How long do you guys normally see between application acceptance by the school and acceptances/ rejections from schools? Also, do most schools respond via online source or mail nowadays?

Apologies for this since I know I have seen this thread before and can never find it.

I am having difficulty seeing why the correct answer in this question is D. The argument shows that two methods of investigation yielded different results. The conclusion then states that there is no need to look further for an explanation of the difference in the studies' results. Answer D states that the argument's reasoning is flawed because the argument fails to "recognize that two different methods of investigation can yield identical results". I don't see how this is a flaw of the argument. If they had recognized that two different methods of investigation can yield identical results what affect does that have on a study that didn't have identical results.

Any insights that you can provide would be appreciated.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-34-section-2-question-09/

I have the "use old problem sets" checked in my settings because I was in the middle of finishing up this section but I came back today and it's gone, and many new sets in other sections that I assume are part of the change have appeared. Is there anyway to look at the answers for this section? Also, if I've done every part of the preceding sections up until this change, do I have to go back and do the new sets that have appeared? Or do they mostly contain the same questions as the old sets?

I'm very happy to announce that my score was higher than my average and much better than anticipated. I acheived my highest actual score to date! Thank you so much to JY and all the 7Sage community! I have made the decision to retake the test as initally planned (I'm one of those people who generally has to take standardized tests twice) But this is really good news for me along this journey. To all of you who are getting emails back, you got this. You are enough. No matter what, I believe in you!

Prior to my intensive two week study, I was scoring on average -5 on LR & RC and -6 on LG.

After two weeks of intensive study (question banks, review of my weaknesses etc.), I am missing -3 to -5 on LG and on RC.

That is the good news.

BUT

Bad news. I started missing -7 and once -8 on LR. :(

My overall score has dropped as a result.

WHAT IS GOING ON???

Hi there! I was just curious to see why on some videos using faster playback speeds severely distorted JY's voice? It seems that instead of the video playing at a faster speed, something happens to the audio quality instead.

I've been biting my tongue on this one but it bothers me that I can't figure out why this is happening. I'm not switching between devices (iOS, Windows, etc. usually studying on my laptop)... and just have it open using IE. It comes up frequently enough where trying to playback at 1.4x means I can't really understand what he's saying because of this distortion. Other times, however, the effect seems to be less dramatic. For example, he sounds like mickey mouse when you 1.4x him in the flammable creosote weaken question video. He's still perfectly understandable here.

After looking at this question for quite a while, this question still does not click with me.

I am not too sure how answer choice C can effectively close the gap.

Thank you so much for your help!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-54-section-4-question-21/

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Ya girl went from a 137 to a 160. Proud is all I feel right now. Thank god feb was my best take yet and highest score to date. LSAT IS OFFICIALLY OVER.

Thank you Nicole, Jimmy, David, Corey, and anyone else I've talked to. Most importantly, god bless JY.

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Hey All,

I just registered for the June LSAT and the ONLY test center that is within a reasonable distance is the SUNY New Paltz test center. I had gone on to register a couple weeks ago when there were available spots, but realized I needed a picture to register. I recently took the picture and registered this morning, only to find out it had filled up. I requested to be on the waiting list, but I'm wondering how likely it will be for me to get a spot? As of now, my PrepTest morning routine does not include an hour and a half drive, so if that is what is likely going to happen, I guess I would prefer to know now then a week before the test. Considering it's not even March yet, I want to believe I have a good change of getting a spot, but I'm sure those who have already done this before know better than I do. Thoughts?

Thank you.

I got 10 points higher than my diagnostic, 3 points higher than my best ever practice test score, and 8 points higher than the last practice test I took. needless to say, i'm very happy with this service, JY and the team. thank you for a shot at my dream school.

GPA is a 3.26, Feb LSAT came in at 157, 4 points below my PT... was my first take.

UCI accepts until JUNE lsat but at that point, i need an extremely good score to be competitive to be accepted before school starts lol.

So, should I apply with my 3.26 and 157 now and possibly get rejected and cant apply again this cycle?

Or do I wait until June and try to raise my score atleast 10 points. At that point, idk if 167 would be competitive for apply after june...

so idk. appreciate any ideas. thanks!

Hi everyone!

I just got my score from the February LSAT (my first take) and am disappointed. I got a 163. The average of my last 5 preptests was 166.4 and my highest score was a 171. My BR scores were always between 170 and 175. I feel like I can do better if I take it again and am looking at taking the October test, but I've read mixed opinions about taking it twice.

Is it true that top tier law schools will simply look at an average of your LSAT scores if you take more than once, rather than looking at your highest score? In everyone's opinion, what score would I need to get on my second take in order to justify the second take?

Please let me know your thoughts----i need advice!!!

Hey All,

Got some admitted students days coming up this month. Any idea what the dress code is for those? From perusing the other law school forums, it seems like most people are fairly casual (but they're not really wearing shorts or sweatpants and a t-shirt). So, for a guy, would nice jeans and a collared shirt be decent enough? I'm assuming wearing a coat and tie is overdressing a bit for Admitted Students days, since I don't have any scholarship interviews on these (that would obviously change things). Thoughts? Anyone already been to some of these?

My problem with MSS seems to be that I usually can't anticipate an answer choice in advance. Only about one out of five or six times does my my "anticipated" answer choice actually appear. And half the time, it turns out to be a trap anyway.

Unlike Main Conclusion, where I can usually predict the answer, I end up going through every single answer choice and crossing out the wrong ones until one seems viable. Needless to say, it is time-consuming and not very helpful.

I was wondering if anyone had a step-by-step process to anticipate the correct answer.

Thanks in advance.

I always play "Neighbors" by J. Cole before I start a test, and I go in feeling like I'm going to kill it. Well I am... I am!

Anyone interested in doing daily RC practice in a group setting (skype/online)? I am looking to work together with someone who is good on RC so I can learn and hopefully improve on it. I am a first time test taker, aiming for June 2017 test date. I have been studying for a while and really struggling with RC (timing, remembering details and tackling questions is something I am struggling with). I am doing well on LR and would be willing to do some sessions for LR too.

Hi all,

I am quite puzzled by the answer to this question altogether. The answer to this is answer choice A (circular reasoning of the first sentence and the last part of the last sentence following "because"), but I am not quite sure why this is circular reasoning. When I saw this question and when I stumbled across answer choice A, I eliminated this by:

seeing the premises as the first sentence and the part of the last sentence that followed "because" which both state "in order to succeed in today's society, one must have a college degree," while seeing the conclusion as "the skeptics objection of counterexamples are only apparent success (the conclusion indicator of however pointed to this)." Thus, the premise and conclusion were different.

even if we were to see the first sentence and the last part of the last sentence to be the conclusion and premise, this wouldn't be circular as the first sentence is a general statement of succeeding in today's society, whereas the last sentence discussed the concepts of : 1. "true" success (a matter of degree in the success), and 2. why a college degree was important (because it showed that a person did not have enough "education").

Again, even if we were to see the first sentence and last part of the last sentence to be the conclusion and premise (and assume that they are stating the same thing), it is not circular reasoning if you provide additional premises. It took me a while to find the 7sage lecture on this but here it is https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-25-section-2-question-09/ (see from the 2:20 mark).

So the structure would be like this:

Conclusion: In order to succeed in today's society one must have a college degree

Major Premise: The skeptics version of success is only apparent

Premise: without a college degree a person does not have enough education to be truly successful

The addition of the major premise would, according to J.Y., sidestep this from circular reasoning.

Any take on these three understandings of this question? Any help would be great!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-17-section-3-question-20/

Hi all!

I had a question on answer choice E with this one. To me, the reasoning of flaw in answer choice E was the same as that of answer choice D of the same PT same section question 20.

Looking at the explanation of question 20 (Morton: In order to succeed (...)) in other forums on answer choice D, the explanations state that Morton actually DOES consider the counterexamples stated by the skeptics (which is why D is incorrect); the problem was that he just did it through a flawed way. The structure of this passage was:

So, in actuality, this argument DOES consider the skeptics counterexamples.

Now coming back to question 22, in my line of thinking, the author of the passage does the exact same thing as that of question 20.

So, in line with the thinking of question 20, I thought that the author DOES in fact consider that it can be the real reason; its just that he supports it though a flawed way. Yet answer choice E (Does not examine the possibility (...)) goes against the line of reasoning of answer choice D in question 20....

Thanks in advance!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-17-section-3-question-22/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-17-section-3-question-20/

I find myself frantically scribbling everything down like a doctor and never looking back at my notes during the questions. What should I actually take notes on to make this worthwhile? This is just hogging up time for me right now, but I found it to be very useful when doing sections untimed.

.

Alright, I've done this webinar several times before and now it's time to see if I can do it while remaining within a reasonable amount of time! It's a big topic with a lot of information, but I'm cautiously optimistic!

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We'll talk about how to determine where you are in your prep, and how to let your level of ability guide your efforts in order to get the most out of each PT and to progress efficiently and effectively towards your target score and beyond. Trying to study once you finish the curriculum can be really overwhelming. By the end of my prep, I had it down to a science. But I had to learn the hard way through trial and much error. But you don't! So I hope to see y'all there!

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Hey 7Sagers,

We're very happy to announce that we've come to an agreement with the LSAC to re-release PrepTests in a very limited format. Specifically, they will be viewable and printable as digital rights management (DRM) protected electronic documents.

You can find them on the syllabus page by scrolling down to the PrepTest and clicking it. The e-doc will be next to the silent videos. You can see what I mean here:

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/preptest-36/

We want to make it clear that these are not PDFs - they are DRM protected electronic documents (e-docs). Please do not refer to them as PDFs. We would feel really bad if a student enrolled in a 7Sage course thinking they would get PDFs when, in fact, they would not.

Currently, PT36 - PT80 are the only tests available as an e-doc. Assuming all goes smoothly with these, we expect to be able to release other PTs slowly over the course of 2017, so watch out for those!

I'm sure you have many questions. Please PM me with your questions. I will answer them as a followup post to this announcement. Please do not start new threads on this subject because we will delete them.

[Edit: All PTs are now available as e-docs!]

So, what I'm understanding about the practicing of the LR questions (MSS specifically) is that you just need to be a 100% sure about your answer choices. The Blind Review applies for the questions that you weren't certain of the answer in order for you to reach that 100% certainty as to why the answer choices are correct/incorrect. Furthermore, the question choices that yield subtle differences that makes you think "hmm... could be.." is definitely wrong because there's an answer choice that is definitely solid with the given premises... Right? I'm curious because I was doing the Preptest29-Section4-Question3 and realized that the answer I chose (D) was the aforementioned "hmmm.... could be..." so during my blind review, before consulting the explanation video, I re did the question and saw that (A) was the correct answer because it did not have the possibility of being countered when I plug it into the stimulus.