions I'd like to review. I'm hoping this is just a byproduct of some ongoing transitions behind the scenes because it was much more user friendly in the previous setup. I know that y'all work hard to make this site what it is, so @"Dillon A. Wright" or @alancheuk could either of you shed some light on this for us? I know I'm not the only one with these questions. Thanks for all that you do for this community, we really appreciate it!

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I'm sure that I'm not the only one that noticed there are a bunch of new problem sets shoved into our study guide. This really stressed me out, since I was just about to finish the old problem sets, and now I have no idea which ones I have done or should do. I am planning to take the test in October, and I don't think I'll be able to finish them all in time while doing the PTs at the same time. Is anyone else in the same boat?

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  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: We prefer not to check answers during the call, and ideally, you will not have checked your answers before the call. We check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :)
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    Saturday, Jun 13, 2015

    Order of PTs

    After starting PTs a couple weeks ago with 36 and going in order from there, I started to wonder what other approaches people take to doing PTs. So for those of you that are in PT mode I was curious about strategy. Does everyone just do them in order and eventually see a decrease in their scores as PTs get harder and then their scores rise again when they adjust? Or are some of you mixing it up a bit and either doing them randomly or deliberately in a different order, but perhaps saving a few of the most recent for right before your real LSAT?

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    All lessons with problem sets are not available. For example, "Main Point and Main Conclusion Question Problem Sets" and "Most Strongly Supported Questions Problem Set" and their corresponding answer pages are saying "page not found". Any ideas what's happening?

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    Hey, guys!

    I was wondering if anyone here had any experience with the Law School Prep course here at 7Sage. I love the community, the program is amazing, and I'd like to continue supporting this program as it supports my growth and ability to do well in law school. I've watched all the free videos, and I'm confident that my familiarity with 7Sage will be a nice fit with the Law School Prep Courses offered. However, What does it include that programs like "Barbri" and "Mini Review" do not? Maybe this is the wrong section for this, and maybe I'm asking too many questions, but I'm not exactly sure what to look for. Am I looking for just practice exams at issue-spotting? Am I looking for more than that? Will I need to go beyond 7Sage like some others do for the LSAT prep course (LSAT Trainer mixed with 7Sage)? I love 7Sage, and I trust their product, I just want a bit of a nudge haha! Hope all the waiters are dying with anxiety like I am :D! Good luck to those studying! This is an awesome course.

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    im a bit confused, after the first blind review section it just jumped to a practice exam with all the sections when all ive done so far is some grammar and intro to arguments sections.

    can someone clarify? thnx

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