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I went through the RC in the 70's to try to glean some more information and feel more comfortable going into the sections. Nothing super profound, but I was at least able to categorize them by their most common types. Feel free to add any other common structures that you find!

Straight/Regular Passages:

  • Topical Focus: Intro – Development – Reasoning
  • Defend an Opinion: Intro – Opinion – Reasoning – Refute Opposing Opinion (last two can be switched)
  • Phenomenon-Hypothesis: Intro/Phenomenon – Hypothesis – Reasoning/Refuting Opposing Hypothesis (last two can be switched)
  • Comparative Passages:

    Passage A:

  • Stating an Opinion: Intro – Development – Conclusion
  • Defending a Thesis: Intro – Implications – Reasoning
  • Passage B:

  • Building off of a position in Passage A and either refuting it or developing it
  • Introducing new factors and a new position of its own
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    This is a two part question in reference to the embedded conditionals video.

    https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/mastery-embedded-conditional/

    Part 1:

    Put the following sentence into Logic and contrapose it:

    If the seeds are planted in the winter, then flowers will not blossom unless fertilizer is applied.

    SPW --> (~FA-->~FB )

    which more clearly is:

    SPW and ~FA --> ~FB

    contrapositive:

    FB --> ~SPW or FA

  • Is that correct?
  • If it is correct, that makes for an odd result. If the flowers do blossom, then the seeds were NOT planted or the fertilizer is applied. That doesn't seem to make any sense at all. What am I missing here???
  • Part 2:

    Down in the comments someone asked:

    What if the parenthesis are around the 1st and 2nd elements? ie. [A -> B] -> C.

    JY responded with:

    Original: (A–>B ) –> C

    Contraposed: /C –> /(A–>B )

    Group 3: /C –> /(/A or B )

    De Morgan’s: /C –> (A and /B )

    Simplified: /C –> A, /C –> /B

    Or alternatively, we could have applied

    Group 3 translation rule first: (/A or B ) –> C

    Simplified: /A –> C, B –> C

    Where did the Group 3 come from????

    I got lost in his explanation there.

    Can someone answer that question or maybe explain it in a different way. I feel like it's very obvious, I'm just not seeing it right now.

    Thank you!

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    Hello! So I'm fool proofing the LG bundles now, at first I was doing like 6-7 new per day. Now I'm finding that by the 3-4 new LG/day it's a mental drain & I didn't take into consideration the repeats. Does anyone have a good number of LG/daily that's realistic for daily routine while keeping up with RC & LR. I'm trying to finish them within 2 months. Any feedback will be really helpful :-)

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    June'17 Weekend BR| PT 60

    Sat, Jan 28, 2017 8:00 PM EST

    It may seem like this now....but if you keep working hard one day you'll get it....or it will just be less painful haha

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    Note:

  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able on your own; then join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Win the argument with your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Hey 7Sagers,

    Little background: After going through entire Powerscore (Bibles) curriculum, i recently started 7 Sage. Initially, i was confused regarding how fast i should go through the core curriculum (CC) on 7Sage. Mentors here unanimously advised me to go through entire CC and ensure that i absorb all the content taught in CC.

    I want to ask the community what are the best practices / Strategies that they have applied when in CC phase of their LSAT prep? Could you please expand on how much note taking you did? And what did you do to reinforce the important concepts? Feel free to elaborate on any other important point in terms of going through CC.

    Can a highs corer share his or her views on this?

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    Hi everyone,

    After joining the last webinar I realized that I am not the only one who is studying with repeated preptests which that was a relief. I'm planning to write in June but if need be I can write it at a later time. Right now I'm using old preptests and use 1-15 tests as my experimental section. I have only 4 new tests (all recent ones) and I'm keeping them to write in March, April and May. I extensively BR each section. I know my scores are inflated and I know I remember at least 4-5 questions (mostly from LR). Sometimes I write the test in 33-32 minutes, and other times I give myself a penalty for those questions I remember(spending more time for the questions as if I was BR ing them). I'm keeping track of my scores and I'm having an upward trend.

    I started studying from September but not knowing where I'm sitting right now at this point is discouraging and is anything but motivating. Sometimes I wonder what if I'm not improving or if all these efforts are futile!. For those of you who practiced with old materials how did you cope with the mental and emotional exhaustion of it?

    Thank you so much:)

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    I have a question for answer choice A for the second question on "mental contortions." Although I got this question correct, I was really hesitant on marking A the right answer due to the word "beforehand." In the context of the passage, it states that "judges' instructions to juries to ignore information learned outside the courtroom" could not be "relied upon," and such instruction would become "mental contortions" to the jurors.

    In my mind, information learned outside the courtroom (where prejudice can be formed) can be formed not only before the trial, but also in the middle of a trial, and therefore, I thought answer choice A was incorrect as it limits the scope to only before the trial (hence, descriptively inaccurate). However, I eventually chose A because all the other answer choices also limited the scope to "pretrial," which really confused me...

    I'm actually a native South Korean student, so I may be unfamiliar with the concept of a "trial." If we are to assume that there is a certain case that lasts several days, and the parties of the case go to court several times to dispute the case, to my understanding, this as a whole would still be one trial. Therefore, I thought that juror prejudices could be formed in the middle of a trial (or, during a trial), as they would go to court, and then go home (get information outside the courtroom), then go to court, then go home, etc.

    I would really like some clarification on this and any help would be great!

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-27-section-3-passage-1-passage/

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-27-section-3-passage-1-questions/

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    Wednesday, Jan 25, 2017

    LG Anxiety

    Logic games used to be like another language to me but it has gotten to be my best section as of now. However, when the clock is ticking, everything i know about LG seems to go out the window. When I BR my test (during untimed conditions of corse), all the inferences that i should have made under timed conditions come to me almost instantly. Its extremely frustrating that I can do them but the pressure of time prevents me from performing to my full capability. I imagine it is because one can reasonably anticipate what the RC and LR will entail but with LG they can really throw anything at you. Does anyone else have this issue? Any tips or advice would be appreciated. I really want to get LG down pat as i'm taking the lsat next week (Feb 4th). Freezing up on LG is dramatically bringing my score down from what it can be even though I feel most prepared for it.

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    Hello everyone,

    I took the December LSAT after studying for 4 months. I did a bunch of practice questions and tests. But I was studying/reviewing the wrong way. I took the test in December, even though I did not feel ready. I am not satisfied with my score. I decided to retake the lsat in June and apply next cycle.

    If someone has been through this, could you please tell me how you used the same materials and made the best out of it?

    Thanks,

    Dodo

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    Hi all,

    Just to give you an idea of where I stand, I applied to almost all of the T14s, as well as a few schools ranked 17-25. My stats aren't that great, but I am a nontraditional student with a very interesting life story, as well as an underrepresented minority. One of my friends told me that, because of this, I would actually have a better shot of getting into a higher ranked school because they don't need to be as worried about preserving their numbers. I didn't believe her until I very recently got my first acceptance.

    So far I have been accepted into Columbia (4), waitlisted from Cornell and Georgetown (13 and 14) and rejected from Berk, Emory, and GW (8, 22, and 25). I haven't received anything about scholarships from Columbia, so I don't know how much money (if any) they are going to offer me.

    From what I have heard, you can negotiate with a given law school based off of what another law school offers you. In light of this, I am hoping that I get into a lower T14 school (like Duke or Northwestern) and use Columbia as leverage. I would love someone's opinion on how feasible that would be, as well as how the process actually works.

    Thanks in advance!!

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    Tuesday, Jan 24, 2017

    JY's Avatar

    At this point, most of us have spent many hours watching videos. Above these wonderful videos is JY's family avatar.

    BUT WHAT IS IT? Is he on a jungle gym? Behind a giant steering wheel?

    Please post hypotheses. Thank you.

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    Hi, I am having a hard time differentiating between a cause and effect and a conditional statement. Would anyone have tips or tricks?

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    Good morning! I hope all of you are doing well. I am sorry to bother you, but I was wondering what your average growth is? I took an LSAT practice with zero knowledge from the practical 10 about 6 weeks ago, and scored a 147. I only took one in the past month with only the help of the LSAT Trainer and scored a 155, and have just taken one today, after taking this course for about ten hours, and scored a 161. I have studying pretty rigidly over the last five weeks or so, or as rigidly as I can on top of teaching 27 credit hours, but I am worried that I am not on track for June's test. Is there any form of gauge for me to tell, or do any of you have any experiences you could share? Thank you so much in advanced for your time and consideration.

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    I already sent out an email to Daniel (one of the sages) about my planned schedule and wanted to receive feedback from other sages if they had the time to chime in.

    So, I've already gone through the phase of learning the fundamentals, and right now I'm trying to tackle each section individually before entering the PT and BR phase.

    So, in terms of LG, I'm in the process of foolproofing the LG Bundle from PT1-35 and right now I'm at PT 14 and I can already see my LG skills improving. I definitely do each game more than 5 times in total to make sure I have all the rules and inferences down.

    For LR, I'm taking Daniel's advice and basically going to focus on Flaw, Strengthen, and Weaken questions (7sage analytics pointed out these three areas as my main weaknesses) and starting tomorrow do 10 questions of each of those areas untimed and really break down the argument, get to the root of the argument, and try to anticipate the answers, and write out an explanation for why I think the correct answer choice is correct and why the other four are incorrect. And then I would check the answers and if I got a question incorrect, I can review it, cut it out and keep looking at it from time to time. The next day I would do the same with a different set of flaw, weaken, strengthen 10 questions each from the Cambridge packet.

    For RC, I'm trying to read a lot of difficult prose out loud each day for about an hour because it forces me to focus on difficult material, builds up my overall endurance, and increases my familiarity with different concepts. Also, I try to go through one or two RC passages a day and make sure I understand reasoning structure, any distinctions or evaluative statements/opinions.

    I'm only planning on taking a preptest only after I've done the LG foolproofing method. Do you guys have any further suggestions? Much appreciated and thank you Josh, Daniel, David, and Nadar for the awesome webinar!

    P.S. I really want to join in on the BR call but I won't be in the PT phase until next month. Should I wait?

    Thank you guys!

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    This is probably a silly question, but I'm wondering if we're supposed to do anything after receiving our acceptance letters/emails. I've heard from a few schools (sent a quick LOCI to the one that I was waitlisted to...more like an email). However, should I return emails to the schools that I have been admitted to?

    Oh, and I got a decent scholarship offer to a T40 school, but no offer from the TT school I was accepted to. I've heard of applicants being offered a scholarship after showing that they received one from other schools. How do applicants go about this?

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    Tuesday, Jan 24, 2017

    MBT & SA Inquiry

    Hey everyone, just wanted to get clarification on something. I find myself, when confronted with a MBT or SA question, immediately translating to logic. It is hard for me to find the correct answer choice otherwise. However, it does seem to eat up some time. Is there a better strategy to approach these questions? I would be very comfortable with the questions if it wasn't for the timing element, due to the formulaic nature of their structures.

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    Hello,

    Is anyone aware of LSAC having an infrequent tendency to introduce a question stem in double negatives?

    Example: Instead of stating, "Which one of the following, if true, would weaken the argument?" They otherwise state, "Each of the following, if true, does not weaken the argument EXCEPT?"

    Thank you.

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