I just saw that there was a new video that showed a very good student working through an LSAT logic game in real time, with JY providing color commentary. (could you imagine a TV channel that did nothing but this?). http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-35-section-3-game-4/#comment-30736.

I also remember seeing @"Jonathan Wang" doing an LR section in real time (25 questions in 25 minutes no less--- bows and incants “we’re not worthy!!” over and over again) on the boards, but I can’t find it anymore.

I think there are even more out there, but I’m having trouble finding them. Is there a way we can organize finding these videos in an easier fashion? I guess this is more of a question for LSAT Forum guru and all-aroung awesome guy, @"Dillon A. Wright”

I’m at a place now where I really understand much of the LSAT. I just don’t have the most efficient process to execute the LSAT in the time allotted. I think watching people knock it out of the park could really help.

I need more space for the games!

I have the Ultimate Package. When I log in and press continue on the dashboard, it shows one set of problems for "Strengthening Problem Set 1" but when I go to the syllabus and scroll down to the same link, it shows less problems and it just looks different. Wondering if there is something wrong.

Confession: I am a free user, mooching off of this discussion forum.

I am going through the The LSAT Trainer and once I finish, I'll take 3 diagnostics. From there I will most likely go through the Power Score books in all of the sections I am missing more than 3-5 in. Finally, I will get a private tutor for 10-15 hours to help me identify specifically what I struggle with (either question types or time) and how to attack it (accepting offers for tutoring hah).

Questions:

1. Recently, I saw in a thread someone mention doing the Trainer with 7sages program. Do they compliment each other well? Can someone tell me if 7sage is worth investing in considering I already brought all these other books before I found out about 7sage? I am already on the fence considering the explanations of each PT may prove to be invaluable.

2. What Cambridge books should I get? (links appreciated) I only just saw these in a thread 5 minutes ago. Are they for helping with time. Tell me more about these please.

3. (Kind of dumb) I haven't started studying reading comprehension, but no one anywhere seems to be that concerned with it even though its 50% of the test. Is it really that much easier than the others?

Thanks and 180s for all!

What have people found to be the most efficient way of studying. I am almost done with my 7Sage lessons, and wondering how I should continue my studies. I have all the prep tests out there, and all the Cambridge question specific drill packets. The only drilling I have done is the drilling at the end of each section the 7sage course provides. I am registered for the December Administration, and want to utilize the 5 months that I have to drill and PT in the most efficient way possible. I am not looking to get good at this test, I am looking to achieve close to perfection, if not perfection itself. I want to know what you guys have done to dominate this test. What techniques you used to drill, PT, and overall to get really good at this test.

I'm just now starting to do logic games, and it is completely foreign to me. My question: Do we not write on our master game board with inferences and rules annotated on it? Sorry, if it seems like a silly question; I am just super confused.

I'm prepping for the exam with a friend who has a pretty serious chronic illness. He has applied to get 25% extra time on the LSAT. Although I think that, given his illness, he deserves the added time, I'm confused whether that extra time can be of significant help. If he's approved, he'll get 8 extra minutes per section.

I haven't taken the exam yet but I understand that time constraint is one of the biggest challenge that the exam entails. However, I also believe that if you're not familiar with the exam by test day, those 8 extra minutes will never be enough. Him and I had a mini argument on this topic.

What're your thoughts on this? Especially the folks who have taken this dreadful exam previously.

Hey 7Sagers, had a few users a bit confused about the difference between trivial & non-trivial inferences on this lesson:

http://classic.7sage.com/lesson/quiz-on-drawing-valid-conclusions-2/#comment-30714

Think you guys can shed some light?

@captainoats @linette.m

I'm about to start the PTing portion of my study.

I've also just purchased the Cambridge LR bundle that covers all question types for the section. What's the best way to use it? PT, discover my weaknesses and then incorporate the drilling into my refresher study from the core curriculum and Trainer?

Any advice welcomed!

Hi everyone, I just took the June LSAT. Currently, I trying to write my personal statement while waiting for the LSAT results. English is my second language (born in South America), so creating strong sentences to express my thoughts becomes challenging sometimes. I would like to know, what you guys are doing concerning advising and editing (your essays). Do you guys know any services that can assist you in this writing process?

Hey,

So I have recently started out the 7sage curriculum. My biggest weakness in the past was Logic Games so I have really been focusing on the LG curriculum and making good strides. I feel as if my PTs will be essentially wasted if I take them without fully going through all of the LG curriculum. My RC and LR are not bad, I just want to improve on my LG score for the time being. Therefore, I was planning on knocking out the rest of the LG curriculum before I start taking PTs for the October LSAT. I hope to be done by the end of June with the LG curriculum and then begin taking PTs along with drilling RC and LR through the 7sage curriculum through July, August, and September.

Do you guys have thoughts on this approach/have others used a similar approach and been successful?

Any input would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

This question might strike some as odd. If it does, I apologize in advance. I'm having a problem carving a block out of any day for a full length timed test. What are the draw backs, aside from not subjecting myself to the mental anguish of sitting there for 4 hours, of taking the sections individually under the same strict timed conditions? I understand the importance of taking timed tests, but I also have to juggle everything else as well. Is it more important to keep the tests for the days that I can complete it undisturbed or to actually complete timed sections each day and take full length practice tests every now and then? My fear is not doing enough timed sections by limiting myself to only taking full length tests. I'm interested in hearing opinions from others that might be in the same boat and from those that are "LSAT deities." Some teachers, such as Nathan Fox, believe there is nothing wrong with completing PT's in this manner as long as full length PT happen every once in a while for acclimation to the full test. To provide a background on myself, I have been through the curriculum twice, The Trainer once and have completed 8 post PT 36 tests in a mixture of the methods questioned above.

@amanda_kw

@nicole.hopkins

@ddakjiking

@Pacifico

@"Nilesh S"

@emli1000

Ok so am I the only pretty little law geek that finds these questions tough? Lol I'm not bad at LR overall but these questions trip me up quite often. Any advice? I know eventually if I keep doing them I will get better but I am interested to know if anyone uses a different strategy or notices a characteristic about these that distinguishes them from other flaw questions and makes them a little easier to solve. I simply identify the argument, find a flaw and attempt to find the answer that strengthens or weakens that bond between the support and conclusion (not always easy to discern even when I understand the argument).

I just finished going through the entirety of the core curriculum (ah if only that was all it takes). I have the basic course, and I'm looking for input on the whether upgrading is worth it given that all the tools, so to speak, are provided with the basic version. The price isn't an issue, nor is my cognizance of the potential ROI; just curious what you all think.

Ran into this commercial and found it LSAT related/amusing. Hope you guys like it.

While I am making progress in the LG section, I am seeing that there is a pattern I do not like. It is an extremely sporadic pattern. Either I understand the game and get all the questions right (sometimes miss only one) or completely misunderstand the game and get most questions wrong. There isn't a very strong correlation between game type for me. For example, I don't seem to bomb matching games more than sequencing etc. It's literally if I understand the task well, I answer correctly and if I don't I am guessing I misrepresent the diagram or the rules in such a way that it nearly throws me off the entire game. Is this a basic diagramming/notating problem that I just need to address? Maybe re-read the basics of LG, or use another resource to bridge that gap?

I am also thinking maybe it doesn't make sense to time myself. When I blind review LG, of course I do a lot better. But if I can't get them accurate under in times conditions then it doesn't make much sense to time myself yet right? Naturally, I tend to do worse even on games i do understand under the time pressure. =( usually its because of a missed inference or incorrect representation of a rule that I get correct when I am not being timed.

I've regressed back into my plateau range of high 150's low 160's. It's disappointing as I thought I had made progress and now I have around 15 of my 21 total preptests in this range. In other words I have been in a consistent plateau my whole testing period with a few beneficial and not so beneficial outliers. Nonetheless, I have thought of a possible solution. Would it work if I took and retook preptests 62-72 until I was able able to score 175+ consistently on all of them. That way I would be able to master some inferences in LR, fine tune my RC, and increase inference making ability and speed in LG. I would keep 73 and 74 fresh to check to see if I made any real progress afterwards. I know it is highly likely I would be remembering a lot of answers, but hopefully I would also be remembering why the respective answers are correct and why the incorrect answers are wrong. I may increase the range (from 62-72 to 57-72) to encompass a few more possibilities for questions but you get the major gist. I really want to break out of this plateau and hit a higher range so that I may have wiggle room on the next test day. My new goal for myself is 165-180. Is this idea stupid or just dumb enough to actual work???

I started the 7sage core curriculum in March, and finished it last week.

My diagnostic was 153. Today, I took my first PT (after my diagnostic test) - PT39.

I scored a disappointing 151, with 161 for BR. ( I left 13 questions blank due to the ticking clock...)

My strongest section was RC, then LG, with my weakest being .... LR...

I am planning on taking the Oct LSAT with a goal of 168+.

WHAT SHOULD I DO???!!!! Help me out sagers...

Hey guys - I've been studying for almost a year and have been consistently scoring in the low 170s-high 160s on PTs35-70 and once I took 71,72,73 my scores fell to low 160s and even hitting a 159 for one. Is it just me or do these most recent PT feel different to anyone else? Even when I BR I find the LR arguments to be much more tricky and the RC is more difficult for me to finish in 35 minutes. What the heck is going on and how do I get over this?

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Hey everyone! I have not yet bought a package from 7sage, but probably will go with the premium option. I'm a Canadian looking toward getting a score of around 160-163 to be competitive at Canadian law schools.

I'm entering 4th year university and was on the edge of whether I should apply for the 2016 cycle or wait till I graduate to study for the LSAT and apply for the 2017 cycle.

If I start prepping now I have around 3 months ( I know you can't reach your full potential in this short time). I would just like to hear some of your progress stories and whether 3 months of serious studying is enough to break the 160 barrier.

Thank you, and I look forward to communicating with you guys in the future.

Most people who take many exams of the lsat plateau at some point. How did you escape your plateau?

Since this is a diverse group of people with different expectations and ideals, I have a simple question. What do you consider a good score and why?

So I was just poking around on the site and to my surprise 7sage has a law school course! I had no idea. Has anyone taken this course and if so, has it really made a difference in your law school grades and/or experience?

Anyone else not able to access the locked problem sets despite having an Ultimate account? I'm not able to access them, and I have no idea why.

Thanks!