This MBT question really threw me for a loop because of the bi-conditional. In this particular question I think it is the "unique, whenever" that indicates that it is a bi-conditional. I am aware of these 4 indicators from the core curriculum:

-if and/but only if

-...but otherwise

-....except

But since this question didn't utilize any of these,-- I am now wondering if there are any other bi-conditional indicators not listed here? Also, does anyone know of other logical reasoning questions that use bi-conditionals?

Thanks so much!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-82-section-4-question-23/

Anyone else get an undergrad degree in something other than philosophy? I know this test doesn't require outside knowledge, but I'm sure knowing some aspects of formal logic definitely helps. Any thoughts on this? If anyone sought outside logic sources, what were some good books you've read?

TWO QUESTIONS TO ASK! Thank you in advance!

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So I did write the December test but I have already registered to write the Feb one.

RC has been my weakest section and I honestly thought I had it down until I started doing some of the newer PTs.

How would you guys recommend going about this? I was planning on doing one to two passages untimed for the next couple of weeks and then start timing in January. I was fairly decent on doing the earlier RC passages untimed (-3/-5 on a section) . Though, I noticed a drastic change in my score when approaching the 60s and 70s.

What do you guys recommend? What has worked for you?

I started this LSAT journey with a quick pass through of the Kaplan logical reasoning approach and, honestly, there were still some pretty gaping holes in my comfort with logical reasoning translation. At first, I felt like the 7sage approach helped a lot... it is much more mechanical and requires memorization of those four groups and the translation strategy. This worked well for me while going through the initial lessons, but now that it's all mixed together, I am realizing that it's just not intuitive for me to translate the group 3 and 4 words so mechanically.

For example, I find it much easier to treat UNLESS as a logical indicator for the necessary term. Then, I simply replace the word "unless" with my arrow and negate the sufficient term (this was the part I often forgot while doing the Kaplan practice problems). However, Kaplan's way definitely made things easier when the sentence also contains a negative, so a group 4 word. In that case, it means what it is... that term is just a negative term. I don't have to flip things or rearrange the sentence to translate it.

My question is, if I treat "unless" and "without" in the way that Kaplan explained it to me, do I need to ignore the whole entire 7sage translation system? Or, I guess to say that differently, I am specifically wondering about translating in groups 3 and 4. Has anyone else found these two approaches conflicting or am I just looking at it the wrong way?

Hey! I’m starting to foolproof games now and I was wondering if and why it’s necessary to keep your old game papers and setups as opposed to just the data? Do you ever go back and look at ur game setups ? Thanks!

I have studied with power score in the past and have taken blueprint as well. Powerscore LR says to read stimulus first and then the question but blueprint is the other way around ( read question then stimulus). What is your take/suggestion?

I'm pretty sure I didn't do very well on the Dec LSAT. My average PT score dropped 10 points a month before the test (I was devastated) and it didn't vastly improve before test day. I'm wondering what my chances of getting in my back-up school are if my GPA is over their 75% and LSAT is under their 25% (by two points, which is where I'm thinking I'll land after scores come out). My resume includes a lot of volunteer work, leadership awards and positions, and work experience. I worked through undergrad and am currently working full time as the HR coordinator of a large physicians practice (I'm interested in health care law).

Any thoughts or advice? Is it even worth applying if my LSAT ends up under the school's 25%?

If I don't decide to cancel, and I submit some applications now, but then later find out that God forbid perhaps my December score is lower than my previous one, would that affect how the admissions see my application?

Does anyone do the Blind Review Method without getting a second copy of the test? Or is the method more effective with a second copy?

Like many, I hate RC. It's my worst section. I was wondering if any of you have any advice on how to isolate and focus on RC studying between weekly preptests? For LG, I fool proof past games and for LR, I just review old questions and target problem areas/question types. These two methods seem to be working well for me as I've made considerable progress.

However, besides using the memory method, I have no idea how to begin isolating RC practice. Feigning interest in the passage topic somewhat helps a little bit but it's not enough for me to really speed up my reading and increasing my accuracy when it comes to tackling the questions. Currently I'm more so worried about accuracy and confidence during RC practice rather than speed.

Any pieces of advice are welcome! Xx

PrepTest 23.Section 3.Game3.Q18 (https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-32-section-3-game-3/)

Questions like 18 always get me confused. I was able to narrow R down to 6 and 7 fine, but after that, I just didn’t know where to go. None of the other rules seemed immediately relevant, and then I started stressing out because I didn’t know where to go from there.

The way JY explained it made complete sense but it would have been a huge time sink for me. I.e. making the inference that if R goes into 7, then we remember our rule that S can’t go into 6 or 4, which means P & S must go into 1 and 3, which means T won’t be able to go before F or after R. As I am very new to logic games, interpreting or making all those inferences in my head in a short amount of time has been really hard for me. This did not come naturally to me and I was completely stuck -__-

Does anybody have advice for a question like this where, once you get to a certain point it becomes very open-ended (i.e. multiple slots open with no immediately obvious rule to jump to)? Is it really just trial and error?

I am aware that this is a relatively easy game but I am struggling with LG in general lol

Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone took yesterday's Sabbath observer test and if yes if anyone knows which RC was real

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Hi! Need some advice what you think would be better? I’ve been studying for some time now so I’m not new to games and for the most part my games section score is usually between -2 and -5. I’m starting studying again now for Feb so I would like to set up a game plan. Thanks all!

Hey everyone!

I hope everyone is recovering from Saturdays test well... I feel so lost not studying!

I was wondering if anyone could tell me what the protocol is for issuing a complaint about a proctor and their assistant?! I wrote in Ontario, and my proctor and his assistant were so bad and so so disruptive... I'm so disappointed because I'm so worried that I couldn't focus on my second section (LR).

Basically what happened was the assistant walked out of the room during the test and somehow got locked out... and when the proctor tried to go let them back in, he couldn't. So there was a bunch of banging. If you imagine yourself trying to pull open or push open a door that is locked, multiple times, then thats exactly what happened during Saturdays test. I couldn't believe it... and I still can't!

Any and all help would be greatly appreciated :)

Trying desperately to figure out which of my LR sections was experimental. Those of you who had only two LR sections: do you remember having a Justify question about how kids aren't going to grow up to be into literature b/c of the prevalence of T.V.?

Is there any real difference for translation of typically vs often? For example:

"Typically, winners of Nobel prize for science are not motivated at all by love of discovery."

"And unlike professional scientists, who are often motivated by economic necessity or a desire for fame, amateur scientists..."

I've been translating both as "some" but I'm sort of questioning if it's a stronger "most" or even "all"?

So, I'm foolproofing LG and I am doing it by difficulty. So, I'm starting with simple ordering and am almost finished with that section. I feel like I'm getting better but that's not showing in timing and accuracy wise on the first attempt. So, when did you all who foolproof started doing better?

Burn your LSAT materials.

You're done!

It feels real good!

Rituals are nice!

https://i.imgur.com/qECzDxQ.jpg

Hey guys! Here's the official December LSAT Discussion Thread. Please keep all discussions of the December 2017 LSAT here!

Here's some ground rules, taken from my usual sticky:

We know that everyone will be excited to discuss what was on the Dec. '17 LSAT, but mentioning specifics about the test (e.g., "I got B for question 6" or "the 3rd LG was sequencing") can get both us and you in a lot of trouble with LSAC. Saying that the test was hard/easy without going into detail is okay, but anything more specific is not okay. LSAC monitors this forum.

If you're unsure what may be too specific, feel free to PM me with what you'd like to post.

The only exception is you can say which sections were real or experimental. For example, the LG with "flowers" was experimental. That's okay.

TL;DR: PLEASE don't talk specifics about December's LSAT!

Here's where you can see the current Real/Experimental Sections:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/13991/december-2017-lsat-real-experimental-sections-keywords

Have fun discussing!

Hey All, I want to file a complaint against my proctor for my LSAT. Can you let me know if I have a valid case?

During the test, when I was taking the LG section. She called the 5 minute marker, 5 minutes earlier than it was suppose to be. After the end of the 5 min marker, she recalled her earlier statement and said that we had 5 mins again. This event seriously threw me off the test, I was not able to get pass the last LG question, which is usually my strongest section. I want to complain to LSAC, but I don't want my score to be cancelled since I still want to know how I did. I also don't want to just delay the test because I was planning on applying this semester. Please any advice will be appreciated. Thank you!

Any pre post during lsat - funny stories? Share them here!

Is it true that step 3 and 6 are the same? We, twice, have to piece together the information?

Hi Guys,

I just have a question for weakening / flaw answer choices. Although there is some over lap between the two, I know that they are distinct and I understand how to approach them differently. However, sometimes I have difficulty distinguishing the KEY difference between their answer choices. For example, if a answer choice in a weakening questions presents a flaw can that be the right answer choice? In other words, what are they key differences in their respected answer choices.

Thanks,

Nas

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