I've gotten to the point where I'm just drilling and taking PrepTests now. Ambitiously I've tried to do 1 per day, but I've quickly realized this has diminishing returns. After the 3rd or 4th consecutive day of taking PrepTests, my scores begin to drop significantly (like a difference of minus 4-5 questions on proceeding PrepTests).

I can tell when my mind is burnt out too - I may have to read a stimulus multiple times and it often feels like I'm just intuitively picking answers instead of reasoning through them. I'll often miss questions because of a silly reading error. After a day or two of rest, my score is back up to where it was initially.

My question is, does this phenomena ever end? Have any of you been able to take a PrepTest every day with no diminishing returns? And if so, what strategies did you employ?

For those of us 7sagers that have done countless PT's and drilling packets, I think it would be safe to say that we all can round about guess what difficulty a question would be---from 1-5 (how it is shown in the analytics). Because of this, I recently started guessing, on each blind review question I did, what the question difficulty might be. I have really found this to be a valuable tool to see what exactly my confidence is in a particular question compared to the community's results in the analytics. At least for myself, I found that my own perception and biases of how difficult the question was tends to skew the 1-5 difficulty guess. Where the questions I got right and I am confident in are usually lower then the actual analytic difficulty. On the other hand, on the questions I got wrong, my guess tends to be even or of a higher difficulty then the actual analytic difficulty. The most helpful part of this process is finding out the questions I got right both in timed and in BR, but I still rated the question higher then the analytics. These questions are ones that would slip though the cracks as the analytics are unable to capture this.

Using the 1-5 metric difficulty guess has started exposing question types that, although I got it right both times, I need to work on more to drop my perceived difficulty. It shows were I am quick and confident, but it also shows where I am lacking this.

I am not sure if this would be useful at all for anyone, but I wanted to share a little something to the community that I learn a lot from. Thank you!

P.S. - I do know there is a 'circle the question' confidence method, but I redo every question in blind review over again so this didn't work for me.

I usually can only study a max of 2 hours at at time. Even then by 1.5 hours my brain is really burnt out and I have to push through the last half hour. I'd really like to see if I can start doing 4 hour sets but that seems unlikely. Even with my 2 hour sets, I still have to take a 2-3 minute break and declutter my brain every 30 minutes or so. Does anyone do really long sets straight through? If so, how do you do it without brain burnout?

With the recent uptick of unconventional LG games on PTs, I was wondering if anyone has a unique approach to minimizing the chances of striking out on a game. Obviously the best we can do is familiarize ourselves with these unique games, but in some cases I'm just genuinely lost.

One thing I was thinking of doing is browsing through the games at the very beginning of the section, spotting the unique game (if there is one) and at least read it and play with setting it up and then come back to it later. Kind of like skipping on LR. Sometimes priming yourself for something and then coming back to it helps you figure out what to do.

I have been studying since May rigorously and have gone through the whole LG Bible as well as done PTs and have been working through 7Sage's curriculum as well. LG is just not clicking. I keep trying, but it seems every game besides a simple sequencing game (which I still may have -1or -2) I am simply not making the inferences either correctly or quickly enough. Let's just say I never get LG, though I'll keep trying, what's the worst case scenario here? Pick one game on the LSAT, hope I get them all, then just...what...guess on the rest? Do as many inferences as possible and...what...guess on the rest? Pulling my hair out over here. JY's videos make so much sense and I'll think, hey, it's finally happening for me. Then I'll look at a game, work through it, think - that wasn't too bad, bu then I'll get -4 and it took me 15 minutes. Any advice??

Hey, guys! Can you help me make sense of my reasoning for selecting this answer choice, if that makes sense?! Lol

Ok so I chose D but I get why B is correct. I still don't know for certain that I wouldn't have the same thoughts that lead me to choose D, if presented again.

D) draws conclusion about a specific belief (more ppl believe elected officials should resign if indicted than believe that they should resign if convicted. I -> R and C - > R) based on responses to inquiries (I -> R and R - > C) about two diff specific beliefs. So basically, I said the conclusion was based on I - R and C - > R and not based on I -> R and R - > C. I said this equaled two different specific beliefs.

Does this make sense to anyone?? Or, am I just doing too much? Was I just totally off here? Hopefully I wrote this up correctly and you guys understand what I mean here. TIA

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-22-section-2-question-25/

I'm a little confused about why the video explanation shows the first sentence as PISM --most--> /DOR. I thought that the "without" would negate the first part of the sentence and it would look like /PISM --most--> DOR. If someone could explain that to me, I would appreciate it! Thanks!

I eliminated answer choice D because it says, "fails to exclude...." As I see it, answer choice D would perfectly address the flaw in the argument if it said something like, "excludes the possibility..." or "fails to consider the possibility...." Am I missing something?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-77-section-2-question-18/

I know this is usually said to be a huge no-no, but in my studies (poli sci and sociology student) i skim read all the time and find it super helpful to save time.

When it comes to RC, I find I struggle the most with the wordings of the questions as opposed to the passage itself, so when I take 3-4mins to read the passage, I don't have enough time to answer all the questions properly and usually range anywhere from -7 to -10 on an RC section in the 60+ PTs.

Any ideas on how to overcome this? Even when I use the Memory Method, I still feel like I don't have enough time to answer the questions. Would skimming over specific details be beneficial or detrimental?

I just completed PT60. I finished with a 160 and 165 on the BR. Reading comp is by far my biggest weakness. I usually average 7-11 wrong on RC. I've spent the last month focusing on LG and improved a lot averaging 2-4 wrong but I can't seem to improve at all on RC. Any advise on making any kind of improvement on RC?

Reading comprehension is my worst section. Relatively speaking. But on the situations where my timing is a little off and i don't have much time on the last passage or even the last two passages, i'll just speed read through the passages and quickly answer the questions. I'm talking doing a passage and the questions in 6 minutes. As crazy as this sounds i get most of the questions right when i do this. Maybe missing one per passage. And i always check to see if that passage was an easier or harder passage and regardless of the difficulty, i always always always do well when I'm in a rush and just trust my gut and answer. When i do this i don't really even eliminate, i just look for the right answer. But when i have time I'm not as accurate on harder passages.

Does this happen to anyone else? I'm always shocked at how many i get right when i didn't even fully grasp the passage and just ran with what i could gather quickly.

As I'm currently fool proofing the games, I've been noticing that my neck is killing me. I'm guessing it's because my head is down and I'm focused and most likely a tense. If it gets bad enough, the pain literally will run down my arms. I've always struggled with back issues but it's always been centered in my low back. It surely does not help that I sit at a desk all day for work as well. Any suggestions from others with the same issue? Thanks!

Hi there,

Writing this as I listen to the Post Core Curriculum webinar, and I have nearly finished the 7Sage CC, I am trying to organize and map out the next few months of my study--- to write in December or February. Even with relatively heavy study, its has taken me 3 months to complete CC. From CC, I created a binder predominantly of LR notes along with notes from the Trainer. I have file folders that each entail a single copy of PT's 1-80, a giant LR binder with every singe LG (1-80) for Fool Proofing, and a binder to work out of BR. I am able to study semi-full time...any suggestions/recommendations on my organizational structure? Although there are plenty of inquiries about how many PT's...I am willing to do as many as it takes, but I don't want to run out of time and there be a gap where I've skipped a whole middle chunk of PT's if I start with #1.

I am aiming for a 15+ point increase, ideally from my last unfortunate write in February. I began 7Sage in May, and have not taken a PT since (skipped diagnostic). I have no knowledge of which areas require my focus.

Should I wait a few weeks before attempting timed PT's, and begin with untimed drills while referring to the curriculum to understand structure better, and Fool Proof LG, or should I jump right in and BR? If so, how long would you suggest this phase last? Or should I ponder over CC notes over and over again without practice before going in? I am honestly a bit nervous to taking my first PT.

I will be able to transition to full time studying in September.

Any and all advice is greatly appreciated.

Thank you!!!!

This is a MMS question that just doesn't make sense to me.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-71-section-1-question-15/

In the stimulus you are presented with this;

Vitamins A and D can be toxic if you exceed the daily recommended intake.

Some foods, as stated by the manufacturer, have 100% daily recommend value per serving.

Many people over estimate what counts as a serving, sometimes eating 2-3 times more.

I follow it so far.

Here is the issue;

Correct Answer says;

B.) Some people who consume vitamin-fortified foods, exceed the daily intake of Vitamins A and D.

What? How is this supported? Vitamin A and D were never said to be in those foods. It could be Vitamin B and E that are in the foods that people over eat. How do I know some of those foods contain vitamin A and D. It never says anything about that.

The answer choice I picked;

D.) Most people who eat vitamin fortified foods should not take any vitamin supplements.

Isn't this more supported. If many people eat more than they should of vitamin fortified foods, then they need to avoid even more of those vitamins because it's unhealthy. This could be ANY vitamin, A/B/D/E. This seems logically way more supported than AC B. Even with J.Y.'s explanation I still don't understand how B is more supported than D.

For some reason, the explanation videos aren't loading. I'm pretty sure I have Flash already installed.

Good morning. This is a recurring thought that I've had and trying to find a framework/rule of thumb that I can use, although it may not work for every question, I'd like to have a go-to base to start from.

One of my toughest things, on the LSAT, has been trying to come up with how JY have what the potential answer may look like. An Answer Choice Framework (this is what I call it), as you think about which answer choice maybe correct before you get to them. I think I've found what JY may use as a basis, other than just gut intuition, as an Answer Choice Framework (as I summon my inner JY), please tell me if I'm wrong: A caused B; B caused A; C caused both A&B; or total Unrelated/or off topic?

I'm thinking, if I label the parts of the argument as 'A' or 'B', etc., then simply look for reversals or alternatives, etc.

What I'm thinking is, that should be my ground rules or rule of thumb, to formulate what a potential answer may look like. Please tell me if I'm totally off base?

PS

On the logical indicators, "Is/Are", they introduce subsets, JY didn't say this but it seems to me that the Subsets these words introduce should be the Sufficient Condition. Am I wrong in thinking this way when speaking of them as Logical Indicators?

ok so i live in Yonkers, and im looking for people around the area to study with, keep eachother motivated and kill the test together, I mean i have my motivator @tringo335 that keeps me in check but im down for expanding my inner circle of lsatness.

@theLSATdreamer said:

Fordham NY Public Library: 310 Kingsbridge Road Saturday August 5, 2017 9:30 a.m. try doing PT 62 before then.

Within the RC - Science section, the lessons do not display the estimated time for the section. Many have "0m" next to them. I am not sure if this has been addressed, but I thought I would mention it. I believe it is because it is new material.

I was wondering whether you guys read the question stimulus or question stem first? Powerscore says stimulus first, but the Trainer says the stem first, and I'm trying to figure out which would be better to improve my LR score

Hey guys,

I was just going through the admissions package on 7sage and came across the resume portion. I am applying to Canadian law schools and was wondering if the applications require a resume? I did create one but not sure if I even need one.

I didn't see anything about a resume on any of the law schools admission requirements or maybe I just missed it entirely. I know 7sage discusses that American law schools do require one..

Thanks in advance!

I just finished grading PT71,(drumroll), i got a 173!!! And a 178 BR. Got that little email from JY and Dillon.

Stick to the BR, be intense in the review, and drill drill drill.

Studying just got a hell of a lot more fun!!

Sorry i dont mean to sound like a show off, but when i told my family.. they didnt really understand what the big deal was and how much work it took coming from a diagnostic of an inflated 148

I know, this is the most idiotic thing I've done in my life... While studying for the past 2 months, I forgot to register for the September exam. Remembered last Friday which was 2 days past the deadline and spent the weekend beating myself over it but now it's time to face reality. Now that applying early is out the window, anyone know how large of a setback applying after the December exam will be in chances of getting into a school compared to applying early (because of rolling admissions)? If I write the December exam, when will the scores come out?

For some reason, regardless of the rest of the test, my first LR section is always worse than my last.

The past 3 tests have been

LR (sec 1) -5 LR (sec 3) -2

LR (sec 2) -4 LR (sec 4) -1

LR (sec 1) -6 LR (sec 3) -2

The difficulty of each section doesn't seem to matter. LG and RC stay fairly consistent.

What could this be? Fluke?

Just as an FYI for people, I have been in touch with the LSAC official and they have permitted me to use the LSATMax watch, which goes from 0 to 35 minutes and can stop and restart the time by pressing or pulling the crown. Even with the picture, the LSAC officials seemed ok with the watch and told me I can bring in a copy of my email conversation to the testing center.

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