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Hi everyone,

So I printed out all my logic games and put them in sheet protectors so I could do the games with a fine-tip dry erase pen. It beats having to print massive amounts of paper for each game..Instead, I just erase everything after each attempt. It's just like having a brand new game. But after a few weeks of doing this, it occurred to me that I may be completely missing something about this method, that it may be inherently flawed. Does anyone have any feedback on using this method? Obviously it's not the same as taking pencil to paper, but it has saved me the trouble of printing...thanks for the feedback!

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This is a Necessary Assumption question. Could someone explain how Answer B is incorrect and Answer D is correct?

Answer B speaks to the gap (Detergent formulated for front-load dissolves more readily). Negating Answer B (Detergent formulated for front-load does NOT dissolve more readily) wrecks the conclusion because it removes the salient difference compared to ordinary detergent that the argument makes.

In contrast, Answer D provides a Sufficient Assumption to a Necessary Assumption question. Negating Answer D (It's not true that [detergent gets clothes really clean --> detergent dissolves readily in washer]) does not wreck the conclusion. Perhaps a detergent formulated for FLW simply requires less water to be just as effective as an ordinary detergent in a TLW. Or perhaps a detergent formulated for FLW has a special cleaning agent to compensate for not dissolving as readily. So on and so forth: In all cases, Sufficient does not equal Necessary.

Furthermore, working from wrong-to-right I eliminated Answer D as a trap. Answer D provides a "firmer" (conditional guarantee!) response more appropriate to a SA question. In contrast, Answer B provides a "softer" (comparative) response appropriate to most NA questions.

Thanks in advance for your help!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-70-section-1-question-21/

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Tuesday, Jun 14, 2016

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Yesterday I finallyyy got my Preptests 52-77 in the mail. I put them away and told myself I wouldn't take one until next week because that's what the study schedule I'm on says to do but I've been studying for almost 2 months and haven't taken another PT since my diagnostic and I'm really itching to take one just to see if there's been any signicificant improvement.... Would this be a waste of a perfectly good PT?

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I make a bubbling error nearly every practice test. In fact, I can't recall, the last time I have not made a bubbling error. I record my answers on the Analytics page as they are on the Scantron because I will likely perform on the real test as I do on practice tests (as I have already learned from taking a real test and making a Scantron error). This way, my score reflects not which answers I circle in the booklet, but which answers I successfully record on the Scantron and are ultimately used in my real score.

How do you score PT bubbling errors (if you make any at all... if that's the case, please share your bubble mojo)?

A note, I bubble and double-check after every game, after every RC section, and once before turning the page in an LR section. I'm thinking of changing my strategy, as it's clearly not working for me.

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Hello, I've been studying rather ineffectively on my own since January until May, which was when I got 7Sage. Although I must say my understanding and ability to answer questions correctly greatly increased many fold, I am struggling with the level 5 hardest questions, such as RC and LR (THIS one especially). Like many people, I would want to get a 170+ (And I truly believe 7Sage is able to help many people including myself in doing this), I do know that it is best to be able to tackle every question possible to maximize those chances. Is there a specific strategy in tackling these? Or is it the same standard core curriculum strategies, but to a mastery level form? (And extremely careful reading...) I'm doing pretty well on everything else, but once I go up against these level 5 questions, I get destroyed, with the occasional correct one or two.

On another note, I intend on taking the September LSAT. I'm just wondering if 40 hour week study sessions throughout the summer will help me get to the 170+ area.

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Hello,

As many of you have probably noticed, PT 39 - PT 51 is very difficult to obtain in 2016 unless you have money to blow. So the only thing I can utilize is the posted questions provided by 7sage. This limits my ability to use it as a practice test and thus, I tend to use it for drilling. Anyone have any advice on this?

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Hi guys. So over the years, starting from first year I looked at questions from the 2007 preptest just because it was free. Now it is spoiled as my diagnostic...so do I need to take it? I also studied for 3 weeks before taking this course so I have an understanding of what each section entails.

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Hi guys,

I was wondering if its recommended to do some light studying during the wait period or to just have 3 weeks off while waiting for the scores to arrive. I have studied the LSATs for almost 2 years but am still concerned if my skills would deteriorate if I didn't do some studying within the three weak period.

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    Hey guys,

    I am taking the September LSAT and after reading a good number of people saying how the June LSAT was easy to moderate I am getting nervous. While my "theory" has not evidence to back it up whatsoever I am afraid the September LSAT will be much harder. Could there be any truth to it?

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    So, I have been reading a lot of posts on here and it seems like those who score in the 170s (my dream score), studied for about a year to a year and a half.

    What I want to know is that is this time spent from start to finish, non-stop? Or on and off?

    I've been at it for about 11 months on and off, and approximately 3 months consistently (at least an hour everyday with days of break every now and then).

    Any help and/or info is much appreciated. Thanks all!

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    Hello everyone! This is my first time posting here on 7Sage. I have been reading a lot of the forum posts, hoping to find an answer to my question but I couldn't, so here it is. I took the June 2016 Administration of the LSAT and I am in need of opinions on whether or not I should cancel my score, as today is the last day to do so.

    Some background on my situation:

    I first took the LSAT during the middle of my junior year in college, December 2014. I had not prepared at all and knew next to nothing about the test and so just registered and took it. Based on the fact that I knew nearly nothing at all about the LSAT and the rigor it demands, my score was not surprising, and I scored an abysmal 138. I took this as a learning experience, however, and decided to study after I completed my final year of undergrad. I graduated with a 3.86 GPA in May 2015 and I was proud to have earned that, but I knew it was time to buckle down for the LSAT. Beginning during the first week of July, I began to study using the Powerscore LG Bible. It helped me gain a nice foundation for logic games but it didn't put me over the edge, in terms of mastering them. I studied on and off like this for months... signed up for the December 2015 LSAT and I ended up withdrawing because my biggest fear was/is wasting my GPA and accepting a mediocre LSAT score.

    I got a tutor during the last week of January 2016 and began to see major improvements in my logic games. It was incredible. I should say also, that I partnered my tutoring with 7Sage's free logic games video explanations and my score sky-rocketed! I had gone from getting only 8 correct in a section, to consistently getting no less than 17 correct in a section and climbing! With this success, I decided to sign up for the June 2016 Administration. As the test got closer, however, I noticed that I was peaking at scores of mid-to-high 150's. This was NOT anywhere near my goal of 170+ but I was convinced to take the test anyway, after I learned that multiple takes were not going to kill me.

    I sat for the test and came out of there feeling defeated. I found that the games section was very doable but I found myself running out of time. Then my reasoning sections were touch and go, they truly were a blur to me. My reading comp (my weakest section) was tough but I found myself blanking on my second RC section (which luckily turned out to be the experimental section). Overall, I found myself completely guessing for at least the last 10 questions of every single section, and that being said, I don't think I had good accuracy when it came to the questions I actually got to attempt. This made me feel extremely uneasy, following the test.

    Now, ever since this past Tuesday morning, I've been wrestling with the idea of whether or not to cancel. I already have a 138 (December 2014) on file, and then am risking having this other miserable score on file (June 2016). I am without a doubt sitting for the test again and am planning to sign up for 7Sage's curriculum, since they've helped my LG significantly.

    My biggest worry is that I'll have to explain 2 miserable scores and then have that third out-of-the-park score. I am aware that most schools will only use my highest score to evaluate me as a candidate, but I can't help but think that 2 bad scores will hurt me, as opposed to having a poor score, a cancel, and then the high score.

    What should I do?

    Thanks for reading, if you've read this far and I apologize for the long post.

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    When a problem says: Grace helps move the sofa if but only if Heather helps move the recliner, do I diagram it as: Gs(------)Hr or Hr(----)Gs, or does it matter either way? Also are "if BUT only if" and "if AND only if" diagrammed differently or the same?

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    If it is true that most schools other than Yale do not penalize for multiple takes...

    Unless something happened during the test that was extremely detrimental to your scoring potential, I would not cancel...

    Post-test anxiety is a given but you never want to waste a take.

    7Sage and the BR process has given us pre-testers a way to try to evaluate our decision choices under "optimum" test conditions. If you sat for the test and cancel your score, you have nothing to gain from the experience other than sitting for 5+ hours in a testing room and have to trust your memory on AC's once the test is released to everyone.

    Why would you want to give up the chance to have your answer sheet and the scored test for you to evaluate your decisions and choices during "real" conditions? The opportunity to be able to seriously BR the heck out of the test could mean serious gains on the next take if needed.

    Always a personal decision, but I hope this helps:)

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    Hey Guys,

    I know it's not a fun topic, but I am really struggling with the question of whether to cancel my score and would appreciate some advice. My situation is a bit unusual so I've found most of the advice out there to be not that helpful. (tl;dr - too busy at work, wasn't ready for June but took it anyway, will do better in sept., should I cancel?)

    In January, I registered for the June exam. I am a legal assistant at a v5 firm and shortly after registering was assigned to a new case that was going to trial. I worked 85+ hour weeks from mid-March thru 2.5 weeks before the June exam, and thus did no prep at all during that time.

    The biggest problem at this point was that I hadn't yet "learned" logic games. I knew I couldn't do that in two weeks, but continued to work as hard as I could, prepping 7 hours per weekday and 10 on weekends, plus 6 hours of tutoring. The tutoring was great, and gave me the tools I need to work most effectively over this summer for September. I went into the exam knowing well that I was not ready and would not perform to my highest potential. I took the test because I paid for it and felt the test day experience could only be beneficial. I was PTing around 160 and getting at least half wrong on LG. The test went fine, but I think I scored somewhere in 159-161. I am going to take September and am planning to work extremely hard until then, and I won't have the same issue with work hours. I am certain that I will do much better in September. I am aiming for at least a 165.

    The question, then, is whether it is worth having a lower score on my record if I know for a fact that I will do better in September. It seems to me that the best choice is to cancel, and that all I would get out of not canceling would be having the ability to see my score - nice, but worth it if I can avoid having a 159 on my record? If I don't cancel, I would write an addendum explaining the circumstances leading up to the exam. What do you guys think?

    Thanks so much!

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