Hi!

Will all the explanations for PT 79 be available on this website sometime this week (i.e. before December 3rd)? Unfortunately I missed the BR session with JY.

Thanks

Hi everyone,

Upcoming Dec test taker here. A question about stray marks on the answer sheet has troubled me recently.

If I fill in the whole circle, and broader than the circle itself (so it covers the bubble entirely), but not to the extend that the mark touches the edge of bubbles of other answer choices, would that count as a stray mark and thus not admitted?

I originally thought that they only scan answers within the circle and thus as long as no other answers have anything in it, while one answer has everything filled, it will be fine; but I recently read an example of stray mark that worried me. (If someone hand score it, it may appear apparent which answer the test taker chose)

For example, on the right, question 7 and 25, if there is only 1 answer, the one on the right, filled for each question, will it still be a correct mark?

http://www.iitianspace.com/images/OMR-filling-guidline.pdf

Can someone explain the science of OMR and how are machines processed?

Much appreciated!

I read the following (I think on one of the Manhattan prep forums) about weakening questions.

On weakening questions, when the argument posits a causal relationship, we seek an answer choice that does one of the following three things.

1. Provides an alternative cause

2. Provides an example of the presumed cause without the presumed effect

3. Provides an example of the presumed effect without the presumed cause.

I don't understand why/how 3 would weaken the argument, unless we are also assuming that if A causes B, then A is the ONLY thing that would cause B (i.e. A is necessary for B)

Can someone elaborate on this?

Also, on "most seriously weaken" questions, is it correct to think there will really be only one answer choice that weakens the argument? I am asking because of questions 21, section 1, on PT 79. Both answer choice A and E weaken the argumnet (According to the above), but E is clearly better.

I keep doing poorly on the logical reasoning section, especially with weakening questions. What should I do this week to try and help my score? I did really well with the problem sets during the course so I can't figure out why I can't get them right when doing timed practice tests. Any ideas? Thanks!

Silly question, but I'm fairly addicted to caffeine, and was wondering what the best strategy for caffeine intake on test day is. My concern about drinking a large amount of coffee during breakfast is that I'll have to go to the restroom before the built-in break, or that holding it in will literally distract me from the exam. Are you allowed to bring caffeine pills/5 hour energy type drinks into the exam room (in your ziplock bag)? I was thinking that could be a half-way solution.

Thanks for your thoughts.

example; PT79S4Q5

So they are disagreeing each other about what value means: property value vs. value itself has (not necessarily property value)

Is this correct?

I thought it's so rare that they start to ask those questions again...at some point I think they stopped to ask a vocab question.

Do you think they start to incorporate old questions again?

Hi everyone. One theme I've noticed in JY's videos, is that he'll identify a bunch of not both or either or rules, and then chose one to put on the chart. LSAT 36/Sec4/Game1 is an example. He puts the either or, but not the not both rule on the chart. How do we know when/which to put on? Thanks!

Hi 7sagers

I'm writing this Dec and possibly Feb from how things have been shaped.

I need some advice from those who have overcome similar problems as mine...

I have been battling LR for the past month or so and I have consistently been only getting around 14-16 right. I speed up to 23 questions, I get 7-8 wrong, I slow down to 18 Q's and still make around 3 mistakes. My goal is to hit atleast 20 on LR and I need some advice on how to get more accurate. As this road block has been keeping me back for sometime! I know one week might not be enough, but still I need a game plan; not just for this week but probably also after Dec for Feb.

Any help would be appreciated...

Hello,

I was wondering which is better in terms of:

-sleep well

-no anxiety on the test day

Is it better to stay in a hotel close to the test center for a day or two, or commute from home?

What are you going to do?

Thanks,

I reviewed the PT76 LR section today and can't find the experimental section for LR. I had five sections on my PT76 while the 7sage only have four sections' explanation. Any idea?

so i got a call from the person who is proctoring me for my accomodated lsat and i find out that instead of my test being on the 3rd of next month its on the 6th, still at 8:30. has anyone experienced anything like this? i dont mind a later date though it does change up my schedule. my big question is that with the extra 3 days, would i be getting the same test as everyone else or would i be getting a new one and will it still have the test section

Have anyone done a PT when you were sick..? How did it affect you?

I think sometimes they disagree each other in both premise and conclusion, (different premises and lead to opposite conclusions)

and sometimes they only disagree with either premise or conclusion. (arrive at the same conclusion using different premises or using the same premise but arrive at the different conclusion)

When they have opposite conclusions and different premises, the question can really ask either about premise and concision discrepancy right?

For example, PT79S4Q20.

They disagree with both premises conclusions right?

The conclusions are implied---For Edgar, the conclusion is do NOT shutdown, but for Rafaela, DO shutdown.

Near the start of this video lesson in the Causation and Phenomenon-Hypothesis Questions group, JY points out that a stem which says, "Which of the following, if true, most strongly supports the ... argument?" is actually a strengthening question and admonishes us not to confuse it with a MSS stem!

Yes, he gives a persuasive reason -- the direction of support is here consistent with strengthening and not with MSS -- but what the hell? If the stem isn't going to indicate the type of the question, why are we reading it first and using it to guide reading of the stimulus?

Cornell law's app says to include a resume that lists: "Work experience, including full-time, part-time, summer."

So this means I should have a longer resume for Cornell that includes pretty much every job I've had right? Sure, I won't include random jobs during high school, but can I go ahead and include the random summer job during college, and some other part-time jobs I've had? I hadn't included these initially due to getting my resume down to one page, but if Cornell wants it all, I'm happy to oblige.

As a second time test-taker, I'm experiencing a motivation slump with the core curriculum and can't get through it as efficiently as I'd like to. Everybody's who has successfully completed the CC, how'd you do it? =D

Hi All,

This might be a stupid question to ask but is there a common section where the LSAC places their experimental section in the test? For example, is the experimental section more likely to show up in the first 3 sections as opposed to the last 2? Are there some ways to tell if a section is experimental or not? I was just curious to see if they are always random or if there are some patterns as to where they get placed etc... Thanks!

Hey guys,

A 7Sager sent me an email today and I thought you guys could help out! Here it is:

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I'm preparing to take the LSAT this December so this message is quite urgent.

I've been practicing and I'm feeling confident but I'm having a hard time with the very basic concept of sufficient and necessary conditions. On the surface I understand it but then I read contradictory information.

My question is, well let me use an example.

If I take the LSAT, I must get into Osgoode.

LSAT (sufficient) -->OS (necessary)

Contrapositive

/OS-->/LSAT

If I didn't get into Osgoode I didn't take the LSAT.

-What can I tell you if I got into Osgoode?

-NOTHING because from the necessary condition alone, I could of taken the LSAT or I could of not.

-I get that the occurrence of the necessary condition does not mean the sufficient must also occur, cool.

But I cannot figure out if when:

1. The sufficient condition occurs does the necessary condition have to occur?

2. Can the sufficient condition occur without the necessary condition?

3. What happens when you satisfy the sufficient condition?

For logic games with conditional rules

ex. If F3-->G2

-Let's say "F" is in 4 so I'm correct to say "G" can be anywhere inclucing spot 2?

Please help me clarify.

Basically, I am taking a cab to staten island and will need my phone to call another cab to get home to Brooklyn. I can't leave my phone in my car if I don't have a car, and if I don't bring it at all, should I just ask someone, like one of the proctors, if I can use their phone at the end of the LSAT, so I can get home? A trivial issue, but I would prefer not to be stranded....

Do you answer those questions by memory or go back to the passage?

Or like...

After you finish reading passage A you go through all questions?

The subject step is mentioned once in Logical Reasoning General Approach as the first step after identifying that the stimulus does not contain an argument;

And it is mentioned twice in Logical Reasoning Flow Chart: once as above, but then again, for all question types, just before scanning answer choices for ones to be eliminated.

What does it mean?

I have always been the type of person to change answers based on a repeating pattern because "there's no way they would put 4 C's in a row, right?!?!", so I just wanted to share a portion of the answer key to of one of my practice exams that I wrote (PT 19, Section 4 LR)

15.C

16.C

17.B

18.C

19.C

20.C

21C

There you have it 6/7 answers were C. Let this be a reminder to see through the mind tricks they throw at you!

What is the first sentence?

I thought this is the conclusion because it says "undeniably"...

and all the rest are premise :(

Hi

So I asked my professor to write a letter and she said yes, but until I take the test she will not write one for me...

Does this happen to you?

Because if after the test, it takes a month to see the result and if she starts to write a letter after that it will take more time.

In fact, the other day when I asked her she said she may not be able to write depending on the deadline.

so...when should I ask her then?

I'm not even sure when I will take the test...