Did this RC section seem exceptionally hard to anyone else besides me?

If I had three LR sections, one first, third, and last which one was the experimental section?

I just took the June test today and it seems that the general consensus online is that the RC was incredibly difficult.

For context, RC is usually my worst section, with me going about -6 each time, and LR is my best, where I usually finish with 5+ min remaining per section. I've been studying for years and only sometimes break the 170 wall on PTs.

My issue is that on this test I found the RC surprisingly doable; I clicked with each passage and felt that I fully understood the theme, structure, author's intent, etc. for each passage.

However, I feel that I got bent over and shafted on all 3 LR sections (I had exp. LR) and ran out of time and had to guess at least one question as a result on each section.

To my surprise, everyone on the reddit thread seems to be upset over the RC, with some saying it was the most difficult one they've ever encountered, and are pretty "meh" about the LR. Meanwhile, I'm sitting here feeling pretty confident about the RC but every now and then I have to wipe away the tears gently dripping onto my desk from remembering the LR.

Anyone else in the same boat? I'm starting to feel that maybe I didn't do as well on RC as I thought I did :((/p)

Hi everyone,

I plan on fool proofing LG using the typical method of using the PT 1-35 bundle. I was just wondering what are people's thoughts on fool proofing LG by type versus just going through the bundle from PT 1 to 35 in order. I read the Pacifico guide and he states that one shouldn't record the type of game one attempts, which makes sense to me, since we don't have that luxury during real test conditions. However, I have since read some other guides by people who have done really well on LG, and they recommend drilling by LG type (I guess to really drill the strategies for each type) So I am now having second thoughts!

So, I guess I'd just like some input from the high LG scorers out there, what are the pros and cons of fool proofing by type/not, and what method do you think is more useful for a beginner?

Thanks!

How did people find this section? It seemed pretty smooth but not enough to compensate from the hardest RC ever

I have a new Preptest 79 that I bought on Amazon and didn't use that someone who needs it can have for free. I can mail it to you if you message me your address. I'll post an update once it's taken.

So as I am going about my studying I am finding that flaw questions are particularly hard for me. I have noticed a pattern though. I get roughly 60% of flaw questions correct. The way the questions answers are worded is what trips me up. I have noticed there are two "kinds" of flaw answer choices. There are those that relate the answers directly back to the stimulus;

Example - 62-4-11

The reporter concludes from the evidence showing only M can cure athlete's foot that M always can cure athletes foot.

or there are those that make the flaw abstract;

Examples - 64-3-14

It repudiates a claim merely on the grounds that an inadequate argument had been given for it

It fails to consider that, even if an argument's conclusion is false, some of the assumptions used to justify that conclusion nonetheless be true.

It is these that I answer with almost 0 confidence and inevitably get wrong. Thinking about it deeper, I can almost never describe a flaw in abstract form. I have decent success on LR (-6 to -8) per section because I can read the stimulus and in that specific instance patch the holes/connect the bridges/strengthen/weaken. I can never tell exactly WHAT the author has made a mistake on.

Obviously this is a problem. If not just for flaw questions alone. This contributes to about -4ish questions per test because flaws questions appear roughly 8 times.

What can I do to train myself on these kind of questions?

Hey guys,

Do you go back to review your wrong questions, such as one week later after the blinde review? or do you review them before the real LSAT test?

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hi friends, does anyone know if

any info appreciated, good luck to everyone, may we all get into our dream schools xx

Hi everyone! I wrote the LSAT today but am almost 100% positive I'm going to rewrite. I found 7Sage quite late in my prep (heartbreaking as this is such an amazing resource) and I definitely want to follow one of schedules here, but does anyone know what to pursue for the purpose of retaking?

Thanks!

So I have accommodations (time and a half - 53 minutes per section) and just finished the test a little while ago. Something weird as hell happened... The proctor was timing us (me and one other person) incorrectly!

I had the bezel on my watch set to the minute hand when we started and at minute 43, the protcor said 5 minutes remaining and I was like ??? but thought maybe I messed up my watch or something so I just accepted I had 5 minutes left and finished the first section accordingly. At the end of section 1, I thought about saying something but stupid me fell victim to authority worship and assumed that I was in the wrong and didn't say anything in the very short time we had before moving to section 2.

Now it's minute 43 in section 2 and once again, proctor calls 5 minute warning. At this point, I know I'm not wrong and she definitely messed up somehow so I push past my initial outrage/disbelief and keep moving with 5 minutes left. As soon as she calls time for section 2, I immediately tell her that I'm almost entirely certain we didn't get the appropriate time for the last 2 sections. After brief discussion, she says that she knows what time we started and if by the end of section 3, the time isn't adding up, she'll give us that time back at the end.

Lo and behold, we finish section 3 (this time after the full 53 minutes) and at the break, she realizes I was right and that we were gypped of 5 minutes from both section 1 and 2. She talked to the supervisor and did allow us to go back to each section for 5 minutes once we had finished the test but before the essay.

Obviously, that whole fuck up threw off my mental game and presumably negatively affected my score. Not to mention that section 2 was RC so those 5 minutes weren't nearly as useful at the end because I had to waste time skimming a passage again because I naturally forgot some of the details after a few hours.

I figure I should email LSAC about this whole situation but I was wondering if any of you have had something similar happen and if so, what did you do about it? I'm not sure what LSAC could do aside from maybe a refund of the registration fee. Tbh I'm not even sure what I want them to do about it.

Any advice or input on my situation would be very much appreciated!

Any thoughts? How did you guys feel about it?

I got 3 sections, 2 with 25 questions and 1 with 26 questions.

I think I did OK... but totally bombed the RC...

For those of you who have taken the test,

does the real bubble sheet look exactly like the ones at the end of the preptest booklet with one page?

Or is it like a 10 page booklet with instructions, combined with writing sample section, etc.

Hello everyone,

I am a complete novice to this journey. I recently started visiting law schools and was told a strong LSAT can curb my low undergrad GPA. (I graduated in 2013, my professional experience will be important in my application)

Can someone explain some of the words, abbreviations or acronyms I see related to taking practice tests.

What is a "blind review"? Are there other types of reviews you can do?

I have scheduled my self for my diagnostic test June 3 , any tips? Did you use an app to time yourself during the test? Is it best I I take the test at home? Or in a library to mimic test conditions?

Thank you all in advance!

Hi everyone,

I have crippling allergies. My sinuses feel so heavy that I can hardly keep my head up. It even affects my vision. To make matters worse, I just ran out of my medication and have to wait until tomorrow to get it refilled. Obviously, doing trickier games when in this condition is probably not the best idea (I tried and failed miserably). You miss things that normally you would get, etc.

Is the move here just to wait until I have my meds? I'm itching to do more games and get even quicker with LR as I'm reading closer and selecting the correct answer with more ease each day.

It's frustrating that we're people and apparently aren't invincible.

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Thanks everyone for showing up last night! It was awesome having that many people actively discussing the PT. Hopefully we can keep up the momentum.

This week we are going doing the following :

PT: 49

Experimental Section: LR#2 from PT56

(I recommend inserting the experimental in between sections 2 and 3, or 3 and 4)

Date: Sunday, June 11th

Time: 7:00pm Eastern / 6:00pm Central / 4:00pm Pacific

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I'm planning on writing my LSAT in February 2018. I have access to the Ultimate+ 7sage course until November 2018.

Once the June, September and December 2017 LSATs are released, will I have 7sage access to them? Specifically, will I be able to input my raw and BR scores in analytics (with video answers*) like the other practice tests, or is there an additional charge to do so?

*I understand that this will take time, and that's totally okay, I just want to know if I'll have access to them eventually (without paying extra).

I'm pretty sure law schools take the highest score out of the LSAT's taken, but would anyone know if this is true or how to find out? Does it depend on the school?

PT 1-35 for drilling material is no longer on my course/syllabus and I can't find them anywhere on 7Sage anymore...Is this gone for other people too?

Thanks all!!

Please note that the information below will change to reflect the information we get! Contribute if you can via the official June 2017 LSAT discussion (linked at the bottom of this thread) without going into too much detail. If you think something is wrong or should be added, please post in the thread and let me know.

Real Sections:

LG:

Urban Rural Magazine

Travellers & Cities (Tokyo, Sydney, Manila)

Obstacle Course

Composer Scheduling Performances

RC:

Wynton Marsalis / Jazz

Dowsing

Children / Psychologists / Inferences

Appellate / Evidence / Trial Courts

LR:

Car Safety Tests

Chimpanzee and Orangutans / Screwdrivers

Nobel Prize

Chlorophyll/Bacteria

Marsupials Breathing Through Skin

People on Treadmills

Neutrons and Quarks

Movie Reviewers

Factory Smoke / Nuclear Accident / Heavy Isotope / Earth's Core

Vampire Books

Mosquitoes Sensing Gasses from Humans

Salespeople not using a Database

Keeping State Secrets

Free Speech / Shouting "FIRE!" in a Crowded Theatre

Draining a Marsh / Environmental Effects

Man Creates Fire

Moose Antlers

Experimental Sections:

LG:

Kittens/Puppies

Types of Beer / Brewery

Museum

Flower

Grooming

5 Tasks/Wardrobe, Props

RC:

Ancient North America Structures Based off of Astronomy/Supernova

Shelley / 14th Amendment

Earthquakes

LR:

Train Clocks

Perception of Average Wait Time

Blowdrying Hands

Mammoth Engraving on Bone

UNCONFIRMED:

If you can confirm that these are real / experimental, please do so by PMing me or posting in the main thread.

LR:

This thread is closed for discussion. Official post June LSAT discussion is stickied at the top of the forums.

Don't show weakness. You're ready. make sure to relax during the test if you feel yourself spazzing out. A little stress will keep you alert so don't panic if you feel your heart start to beat a little faster than normal. Fight or flight kicks in and you're going

to fight your ass off because you're no chump. youve been taking tests your whole life. It's nothing. Don't scramble when the proctor tells you to start. Take an extra second, breathe, and begin. Cool as ice. You've done this before.

I'm thinking of bringing an extra few (or more than few?) gallon bags to the test center to give to people who didn't realize they have to put everything in one. Maybe it will give me a few extra karma points?! Thoughts? Who's with me? #letsgo

Im considering upgrading my course from starter to ultimate plus, but would it be worth investing in ultimate plus, if you already own all the LSAC PT series books?

Hi! I will be writing the LSAT in September, and I have 3 months in hand. I had started studying for the basics in late April, using PTs 52-61 and the LSAT Trainer and 7sage videos for logic games. I have been getting almost all of my LR and LG questions right by this point, but I take too much time to reach the answer in every question, especially in LR. What can I do now to work on my speed and keep up the accuracy?

Thanks in advance!