Hey guys, I'm planning on taking the LSAT in February. Would like to form study partners in Phoenix area. email fawzinur1@gmail.com

Dear 7Sagers,

Thanks to the community and the great material here on 7sage I received a very pleasing 160 on the November LSAT Flex.

I tell you because I’ve seen a lot of discouragement and disappointment in the forum on score release day!

I first took August 2020, got a 154, score preview cancelled that score.

Second I took September, I got the shredder game (look it up) I bombed LG, ended up with a 151 on my permanent LSAT record.

I have averaged 158, across 30 PT’s and am fairly consistently improving... when this 151 came, I was very disappointed but I jumped back in right away for November!

I took the test 11/10/20, afternoon.

Program shut down in the middle of RC passage, someone also knocked on my door which was distracting. But I pushed through... kept focus as much as possible.

I got a 160 score today. I am so delighted.

All this to say, I felt hopeless a few weeks ago, but I started drilling games, doing 8-10 games a day. I have thoroughly worked and understand at least 80% of all games! I explain them to anyone who will listen. I really visualize.

As for strategy, imagine your score with a -0 on games, which you may be able to achieve by the January 16th administration! Work your games, read some passages and outline them to yourself! You can recover from a dropped score! I did! I believe in you! Message me if you need any help!!

All Best!

Heather

I have been studying for a few months and now average 169 - 170 in my prep tests. A few weeks ago I sat down and did a usual prep test but got a 178, which was my highest score yet.

However, the 2 prep test after that amazing score were both 167, which was subpar for my admission goals. This high and low kinda shattered my confidence, but I got a 169 on my prep test yesterday. It’s a good score, but still not sufficient.

I am at a point where I know I have the skill to do well, but its my mentality that is put to the test every time. I am sure I will face harder challenges than this is Law School, so this is good preparation.

Im taking the LSAT in October and hope I can produce a consistent and high enough score. Have anyone else experimented something like this? And how did you improve after it?

Thank you!

Phoenix Yuan

I've been studying for months now and am not improving on reading comprehension. Lately I've actually been doing worse than usual. It may be because of burnout, but I was wondering if anyone had any tips or strategies that made them improve their RC score.

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Hi everyone,

I posted a discussion earlier in my prep about PT 36 S2 Q16, which remarked on how the right answer inferred from the phrase "discussions of" and the fact that it is a passage regarding science that whatever they are discussing is earlier research. I don't agree with it, but that's the LSAT. And it was still the best answer because the other answers can be eliminated with the text.

http://classic.7sage.com/forums/discussion/113/pt36-s2-q16#Item_3

I just did PT 54, on which I came across a related issue: S1 Q8.

The question says all of the answers are supported by the passage EXCEPT. I haven't graded it yet, but I picked C, which says "there has been some study of the environmental effects of drilling-mud discharges." But E also is not supported, and it is directly a S/N condition switch, which in my experience is frequently tested. (E) says "during the drilling of an oil well, drilling mud is continuously discharged into the sea" whereas the passage merely says that the only time the discharge happens is when an oil well is being drilled, not that drilling always means there's discharge. So that is clearly the right answer. But why is C incorrect? Is it for the same nebulous reason as PT36 S2 Q16? The passage is discussing a science related issue, and I know that hydraulic fracturing has been studied in the real world, and generally facts of the sort that the passage provides would be hard to generate without some sort of study, but specifically that the environmental effects? I'm really not so sure this has support. It's obviously an inferior answer to E, but I wouldn't say that it is "supported" by the passage. I'd say it has some support from the passage but certainly cannot be logically inferred. This is compounded by the fact that the other answer choices besides E can be logically inferred from the passage.

A-line 13

B-line 41

D-line 49

Actually, I just realized at line (23) it says "one problem with studying" which probably means there has been studies, maybe. Not sure. Any thoughts? That line could just as easily justify that no studies have been done since it is so difficult. Am I to assume that all difficult things have been done? Or perhaps that all things that are attempted qualify as have "some" done of it? Probably. This post seems to have sorted itself out, but you'll have another take on it. I'll post anyway.

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Hi everyone!

I'm writing the October test and hoping for a 170+. I feel like I'm close but really need to improve my timed accuracy. For example, my two most recent PTs were 168 timed and 173 BR & 166 timed and 177 BR. If you've been in a similar position I'd love to hear how you improved!!

Thanks in advance :)

Hi I was wondering if anyone else had significant trouble with doing better in their reading comp section, and if there are any study tips as far as RC goes to help improve!

Yes nothing is exclusive

Yes some have scored 160 on a diagnostic and are ok ✅

BUTTTTT for the rest of us

All things being equal

This has motivated me within.

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Pearls are a healed wound.

Pearls are a product of pain, the result of a foreign or unwanted substance entering the oyster, such as a parasite or a grain of sand. 

The inside of an oyster shell is a shiny substance called nacre.  When a grain of sand enters the nacre cells go to work and cover the grain of sand with layers and more layers to protect the defenseless body from the oyster. As a result a beautiful oyster is formed! 

An oyster that has not been wounded in any way cannot produce pearls, because a pearl is a healed wound.”

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January has turned out to be the largest test administration of this cycle with over 40,000 people registered and as such there are many first time test takers as well as people that have taken a Flex test previously but are still not too familiar with the format so I thought I would create a post.

Here are some important things to know:

There are multiple different versions of the test. In some of the previous Flex administrations we have seen more than 50 different versions of the test.

Order does not matter. So all those posting their order in the January discussion thread, you are not helping anyone nor are you potentially trying to gauge your perception of how well you did. You may even be accidently hurting others who are looking to fellow test takers to get a better idea of how they may have done on the test When you post that you had the order of: LR- LG- RC and you write about how how LR was the hardest section you have ever had maybe the section you had was difficult but someone else who had the exact same order as you had a different and easier LR section and now they think that the questions went right over their head and are cancelling their test.

There is multiple different curves- Depending on content, there will be at least several different curves. Previous estimates on past curves have ranged from -7 to -10

All Flex tests are non disclosed so we won't see questions or really know how we did

Here is what we can and can not discuss on the January discussion thread:

We can discuss topics. You could list the topics of the games or RC passages for example.

You can say something like I found the questions about dinosaurs, Plato, and birds flying to be the trickiest questions or questions you thought you got wrong

By listing topics you may be able to find other test takers who had the same section as you and get their perspective as to overall difficulty, hardest questions ect though you can't say something like I answered question #15 with B, did you?

We can't discuss game type or question type

Hi everyone,

How have games changed since the start of the LSAT? I have began to work my way from the latest to the newest and have noticed that some of the earliest ones are very difficult to comprehend and diagram. Im hoping that the wording has improved significantly since then.

Thanks in advance for your comments!

Weakening Question

I identified 3 premises here:

Conclusion: Polls during the week leading up to an election should be banned.

Goal: Find answers that show why one of the premises isn´t true, or why we shouldn´t believe the conclusion to be true.

Answers:

A. Few people are influenced by polls in the 2 weeks leading up to elections. THIS INCLUDES 1 WEEK LEADING UP TO THE POLL!!! I completely skipped over that obvious implication originally, but see now why it makes sense.

B. Uneven - too specific. What about close elections?

C. Remove motivation actually strengthens.

D. Gains in popularity - who cares? Irrelevant.

E. Informed citizens is a stretch to unaffected citizens. Also the comparison is weak - this is ONE country, and we don´t know anything about it.

My takeaway: Don´t read over answer choices too quickly. Maybe try to visualize even abstract answers and concepts like time - in this case, picture a timelines with a dot representing election. Scribbled out right before it is the 1 week without elections. Answer A says 2 weeks right before, there is no influence. I KNEW I could be looking for an answer showing polls don´t affect citizens, so think about how a bigger line right before your election dot would overlap with the part scribbled out, and see how A is actually giving you about a strong point about the 1 week before.

What was the best way to see LR improvement? I started out really strong on PT's (for me) getting like -3. Now I get -5 to -8 and it is extremely frustrating. I'm trying to drill weak points, but I am kind of all over the board. Does anyone have good tips for how to see improvement (I study for 4 hours every day and am hoping there is a solution that will show results)? Thank you!!

Anxiously waiting for my November LSAT results in about a week. IM NERVOUS

Hi everyone,

I submitted my LSAT Writing assignment on November 3rd, and on my LSAC portal it is marked as “Completed.” However, it still hasn’t been approved and is not showing as available for schools yet.

Today is already November 11th, so it’s been more than a week. I know LSAC sometimes takes longer to review the writing sample, but I’ve seen posts from people saying theirs got approved within 1–2 days. That’s making me a bit nervous.

If the status is “Completed,” do I still need to worry? Has anyone else had a long delay between “Completed” and “Approved”?

Thanks!

As is well know, and is often characterized humorously, adults who spend considerable hours working with small children may then speak to other adults in the same language structure and vocabulary as they used speaking with children. Therefore, co-workers who usually communicate with each other with different language structure and vocabulary will sometimes adopt the some of the other person's language structure and vocabulary.

Which of the following statement is most parallel to the above premise's INFORMAL logic:

a) When speaking to other adults, a person studying for the LSAT communicates to others in the same language structure and vocabulary as LSAT stimuli.

b) Humans who effectively communicate with each other sometimes adopt the other person's language structure and vocabulary.

c) I like turtles.

d) When being spoken to by other adults, a person studying for the LSAT is communicated to in the same language structure and vocabulary as LSAT stimuli.

e) Therefore, people who speak to other adults in the same language structure and vocabulary as they used speaking with children should receive extra mental breaks.

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Blind Review summary

a) correct answer, even though the LSAT does not test for parallel premises informal logic parallel.

b)Nope, but could be a great answer if the stimuli was for a sufficient assumption.

c)Off topic (in case you don't get the reference )

d) a trap response by reversing answer choice (a)

e) Nope, but could be a conclusion to an inference question.

Does anyone know of any classes from the tutors that would focus on difficult grammar parsing and double-negatives or other things like that? Those ones tend to trip me up, and I'm looking for a way to improve. All the classes seem to be focused on specific question types, but that may not be what I'm looking for.

So I now have a binder several inches thick that holds all of my games. I try to do AT LEAST 5 games a day on top of the rest of my life and all those sheets have added up. But the real problem is that without me doing some really intense work, I have no way to quickly and easily look at my aggregate games data. I think it would be great if 7sage could add a feature where I could select a game (ex. PT 66, game 2) and then I would enter the time I took to finish the game and my answers. Then 7sage could show me all the stats about that game and all my other games too. I could see past scores/times for certain games. It could even keep track of different question types (new/substitute rule, MBT, MBF, could be true, etc.) so I could even tailor my prep down to the question. I think it wouldn't be too too difficult to implement because 7sage already has all the Q-types in their system. Anyways just a thought.

I just was going over RRE questions in BR and a strategy came to mind on how to eliminate or pick answer confidently. I would say most, if not all, RRE questions are asking one to explain why something is different or despite them seeming different, why they are similar.

In the process of BR, I found this approach to be helpful: step one, depending on if one is looking for a difference or a similarity, make sure the correct aspect is present in the AC; step two, ask WHY this difference/similarity is important.

I write this because I've seen a trend where I get stuck between two or three ACs on hard RRE questions. I know exactly what I am looking for in the realm of differences or similarities, which usually leaves two or three left, but then I get stuck because LSAC writes the diff/simi cleverly. Taking a second and asking "why is it important" has made me totally and confidently eliminate answer choices that looked correct to me before I asked it. Asking "why?" seems to focus my thinking on how the AC's proposition is relevant in its attempts to fix the problem more clearly then just reading it and seeing how it "sounds" when pushed back to the stimulus.

I'm not sure if everyone else already does it this way, but I thought I would share what helped me.

Thanks and study hard!

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Any chance there will be another LR workshop hosted by J.Y. or someone else?