Hi everyone,

Sorry if this was mentioned somewhere before, like maybe in the CC, but I am really looking for an LR study strategy that is as thorough and ordered as the LG fool proof method (which I have began applying to RC using PTs 1-35)...

My average for LR is -10 to -11 timed and -6 to -7 in BR. I have done four full PTs and the analytics tell me that Flaw and NA are my worst areas. However, I have done a number of LR sections and had the same results with no clear pattern of question type that sticks out. Now, I have done the CC for LR twice at this point and really don't want to do it for a third time. Especially since I feel I have made improvements since doing it before (especially in relation to conditional logic.)

Some have told me just to drill different question types but I'm not sure what that means... How do I put them together? Do I start by doing them timed and then do BR? How many should I do and how often? If anyone has suggestions on how to design a structured and targeted LR study strategy, similar to the LG fool proof method, it would be greatly appreciated...

If any tutors are reading this, I am considering employing one to help me for the December and/or February LSAT - I definitely have to apply for this cycle, I have been at this almost full-time for one year now.

Thanks!

Although of all the sections I feel probably most secure about RC, I'd love to hear any suggestions of prep tests with particularly difficult RC passages.

Hey all,

So, like a lot of people it seems, I really struggled with the RC section of the Sept 2017 test and will almost certainly need to retake the test. However, since I already spent 5ish months studying and drilling for the September test, I only have 10-12 full PTs left. How do I space out these exams? How do I dill if I've already seen a lot of the questions before? Are there external sources that can help nail down RC?

So i recently refreshed my fundementals on these 2 question types and im running into and issue that,i think, LSAC is playing on.

According to JY NA ACs make a bridge or a block.

Wouldnt blocking a potential argument strengthen it? And similarily for bridging?

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Wondering if anybody on here has just taken the Sept 2017 LSAT in Australia? It is different from the US version and hoping to gain any insight into the experimental sections/any general thoughts you had !

I had 3 LR so i know that my LG and RC were real.

From what i can remember:

LG1: One layer sequencing game

Had a Condition that M-W.

R either first or 6th

LG2: Something with artefacts

LG3:[completely skipped as pressed for time]

LG4: Double layer sequencing game

Buildings being erected either Upper or Lower (Buildings FGHI)

RC:

-reading about kente woven fabric

-reading about whether chemistry and physics are linked

-reading about law systems in UK and technology

Any info about how many questions were in each of your LRs would be super helpful!

Thanks :))))

What is your pre-exam breakfast/drink plan?

Was the logic games section where one of the variables was Shakespearean something the real one or experienental?

Please note that the information below will change to reflect the information we get! Contribute if you can via the official September 2017 LSAT discussion (linked at the bottom of this thread) without going into too much detail. If you think something is wrong or should be added, please post in the thread and let me know.

Real Sections:

LG:

-Types of Food/Specials in Different Restaurants

-Students/Assignments

-Investigators/Suspects

-Films/Theatres

RC:

-Forests/Deforestation and Plantations

-Judges/Opinions

-Native American Language/Radio

-Directive/General Theories (Marx/Freud)

LR:

-Cars Sold to Junkyards for Parts

-Moose/Deer

-Jazz

-Crows Divebombing/Masks

-Raven Feeding Experiment

-Cuttlefish

-Acme Automotive

-Cost of Energy Use/Two Towns

-Perimeter Lights/Vandalism

-Nuts/Calories/Weight

-Disease X/Protein/Heart Disease

-Computer/Basic Skills

-Shakespeare Play

-Morally Right/Wrong Criteria/Revealing a Secret

-Gold Artifacts and Mines/China

-Beads Used as Currency

-Homophones

-Tarantula

-Pet Owner's Allergies

Experimental Sections:

LG:

-Violins/Instruments

-People/Cities

-Foresters

RC:

-Astronomy

-WWI Activist

-Louvre

-Pyramids

-Quantum Theory

LR:

Art Critic/Opera

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LG:

LR:

This thread is closed for discussion. Official post Sept. LSAT discussion stickied!

Hi,

I'm taking the test tomorrow and I only have a printer with black & white ink to print out my ticket. My photo looks fine...is it okay that my ticket isn't in color?

Hey guys,

I am almost finished with the CC, but I was just wondering how many of you actually watched all of the LR videos (ie. all the flaw question videos leading up to the problem sets). I have taken a course before that I didn't find to be helpful so I feel like watching 15 flaw videos aren't really helpful to me at this point since I have a pretty good understanding of watching just a few of the videos.

What have you guys done? Did you watch them only to become more familiar with how JY tackles a question or did you watch all of them? Or did you come back to them once you felt like you were still struggling with the problem sets?

Thanks :)

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Why 35 years ago fly the Atlantic?

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BECAUSE THAT CHALLENGE IS ONE THAT WE'RE WILLING TO ACCEPT

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I'll see you in Valhalla brothers (and sisters).

I find in the LR section that it's not a particular type of question that kills my score, but the timing. I notice that I get a few questions wrong in the dead center of the test and then the last few questions. In the middle of the test, I believe my mind tends to wander just to check the time and I get a little more stressed at that point when I realize how much time I have. This also happens at the end when they announce "5 minutes" are left because even though it is a lot of time, I feel like it never is.

Any advice on continuing to focus, without completely ignoring time?

LG is by far my worst section, I can probably get through 2 games.

I'm on a mission to do a TON of games before Sept but I am discouraged. I just don't think theres enough time to fool proof that many games.

I should have spent more of my time on LG..... :( Just venting ya'll this some serious baloney

Hey everyone,

So question 24 in section 2 of Prep Test 61.

This question I've been trying to grapple with for 3 days (seriously). I understand how conditionals work, but this question just doesn't work for me no matter how many times I do it, or listen to J.Y's explanation. I'm getting caught up on two things:

Here is the question:

Stimulus: It is unlikely that someone would see history as the working out of moral themes unless he or she held clear and unambiguous moral beliefs. However, one's inclination to morally judge human behavior decreases as one's knowledge of history increases. Consequently, the more history a person knows, the less likely that person is to view history as the working out of moral themes.

Stem: The conclusion of the argument is properly drawn if which one of the following is assumed?

So the right answer is:

B) The less inclined one is to morally judge human behavior, the less likely it is that one holds clear and unambiguous moral beliefs.

I actually got the right answer, but only through process of eliminating the wrong answers. I couldn't get full connection in this argument to get the answer as the missing sufficient assumption and it is driving me full out mad :)

The first thing that bothers me about this argument is the "unlikely" at the beginning, which I'm not sure exactly what to do with. The second thing is that the second premise [one's inclination to morally judge human behavior decreases as one's knowledge of history increases] does not ring to me as a conditional if/then type of sentence. I see that they are connected, but decreasing/increasing relationships aren't something I see fitting well into a conditional sentence sequence.

Secondly, even if I grant that this is a conditional statement, this is the logic drawing I end up with:

[P1] See history as working out of moral themes (SHWMT) ---> holds clear and unambiguous beliefs (HCUMB)

[P2] Morally judge human behavior decreases (MJHBd) ---> Knowledge of history increases (KHi)

[Conclusion] The more history a person knows (KHi) --> the less likely they are to view history as the working out of moral themes (/SHWMT)

So if I was to write this out in pure logic:

SHWMT --> HCUMB

MJHBd --> KHi

KHi --> /SHWMT

So even if I grant the weird statements around increasing/decreasing I still can't get from this to the missing premise:

The less inclined one is to morally judge human behavior (MJHBd) --> the less likely it is that one holds clear and unambiguous moral beliefs (/HCUMB)

MJHBd --> /HCUMB

I just can't wrap my head around this one as logically connecting in a sequence chain. Am I just having a brain stall?

Any thoughts @Sami ? :)

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-61-section-2-question-24/

Hi,

I'm having a lot of trouble eliminating D on this question, and would love some help if possible! My reasoning:

D) Was the species to which the recently discovered [earlier] dinosaur [X] belonged related to T. rex?

If yes, and T. rex descended from X, this seems to strengthen the author's argument as it suggests that the T. rex features evolved in an earlier ancestor that evidently did not require them for its size. In this scenario the features would have just been passed down to the T. rex, offering an alternate explanation to the scientists' hypothesis and strengthening the author's argument.

If no, and the T. rex and X were unrelated, I feel like this would weaken the author's argument as it would make it difficult to compare the two dinosaurs. Even if X did not evolve these features to support its size, T. rex still may have and it's just a coincidence that they are similar. This would leave us back where we started as the author's evidence for calling the scientists' hypothesis into question is now irrelevant.

Any help clearing this up would be greatly appreciated, I've spent way too long on this question :P

I'm not too sure what to do, I mean, I'm not doing PTs yet - I just want to focus on improving on each section before starting ahead w the PTs. Should I just keep working away at sections from PTs for LR? Is that the best way to improve?

I am currently finishing the section in about 36.45 minutes. I have just started drilling RC today after realising my issue with the timing.

When I do individual passages I usually do it in 9-10 minutes with -0 but with timed sections it's closer to -5 or -6.

I'm also worried about bubbling in the answers within the 35 minutes, as right now i spend close to 4m on reading and about 6 min with the answers which gives me hardly enough time to even finish all the questions :(

I'm slightly worried, I'm planning to take the December Lsat, is it possible for me to reach my goal of -2 within time by then?

Any strategies, turning points stories would be great!

Thanks :)

Well, over 20 test centers in Florida have cancelled their administration of Saturday's test. LSAC has confirmed that there will be a makeup scheduled. Is anyone familiar with the protocol for makeup exams? What does the curve for a makeup exam look like? Any information you have about what to expect is much appreciated! Thanks in advance!

Updated 9/14 1:40 p.m.

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Just wondering what you guys look oit for whilst reviewing tape

Hi friends,

After reviewing some mistakes from one last practice test and making sure I got my stuff down, I decided that these next two days (Thursday and Friday) will be LSAT hiatus for me. I am a firm believer in resting my mind before standardized tests. Before I log off, I just want to say I wish you all the very best. I know many of us are going in on Saturday with our minds ready for this to be over.

As someone who has been studying for this test for over a year and has put her heart and soul in it, I've come to realize this. People who study for this test are truly brave and ambitious souls. This web platform is fantastic and I'm truly greatful for the advice I've been getting. Thank you to 7sage especially JY and Dillon.

All the very best to all of you. Be kind to yourselves when you go in there tomorrow and know that if you've done everything you can to prepare, you're good to go.

Peace,

Shireen.

Hey all! Just like the title says, I am starting to get more and more curve-breaker questions and then I begin to severely overthink some of the easier questions and miss them. Has this happened to anyone else? Anyone else have any tips?

Thanks!

Should we see something similar in PT 82 on Sat? ... Is there any sort of a pattern or just varies? ... Prepare for the worst I guess?

Hey folks. I've been averaging about 173/174 on the more recent PTs, but I've noticed that as I improve on the games and the LR, my reading comprehension scores have been dropping (from about -0/-2 per section to about -3/-5). I've almost exclusively been missing main point questions (?!) and author inference questions. Any tips as to what I ought to keep in mind as I tackle these specific question types? I'm so close to where I want to be on this test, and I'm grateful for the help.