I'm currently registered for the October LSAT, but I'm still PTing around 4-5 points below where I want to be. I want to take the December LSAT, but it falls right on the Saturday before finals week. Even though I have sort of a light load as a 4th year UG student, finals week is always a burden.

Should I be worried? Part of me wants to believe that if I'm ready for the LSAT, finals week stress won't hit me too hard on test day.

How extensive is your reasoning for eliminating wrong answer choices? Do you just write something small like "no evidence" "does the opposite of correct answer," or do you go deeper? I feel like I need to BR better sometimes I just feel like I cannot reach 100% certainty on questions when I am BR'ing.

I have always been one of those people who studies from as many sources as possible to get the best grasp of a topic.....Before joining here I had a small intro book and 2 Bibles w/workbooks. Then I joined here and have had much success. Here is what I did wrong:

I decided to take an in-person course taught at a local established University. It started Aug 24th and was twice a week. Manageable.? Right? Oh no, but wait....

1) The instructor has never taught an LSAT prep class, despite having his JD, Ph.D and being a philosophy professor. The curriculum was established so you'd think he'd catch up quickly....:? You'd be wrong...

2) With the class you get a book from the University Press.... A clueless instructor + a book that uses all different terminology = recipe for disaster.

3) Their method was SO ridiculously complicated.

Long story short: I quickly got confused. Confusion leads to depression. Depression leads to burnout....Which brings us to today.

I am not going back to that class and, after a few days break I have been happily studying on 7sage all day. :)

Love this course/community. Keep up the AWESOME work!!!!!!!

Just floating this out there with no real question, per say. I'm looking into Sport Law schools, and dabbling into research on Entertainment Law schools (not mutually exclusive). Wondering if anyone else around these parts has the same idea.

Top interests right now include UGeorgia (approx 160 LSAT) and UMiami (little lower than that). Georgetown also, but that will likely be my reach school, and with a late application I'm not getting my heart set on it until I do some PTs.

Anyone else have insights/concerns about Sport & Entertainment Law schools, programs, & apps?

I started with a very low initial LSAT score 4 years ago (131). I studied it on and off for a few years but never took it seriously, it was just a side interest until about this year february. During those 4 years despite doing very little work I manage to raise my score to a low 150. Then I had a pretty good job but I now am taking a formal course in person in addition to 7sage. When I started my in person course in June I got a diagnostic and scored a 158 (pt 61), which was the same as my June Lsat Sore. Yesterday I wrote preptest 62 and got a 161, today I wrote pt 63 and got a 154, I found the LG and reading comp way harder on 63. That being said about 2 weeks ago I wrote pt 40 and got a 168. But to be fair, I had literally seen LR/argument on it except maybe 4/5 in the whole section. And I also seen every game in it and done it before plus the reading comps, some of them I kind of remembered too. I didn't really remember much of pt 62 or 63. As in I actually had to go through the process and would debate the answers like a real test.

I'm not trying to brag or anything, but I did score very highly in regular school graduating in the top 5% of my high school and my undergrad program which was a very competitive business program (think Ivy League). Most of my friends from high school and university are either bankers, doctors, lawyers, etc.

At this point I am wondering what I can do to improve my score more. I just found it very weird how it seems everyone else is so easily able to improve their score on the lsat going from 140s and 150s to high 160s, and I have to struggle studying much harder to get a far worse score.

Alot of the LR I get wrong comes from the fact that I don't understand the wording in the answer choice like when they are using double negations. Another set of it can come from when I don't understand the passage although, I am trying to fix that too by not going to the answer choice in practice until I understand the passage. When I do this untimed, I can pretty much get most of the questions, as in over 90% accuracy although some areas are less, just 75-80% maybe. And those wrong ones all have to do with tricky wording, or grammar tricks, or things that seem unclear as in could be argued either way, just depending on what the test writer wanted it to be.

I'm not sure if I should start trying to study logic or reading those weird non-fiction "Women's books" to try to understand the LSAT better. There is something strange that is throwing me off but it is hard for me to put the finger on it. I have a pretty good grasp of the methods to get the right answers.

Doing some BR at the moment, and I am noticing that with adequate time, I am able to answer questions correctly during BR than under time constraints. Any advice?

Hey everyone,

I've just arrived at PT 66. The extra diagram space has really thrown me off because I was used to the convienence of having my master game board and rules on the same page as the questions. What's the best strategy when turning the page? Re-diagraming rules and master game board or flipping the page back/folding?

... I got addicted to Suits.

Hey guys,

So I've done 21 PTs now, and the one I just did today I got 161. My goal LSAT score is exactly 160+, and I've been getting that almost every time in the past 10 tests, and high 150s in the ones before that.

I have 5 LSATs left, and I'm wondering what I should do. I have basically reached my goal, and I honestly don't think I can even do any better. Take today for example, I did PT 66, and went -4 in games, -6 on both LRs, and -8 in RC. I literally guessed that those would be the scores as I was taking it, a -8 on RC is fairly good for me, and whenever I get that or under, I almost always do well on the actual PT.

-6 in LRs is another thing I don't think I can improve any further. I haven't done BR yet, but I most likely messed up one easy mark question due to topic context being confusing or mis-read, and the rest 5 were probably 5 star questions that I can't even get right during BR.

-4 in Games is something that I think I can fix, although I'm willing to bet one of those was a substitution and equivalence question that I just circled guessed and moved on. The rest of the wrong ones are from me rushing to get all the games done on time.

So what I'm really asking is what's the best way I can make use of the time I have left. I feel like if I do the remaining 5 PTs, they will be 160s, but is that really helping me for Oct? Maybe I should drill some of my weaknesses like RC and not do more?

Note I print off the entire LSAT over again for BR, and I generally average 167 for it, but regardless my actual PT score has been low 160s for as long as I can remember. Can't seem to get past it. I've heard that there is another transition when everything suddenly starts to click, but I feel like I'm just doing rinse repeat on every lsat.

I just need some guidance.

Does anyone have a preference to either? I have a hard time with translating vertical setups and am far more inclined to diagram horizontally.

....and I'm neither angry nor happy. I got a 153 (159 BR). The reason why I'm not completely angry is because it's actually a 3 point increase from where I was PT'ing prior to enrolling in the 7sage course (I took about 5 PTs after self studying).

I have to find happiness/reasons for celebration in whichever forms they come, no matter how small.

I'm really curious to see if I can increase my score some more. There was definitely some questions on the test that I know I could've gotten correct but my nerves got to me.

Hey there, so I just started this program and have been going over the fundamentals since it seems like a good point to start at. Without a doubt the most trouble I have is properly placing the Sufficient and Necessary conditions when it comes to the group 1. 2 and 3 exercises/quiz within the logic section.

Often, I will find myself getting close to the right answer BUT its in reverse. So let's say /m --- > f is right, my answer is f -----> /m.

I'll try to get to the root of why it's happening myself, but would appreciate feedback from anyone that might have encountered the same problem and resolved it. Thanks for reading.

I was hoping to receive some advice regarding law school apps. I was advised to apply to law school through Ontario Law School Application service (OLSAS), but found there are about only 7 law schools here. I was wondering about applying through Lsac. Do I reapply to the same law schools that I applied to through OLSAS, in Lsac? Any one familiar with submitting letters of recommendation through either OLSAS or LSAC? Thank you in advance!

Hi everyone, I'm hoping someone has some suggestions on the best way to drill/study/practice in order to improve speed. I finally feel really solid in my fundamentals. On my last PT (74), I scored a 168 with a BR of 176, which is typical of my most recent PTs (usually more of 169/BR173). I'm at the point where I'm understanding all the problems and most of my wrong answers are due to rushing/guessing when I'm running out of time, or just generally rushing through the section and making dumb mistakes. On a typical PT, I usually don't get to at least one question at the end of an LR section, and my last RC passage is usually started with only 6 minutes on the clock.

I know my biggest obstacle is time and that this will be fixed with more and more practice. I'm taking in October and have a lot of time (only working part-time) and have a lot of material left that I can use (Cambridge packets, PTs I've never taken, etc.).

Right now, I'm doing 2 recent PTs per week. What should I do as far as practice in addition to this? Should I drill questions in Cambridge packets so I can gain more familiarity and answer questions faster? Should I drill entire sections of old PTs? Should I give myself less than 35 minutes when drilling sections or taking PTs? Any help is so appreciated.

Thanks for any suggestions you may have! :)

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Hi all,

I started off with PS and left for a variety of reasons, and have just finished the 7sage curriculum (very happy with it). Two questions:

1. does anyone know what I could do with the PS materials? If there were any techniques they found helpful/parts of books they liked?

2. Starting with PT 36 tomorrow, any BR groups I can join? Was planning to take the October, but I think at this rate I'd have to do 2 practice exams a day to get there on time...I had a friend who did that but I'm not sure if it'd be very good for me.

Thanks for the help!

So I started August 24th, before that we had an orientation which for us was basically giving us assignments to get done before the first day of class..yes there's homework before you even begin class.

People hear about the socratic method and the case method and they are the predominate method of teaching. I can't say for all schools but from what I've read and what I've experienced, this is true. I'm almost sure you are all better readers than me and thats good because you just read and read some more, then when you're done you read some more.

So what happens, at least for me, is I get assigned cases or a set of pages to read in the casebook. Some are easy, some are ridiculous, a good rule is if its older it'll probably take longer since the language is confusing. If you want to look good in class then you should have a law dictionary (Black's or another) next to you, the law databases that your school gives you (WestLaw or LexisNexis or Bloomberg or whatever) and the most important..Google. If something doesn't make sense, Google the shit out of it. If you want to look really good, then Google about the time period, the judge who was giving the opinion etc.. Of course, looking good in class doesn't really matter if you bomb the exam so I think you should just find a good balance.

I have the attitude where I don't care about looking good in class but I do want to learn so I do some extra research but its for my own benefit.

A lot of people say learn the black letter law. This is true, if you can memorize rules and laws, great but especially when you start, the casebook kinds of builds upon itself. For example you figure out the law that the case is using or just made and then the next case they just totally change it. Law school is basically self taught, class seems like its just to make you cry but really it's helping you to see the bigger picture and see how a case can be applied in tons of ways, it's best to digest and see that instead of seeing your professor trying to make you look stupid.

I think the most important thing I learned so far is that if you want to do good, you have to learn your professors. Thats number one. Talking to students who have had the specific professor is crucial. They know how the professor grades and their style. If you take nothing else from this, take that.

Also, don't be scared, who care's if you look dumb for a bit, everyone does. Last thing, law school won't teach you every law that there is..we have a common law system which just makes everything crazy. Just learn how to be a problem solver, learn how to take a problem and be able to find that answer and by that answer, I mean the answer that you want it to be. No two cases are alike and a lot of cases you can attack it from all sorts of angles to make your argument semi-legit and for civil cases (where the money's at) that's all you need, preponderance..

Anyway, hope this helps someone who crushed the LSAT and is trying to figure out the next step.

Clearly, I'm doing really great today.

It took me until the end of section one to realize that Bruce Wayne aka Batman is one of the proctors I'm able to choose.

What are the chances of getting any of the following included on the list??

Louis Armstrong

Barack Obama

Donald Trump

Gilbert Gottfried

Seth Rogan

Madeleine Albright

About lawyers :)

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I'm taking the quizzes in the SA section and one quiz is all biconditional questions and JY says to review the biconditional lesson. Except I have no idea where those are and I have doubled checked to make sure I didn't skip any lessons up til this point. Help!

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So, my cold diagnostic was 149, a little over a month ago. I finished the curriculum about three days ago and my first PT was a 156. I went -6 on my two argument sections (missing 2 easy questions on both), -9 on games, and -14 of 27 on RC! I think 149-156 is a decent increase and I think I just bombed the reading comp because I usually never score that badly on it. (FML) Anyway, I'm aiming for Decemebr 5th LSAT, I would be happy to score around 167. Should I pick up the Trainer and complete it in 10 days? (About 50-60 pages per day) Or just say fuck it, and straight PT'ing till December. Or, would you guys reccomend I only do CERTAIN parts of the trainer?! Thanks all.

Hi! This could be a dumb question, sorry if this has an obvious answer.

So I took PT54 today, and according to the score sheet, I got a 157 actual/161 BR. This PT was out of 101 questions. I added up my incorrect answers and got RC -7, LR -15, LG -6 for 73 raw. On the BR, it was RC -5, LR -13, LG -1 for 82 raw. This is assuming that the answers I got correct in actual but wrong in BR still count towards the BR total (is that how it's calculated??). According to the raw conversion chart, shouldn't I be at a 159/165?

Is there a curve for the difficultly of the test that's lowering my score? I'm confused. I didn't see a breakdown for BR so I manually counted.

Thank you for the help!

Hi, I have a question regarding law school apps

currently, I'm serving in Korean Air Force for two years

but as I work on the application I wondering whether it would be okay for me to

put Republic of Korea, Air Force on the full time employment section.

I do know they have separate "military" section

but as I'm not enlisted in the US military branch, I certainly cannot state my Korean Air Force on that section.

Thanks in advance!