I just have to get this off my chest because it keeps blowing my mind, and I'd love any advice or just someone else to say they feel me on this. I approach the games with so much enthusiasm. I actually find them fun, and I adore the "aha" moments of discovering inferences. I tend to get the answers right and then do a happy dance. However, every time I tackle the section under strict real-time conditions (the real Nov. test, several mock proctored PT situations), I can't perform. I not only run out of time, but I'm so scared of running out of time that I rush and misread and screw up my setups. After it's over, I come home and knock out those very same games, set everything up correctly, and get them all right. AND IT'S SO FRUSTRATING because it feels like these games are IMPOSSIBLE and POSSIBLE at the same time. I'm 75% through the CC, and I'm just starting to foolproof. I realize now that foolproofing for time is just as important as foolproofing for accuracy. I bought a big binder and filled it with plastic sheet protectors and purchased two packs of super thin dry-erase markers and erasers. I hope this method works because if I actually need to print 10 copies of every game, I fear I'll wreck my husband's printer. I'm going to fullproof like my freaking life depends on it so I can jump over this hurdle in time to be awesome for the June test. It hurts my brain to both think and rush at the same time, but that's what it's going to take. Hold me accountable, you guys, please!

Today, many of us, including myself, took the Jan LSAT. Congratulations for having survived the tribulation. I just wanted to share a little anecdote with you, my peers.

For me, today, on the very question of the very last section, as the proctor called out for us to drop the pencil, I noticed I had chosen the wrong answer. I immediately felt a monstrous and bestial or animalistic urge to change the answer choice, but I stopped myself, then came a sense of indignance, but soon after, I only felt relief as I just closed my eyes and closed my booklet. Discipline. Acceptance. Confidence. I believe I have started to grasp all these things now, and that one wrong question didn't matter in the face of true growth.

Some of you know might know I got expelled from the Nov LSAT because I did not drop my pencil fast enough, and I have tried my best to learn from that experience. As many of you pointed it, "duh", and logically I agree. But emotionally, it was truly excruciating, especially when so many around me in that test or even today, did the same thing and were unpunished, and especially since I was practicing at, what I believed, to be my peak capabilities. But logic must triumph over emotions. Just because other people weren't punished, doesn't mean I didn't deserve to be punished, and it was only just that I was punished. We dedicate so much to this test, and to get completely denied, and permanently labeled, like that was soul shaking. I had to take time completely away from the LSAT, and 7sage.

I had to really look into myself about why I felt so bad, and indignant, because I knew I didn't deserve to feel like that. I was in the wrong. I discovered that, at that point, I was deeply emotionally and illogically attached to the LSAT. Many people on the forums have described the LSAT journey as an obsession, and for me, it was an unhealthy one. I needed to change so that this wouldn't happen to me again. This meant not only strategic and competency changes, but also mental changes, so that I won't even be tempted again. I wrote a short post about the "5 Minutes Remaining" method that helped me strategically. In terms of mentality, however, I had to get out of my own head, change my mindset from a subjective one to an objective one. I had to truly embrace that LSAT isn't worth getting upset, anxious, or depressed about, that law school was just one out of infinite options, and that if something was fated to happen, or if something was able to teach me something, then it cannot be a bad thing and that if it wasn't a bad thing, then I shouldn't feel bad. Whatever happened, happened, and whatever will happen, will happen.

Sitting here right now, I don't know if I did better in this test or not, but at this point, I don't think it really matters. It's all in fate's hands now. I'm just proud because I didn't make the same mistake again, but not out of fear of punishment, but because I knew what was right, and what was logical, and what was meaningful to me.

Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official January 2019 LSAT Discussion Thread.

**Please keep all discussions of the January 2019 LSAT here!**(/red)

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Something I have been reflecting on, and I think can help some of you who just started on the LSAT journey are some of the hacks I gained over time. I call them the LG sixth sense. When doing questions, sometimes, you can just feel whether you did something wrong. For example, when you do your acceptable situation question, you can learn from that whether you properly diagrammed the board; when you see a lot of CBT/MBT/CBF questions, you can probably assume that this game can be split into very explicit sub-boards; when you run into a local question stem, but no clear big inference pops up, you probably missed a rule or misunderstood something. These just hacks that came to me after review lot of games critically.

Do you guys have some hacks that you have developed over time for LGs? If so, why not share it? Thanks, and cheers =)

Hi I don't see any posts about the international test, so I thought relevant discussions/questions here.

My specific question is which LG is experimental. The one with the weird product origins game at the end or the one with the pet owner thingy at the end?

Best of luck to all of you!

Hi 7sagers.

I've been reviewing my incorrect answers these days. One major problem in my LR is that sometimes I eliminate all the answer choices and cannot see the correct answer that describes the "gap" that I found in the argument, so I end up with a less wrong answer (which is actually wrong). After I review the explanation, I can see the correct answer does describe the gap/ logic error that I have found during the timed session. I know the correct answer choices tend to hide themselves in some ways. But anyone has any suggestions on how to solve this problem?

Practice makes perfect? or are there any useful strategies that we could apply?

Thank you in advance!!

LG section tripped me up for some reason. Seemed pretty standard maybe I was just today?

Was the LG session with the first game about computer installation experimental or real?

hey guys,

So this game has 2 "if" rules as follows:

My confusion is from the the first rule. I understood that if George is presenting "J" then Rita is also included. But does it also means that if Rita is presenting "J" then so does George?

please help.

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What I wrote down for BR: I do not see an answer choice that really strengthens Ms. Fring's argument. However, if a company follows an experts advice and the result was very little profit(ac E) I believe that would be a substantial example allowing us to reject Mr. Blatt's argument.

I know that this is a strengthening question and we should be looking for something that strengthens the argument and not weakens Mr. Blatts argument, but I do not see how ac C is correct. What does volume of business have to do with blame? The stimulus just says the more they cost the more they can be blamed not the more or less they cost the more or less business they have.

#help

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Hi! I'm taking the LSAT tomorrow and would love a bit of last minute help on this one to boost my confidence.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-34-section-4-game-4/

In the explanation, JY explains that answer B is correct using a thought process I cannot seem to grasp despite the number of times I watch the video. if J is in, then P is in - no problem. but then to say that when J is in, O and N can also be in confuses me...I understand that looking left of J - taking the contrapositive - O and N are in. but in doing so, don't you have to leave J out since it requires the contrapositive of J to get O and N in? I must be missing something super basic here. please help :) Thanks!

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This has been something that works for me. In the past, I have found that when the timer calls out 5 minutes left, even if I only barely started on the last passage, I can usually finish the passage and questions before the time is up, and not notice a significant score decrease in those last passages. Taking this knowledge with me, I approached a whole section with this mentality, and was able to consistently finish before the 5 minutes warning, and having the time to go back to hard questions with a fresh eye helps tremendously, allowing me to digest all the information I previously read. This is similar to what I did when I conducted confidence drills, but this gives me a more tangible sense of urgency.

The hard part was not losing the sense of urgency. Usually, by the third passage, I start slowing down, and need to remind myself that I'm running out of time.

I would also say that this is not a technique that works for everyone, and is probably fairly advanced. You may have to first master the memory method or other fundamental techniques first before this can consistently be applied.

Hope this helps. Cheers~

PS: Just did the test, and can confirm, at least for myself, the "5 minutes remaining" strategy did wonders. It keeps the adrenaline pumping non-stop. I can't confirm that I did well, but I did finish every section before the 5 minutes call, and probably both logic game sections and an LR section with about 10 minutes left.

Hey everyone, hope everyone is either PTing to the stars or getting waterboarded with acceptance waves.

I just wanted to get some advice from the 7Sage family in regards to the near future (Saturday) and long term.

I am doing a dry run for the LSAT on Saturday (I have really bad test anxiety and thought it would be a good idea)

I started studying early Jan and cold tested with a diagnostic score of 150 on the June 2007 PT.

I took PT 16 today and went -12 LG, -9 -8 LR respectively and -4 RC for a score of 157.

Any advice for me to prepare for Jan LSAT and subsequently the March/June?

Thank y'all in advance!

Currently going through the CC and fool proofing the problem sets. I have done a decent job at diagramming but i am finishing the games at a slower rate. It is also taking me a while to make inferences for certain games. I'm guessing this is going to take a while? Lol

Hey everyone,

First time poster - doing some last minute studying. I'm reviewing November's test but I don't see JY's explanations for the last passage. Do you know if this is available anywhere? In particular I'm stuck on questions #23 and #26. If someone could just explain the right answers to those 2 I'd really appreciate it. I really liked D for #23; and B for #26.

Thanks and all the best!

YOOOO! I just wanted to ask a quick question about the must be true test for Necessary Assumption answer choices? could someone elaborate on that? Im confused with it. Specifically for the Rattlesnake question JY gives us in the lesson. The AC has to do with food which was never even mentioned in the premises/conclusion. How do we determine whether foreign information is relevant to the argument?

I am about 60% done with the CC. I plan to test Jun & July. LG is my weakest section however I fear that if I foolproof during the CC I will be stuck on the LG curriculum too long. I have already FP the first 3 PS for sequencing games.

Hey guys,

I’ve been drilling pretty hard for Saturday’s exam. I started feeling burnout on Monday and have been taking a break from the material. Would it still be a good idea to do a RC passage and logic game Friday? Is there anything I can do to shorten having burnout?

Hey 7sagers,

Just towards the latter end of completing the CC. However, doing the later LR problems for each question type – the really difficult questions are getting to me. The problem sets in which each question is scaled 5/5 (hardest) – I seem to do 2/5 on those. When reviewing over the problems, this what I notice:

I am sure others have probably gone through these sort of slumps with these difficult LR questions and– just wanted to know what are ways/techniques folks have overcome this? Is there a full-proof method for LR LOL? Do you re-do these problem sets afterwards?

Not sure what to do – b/c these type of problem sets are getting to me. For the other LR problem sets usually get perfect or at most one wrong.

Any help is much appreciated.

Hi,

I do not understand the answer and why it is correct. Can you please break AC sentence down completely?

Black Birds Nesting

I identified the question stem

(Weaken) the argument-->(Identify premise, conclusion, context if any)

This tells me that I need to destroy the support, lessen the support, attack the support that makes the conclusion true.

After reading the passage, I understood the causal relationship that is being purported.

Phenomenon Thing (1)Birds nesting for the first time, are less successful than (comparative statement) ("bigger stronger")older birds+(1yr olds)1st time ("smaller+weaker").

(This) (RF) (⬆︎ Phenomenon) can not be a mere matter of size and strength(meaning they cant attribute this⬆︎ success to just size and strength it must be something else... ) because Black birds are fully grown when they are leave the nest.

success≠(size + strength) (Author ruling out size and strength as reason for success)

Demands an explanation ( Blackbird Nesting Successful because _______________

Hypothesis They benefit by their nesting experience.

So black bird nesting experience (age?) is why they're successful.

Now I need to know why it is probably not their nesting experience, perhaps... ➔ (Alternate Cause/hypothesis/competing explanation/conclusion).

A. We know theyre successful, we don't know why... not interested in other birds +

B. Answer that was left, but dont understand it

C. 2nd time is more succ than first (Obvi) +

D. Author ruled out size and strength - in premise, not alt explanation to why success +

E. Honestly, proportion of All birds, is a rabbit hole, a dark one. ?

So B says per my limited breakdown.

The capacity (maximum amount?) of blackbirds to lay viable eggs increases (after this sentence is where I am at a wall) Berlin Wall

with each successive (same as successful?) trial (what?) during the 1st few years of reproduction (does this mean breeding, nesting, birth)?

Please Help

#Help.

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Hey 7sagers,

I am right now in the midst of doing practice LG sections from PT36 and up. I am timing up, meaning I trying to feel out how many minutes I am behind/ahead in LG sections. The LG commentary videos are very helpful. So far, these are my observations:

Before I start doing my timed LG sections (PTs 52 & above) – I really wanted to iron out my approach to this section that I can implement in my current phase. This is usually what I try to do:

1- Get the first game in the section done immediately, regardless of what it is.

2- Thereafter, scan the other games and look for the first question in each of them to see if a game board description is given in the ACs (example: sequencing games will have all the elements in a row in the AC). Based upon my game comfortability, I will choose the next game

3- If I see a MISC game type (which I am having difficulty in deciphering), I try my best to skip it and come back to it at the end.

I am not sure if this above approach of mine is a good idea. Just wanted to ask other 7sagers what’s their approach when doing LG? How do you think I can improve mine? How did you improve on the timing of the LG section?

Thanks for all your advice in advance. 😊

Did PT85 before my last take on Sunday

missed 1 on RC; 0 on LG; 13 combined in LR; no LR love for me even though I did every single PT and BRed them except 86 (guess my brain is not wired for this)

well gonna BR this test and do LR sections from 86

good luck to everyone who is taking the Jan test!

I eliminated all of the answer choices. I'm not sure how the author does not question the ethical basis of an economic situation. The moral that the author suggests in the stimulus is that a country cannot live for long without foreign trade. However, we are told that the U.S. has found most of it's raw materials and customers within the country and has suffered consequences from not participating in more foreign trade. Wouldn't this suggest that the author is questioning the ethical basis of the economic situation (not a lot of foreign trade) in the U.S.?

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I don’t think I understand the fundamental argument here... Initially I hesitantly chose A (the correct answer) thinking - the professor disputes the crater causing the extinction, this is irrelevant. However, during my review, I switched to E thinking he is arguing that, in spite of the common belief, because the rocks are normal polarity, the impact happened after the Mesozoic era when earth’s polarity was flipped. Therefore, the size of impact leads people astray, the rocks were caused by, melted, and recrystallized soon after the impact, but the mass extinction didn’t happen shortly after the impact, but rather much earlier.

This is the wrong answer, so I’m trying to determine where my thinking went wrong.... Thanks!

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Hey everyone, for my last week before the LSAT I just want to tune up on games to ensure a -0. Would like 4-5 prep tests with solid and challenging game sets that I could do before the actual on saturday. Any suggestions?