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On the last few PT's i've taken, all in the high 70s, i've noticed that i'm getting more of the harder questions right and some pretty easy (sometimes completely obvious) questions wrong. Just goes to show that we can't take the easier questions for granted.

I'd figure this would be something to laugh about!

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This game has virtually no rules to solve MPT questions.

During PT, I spent 15 minutes for the first 3 games, but I couldn’t finish game 4 in 20 minutes. I technically guess the last 4 answers because there are infinite possibilities.

I must did something terribly wrong. Please help.

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Hi 7sage community.

Question - do I do a full practice test under timed conditions with BR or just practice timed sections individually with BR before Monday? Or forego timed practice until after Monday and hit it hard for the fall date?

A brief background on where I am at:

I sat for March test after beginning studies with Kaplan books in January. Bombed the LG section (went at least -17) but got a 155, which was my PT average going into the test. I did 6 or 7 full (5 section and writing) practice tests leading up to March so I am familiar with the format, the "sprint", resetting my watch to the 12 between sections, bubbling in to not leave points on the table if time is low, and some of those little tricks.

Between March and June I had to catch up at work with projects I had left on the backburner from the beginning of the year (I work around 50 hours a week). I began the 7sage CC in earnest at the beginning of June. I haven't done it all, but I've been through every subsection for at least some of it. I spent the bulk of my time firming up my foundational and advanced logic skills (immensely helpful).

I'm sitting on Monday and haven't done a PT since March. Should I practice the whole thing or just practice each section, timed with BR? I am taking the rest of the week off and will let my brain rest Saturday and Sunday.

Also worried about what a low PT score will do to confidence heading into the test on Monday.......................... and even considering skipping timed practice for now.

I am fully committed to a LOT of PT and BR between Monday and the September or October test. Definitely doing one of those which will be my final attempt.

Lastly, I am accepted for fall 2020 at my top choice (local public school) so I am just trying to raise my score for financial aid purposes. This year's incoming 1L class had a median score of 157.

THANK YOU!

Kat

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Despite having gone through the core curriculum and JY's explanation videos multiple times, where he frequently skips around to local questions with premises before tackling global ones, I still approach logic games questions in order unless I'm really stuck. I've found in the past that LG questions often build on inferences from previous questions, something you might miss if you skip around.

Anyone have a particularly firm opinion on either approach? Would love to hear your thoughts!

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Hi.

I needed to improve logical reasoning skills so I took a simple argument and tried if I can come up with imaginary correct answers for different question types on my own. What do you guys think? Do you think I did any of them incorrectly?

Argument: You can't get a tattoo. Your aunt Barbara got a tattoo, and she is in jail.

Flaw: Assumes that I will have the same consequence as aunt Barbara if i get a tattoo like her.

Weaken: Some people who has a tattoo did not end up in jail

Strengthen: Most people who got a tattoo ended up in jail

Sufficient Assumption: A new legislation states that "anyone who gets a tattoo ends up in jail."

Necessary Assumption: There are at least some people besides aunt Barbara who got a tattoo and now in jail.

Parallel flaw: Last night, I saw a video of a black cat that was taught to use a toilet, our kitty is also black, so she could be taught to use a toilet.

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I understand that necessary condition has to be 100% true while sufficient is more of a "good enough" explanation for if something else is true. But when I look at examples I am confused on determining which is the sufficient and which is the necessary in "only if", "is" and "any" situations. (I have watched the videos like 3x already and still it makes no sense)

For instance, Earth is the only home we've ever known. What it says in the examples is Earth is the necessary but only home is the sufficient. I don't understand how this is the case? Does anyone have an easier way of explaining it?

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In every webinar and in most student testimonials, people mention identification of patterns as being one of the key processes to answering quickly and accurately. Are these patterns more than identifying what kind of question it is? Do they mean the structure of the questions themselves (premises, conclusions, fluff)? Or is there a formula for each question type that goes beyond any of that?

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Can someone explain why C is right and E wrong? Is it bc C aligns with the hypothesis and is what we would expect assuming the hypothesis is true, whereas for E, E allows a scenario where seals start off ignoring whales that do not eat seals, which would go against the hypothesis?

Also, I felt the language about the seals “ignoring” the not threatening whales confusing. It took me while to figure out that “ignoring” just meant not being scared of them and even being willing to go close to them. It’s the opposite of “aversion”. Anyone else got tripped up on this?

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Hey everyone,

I really need a sanity check because I feel like I'm getting in my own head. So I started studying about a month ago and was initially planning on taking the October LSAT because learning about the July Freebie. I started off with a 155 diagnostic with -8 and -11 on the two LR sections.

I then went through the LSAT Trainer (minus LG because 7sage's LG explanations felt more intuitive) and the CC and have recently started taking timed full PTs. Now this might be a very small sample, but in the 6 PTs after one month of studying I am getting an average of 164 with scores ranging from 162 to 168. (and BRs ranging from 171 to 174 if that matters) The score jump from my 155 diagnostic is due to a pretty big increase in LG as one might expect, but also because I got -6 to -3 in LR sections in all 6 PTs.

Now this is where I need a sanity check. When going through LR sections now, I don't feel like I'm doing things differently from when I took my diagnostic aside from maybe a better understanding of what the question stems are asking. Since doing well on the first PT after going through the CC, when doing LR sections in full PTs I just try to go as smoothly as I can while telling myself to trust my instincts and it seems like its working out. So my question is, did anyone else experience this random jump in LR after the LSAT Trainer/CC? Is it even possible that I was lucky 6 PTs in a row?....

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Ok so I’m on the first section of the CC reading comp but I have a few questions...

When I’m doing the problem sets should I go through them untimed or timed? E.g. should I do it timed using the memory method and then blind review it then watch JY? Or should I go untimed through using the memory method and be fully confident in my answers and then watch JY? I just don’t know how to get better in RC; it seems to be my worst section.

What are your guy’s suggestions?

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Hi guys, I am still having some trouble with grouping games. I am pretty good at inferences (diminishing number of worlds and not both/or) and can complete most grouping games but for some I am literally stumped and cannot make it past the acceptable situation questions. For example, ive had trouble with: June 1993 Game 4; june 1992 game 2; Decembr 1991 game 4.

Also I had a lot of trouble October 1991 game 4 (I believe this is in/out sequencing).

Is it possible im having trouble with these games because they are fairly old? Any tips on how to improve on these other than fool proofing? I find for these tough games fool proofing will work but when I run into another hard grouping game I still cant do it.

Any insight is much appreciated!

#help

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Im currently doing the LG bundle and im at PT8, right now most of the games are taking more than the target time and i dont get all the answers right for the most of them.. either i miss a rule, wrong gameboard and so on. Im kinda discouraged, will it eventually click.

PS: I am full proofing using Pacifico's method and my 2nd 3rd tries are way way better.

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Hello! I am currently studying for the September 2019 LSAT exam, this would be my second time taking the LSAT. I took the June exam and scored 150 on the dot, but I am aiming for my LSAT score to be 168+ because of my low gpa. I recently was offered an opportunity to go to South Africa for a mission trip for human right and justice, which I think would be a great addition to my resume and application. I did a mission trip to Ireland my Junior year of college but I have been out of school for a year and am applying for this cycle. My problem now is that the trip falls a about two weeks before the exam. I would be leaving sept 6 and returning sept 15 with the lsat exam following 5 days later on the 21st. I need to make this decision now if I will be attending the trip. I am very conflicted and would love some honest advice. Will this be a soft that substantial adds to my application especially with a a lower gpa and with hat being said is it worth going the 2 weeks before the September exam. Btw I was planning to study on the plane an print out a few questions to do when I can, or is it not a soft worth risking that time going so close to the exam? please please if anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate it thank you best!!

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So going back to prep 25 and up, I see a lot of games are more difficult and have more than 3 types of elements to account when solving these games. But more recent tests from 2007 and onward, games are not as hard as the ones i mentioned before. has it gotten easier in recent years or am i just not smart enough for the older exams and may see similar to older games in my upcoming lsat exam?

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Just to clarify, when O is playing tennis by itself, is it both the highest and lowest ranking player? Thanks!

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I’ve only taken one PT so far outside of my diagnostic. On LG I got -1 on BR and the one I missed I straight up rushed. I really enjoy LG mainly because my confidence level in the answers are so high since there isn’t an infinite way to create the right answer unlike LR.

On my two LR sections I got -15 blind review which is straight up disheartening. What is worse is that 9 out of the 15 wrong we’re missed in BOTH original PT and BR! So I picked two different answers and they were both wrong! Two stabs and two misses.

This tells me that my fundamental understanding is lacking. Out of the 6 NA types I got 1 right and 4 were wrong twice so at least I know I need to drill NA and watch the NA CC again. The other 5 double misses were all different question types.

I’ve watched the LR CC but have only done a handful of the drills. Obviously NA types I need to review and drill but what do I do about the other double misses? Double misses to me screams not truly understanding and since there were 6 different question types in the double wrongs I am getting very discouraged that my fundamentals are completely lacking.

Are double misses common?

How much time do you spend in BR for a LR section? I’ll have to time my LR BR next time but if I had to guess one section was maybe 30 minutes. Do you take the time to write out the why for reach AC in terms of wrong or right? Or do you look at it and cross through like you would a normal timed PT?

I want to maximize my study time. Any guidance or experience with double wrong is much appreciated.

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Are we allowed to ask for explanations for specific questions on the June 2019 LSAT? I'm working through them now and am stumped on one LR question.

Thanks a ton!

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