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Basic question: How many PT's should I be doing every week when I'm about 4 weeks out from the test?
Background: I am taking the in class Nathan Fox LSAT class, which goes from May 12th to June 3rd. The class advocates blind reviewing as well as the fundamentals of 7Sage, so I know there most likely won't be a problem there. His class, however, has us taking 1 PT a week. Should I add more into the mix or just review?
I jokingly started saying I was going to be a lawyer about a year ago. Towards the end of February I found out that our local law school was accepting applications for next fall until July 7th and would accept the June LSAT. So I made the decision I was going to try getting in this fall. I have no aspirations to go to Harvard or Yale or anything like that so I figured it shouldn't be too hard to get a decent score and get into the local school. So the first week of March I took a PT and scored a 153. This was inflated because the logic games should have been a 0 as I was completely lost. At the time I was scheduled to fly to Japan for a vacation and I brought along the LSAT Trainer which I heard good things about. I read a few chapters and I started to feel a bit more comfortable with the way the LSAT works. I still was pretty lost with the games so I started searching and of course thats how I found 7Sage. At first I was going to just use the free games reviews but I like to support helpful things so I decided to purchase the starter package since I only had a few months anyway I wouldn't get through the ultimate package. Fast forward to now about 7 weeks into my LSAT training and I've consistently been hitting the 160s with my highest being a 165 last night. Logic games have become my strength and reading comp my weakness the exact opposite of my diag. I really want to hit a 165 during the June test but a 160 would probably get me in.
As I browse these forums for inspiration I don't find many people posting their scores or their full stories so I wanted to hopefully give some people inspiration if you're just starting out or to find advice from those farther along.
My current study regime is a 3 day cycle, day one is a PT plus BR/review, day two and three I do one set of logic games, reading comprehension, and drill a LR type. I'm not saying this is the best way to go about it but it's been working for me. I work full time so I squeeze some practice during work and finish up after. I feel confident in most games so i just do them to maintain. The LR I could improve but like the reading comp it's all about mental toughness for me, I can't stop daydreaming in the middle of a passage. I recently started marking up passages as I read them sort of like how JY does it except mine are mostly nonsense scribbles but it has helped because I'm more focused in the passage although my markings hardly help at all.
Anyway hope this helps someone or at least gives insight to how someone is going about this whole crazy LSAT journey, right or wrong.
Does anyone know the last time a logic game like PT #11, game 4 or PT#12 game four appeared on the LSAT?
So I'm about to register for the June LSAT (still not full in my area) and I would like some advice. I wrote the test last June and am planning on writing this June, making this my second attempt. My goal isn't just to get a "good enough score" and move on. As a result, I plan on writing in June and expecting a low 160, then writing again in October to get a 170+. As you may have already anticipated, here is the issue: October will be my last attempt and I won't be able to write again until June 2016.
So, should I not write in June (and not risk doing poorly) and write in October, giving me the option of December? Or should I write in June, risk doing poorly, then write in October?
And for context, I am only applying to Canadian schools with November application deadlines, so I understand that a December write will mean a month of possibly not being accepted, although I highly doubt that will matter as I will indicate on the application that I will write on that date and thus have it held for that relatively short time period.
http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-26-section-1-game-4/
When first attempting this game, my instinct was to make a game board that included year one and year two. When I watched the video, I noticed JY made two templates without paying attention to whether either of them was year one or year two, and I thought his strategy was very good. I'm wondering how he knew to ignore the year one/year two aspect of the game when he made the templates.
hey everyone ,
I've been studying for the lsat for a while and plan on taking the test in June but I've been stuck in the late 140s -early 150s... I'd really love some advice on how to jump up into atleast the 160s ... I'm also wondering if this would be possible to even do with little over a month left until test day?
I was wondering if anyone has found a way that works best to approach these question types? If so, PLEASE share.
Any ideas about how to keep it together for the 2-4 hours before the 12 pm test? With the 8 am test - you just get up and go - but I'm a bit worried about what to do with my time before the LSAT.
Mainly...how do I not ruin my day before I go in to take the test?
If anyone is interested please PM me. I already took the exam and scored a 145. I believe it was because I was nervous because I was scoring in the 150's during my practice test. I am looking to score a 160 +
Has anyone heard of/use a reading strategy where you don't read the question stems in LR and simply figure out the question type via stimulus? If so, is it effective?
Does anyone else experience this? I feel so solid/ full of energy on the first 3 sections, then when it comes time for the break, I feel so sluggish. Anyone have a suggestion to combat this?
Can someone please correct me if I'm wrong? From what I've collected I print out 10 copies of a LG from the syllabus, then I do one under extremely loose time constraints, then I do them over and over until I can complete the game in 5 minutes. Then choose a different game and repeat? Thanks!
Hi,
I tried to search the discussions, but I can't seem to find the thread for the hardest LG.
I have just finished the bundle and I want to go through them, but I lost my list of the ones I thought were the hardest!
Right now I have:
Prep Test 19, Question 3
Prep Test 31, Question 2
Prep Test 31, Question 4
Prep Test 34, Question 1
Prep Test 34, Question 4
Does anyone want to add to this list? Thanks!
If anyone is looking for supplemental practice (in addition to actual LSAT questions) in identifying assumptions and in strengthening or weakening arguments, I suggest looking at the essay prompts for the GMAT:
The website lists more than 100 prompts that could be used as essay topics on the GMAT. Each prompt presents a weak argument that makes unsupported assumptions. The test-taker is supposed to identify the assumptions and recommend ways to strengthen or weaken the argument.
This is also helpful if you are also applying to business school and need to take the GMAT. :)
Hi all,
I am struggling with RC. Recently, I bought LSAT Trainer. It is really helping me. I am wondering if I should buy Manhattan RC book as well. I heard both books were written by the same writer. Are these two books pretty much similar? Should I buy Manhattan RC? I really appreciate your time and cooperation.
Hi folks!
We all know the importance of taking and reviewing PTs. For me, I absolutely dread RC review. It sucks! I found myself needing an utterly systematic approach just to make sure I stay on track for this section. Most of you probably already do this and/or there's been a similar post in the past, but if not, I find the following process quite helpful. I'll share it here (and also ask for feedback re: other strategies you've found effective):
1) I blind review as normal, referring back to the passage occasionally -- of course, this method is always great, but I find it inadequate on its own (mostly because I am a smug, overconfident flake and I don't often end up revising anything when I really, really should). Hence:
2) I watch the passage analysis. To get to this video without seeing the answers, I insert the site URL directly.* http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-[PT#]-section-[#]-passage-[#]-passage/
The answers are at the bottom of the video, so don't scroll down! 7Sage, among other things, has been great for my self-discipline :-D
3) Depending on my comfort level with the passage, I listen to J.Y. at up to 1.4X speed. I make notes to keep focused, either for reinforcement or revision, but usually I find he's compelling enough that I don't get as bored as I was when first reading. And usually (okay, fine, all the time) I've found I missed something, big or small (hopefully small), in my own analysis.
4) Armed with this passage review, I tackle the questions again. Second (third?) time through is definitely smoother and much faster. Then, finally, I scroll down and check my answers. If, after all of this, I still got questions wrong, (s)I crawl into a corner and cry(/s) I rehash the question and watch the explanation.
5) Rinse and repeat!
There. That's what I do. Not sure how much of it will be helpful, but I certainly hope it is! If I can trouble you for your own RC review strategies, tips & hints, perhaps we can find the ultimate way to destroy this section in 2 months' (!!!) time.
Happy Easter weekend!
*for peeps enrolled in the course only
could also bookmark the relevant links before PT-taking
Hi,
Just a general post requesting info from those who like RC /score consistently/ or have improved significantly. I have heard of two types of RC folks - who started out from their diagnostic in RC doing REALLY well and have since fallen from grace. Or those who started out doing not so well and are still doing not so well.
I feel like there is a giant, extremely invisible elephant in the room regarding RC that we are all missing. I would just like to hear some success stories or unusual tips. I know there is a ton of advice regarding different guides and such and I have gone through it with little success. But what has worked in real time? It would be comforting to know that there is at least one 7Sager who loves RC and is scoring -0 to -2 consistently. Where are you?
I appreciate it! I just want to solve the RC mystery to eat up some time in between drilling RC for the rest of my days...
If I plan on studying logic games for this whole month then what is a good amount of number of games to play per day? I was thinking of going over 8 games a day. I pretty much understand plain sequencing games but in some games like the in/out games you need to know about biconditionals and the demorgan's law, so I need to go back on that little section on advanced logic before I start playing some of the games. I am getting pretty well with the use of "or" and "not both" rules too. So would 8 games a day be enough or should I go for more? I think 8 is a good number to start with. If anyone wants to let me know there strategies then please share. I am planning on retaking the june lsat, and games is my worst section. But I heard that its the easiest to improve so even if I get 15 right on every other section, and get about 20 right for games then hopefully I can get a 150 or above. The last time I enrolled for 7sage, I didn't really spend much time studying the material so I ended up with a 140 so I really hope I can get 10 points or more on the test. So please suggest what is a good idea to go forth with games. Thanks.
Hi Everyone,
I have already purchased all Lsat prep tests. But I am looking for a resource that has these games grouped into types. Since I'm still a beginner, I am still trying to master the basic sequencing games. Would anyone know if someone has already compiled all those games into some sort of list or PDF?
Thanks!
Hey 7Sagers!
So today, I decided to officially register myself for the June 2015 sitting but was in for a surprise. I realized that the place where I wanted to take the Exam, Georgetown LC (where I currently study), was all full. This is shocking because I've seen it been open even until the month before, but I guess it was super popular this time around.
Does anyone know any other good exam sites in the DMV area? Also, I feel like it would be really helpful to everyone if we all shared where we previously taken our exams and if you recommended it to everyone! (not just in DC, but anywhere!)
Although I've heard that test locations matter, the attorney that I work with said that she took her LSAT (and her bar exam) at UMD- College Park, which is known to be a less-than-optimum location...but she ended up at HLS and said that in the end, it's just an exam center. So we shouldn't think too much into it, but i'm sure it will help!
If you want to join PM me with your Skype name.
So I do not want to constantly open new discussion threads for logic games, I think it is best to make this just one and if anyone else has their own questions just keep posting here and we can all try to answer each others questions. (Just a suggestion :-) )
Preptest 7, Feb 1993 LSAT Logic Games kicked my butt today ! In particular Logic Game 3, (7 Judges, In & Out Game)
http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-7-section-2-game-3/
After reviewing I realized how splitting the game board makes the game so much more easier. But here is where I am still kinda stuck.
Rule 1.) If the two conservatives and at least one liberal voted the same way as each other, then both moderates voted that way.
I initially diagramed this as
If CCL -->MM
IF not MM-> not CCL
But when I saw the video of JY explaining the rules he labeled the contrapositive as
If not CCL -> not MM (little confused why he did it that way, is that not against the arrow?)
Can y'all please help me explain this? I watched the video a few times, but the numbers method that JY explained..is just not really iron clad proof for me, or at least I'm not really understanding it.
http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-62-section-4-question-16/
I played around with some other numbers, and that didn't really add up to the conclusion.
PT --> E
B some E
B some not E
Conclusion: #E > #not E
JY used 100 for both PT and B. That adds up and makes sense. However, I switched the numbers for PT and B to 50 and 100, respectively. So let's say some B out of 100 is 40, then 50 PT + some B (40) = 90. What's left of B thats not E are 60... 90 > 60 in conclusion, that is correct, but 50 PT and 100 B is not the same.
Thanks!
http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-27-section-1-question-21/
This is a NA question... One of my least favorites! Could somebody tell me how they approached this question to get B?
I actually crossed out B because of it's ending stating that "...top gov't officials"
NA =subtle assumptions. I think it's late and my brain needs rest lol
But I chose D because of "most effective" but once I BR I knew this answer choice was too strong to be an NA AC. And since it also starts out with "Of all"
The June LSAT is at 12:30 pm; does anyone have suggestions for how to optimally set your internal clock?
Since January, I have been waking up around 5 am in order to get focused study time in before work. I'm a natural night owl, so these days I am drifting back into a later bedtime. Does anyone have thoughts on how your internal clock affects your alertness/ energy? Should I continue to discipline myself to wake up super early for this final stretch (as opposed to suddenly starting to study at night)?
Thanks!
