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I need confirmation whether my understanding of OR rule is correct.

There is a rule in the last game of PT24 that says: G cannot be prescribed if both N and U are prescribed.

N & U -->/G

Contrapositive= G --> /N or /U

So there are 3 possibilities if the contrapositive is triggered: 1) N is out 2) U is out or 3) N and U are both out.

If I CHANGE the rule to G --> N or U, would 3 possibilities be 1) N is in 2) U is in or 3) N and U are both in?

Is it correct to consider OR in the above examples as inclusive(and/or), not exclusive?

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Is it possible to submit an application to a school before you even have an LSAT score on file? Since some schools review applications on a rolling basis, and since it's to your advantage to apply as early as possible, would an admissions committee review your application sooner than others if it was submitted earlier and then updated with an LSAT score several weeks later?

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Hi all,

I just took my first practice exam since taking the initial 2007 prep test. I got a 150 before the curriculum and now I'm about halfway through the curriculum and got a 157. I wanted to take a practice test because I was starting to get demoralised and wondering if all this studying was working.

This test, I did well on the games (70% accuracy) and much better on the reading comp. than last time (78%). My goal is to just get over a 160 for the June test, as the schools I'm looking at are not 'the best' just in the top 100. Is this a good improvement? I thought I'd get much higher, as I've been putting in a lot of hours and practicing. Ugh. LSAT is stressing me!

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I was going through the core curriculum and encountered this weakening question: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-27-section-4-question-18

I chose C, and the correct answer choice turned out to be B.

After going through the video, I understood that answer choice B is correct. But I still couldn't figure out why C is wrong. In the video, the explanation given is that "if they (book publisher) do make sizable money, they would continue doing it. The fact that they stop makes it even less reasonably that it is a money-grab... therefore C is incorrect".

But why? If C makes it less reasonable for book publisher to be money-grab, then it weakens the argument.

I wonder if anyone can help me on that...

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I'm trying to be ready for the June LSAT but it's becoming very difficult. I had a lot on my plate the past couple of months which really shafted my LSAT studying and now I'm not sure I'll be scoring in the 170s (my current goal) by June. I'm currently at about a 162 (my score dropped from a 165 after taking so much time off of studying) and I would gladly settle for a 170 in June if I got it. I haven't even started to PT. I'm starting to feel discouraged and think that maybe postponing my test *again* might be beneficial for me and let me come at it slower. It's already a hard pill to swallow, and obviously I would love to get it done and over with in June.

However, I'll be overseas this fall and was looking up foreign test centers for the country I will be in. I was looking up more information about the exam to get an idea of what taking it overseas might be like and LSAC stated that the exam is undisclosed. Does that mean it's a different exam? This is totally new info for me. If anyone has any information at all about this that would be super great. Thank you!

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Hey folks, is anyone here who is taking the LSAT with English as their second language interested in learning together? I've been hearing more inquiries about study strategies for people who encounter a significant language barrier with the test. Let's use this thread for ESL students to connect and see how much interest there is, in addition to sharing helpful strategies with each other.

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Hello everyone!

It's been a while since I've been on 7Sage because (thanks to this amazing website) I got into both of my top choices! I am super excited, but now it's time to decide where I should attend.

I have done my research, and I am well aware of the financial strain a legal education can place on a student. I have a detailed financial plan for both of the schools, which are The George Washington School of Law and OSU The Moritz College of Law. I am hoping maybe the 7Sage community can help me process the pros, and cons of my pending decision.

My goal is to practice law in D.C. (before everyone gets on the GW bandwagon I understand that you should attend school where you plan to practice law), but I was only given $13,000 in grant money. I received my M.A. in Public Policy, and I would love to draft legislation (but I might change my mind once I go to law school so I want options). GW's tuition is currently $56k, and my total cost of attendance for one academic year would amount to nearly $70k (including room, board, books, personal, etc…). I visited the school, and fell in love; but reality is literally slapping me in the face. The grant is renewable depending on my financial status, but otherwise the rest would be covered by student loans. There are no other cons except the price of the institution.

My second choice is OSU, and I feel like I need to explain myself on this one because there is a huge difference between Washington D.C. and Columbus, Ohio. I was flown out to OSU during undergrad to tour the law school. I was pleasantly surprised by the faculty, academics, and network at OSU. They are also competitively ranked (#30 according to U.S. News and World Reports). Their network is expansive, and I do not think attending this school would shatter my dreams of becoming an attorney in D.C.; but I know I would have access to higher paying jobs should I attend GW. Lastly, OSU gave me $14.5k in scholarship, and I could become a resident after living their for 12 months (lowering my tuition costs).

Overall, the cost of attending OSU my first year would amount to $49k (including my scholarship, and other expenses). The cost of attending OSU would most likely drop if I become a resident. The cost of attending GW for my first year is $70k, and tuition increases every year. My current undergraduate, and graduate debt is $20k so I am also taking this into consideration. If I attend OSU (with my current debt) I would graduate with approximately $110k - $120k in debt. If I attend GW (with my current debt) I would graduate with approximately $180k - $200k in debt.

I am not asking for anyone to make a decision for me. I am looking for insight, especially if you're going through this experience. I have put a seat deposit at both schools.

Thank you all for your help!!!

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One of the RC videos that I watched mentioned that when something (call it X) happens more & more frequently, it does not mean that X happens most of the time. But I read it from one of the PowerScore posts that "more often than not" means MOST. They sound quite similar to me, so I'm not sure how to make a distinction between them. If I change it to "X happens more & more frequently THAN NOT" would it equate to most?

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I have been analyzing all the June 2007 (public domain) questions one by one, and find that they all neatly fit into very neat symbolic argument patterns--except for Section II Question 24. I would appreciate any comments on this particular question, especially if someone can help me write up a symbolic logic representation of it.

Please don't post full questions on the discussion forums, even if this is a free PT! You can see the question and explanation here:

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-june-2007-section-2-question-24

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If you're serious about the LSAT*, then you'll take advantage of this amazing opportunity!!!

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    Hello,

    I received my first scholarship offer last night. I applied late in the cycle so I am just now hearing back from schools.

    How should one go about emailing adcomms? Should I just thank them and let them know that I will be waiting for other schools to also decide before accepting any offers>?

    Thats what I have heard from many people. But just wanted to see what my 7sagers have to say!

    Thanks

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    Hey All,

    Had a question that I was confused about. Statement is, "People who aren't handsome are happy". Isn't the logical indicator "not" here, meaning it is in group 4 (Negate Necessary). Translated into lawgic, shouldn't this be, "Happy -> /Handsome ; Handsome -> /Happy". However, in the lessons, I found it to be " /Handsome -> Happy ; /Happy -> Handsome".

    Any help would be appreciated. Thank you for reading this.

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    Without giving away any of the content in PT C2, does anyone know what year (roughly) this exam was given? Is C2 the "never-before-disclosed" PT that was included in the most recent LSAT Super Prep? Thanks everyone.

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    I'm currently working on the logic games bundle. While I've been getting -1 or -2 per game untimed I continue to test every answer choice even after getting an answer just to be sure it's correct. I'm wondering if this will hinder my speed while doing actual timed games. Should I just pick the correct answer and continue or actually double check. At this point I'm focusing on accuracy not speed. Any comments would help. Thank you :)

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    Hi guys,

    I have been PT-ing and I noticed that the harder logic games, whether it be a grouping game or a rule driven linear game, really eat up my time and throw off my pacing for the rest of section. How have you guys been able to improve accuracy and speed on the more difficult games? I have been foolproofing every game I do thus far and was wondering what else I could. The games that I do find difficult tend not to have a pattern, so drilling might prove difficult.

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    Hello!

    I'm doxxing myself a bit here, but I'm really into electronic music --- all kinds, but I love the kind of stuff you'd listen to during the summer --- and I've found that I need all the good vibes I can get during this brutal LSAT journey.

    So I really put some effort into a playlist of EDM songs that'll give you warm and fuzzy vibes. I called it "Freedom" because I'm going to listen to it on my drive home after finishing the LSAT haha, so feel free to enjoy!

    https://soundcloud.com/charlie-melman/sets/summer-2016

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    Recently I took some LR sections from PT 18-35 and notice I could predict the answer for some type of questions specially resolve the paradox question type based on my previous knowledge of the subject discussed in stimulus. Have you noticed any such trends? Do you think it is helpful or it is going to end up hurting my score as most of outside knowledge considered assumption on LSAT?

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    Hey folks—

    Seeing how almost all of the participants in the June BR Group have defected (wisely) to September, we are going to be merging the BR Groups and doing away with the month designations all together.

    Moving forward, there will be ONE BR GROUP TO RULE THEM ALL. A unified and delightful congregation of folks.

    The next 3 weeks will have guided BR calls with Jimmy, each Saturday at 8pm ET. I propose that those weeks cover PT's 69, 70, and 71. If there is participation and interest in having BR calls on these later tests, we will continue covering the 70's up until the June test.

    Meanwhile, the new unified BR Group will start holding regular session in a couple of weeks. Folks have already been discussing the schedule, and I encourage everyone who is taking the test, whether June, Sept, or thereafter, to join in on this group.

    Please voice your enthusiasm or concern in this poll and/or in the comments below.

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    Now that the LG bundles have been removed from all sites (I think), how are you all drilling and fool proofing LG? I'm thinking about photocopying the LG sections from PTs 1-35, drilling them randomly, and fool proofing accordingly.

    Should of just purchased the bundle when I had the chance :(!

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    I consistently PT high 160s-low 170s and am aiming to score 175+ on June LSAT. I've already been through all of the powerscore books. I feel very solid on LG (usually get -0 or -1) thanks to 7sage and lots of practice but I struggle with RC and LR. I want to perform as well on those sections as I do on LG. I'm considering purchasing the Manhattan LR and RC and/or LSAT Trainer. Recommendations/advice for someone trying to master LR and RC? Thanks!!!!

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