Hey everyone,

So it's been a while since I posted on here. My last post was pretty positive, I PT'd a 156 which I was excited about. I wrote the June 2016 LSAT and it kicked my a**, I was suffering from an extreme anxiety attack during the test, there was someone tapping their pencil (which is the worst thing ever!!) and I came out thinking I did "okay". I got my score back and I got a 142 which jammed me into a deep dark hole of depression, self defeat and I've had a hard time getting myself out of that hole from a 142 on my record. My PT's were constant before June, I was staying in the mid to high 150s (which isn't my target) but I was hoping I'd do better.

I'm going to re-do the 7sage core program with the LSAT Trainer and the bibles and hopefully re-write in either Dec or Feb (probably Feb) but I have a lot of avoidance / procrastination behavior (I'm ADD). I can ALWAYS find something else to do (working full time), and I find myself literally avoiding drilling this core material into my head. How do you guys keep yourself focused on the end goal, and not prior defeat? I'm extremely frustrated and mildly embarrassed that it has taken me this long with the LSAT, it feels like a big roller coaster for me.

Hoping someone in a similar situation can shed some light.

Thanks,

Chels

What PT's from 1 to __ are used in the ultimate course? Wanted to purchase them.

Hey guys,

So, I'm tripping out since the September LSAT is coming up so quickly, and I don't feel ready. When I say I don't feel ready, I know the most common response from everyone will probably be "postpone then" or "don't write until you feel ready," but the score I need to get into my school of choice would be somewhere in the mid 150s. I've posted before, and I've taken all of the advice that everyone has given me, and it definitely helped. However, yesterday I just had a terrible feeling in the 15 minute break of my PT, and I stupidly decided to correct the first 3 sections of the exam, just to see where I was at (I know, I know, really stupid, shouldn't have done it). As my feelings suggested, I got shit on; I got -11 on LG (I KNOW) and I couldn't believe it, I mean, I typically score between -3 and -1, which is OK for me, since I only need to get a 155 to get into the school I want. I got so mad after that, that I threw out the PT I was doing, and left school (where I was studying) and just went home and did nothing. Now, I just feel like shit all of the time, and I keep thinking to myself "what if this happens on game day?" "should I just write and cancel?" I literally have no confidence left. I kind of just want to write a PT and get in my goal range, just to boost my morale a bit. But I am also preparing to write this December as well. I've been doing timed LG sections, and doing well on them, but I just feel in the gutter, and I don't know what to do at this point. Sitting out this cycle is really not an option either, but do you guys think getting a score in the mid to high 150s range this close to game day is possible, given my circumstances? My average PT score is 155, and I wouldn't be so worried if I was in the 160s consistently, but it is what it is.

Now onto the rewrite, so I haven't really used 7sage all that much to study (stupid, I know, but as you guys can tell, I'm prone to stupid decisions), but I bought this course plan so I could have some LR explanations for some PTs. I did do a bunch of lessons in areas I was weaker in, but I would say I only did around 50% of the CC. I used the Powerscore Bibles for 3 months, until I discovered this site, which I must add is 1000000 times better than Powerscore, I was planning on just doing the CC from September 26 until December 3rd, and I generated a study schedule with it, and it seems pretty comfortable to me. It gives me 42h/week, which is OK, considering I've already done many of the lessons and they would most likely just be refreshers. I've only done 11 PTs (36, 52, 41, 53, 54, 55, 56, 70, 63, 67, 71) so I still have a bunch for a December rewrite, and the study schedule generator gives me like 3 or 4 PTs to do per week, but I feel like I can do 5 per week, so I might do that.

For background, in case anyone was wondering or has some specific knowledge applicable to my situation, I'm applying to University of Alberta Law School, wherein the most recent applicant profile shows what every regular applicant had GPA-wise and what their coinciding LSAT score was. I'm at a 3.93 GPA, so I could possibly get in with a 152, provided the averages stay fairly similar, which has been the case for the last 7-ish years, as per my conversation with the admissions lady at the school. This is just in case anyone was wondering why I would be happy with the score stated above.

Also, I just wanna say I LOVE 7sage, and its discussion forum. You guys are phenomenal people.

It took 2-3 hours to figure out why correct answer is correct...cannot believe it.

I have several questions like this per LR section...am I wasting time?

Does this happen to you? Or am I taking too much time for just one question?...I mean I'm writing down why it's actually correct for reviewing later, so that takes time too...

Do you do this? Or do you just remember or refer to explanations, and if you miss the same question, you just go back and refer to the explanations again?

I am just now getting into the habit of prephrasing and I'm not necessarily recognizing common flaws, not immediately anyway. I understand the common flaw listed included in the curriculum may not be exhaustive. There are still questions that I'm not able to prephrase at all. I know some people say prephrase on all question types but The LSAT Trainer says not on all. Is it more advantageous to memorize the common flaws or just be able to recognize the flaw? I ask about it being more advantageous because of answer choices for MOR or flaw/descriptive weakening questions? Obviously memorizing would be more advantageous for those question types but what about overall? I'm sure I'll be able to recognize them with continued studying but I'm wondering if I need to squeeze in flash cards for them or something?

Thanks for you input!

I understand. You're going to take an important test. It's not the most important test though. That one is called the December LSAT.

Just kidding. This is likely the last LSAT you'll ever take.

I'm only trying to remind you that for something this important, there are second chances. That's not true for a lot of other important things in life, so that's something to feel good about.

For most of you, you already know what score you'll get. Take your last three recent properly administered LSAT PrepTests (e.g., 76, 77, 78) and average your scores. You'll get plus or minus 3 points of that average.

There is nothing separating you from that score except the mere passing of a few day's time.

You are as prepared as you can be. You have already seen everything those crafty LSAT writers will throw at you and you've amply demonstrated your ability to respond with craftiness of your own.

Saturday will be just another PT day and the September 2016 LSAT will be just another PT. PrepTest 79, in fact, when the LSAC releases it a month from now. And how different could that be from PT 78 and PT 77 and PT 76 and on and on and on.

You are ready.

Even for those few insanely difficult curve breaker questions. Every LSAT has them. Every student who has ever taken the LSAT before you has encountered them. You have encountered them on your PTs and you will encounter them again on Saturday. Do what you've always done: skip. Keep moving. Maintain your rhythm.

And may the force of logic be with you.

Hey guys,

Just wanted to ask if you're supposed to include your CAS/transcript GPA on your resume. Also, which GPA should you use to fill in the GPA blank in the "Education" section of the application?

Thanks!

Hello,

I was not sure between A and E.

I think both suggest it does not serve the purpose,

one shows so by denying the necessity of its existence and one by showing ppl would do anyway if they know how to do so.

Why is one correct and one wrong?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-76-section-2-question-22/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-61-section-2-question-21/

I'm trying to understand where my thinking went wrong here, because the truth is that even after spending a lot of time with this question, I know I could make the same mistake on a similar question in the future.

The stimulus says that "A government study indicates that raising speed limits to reflect the actual average speeds of traffic on level, straight stretches of high-speed roadways reduces the accident rate. Since the actual average speed for level, straight stretches of high-speed roadways tends to be 120km/hr (75mph), that should be set as a uniform national speed limit for level, straight stretches of all such roadways."

I'm reading the stimulus with a critical eye, so immediately I'm thinking: "Well, the average speed might tend to be 75mph, but maybe the actual average speed on some stretches in some places of the country is much lower, and in other places much higher. So maybe instituting a "national speed limit" that is uniform across all locations would actually lead to more accidents. What justifies the speed limit being set uniformly? Why not adjust it specifically for each stretch of roadway based on the actual average speed for that location?"

So I read down, looking for an answer choice that speaks to this apparent flaw (as I see it) in the reasoning, an answer choice that tells me why the adopted speed should be uniform. So of course I picked answer choice B. "Traffic laws applying to high-speed roadways should apply uniformly across the nation."

I DO see now that answer choice B leaves out an important element (it doesn't justify why THIS particular law should be adopted), but with my concept of the argument's flaw in mind, I didn't see answer choice E as viable. I got to the answer choice still thinking that the question of whether adopting this traffic law uniformly across the country would in fact reduce the "rate of traffic accidents" was still open to question.

At least answer choice B seemed to address the gap (as I saw it) in the argument.

Where was I off in my thinking?

So my timed PTs are much higher than what I got on the actual test, and I'm at almost 100% accuracy untimed. Do any of y'all have some quick tips and tricks on going just a little faster (mostly logic games), or just how to replicate PT scores on the actual day?

My question is, once you get the game wrong, watch explanation, get all of the inferences from video explanation, do you print the copies of the game and drill it until you get it correct under timed conditions? Or do you move on to next game and then drill the previous one later in life? I am really confused as to what to do. I feel if I drill it right away I just remember what I watched in video so I get it correct and under time right away from second take. However, if I spend some time doing other LG I forget all inferences and start from scratch on each game. What to do?

Well, it's that time again. Another test has come around and for many of us, that means it's time for all of this hard work, passion, and ability to pay off. We've dedicated months if not years of our lives to this test and to the opportunities it can lead to. Just remember that your LSAT score won't be earned on Saturday. You've already earned it. It was earned in the curriculum and in the problem sets. It was earned in the dozens of PT's and BR's and group study sessions. It was earned on that one question you thought you'd never understand but that you refused to let go until you saw right through it, and it was absolutely earned on endless LG fool-proofing drills. So I'm not worried about Saturday, and I'm not worried about any of you either. We've already proven ourselves. Saturday is not when all this happens, it's when it ends. And I know that everyone of us is going to show up and achieve our full potential.

So on Wednesday, whether you need this:

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or this:

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(or both!)

We'll be meeting up to get pumped up for game day! Hope to see everyone there!

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Should I BR until I get 180 on each PT I took?

I'm going to stop checking all LSAT related discussion boards starting tomorrow so I just wanted to wish everyone on this forum taking the September test good luck -- we got this :D!

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Hi guys had a question regarding or. To determine whether or not it is the "inclusive" or "and" interpretation we use context. For exclusive interpretation we are to use a a biconditional indicator to show one or the other?

Correct me if I am wrong.

I've noticed that I have been getting some questions wrong based on the vocabulary used in questions or answers. Does anyone know of a list of commonly used advanced vocab words that I can study? I just took PT19 and "erroneous" made me pick the wrong answer. Thanks! (I am a native english speaker, just neglected to learn SAT vocab in 11th grade)

I am currently in the middle of my applications and I have ran across a bit of trouble in the Character and Fitness portion of the applications. I just need a bit of advice and feedback on this portion. If anyone could please PM me so that I may ask a few questions and get some advice I would greatly appreciate it!

Hi guys, I am having a lot of difficulty with tough conditional logic questions. When it comes to translating these from english to lawgic I just mess everything up. What can I do??

Hello!

I was confused between (B) and (C).

I thought the basic structure of argument in passage A is that since something has a bad assumption, so it doesn't work and thus must not be used.

I understand (C) is a good answer choice, but I wonder how (B) is different from (C).

It seems economic models, which presume rationality of actors, have indeed a bad assumption, so it must not be used to predict human behavior.

I would appreciate if you clarify difference between (B) and (C) and explain me why (C) is better than (B).

Thanks!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-74-section-3-passage-3-passage/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-74-section-3-passage-3-questions/

Hello guys, so I just had a realization that I did not want to face but I might have no choice. So my goal score is a 165 and I have taken a total of 11 PTs. My scores were 158,164,161,161,164,162 for the first 6 tests, which were fine by me and I felt as though I can take the September test and get pretty close to my target score. HOWEVER, here is my issue. I recently took PTs 73-76 in order to gear up for the September LSAT during the past week or two and I scored 158,158,159, and a 154 (which is what made me write this.). Seeing that 154 just sucked man because I was hoping to be ready by September. I'm now realizing that I may have to take the December and February(if needed) tests instead. Anyway, i have a few questions for you guys. 1. Am i making the right choice by postponing? 2. From where I'm averaging, is a 165 possible by December? Im asking this question with my recent scores of 158,158,159 and 154 in mind. These recent PTs seem to have been more difficult for me as my averages have dropped. 3. If a 165 is possible, what is the best possible approach I can take in my studying from now until December? I would appreciate ANY suggestions because I'm willing to hear out all advice. I was taking PTs almost every other day in order to get ready for September but Im now realizing that I might have made a mistake with that. Should I take less PTs per week and spend more time on BR? I would appreciate the feedback guys. I really want to be averaging a 165 by December so I want to make sure i approach studying the right way since I had to figure out the hard way that only 3-4 months of studying isn't going to cut it.

Hi guys,

So i decided to study until i average 170 on lsat. Do you think anybody can do this with hard work and dedication? Or do you believe some people are not made to hit 170?

Just took my first diagnostic since I started the course on Monday ( the recommended one by LSAC). Boooooyyyyy am I humbled.

153.

-6 LG

-10/-11 LR

-8 RC

Why am I posting this? I guess I would rather have it out there since I was a bit disappointed. 170 is the goal and I am 2 and a half months out from December/ 4 and half from February.

I thought I would have gotten at least a 160 considering I have been averaging about 75 to 80 percent on the Curriculum timed questions. Still, even an at home simulated exam felt a bit different. Those connections weren't coming as easily as they should. That's why we practice. Had to vent. Thank you for giving me the space to do so :)

I finish all of the sections in time and feel like i have a pretty good understanding of how to approach the different question types. RC is my strongest, the LG, then LR. any advice?

I am currently in the middle of my applications and I have ran across a bit of trouble in the Character and Fitness portion of the exam. If anyone could please PM me so that I may ask a few questions and get some advice I would greatly appreciate it!