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I just received my June score and while respectable, it isn't high enough for HYS so I'll be retaking in September. My biggest issue with getting back to studying is that I feel I've fully understood the core curriculum and I've now also used up the later PTs. I also worked through the LG Bible and LSAT Trainer. Drilling and BRing was my preferred strategy the first time, but I'm a little lost on how I should go forward from here. Is re-doing PTs even helpful? Any advice would be hugely appreciated!

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Hey everybody - just joined 7sage a few weeks ago and have been absolutely loving the curriculum. I took the LSAT last January and prepared by using Mike Kim's LSAT Trainer (great book) and scored a 165 which I'm proud of, but want to really bust into a significantly higher score.

Anyways, I'm just wondering if there are people out there who have done so on the actual test by using 7sage. I know there are, and I thought there might be a thread dedicated to people celebrating their success - I just haven't been able to find it! If so, someone please kindly direct me to the right place. :) I'm just looking for some real-life motivation!

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Hey guys,

I just signed up with 7Sage a few weeks ago and am currently going through the curriculum (should be on track to finish early August). Surfing through past BR group discussions, it seems like a good idea to get an early start on organizing a BR group. I'm aiming to take the LSAT in December. Anyone else interested in getting the ball rolling on a December 2016 BR group?

Best,

Michael

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-june-2007-section-2-question-08/

For this particular question, I'm having trouble understanding why answer choice E is incorrect. Because we know that the batteries that power electric cars come from nuclear or coal plants, and since we know that those power sources causes significant environmental damage, is it logical to state that there may not be a net reduction of environmental degradation? Saying that there won't be a reduction in environmental degradation seemed logical to me because it hints at 2 possibilities: 1. the considerable environmental damage caused by the battery production will produce the damage as would the emissions of an ordinary car. 2. The battery production will produce more damage than the emissions from a ordinary car.

I also had a hard time understanding why answer choice A is correct. The proponents beliefs seemed to talk about the abatement of environmental degradation specifically linked to a decrease in auto-emissions rather than an overall abatement of environmental degradation, while the author seem to not directly touch on the proponents point but rather mention an additionally concern of battery production. Even though battery production creates causes its own environmental damage, isn't it still the case that there is a decrease of environmental degradation that specifically arises from auto-emissions, because of the fact that electric cars don't have its own emissions. If that case is true, wouldn't the proponents stance hold and the environmental consequences aren't as worse as proponents believe them to be.

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As advised by JY and other top scorers, one of the main priorities during serious PT phase is to cut out Under-confidence time sinks during a timed PT. Know your strengths, pick your answer and move on; Know your weaknesses and skip as needed to get the easiest points in your wheel-house.

Hmmm, just trying to implement a Skipping strategy caused chaos during my timed PT's. For those of you on the BR calls, I have been very vocal about how it was difficult to make that transition and not completely undermine any confidence I had answering the questions. Thanks to everyone and their advice on different skipping strategies - markings and notations to be able to go back to questions if I had a bank of time left, etc. I highly recommend using re-takes as you are trying to implement any new strategy. I also recommend video tape a section at least once, it can be very painful in post-analysis - or for me it was painful just being aware of my timing issues while I was taping:)

My notation during a timed PT is a slight dash under a question to review under BR b/c I want to revisit the explanation, circle the Question number that I am about 80% or between to AC's, and write a big S at the top of the page with Q# that I completely skipped. Not the best system but ever evolving.

Darn you @"Nicole Hopkins" with all my heart!! Last night on your office hours, I asked you how to eliminate under-confidence issues. Well, thanks a whole heck of a lot:( heehee:)

When you shared your beast of BR process for LR, I "wasted" a few hours today after a timed section writing out breakdowns of Q's that I was 100% confident. I have always tried to stick to a thorough BR of questions understanding why each AC was right or wrong for the Q's I circled or skipped. I never really paid much attention to the Q's I put a hash mark under other than verifying my AC was correct. Implementing your strategy to literally write out an explanation in sentence form of my entire thought process for every question that I was confident but "casually" hash marked was incredibly frustrating.

Honest evaluation: The problem in Under-confidence rears its ugly head when I am marking too many questions for review later providing a safety net keeping me from exposing Over-confidence errors.

I learned an incredible lesson tonight and will try to take this experience and knowledge into my future PTs to balance confidence issues to help my obtain my personal LSAT goals.

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Hey, everyone. In my quest to become an LSAT test-taking machine, I made some digital flashcards to help me memorize some key concepts in LR:

-- Valid/Invalid argument forms

-- Logical Fallacies

-- Stimuli Indicators (premise/conclusion, sufficient/necessary, causation, some/most/all)

-- Question Stems

-- Strategies by Question Type

I'm going to flip through these every day from now until the September test date until they can instantly be recalled from memory. And obviously, they're a compliment--not a substitute--for other forms of preparation. I thought I'd pass them along, just in case you find them useful, too.

If you like them, great!

If you don't like them, please tell me how you think they can be improved.

If you spot an error, please let me know.

If you have some great flashcards that help you memorize important LSAT info, please pass it along, too.

Thanks!

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The title speaks for itself! Besides the typical movies such as The Paper Chase and To Kill A Mocking Bird, my favorite movie that has a law vibe to it is My Cousin Vinny. Not the typical movie to give you that lawyer feeling but it's funny and thought provoking at the same time. Now post yours :D

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I'm so confused on exactly what "memorizing the inferences" mean in the fool proof method. So far for each clean copy, I have been reading the background info above the rules in a swift manner (as if it's a real test) b/c I feel like that's more realistic in terms of timing on the actual test. I then read the rules and make my diagrams and inferences and do the questions. But I feel like maybe i'm doing it wrong. please help!!!

My Questions .....

1. Do I still read the background info above the rules each time I do a clean copy? Or do I skip down to the rules?

2. And do I still do the questions? And if you still do each question, you obviously know the answer. So should i still stick to the diagram and deduct my answer that way?

3. When making these inferences...the first 5 times you're probably still looking at the rules. Is the ultimate goal to be able to make the inference WITHOUT looking at the rules?

Thank you all so much! please help! I don't want to do all the fool proof method wrong and find out hundreds of practices later.

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I took the June LSAT and scored a 162, which is significantly worse than I performed on most of my PTs, and certainly not the score I need for my application. I've registered for the September LSAT, and want to be doing all I can within a certain budget to ensure my score is in the mid-170s, and not the low 160s. Maybe there is a better method for getting this information tailored to my specific circumstances, but perhaps you all can steer me in the right direction. Thanks!

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    "Reasonable people.."

    I got this wrong and then tried redoing it in blind review (I drilled this question type in a set of 40 questions). In BR I chose C. My approach to the problem the second time around was to diagram this:

    RP --> ASW (first sentence)

    RP --> AWS (second sentence)

    ---------------------------------------------------------

    P --> RP (conclusion)

    So I went into this thinking I needed to link progress and unreasonable people.

    What confused me was the last sentence, which I assumed was the conclusion. I was not sure if progress or unreasonable people was the necessary condition. Then I thought if I substituted "depends on" with "requires" it would make unreasonable people the necessary condition, still I was not confidant my approach was correct.

    I think A is irrelevant and D is wrong because we are not concerned with the subset that are unable to bring progress. Can someone help me understand why the others are wrong and why B is correct? Is my reasoning/approach to this question wrong?

    Please help!!!

    Thank you in advance.

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    Hi. I've been studying independently for a retake in June 2017. I may take it sooner but that's my target date for now. I haven't been able to find a consistent study buddy/group through the 7Sage Study Buddy feature, so I'm posting here to reach more people. I'm from the northwest Chicago suburban area.

    I'd prefer to meet in person at a minimum of once every other week with online communication in between, but I'm open to meeting 100% online, particularly if we are otherwise a good fit. My diagnostic was a 157. My actual score was a 162. I'm looking for buddies who are scoring 160+ and are aiming for 170+. Though my actual test says otherwise, throughout my PTs, my weakest section has been LG and my strongest RC. I'd like to study with others who complement my abilities and those who are similar to me. I want to take timed five-section exams with my buddy/group in person or online, BR independently, and then discuss together. It does not matter to me when you'll be taking the exam although if you are planning to take it far earlier or later than I am, we may have pacing issues.

    Leave a response if you're interested in being buddies or forming a group. Thanks!

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    I know why the credited response (E) is correct.

    However i'm having a tough time seeing how (B) and (C) are incorrect.

    I initially picked (B)

    My reasoning was that the opponent raises an important point: That irradiation fails to neutralize the bacteria that cause botulism and in fact aids it by concealing its warning signs. This seems to contradict the proponent's conclusion that there is no reason to reject irradiation as far as health and nutrition is concerned.

    For (C) there appears to be two remedies for keeping food from being spoiled by bacteria the first is: irradiation brought up by the proponent and the second is chemical dip method brought up by the opponent. the opponent seems to bring up a consequence of the first remedy (failing to kill bacteria that cause botulism which can lead to serious food poising).

    If someone could help me out with this that you be awesome, thanks!

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-35-section-1-question-05/

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    Should I write an addendum asking admissions to see my undergraduate transcript for a better reflection of my GPA than the LSAC academic summarization? I had two one credit classes that I was given a "No Credit" for, but these classes were pass/fail and did not count towards my GPA. My GPA is .06 difference between the two reports. Not only this, but I had no idea I was ever enrolled in the classes. While I know I can call my undergrad institution to get them removed, I'm worried I won't have time for this with final deadlines approaching for fall admissions. Does admissions even look at my undergrad transcript or do they only look at the LSAC summarization? Need some advice!

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    Hello everyone, I seem to be having some issues with negating sentences, some things are very obvious, but others are not. for example

    1)The Fine arts would be more highly developed now if they had been given greater governmental subsidies in the past.

    (what is the best way to analyze this sentence to figure out how to negate it)

    2)If contemporary governments help to maintain and enrich the fine arts, private support for the arts will become necessary

    (what is the best way to analyze this sentence to figure out how to negate it)

    3)in contemporary societies, aristocracies and religious institutions are not willing to help finance the fine ares

    for a sentence like this i just take the rule, that if i see the word NOT, i will just remove the word NOT)

    4)Serving as stewards of cultural heritage requires that contemporary societies help to maintain the fine arts.

    (what is the best way to analyze this sentence to figure out how to negate it)

    5)Maintenance, advancement, and enrichment of the fine arts in any era require governmental subsidies.

    (what is the best way to analyze this sentence to figure out how to negate it)

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    Hi guys,

    I'm sure this has already been discussed on 7sage.. however, I have been out of the 7sage loop for a couple of months and am not too sure where to find this, if that is the case.

    I'm wondering.. are there any advantages (or disadvantages) for Sept. test-takers v. Dec. in regards to the admission process? I'm debating between the two for consideration to law school Sept. 2017. Obviously, Dec. would be favourable due to the additional study time, but if Sept. is advantageous for e.g. early admissions, more spots available etc., I would definitely consider this.

    Any advice and/or information is welcomed and appreciated.

    Thanks in advance,

    Maxine

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    Hi All.

    Thanks to all who have taken the time to answer all my questions. It's time for me to give back. I'm sure there are various ways people are making their 10-20 fresh copies of the games. But this is how I do it and it literally cannot get any easier. Takes me less than 15 seconds per game to print. The big assumption here of course is that you gotta a physical copy of the test. So... here are the steps.

    1. Get the TurboScan App. (Not free but costs you less than 1/2 of a cup of starbucks) 1 min.

    2. Take a pic of the test page (fit it just right in your frame). 0.1 second.

    3. From the Turboscan app, find that picture and choose the b/w option at the bottom right corner (It gives you photo, b/w color options if you tap through the same area). 2 seconds.

    4. The App will automatically frame it for you so it's a perfectly straight copy even if your picture was crooked. And you can adjust the corners to make it perfectly straight for all my OCD peeps out there. This step is automatic but I just wanted to elaborate.

    5. Print! If you have an airPrint print the you can do it directly from your phone and you can choose the # of copies you want. If you need more. Repeat steps 3 since you already have the picture. Just choose the game you want and print. If you don't have AirPrint, you can just email it to yourself and print from there.

    I hope this helps those who are having problems making fresh copies the games !

    #let's do this!!!

    ~ coolmama ~

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