Hey everyone,

So I have been seriously considering some sort of sleep aid to help me form the habit of going to bed at an earlier time. The problem is I like to fight my sleep. Like I really fight sleep and I could be super tired.... So I have been thinking of trying out ZZZquill to see if that might help me just fall asleep faster. Have anyone of you tried it? Would love to know what you guys think.

Also, I want to give it up as soon as I feel like my habit of going to bed early has been formed. So I need it to be non-addictive. It says on the bottle it is but I do want to confirm that.

I want to go from this:

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To this:

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Do NOT test in Columbia.

Due to the experience in the overflow testing room, LSAC offered a cancellation and free retake, but replied that:

"Your concerns have been noted for consideration at future administrations; however, we cannot guarantee the same room will not be used again."

Proctors: The proctors were very polite and quiet.

Facilities: About 85% of test takers were seated in one of two large lecture halls, with tiered seating and plenty of space. However, there is a 15% chance you could be stuck in an overflow classroom. This classroom was crowded, and offered only single unit desk-chairs combos with inadequate space for taking the test. The smaller desk offers less than 12 inches width writing space. The "larger" desk offers about 14 inches width of writing space. I have photos that confirm this, but could not figure how to post.

The desks also have an angle steep enough that round pencils will roll off if not propped up. However, that wasn't a problem since no one had room on their desk for any spare pencils. People were allowed and encouraged to pull other units to them, and to use that chair space to store sharpeners, watch, spare pencils, etc. On both sides of the room, people had their units pulled directly against the wall to get as much separation from nearby test-takers as possible. It was ridiculous.

What kind of room: Lecture hall or small classroom

How many in the room: 75 or 26

Desks: comfortable seating, or single unit that required you to crouch forward throughout the tests

Left-handed accommodation: yes, yes

Noise levels: if you sit in the back of the first floor lecture hall, you can hear the building doors open and close throughout, the other two rooms are quiet

Parking: nearby street parking is free on Saturdays

Time elapsed from arrival to test: I don't remember when we started, but it was within a reasonable timeframe

Irregularities or mishaps: The test center director acknowledged the inadequacy of the overflow room before the test began. Multiple test takers expressed concerns, and he arrived to explain that ""I know you don't have a lot of room and that it's tight. I get complaints about this room every time, but it's the only room I could get in the building. If you want to cancel, I'll let you."

Obviously, no one walked out of the December test to take it in February, but several people (myself included) became even more frustrated to learn that he had used the desks and room previously.

Other comments: A conversation with USC testing center staff the following week indicated that they were largely unaware of the magnitude of the test, or the need to make notes that one could refer back to on following questions, which, given the inadequate writing space, required one to flip a folded test booklet back and forth throughout the test.

Would you take the test here again? NO! Under no circumstances would I ever risk getting stuck with a room that, by the test center director's own admission, offered a testing environment so cramped and inadequate that he offered to email LSAC with an explanation and offer of a free retest. Even if you live in Columbia, drive to Greenville, Charlotte, Charleston, or Orangeburg. They bid on at least 176 spots (number comes from conversation with test center staff the following week) and offer adequate accommodations for only 150. The additional spots are a lazy money grab by someone at USC.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: December, 2015 (lecture hall) December, 2016 (overflow room)

Hey guys and gals, just a quick one. I'm going through all the "PROBLEM SETS" through the Ultimate 7sage Package and was wondering which prep tests JY uses for these questions so I can purchase them specifically.

Thanks in advance!

Admin note: Don't yell at the small admins, we're fragile! No caps in titles please.

Hey again everyone, so I've been studying for quite some time now, and as I mentioned in another post, I am still scoring quite low (mid 140's, mid 150's after BR) :/ I feel like I already know, or have a general understanding of how to approach most problems in each section, but as noted with my score, I can obviously go back to the lessons and drill again. I've already pushed back taking the LSAT twice since the September administration, and I'm debating if I should take the February or the June exam.

One of my concerns for preparing as if I were to take the February exam is, what I should do if, let's say I take one PT a week until February, I am still not scoring what I want, but I've exhausted those recent PT's?

In other words, If I'm concerned with prepping for February with recent PT's with the possibility that I may not reach my target score (anything 155-160 or higher), should I perhaps PT with older tests in the 40's or 50's? Should I just wait till June?

Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated, thank y'all so much!

I'm looking for someone who is open to being a study buddy over Skype. Preferably someone who has started to blind review and is interested in doing about 2 tests per week (or one!) and is interested in blind-reviewing the sections with me. I'm aiming for Feb 2017 test date but will push back to June 2017 if necessary.

I'd like our study sessions to be productive to the both of us so while I am interested in blind review, I don't mind going over anything else, even if it's certain fundamentals, etc.

Hello all -

In my application there is a section for academic awards, honors, etc, and I'm wondering what this would be considered. For example, would each semester I made the Dean's List be applicable? I believe my Leadership Distinction obviously should be on there, but what about graduating Cum Laude, or a Honor's Society I joined?

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Hello all,

I've seen the word modality thrown around a lot in discussions. As related to the LSAT, and in everyday English, what is modality? Examples are welcome! Thanks in advance.

I am finishing up my law school resume and wondering if it is entirely necessary to put how many hours per week that position was? I feel like it would be helpful for the reader, but it makes the Resume look cluttered and not as clean.

Additionally, Do I have to put the month of the year that I started the position? Or is the year sufficient? Due to formatting, I would have to completely redo my resume if I put the month of the year, but if it is necessary I am absolutely willing to do so. Thoughts?

Thank you 7Sage community! Oh how I wish I could have find you all before I paid $1000 for an in person prep course...

So this section is by far my worst... I think the timing aspect is really killing me, any ideas on how to improve, or how perhaps you've seen gains within this section?

I've been averaging about 8-12 correct per section (I know, it's pretty bad) but after BR I usually get about 5-7 more answers correct. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thank you!

Admin edit: Ahh! No full-caps in titles, please. I'm a very timid admin and I don't like being yelled at. ):

As you all know, many law school offer the options to do early decision, essentially meaning if you get in, you have to go there and you have to withdraw your apps from other schools. I have 2 questions on this I was hoping you guys could help me with.

1) Early decision increases your chance to get into that law school, correct?

2) A big decision on which law school to go to is scholarships. If I wanted to go to Harvard hypothetically, and did early decision there and I got in, but they offered me no scholarship, while I at the same time got into Standford and they offered me 50% tuition scholarships, I would for the most part go to Standford. Would I still be binded to go to Harvard even though I got no scholarship? Or would I be able to say something like hey Harvard I got 50% scholarship at Stanford so if you dont match that I do not have to go to your school?

Hey I just purchased the Ultimate pack for 7sage. I have a question about the schedule.

Is there a document that shows what we need to do week by week?

cause what i see is just a list of the topics and tests

Thanks.

Hey everyone,

I am waiting for my December LSAT score and i just registered for the February LSAT just in case i don't get my target score. I've already applied to schools this cycle and they are all waiting for my december results. This question might be premature since I might have done well on my December LSAT but do you believe one can improve with only one month of studying? I would start studying after my score comes out if I fall short, which gives me January to February. I've finished the core curriculum. I think my main weakness may be the logic games section this past test. I genuinely have no clue what i got on that section but i'll be happy with a 70%. I felt like i was guessing a lot even though i felt adequately prepared for the logic games section and was looking forward to it after my 15 minute break. I honestly can't explain what went wrong. I did take a few days off of studying before my December test and i'm wondering if that had something to do with it. Generally, it's the RC section that gives me trouble. FYI, I have consistently scored my target score during practice tests, so I felt ready to write in December and i wasn't nervous or tired during test day. LG might have gone horribly wrong, i just don't know.

Hello, seen from old posts from the past but I'm curious what you guys frequenting the forums now think about studying and music.

I probably listen to music 1-5% of the time while studying, mostly just when I'm pounding away at games. I don't think I could listen to music when I'm doing LR or RC.

Its hard for me to work in silence for too long. When I do listen to music I feel like I can get more work overall in. In undergrad I almost never studied without blasting music and this helped me pretty consistently pull off 6- 8-10-12 hr days most days of the semester in undergrad. My work consisted mostly of reading though so I never found lyrics and loudness to be distracting.

Thoughts?

Nothing much to say here except that after a grueling month and a half of study, I finally broke the 170 barrier! Here's hoping it wasn't a freak accident and I can keep it up. I'm taking the February LSAT and I'm starting to feel pretty confident!!

Whenever I take a PT I find that there are about 25 questions (on the entire test total) that I'm unable to get to or finish while timed. My total number of questions wrong is much lower than that, and when I do these questions untimed I have no problem answering them. What are some techniques that some of you used to finish the section within the allotted time without compromising on accuracy?

Hello, would like to hear from other students as well...

So I'm thinking to visit the schools that I would like to apply.

Would it be helpful to talk to admission people there or can it actually hurt?

I do not want to give negative images and thought if so I would rather not visiting them...

In which case it can hurt application and in which case it can be helpful?

What questions would you ask them and what questions would you avoid?

Thank you!

Sorry for the click-bait title.. But I was wondering if anyone has taken a test and went ahead and registered for the next test while they waited for their test results?

To be more specific: I have just taken this December 2016 LSAT, and I am thinking of registering for the February 2017 LSAT because I want to enroll in law school fall 2017. I know if I took prep-tests all throughout this month and next month then I will be set for confidently scoring high enough to get into Emory with my GPA and resume. I just froze on the logic games portion on the December test because I forgot how to set-up the game board for two games.. I didn't have enough time or energy to practice the foul-proof method during the semester, so I'm beating myself up for that... However, now that I am on Christmas break and done with the 10-hr internship plus work 25 hours a week and five classes, I have SOOOOO much more free-time and focus. With my schedule it took me 5-7 damn months to finish the freaking 3 month curriculum because I took my time with learning everything (even though I watched everything on 2x+), and I honestly didn't have enough time to take like any practice tests, BUT when I did a blind review with my friend I was getting everything right, and I passed out and woke up and took the LSAT the next day (sounds horrible I know).

I need at least a 165, and I have talked to Emory officials, and they stated that they only look at the highest LSAT score. So with that being said, would y'all recommend me registering for the Feb exam and taking serious practice tests until Jan 4th when the scores are released..? I also talked to an LSAT official, and they said they would refund my entire $180 if I emailed them my situation that I am content with my December score. IDK, IDK WHY I AM SO LOST.... I get anxiety when I see everyone set and here I am all late n'shit. I haven't even started my application process or anything.........fjdngdjf;s

Thanks in advance for responding. <3

Sometimes in your LSAT prep you may feel demoralized or unmotivated, but remember you are determined, fierce....

the real deal...

and with hard work you can slay this test.

PT 44 BR June17

Sat, Dec 10, 2016 5:00 PM EST

Join the meeting from your computer, tablet or smartphone.

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You can also dial in using your phone.

United States: +1 (872) 240-3412

Access Code: 945-050-141

Note:

* For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able on your own; then join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.

* Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Win the argument with your reasoning.

* These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).

* The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.

Tentative study schedule

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Hi Folks,

I’m going to be leading a daytime study group in preparation for the 2017 February test.

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As you can see below, most of the dates are scheduled for Wednesdays. If you have any interest in the daytime group and would like to be tagged when I post a discussion, let me know in the comment section below. That way, you won’t miss anything. Thanks!

Wednesday, December 14, 2016 - PT 72

Wednesday, December 21, 2016 - PT 73

Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - PT 74

Wednesday, January 4, 2016 - PT 75

Wednesday, January 11, 2016 - PT 76

Monday, January 16, 2016 - PT 77

Thursday, January 19, 2016 Monday, January, 23, 2016 - PT 78

Wednesday, January 25, 2016 Thursday, January 26, 2016 - PT 79

Wednesday, February 1, 2016 - PT 80

Note: General Study Group Guidelines

I checked the LSAC and saw the Credential Assembly Service (CAS), which cost $50. How would it(elvuation) influence the admission? any idea?

Hi guys

So I am reluctantly applying for accommodations for February. Three years ago I began exhibiting symptoms of OCD and I've been receiving treatment for it ever since. I took the December exam, but didn't apply mostly because I was really anxious about it, and also because after reading up on the accommodations online I realy didn't think that I would get approved. I am registered with my university's program for accommodations, but I haven't had to use them. This is mostly because my condition was diagnosed only a year ago and I've taken very few classes since then. I have been approved for extra time if needed by the university, but I just didn't feel like I needed it in the past. Well that changed in December. During the break I had a minor anxiety attack. I felt like I couldn't read when I opened up the first section...lol, and my OCD was off the charts. I think it's just because I've never taken an exam that has been this stressful. The LSAT triggers anxiety for most people, and having an actual anxiety disorder made this experience horrible. I want to see if I can get approved for February so I have a fair shot at actually finishing the exam without losing control of my mind. Basically wondering if anyone with a similar condition was approved and, if so, any recommendations for documents I should send in with my request. Just filling out the form right now and I'm hopeful I'll get approved without an extensive history of accommodations.

Thanks guys :)

Also for everyone recovering from December, how are you picking back up and studying for Feb? I took a week off (not really I had to submit my final thesis for my undergrad), and now I'm going to start with some LR questions to warm up. Maybe I'll do a PT in a week or so to see where I'm at.

I took my first LSAT, this December. I am staying optimistist about the result, hoping I will score enough to get into the school I will me applying. But then again, there is always a chance I might have to take it again. I decided not to mess with February since, I want to take a break and on top of that, I don't think I can improve my score substantially. Wondering, what do you guys do while waiting for the results?

The dude

I did not, and I am regretting it. My last section was LG, and I was feeling pretty defeated.

Hey guys so Im planning on sending LSAC my transcripts so i just wanted to clarify something. IF I directly order a transcript from my CC and university that I attended, do i still need the transcript request forms? I was planning on just going to my CC and requesting them to send in my transcripts. And then just order my transcripts to be sent from my university as well. I'm just not sure if I still need the transfer request forms or not? Thanks!