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Last comment monday, sep 11 2017

Font Size - Actual Test

Just wondering if the font size of the actual test is the same as when I print 7sage PTs?

The font size of the 7sage PTs are slightly smaller than the font on PTs from official LSAC books/resources (as least in my opinion).

Anyone have any insight on this? Thanks!

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Hey guys!

So I am almost done the CC, hopefully by the end of this week. I was just wondering how many of you have approached the next step in your studying? I have done most problem sets for the question types, however I have found myself struggling or not getting as many correct as I would like for some question types when it came to the three or four star questions. Is this common or is it just me and how did you guys over come this?

I plan to write in December and want to aim for the high 160s. I have not completed a PT yet (other than the diagnostic), but I intend on doing that once I am done the CC just to see if there's an improvement.

So basically, what I am trying to ask I guess is...

How have you started to PT after the CC?

What was your study schedule after completing the CC?

Did you do 3 preptests a week? with BR after each PT

or Drill as much as I can after the CC (too fool proof all sections) and then start PT's more frequently?

or drill along with doing 2 PT's a week?

My schedule is pretty flexible, but I just want to know what has worked for you guys!

Thanks! :)

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Foolproofing

Quick Question: Is it necessary to read the directions every time you repeat a game during foolproofing? I just do it to simulate everything as it would be in a real exam.

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Hi all,

For question 8, I confidently picked answer choice E and was stunned that this was correct. Upon looking into the explanation for this it seems that the line reference was at 47 to 48. While doing this timed, this was the exact line reference that I thought made answer choice E the correct answer (unsupported from the text).

Lines 47 to 48 state that : For drilling deeper wells, OBM is normally used.

I thought answer choice E was too strong as it states "required." Normally just states that it is more generally used, while required states a necessary condition. While a different mud recipe can be used (or may be more preferable) for deep oil wells to that of shallow oil wells, I thought "drilling deep oil wells REQUIRING the use of a different mud recipe than shallow wells" was too strong. Who is to say that there aren't other conditions for a specific deep oil well that makes the mud recipe for shallow wells more preferable for a specific case?

Thank you for your help in advance!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-54-section-1-passage-2-passage/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-54-section-1-passage-2-questions/

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Experimental Section

I'm curious if there are any ways to "identify" the experimental section. I feel like after taking so many exams, doing so many questions etc. I will be able to have a feel for which one it might be - thoughts?

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Hi everyone,

Goodluck to those who are taking in Sept! And to the rest of you studying!

I need some advice. This whole week I was down with the flu so I didn't get much studying done. About 1.5 weeks ago, I was averaging in the low 160s with a few outliers in the 165-166 range, felt pretty confident in my abilities but I knew I could improve more. LG was down to about -2, LR was down to -4 to -6, and RC was about -6 to -8. I revisited the CC twice already and thought I had established some fairly good understanding of the fundamentals.

Prior to this week of getting sick, I did a few preptests and they were significantly lower than usual (I'm talking like 157, 154 and 158...) I'm not sure why this is, I took them on different days - during review, the answers seemed evident... I revisited the CC again after this but of course my sickness got in the way for the week. I just did PT78 and scored a 160 so that made me feel a bit better (at least it wasn't in the 150s lol) but the questions I was getting wrong, I could get them right under review. So I thought okay maybe it's timing again (had another instance of a timing issue previously), so I just did PT60 first LR section allowing myself a bit more time (40 min) and got -10...

Help :( I thought I was making some progress in LR... With the test coming up literally in one week, I am thoroughly freaking out.

Has anyone else had wildlly fluctuating scores??? Please let me know your thought process and recommendations on how I should keep studying, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thank you!!!!

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Long time observer, first time poster here. Just hit my first perfect score ever on PT 54. Went -1 RC, -1 LR, -0 LG.

I scored a 165 on the June test and was really disappointed. Upped the work effort over the summer and over my last 20 PT's I'm averaging a 174. With a week left until the test I'm praying I can match that average on the real thing as I was averaging a 168-169 headed into June! Just wanted to share my accomplishment and hopefully let others know this test is very learnable as long as you're willing to put in the work!

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Reading Comp

Does anyone have any additional advice for reading comp? I am getting like -4 on LR, and -2 on LG but then Reading comp I'm getting like -12's. Trying the memory method but it just doesn't seem to be sticking? Looking just for some other tactics that have worked for people that I could try.

Thanks.

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Unfortunately, I find myself frequently narrowing down RC answers to two choices, then picking the wrong one*. This is especially the case with MAIN POINT questions (although I have no problem identifying conclusions in LR stimuli).

While I know the common types of incorrect ACs (out of scope, too narrow, unsupported, etc.), that knowledge doesn't seem to be helping me, especially in a time crunch.

I've also come across seemingly conflicting information in my study materials* concerning main point questions: some say it has to encompass all the main points of the paragraphs (or else it's too narrow), while others say it should just focus on the main conclusion and any subsidiary conclusions shouldn't be mentioned (or else it's too broad). Which is correct?

It's hard to find the right answer when I'm unsure exactly what it needs to include (or exclude).

ANY help is greatly appreciated, especially that which I can apply within the next couple days (if possible).

Thank you!!!

Background:

  • I tend to miss anywhere from 8-11 questions per section (YIKES!)
  • **(I've just been studying on my own with the help of some misc. prep books and free online materials [ya girl is broke], but need some additional help.)

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    Not both rule

    Its skipping my mind right now, as I studied it before. But, in grouping games (not in/out) why do we use A -> ~B instead of A (--)~B for rules like A can't be added to the same class as B

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    Last comment sunday, sep 10 2017

    Test Center Change

    Hi everyone,

    As my test center is going to be receiving a direct eye hit from the storm, I'm beginning to prep for a test center change. Anyone have suggestions for test centers that are near air ports? Besides studying, this is the only thing I can do to battle storm-LSAT stress. I would prefer east coast and was thinking Atlanta or DC!

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    This advice might be too little too late for those of you next week, but if it can be helpful for anyone...

    I have been struggling mightily with confidence and have seen my scores dip significantly in the past couple of weeks. Part of the struggle is due to the fact that the last time I sat for the test, I massively underperformed and was miserable over my score. So miserable that I swore off the LSAT/law school for several years.

    Once I got back into prep, I decided that I was going to save that PT for right before the test to prove to myself that I was much better prepared, could do this, blah, blah, blah. I hadn't looked at the PT since getting my score back so it was essentially fresh. (Did I mention that I swore off the test for so long that my original score is no longer on the record? (Gross I'm old/thank goodness.))

    Long story short, I went from a 160 to a 176, and was one question away from a 180 in BR.

    I say this not as a humble brag (ok, maybe a little bit of that) but because I have more confidence now than I've had at any point in my prep. I think a huge mental hurdle for retakers is the fact that you KNOW it can go sub-optimally. But by taking the one that originally got the best of you...well, you get what I'm saying.

    (Also, major props to 7Sage because even if I hadn't underperformed as much as I did, I still wouldn't be close to the level I'm at now.)

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    Last comment sunday, sep 10 2017

    142 to 161

    I just wanted to rave a little bit cause I'm pumped. So i did the full core curriculum, then just wrote my first practice LSAT. My cold diagnostic back in May I got a 142. On this test I got a 161 before BR and a 165 after BR. I'm not writing until December but I am already pumped about the progress just made! Thanks 7Sage!

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    I am going to take the September lsat; I took a practice lsat on saturday and was wondering if i should review/relax until saturday or take another practice exam before the actual test day? and If so which day is best to take practice exam on? Thanks and good luck everyone.

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    Hi,

    Can anyone confirm whether or not there is now an experimental section included for accommodated test takers? Also, I assume that for accommodated test takers who are taking the test not on Sept 16 (within a week after is what they go by if the center can't administer the accommodated LSAT on the same day as the normal one), it will be a different test?

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    During all of my practice tests, I found that it takes me a bit to warm up (always doing best on my last section in comparison to my other sections), and so I started to create a music playlist to help me "wake up" and get in the right mindset for the LSAT. If anything, it helps put me in a better mood at the very least. I have to drive a bit to get to the testing location, so I'm looking for recommendations.

    On my current playlist are just a mishmash of different songs:

    "The Fire" - Kina Grannis

    "How Far I'll Go" - Auli'i' Cravalho

    "Till It's Gone" - Yelawolf

    "My Songs Know What You Did in the Dark (Light Em Up)" - Fall Out Boy

    "Bleed it Out" - Linkin Park

    "Without Me" - Eminem

    "'Till I Collapse" - Eminem, Nate Dogg

    "Power" - Kanye West

    Stronger" - Kanye West

    Ultimately, if you just have time for one song to listen to right before the LSAT, I definitely recommend the last song and good luck to other fellow September LSAT test takers!!

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    Last comment sunday, sep 10 2017

    Misc Games Question

    Hello,

    I have heard there is a resurgence of misc games on more recent LSAT. I am trying to practice those games, mainly from PT's under 40 but every time I get to an explanation JY says that the type of game is not on modern LSAT. Should I just try pull misc games from more recent LSAT then? Any recommendations on specific misc games to practice? I was trying not to pull from those to save them for full PT's but I also want to be fully prepared for any weird games that may come up.

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    Recently took PTs A, B, and C2 (3 of the 4 released February exams that I know of). Scored in the high 170s on all three, each at least 6 points higher than my average across all of the other tests. In June I scored in the high 160s. I realize these three tests constitute a small sample size, but to have such a significant jump -- and so consistent a jump at that -- makes me extremely skeptical. Do February exams have easier curves, with people who wait until the last second to take the exam? That's my best guess at this point...

    Anyone else notice the same with their scores?

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    I'm having a bit of a hard time deciding whether or not I should include a brief period of volunteering on my resume.

    Context: I volunteered with a legal advice centre for up to ~3 months (I have yet to work out the exact dates). The organisation has a training course for their volunteers to complete before they do solo work with clients. The course is meant to take many months to complete, and I didn't finish it before I left. Much of my experience at the organisation was spent shadowing trained volunteers and sitting in on cases. I stopped volunteering when it became clear I didn't have enough time to commit (1 full day per week + training), given my paid job and my LSAT studies. I left on good terms and was told they would have loved for me to stay. I was officially counted as a volunteer for this time period, but only as a trainee.

    Question: Do I include this on a resume?

    Arguments against:

  • I never practised as a qualified volunteer.
  • ~3 months is not a very long time. I worry it shows a lack of commitment and might be seen as resume padding.
  • Arguments for:

  • I had a genuine reason for stopping volunteering (more hours at work, time management etc.)
  • I learned important lessons about myself and my local area. I could go in to more detail on this point but would rather not (anonymity).
  • Just need as many 2nd opinions as I can with this one. I don't want to include anything which would make me seem like a flake, or make me seem like I'm struggling to pad a resume.

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    Hello helpful 7sage community!

    I've been having trouble improving my LG score to where I want it to be. So far I have fool-proofed over 40 games. I did everything game from preptest 62-71. I have a huge excel spreadsheet of timing, attempt #, quality ( I only allow myself to miss one question @ 7sage's suggested time before I consider it mastered.) My average on the sections is about -13. It's really holding me back. I am in a comfortable range with the rest of the sections and should be scoring around a 160, but due to the LG section I am around a 155. Any suggestions would be helpful.

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    Hi guys,

    I would love to organize a "proctored PT" in the DC area. We can choose a location, day and time, and take a PT together. Everyone can bring their own PT so we don't have to worry about choosing one that is new for everyone.

    I am taking the test at American University of Law. They usually have some open classrooms. We could do it there! Or at a library in DC.

    Let me know who is up for this! I am thinking maybe this Tuesday but the day and time is flexible !

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    Last comment sunday, sep 10 2017

    PT 80 vs 78

    Hey guys,

    I'm taking the Sept test and was wondering which exam I should take for my final PT tomorrow.

    Please let me know if there are any unique or interesting question types that are not typically found in any other PTs.

    Thanks!!

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