Is it possible to have 2 answer choice that both weaken the argument but to different degree?

Also, for the weakening question in general, if I have to make an additional assumption to believe one of the AC could possibly weaken, then it would generally be wrong, right? Perhaps subtle ones don't necessarily do this..

Am I in the right mindset for this? I would really appreciate if someone could confirm my thoughts on this.

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Or we only need to submit it when they require?

Thanks!!

This may seem like a stupid question :)

My first name is too long to fit in the space available on the LSAT answer sheet (thanks Mom and Dad). To make things more interesting, I do not have a middle name, and my legal first name has a space in it. Everything is correct on the LSAC registration page and my admissions ticket, but looking at the bubble sheet, I realize that my first name won't fit. For same of example, let's say my first name is "John Adams"

Would I bubble in J-O-H-N _ A-D-A and leave a space? Or should I bubble in J-O-H-N-A-D-A-M (and still have a character left off)?

So I know that on the LSAT correlation can never, ever, ever equal causation. I know that correlation being there can strengthen causation and a lack of correlation can weaken causation.

My question is this: does causation equal correlation (on the LSAT specifically?) In-depth explanations welcome, as are examples. Bonus points: LSAT questions off the top of your head that use that concept (rare, I would imagine)

Just some background for a minute, I have no job and one class at school I can devote as much time to the LSAT as I need to. I am not afraid of hard work. GPA is T1 level and the only instance that stands between myself and my dream school is the LSAT.

The problem I have been having is with the work in the syllabus. I try and shoot for 8 hours a day working on the 7sage course, but I've currently been feeling a little down by the time inconstancies between how long it takes me to do a problem set and how long it actually says it should be done in.

Each problem set (5 Q's) has a time of 30mins to complete. When I screenshot the questions and print ~5 minutes, take the 7 minutes for timed conditions, another BR of about ~20 minutes to really understand why the answers are right or wrong, and finally watching the video explanations ~30 mins; I realized each problem set is about an hour, give or take, and after putting in four hours I will take a break. When I return, I see that I've only had "two hours of progress" for the week. I can't seem to shake off this notion that I am not doing enough, or maybe I am doing it in a way that is not correct for studying. Nevertheless, I am learning so much from each and every problem set and lesson, but I have ran into the problem where I still have 24 hours of studying for this week to do and I am afraid I will just keep getting buried as I progress.

Any thoughts :/

Hey fellow 7sagers : )

I am seeing a lot of posts about people knowing they are not ready for the test but still taking it or realizing by answering their LSAT questions that they do not yet have a good grasp on fundamentals but are still taking the test. So if your average score of past 3-5 correctly timed stimulated practice test is not within plus or minus 5 of your ideal score. This post is for you.

A little background: I was once where you are, not ready for the test, but I was registered. I had already paid the $180 ( or whatever the exorbitant amount they charge us) and quite frankly refused to let my hard earned money go to waste. I mean, $180 is a lot of money! I was determined to at least get "something" out of that money I had already given to LSAC. I reasoned I could get some real time practice about how LSAT really was and somehow that would help me when I was finally able to take the test having studied to my full potential, at a later date of course. But then some "mentors" descended out of nowhere and helped me see where I was going wrong and I hope I can do the same for you and return that favor. So below I have listed five reasons you should not take LSAT this coming Saturday.

Why you should ditch LSAT this weekend :)

#1) Learning from other people who have taken the test before they were ready: It's more effective to learn from other people who have done something similar than to do the same thing and expect different results. When I have asked people who have taken this test before they were ready none of them have yet said to me "That was such an invaluable experience!". On the contrary I mostly hear regrets. I often hear "I wished someone had told me not to take the test. I just wasted my takes. Even though I am now ready, my real lsat score ended up being slightly below what I was scoring on my practice and I wish I had more takes left." You literally just have to ask around to see the regrets in people who took the test before they were ready to know that this idea of using a real take as a practice test is nothing compared to the value of having a few takes left and scoring your ideal score and getting into your dream college. Some people need to take it twice or thrice to just score within their practice range. So please err on the side of caution and give yourself that opportunity.

#2) Don't give your application a weakness it doesn't have yet: When you get down to submitting your applications, which one of us really wants to write about why one of our LSAT score was low?

#3) $180 is actually not a lot of money: Okay It's a lot of money if you think in terms of how most of us have to pinch money so we can work as few hours as possible and study for LSAT as much as we can. But If you take a look at the financial impact a good college can have on our lives, that $180 doesn't seem to be worth it to fuss over.The current lawyer I work for went to T20 law school and can make that much in less than half an hour, and this isn't even big law. So although that $180 seems a lot right now, the opportunities that can come from getting into a top college and having an amazing application which cannot happen without an LSAT score, is worth to lose that $180 now. Lets not throw good money after bad.

#4) That practice we all want to get this Saturday can be achieved in a library with JY's recorded voice as the proctor: is it exactly the same as real time? No. But if you adhere to it and don't cheat yourself, there is not much difference between a real proctored test and JY proctored test. Could bad things happen during the real thing? Yes. But you could prepare yourself for that too by taking it in places where its hard to take the test. The point being you can stimulate real test day, apart from unseen circumstances, pretty accurately. So don't use a real take for practice; use practice test for practice, and real test for when you are really ready.

#5) Maybe I can score a 170 on the real test?!!!!:(/i(/u)> I call this the "I am the Exception" feeling and I think this is actually a big one. Despite the evidence in front of us where our practice scores and our dream scores just do not match, somehow we get convinced we might get that 170 or who knows even that 180 if we just take this test. I think this happens because all us are actually very good students, who get mostly A's, or know we are smart because even when we didn't work hard we still managed to get that high grade. We have by now mastered the art of cramming the day before the test; surely if in college studying the night before could get me A+, I can study this week before the test and beat everybody just like I used to. While it might have worked in college, I am here to tell you sadly LSAT is different. Unlike cramming, LSAT requires us to develop good and efficient habits. It's not something we score on the test day, but something we have already scored in our practice test.

*So unless you actually attended Hogwarts and know some spells to ace this LSAT in a different way, I recommend using your practice test as a guide to know when you are ready. After all, is PT 80 going to be so different from PT 75-79 that your score will jump tremendously? Probably not. Maybe a little if you are lucky like some ( I have yet to hear a more than 5 point jump), but not by a lot.

#6) Confidence: ( I know I said five reasons but its actually six. Five just made for a better Title of the post ;) ) I know from taking enough PT's that confidence can play a big role into the score I am going to get. The more confident I am, the faster I will end up going through questions and finish everything on time. But the funny thing about confidence is that it has to come from ability. If you are not yet able to answer questions correctly and fast, you are either going to be over confident in which you will answer things incorrectly or you are going to be under confident and stressed, and you will also end up answering things incorrectly. Confidence in LSAT is great when it comes from acquired ability, it doesn't work the other way around and it can definitely hinder you if you are not confident because you know you are not ready.

I know this is not the news most of us want to hear, especially when we are registered to take the test in a few days. But I hope this gives you at least a few points to consider. The rest is up to you of course. Good luck in whatever direction you end up going. Much much love.

I would like to add an inspiring story for people who don't want to wait till the next application cycle to take the test:

I once met a Dentist who told me that he waited three years to get into UC San Francisco, which is the #1 Dental School in United States. During those three years he faced constant doubt from himself because of how hard it was for him to score high on that test and the pressure from his family who thought he was just wasting time. But he didn't budge. And now that he has graduated from the top Dental school and makes a lot of money, no one remembers that time. His family doesn't and he certainly doesn't. He is very happy he made that decision and gave himself the best opportunity he could to succeed and he has succeeded.

I wish only success and the best for all of you. Good luck <3

Can someone let me know which other games are similar to this one?

This is the first time that I have encountered this kind of set up.

Since the LSAT may not always be straight forward...

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Study Groups are available to help prepare for the unexpected and answer those "curve breaker" questions!!

The Weeknight Study Group will complement the Saturday Study Group sharing the same schedule providing more options to address everyone’s study needs. A new feature for the PT specific BR calls is for everyone to ask specific “priority” questions that they personally want to review with the study group which hopefully will allow anyone in different time zones to join at any point during the session and gain the benefit of review.

Studying part-time over the past year plus, the BR calls have been invaluable to me and offered many occasions to lead calls throughout past testing cycles. Vanessa @nessa.k13.0 has already started providing the Saturday group with workshops and we are collaborating with Josh @"Cant Get Right" on expanding the Study Group into so much more than a BR call with opportunities to enhance the entire PT/post curriculum prep experience - Sage led workshops and RC/LG intensives – details to follow based on each of the Study Groups needs and requests:)

Look forward to seeing you Wednesday and/or Saturday nights – you never know who might show up to lend their expertise??!!

I will be posting details for Wednesday night PT60 soon. Let me know if you want to continue to be tagged in future posts:)

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Hi Guys,

When would you recommend I completely stop studying for the LSAT if I am taking it this February. Do you recommend warming up on test day or the night before?

Thank you :)

I know Lawgic is incorporated in the CC in order to gain a full understanding of the the LSATs components. However, I find that trying to use conditional logic to try and solve LR problems actually confuses me and slows me down. I actually understand the problem better when I just read the LR stimulus very carefully, focusing on the indicator words and parsing out conclusions and premises. Is it ok to not worry about conditional logic for LR or am I going to need it when I get to later question types? Thanks!

With 5 days left, I want to wish everyone who is taking the upcoming LSAT the best of luck. I also wish anyone going to the class of 2020 the best of luck, too.

We salute you.

When doing SA questions that are logic based, I do well seeing as I know how to diagram the statements and link them up accordingly.

However, when SA questions are not logic based, I have a very difficult time getting the correct answer.

Cans someone please give me some advice on how to do SA questions that were not logic based?

Are the new games discussed at all in the course? It's my understanding that these games, by design, are difficult to directly prepare for. I've seen enough of them to understand why this is the case. The general approach I've heard is to master the approach to all games and bring that mindset to these new ones (and don't get flustered).

Hey guys, I was just wondering if anyone had any advice in regards to how to resume studying after taking a break? I finished the core curriculum in December, and decided early Jan that I wasn't going to be ready for the Feb. LSAT. I also decided to postpone my LSAT studies until April, when I finish my undergrad, so that I have the time to dedicate myself to full-time studies. I was just wondering if there were any tips for keeping my brain LSAT-engaged so it doesn't feel like I have to start all over again in April. Also, how people got back into the groove of studying full-time after taking a couple months off? Any help is appreciate, thanks :)

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A friend of mine and I were discussing PT 76 (a PT I had never done before), and I went rummaging through my LSAT material, when I found PT 76, its cover a sort of sea green. Now, my first reaction was that PT 76 does NOT "feel" like a sea green to me. My friend said the same and voiced his dissatisfaction with PT 77's vibrant red, a point I myself was about to make!

We both agreed PT 72 felt right with its purple cover and that PT 77 needed a more neutral color. Does anyone get this way when looking at these PTs? There's some psychology to this, I just know it!

I'm having trouble negating and translating the first sentence of this question. How am I supposed to negate a sentence with two group four indicators?

Thanks to this community I've improved my RC and logic game scores tremendously, yet for some reason my AR score has gone down. That was the section that I was strongest in. I'm supposed to sit for the Feb test Saturday but I think I'm going to parlay that into writing for the June one instead. I was still planning to take June anyway, but was going to take Feb since I was already registered. My husband said he thinks taking the test Saturday is still a good idea, for practice reasons, but I don't want to chance it. I was devestated after receiving my Dec score and I read here that the day of score could be lower than PTs when you account for day of jitters etc. it's just that I'm older than most of you tenderonis and cannot afford another year of waiting. sigh I have to remind myself it'll be worth the wait.

The instructions "strongly recommend" to send in my resume WITH my personal statement. I didn't, because I didn't remember to, because that is weird.

The online checker system says my application is "complete" but on the checklist, "resume" is unchecked.

Should I try and email them my resume? Or do you think that would annoy them?

I'm curious about the turnaround time for applications. I'm about to submit everything and I wanted a general idea about how long I should expect to wait to hear back. I realize it may vary by school, but for those of you who have already heard back, how long did that take? Thanks, guys!

When doing NA questions that are not logic based, it is a lot easier for me to get the correct answer, especially with negating the answer choices.

However, when NA questions are logic based, I have a very difficult time getting the correct answer.

Cans someone please give me some advice on how to do NA questions that are logic based?

Hello everyone,

I took the December LSAT after studying for 4 months. I did a bunch of practice questions and tests. But I was studying/reviewing the wrong way. I took the test in December, even though I did not feel ready. I am not satisfied with my score. I decided to retake the lsat in June and apply next cycle.

If someone has been through this, could you please tell me how you used the same materials and made the best out of it?

Thanks,

Dodo

In the third rule, it says that if y is not in the park if either L or O is in the park, but then on the explanation, the sub game boards, he says that Y can be in or can be out if either L or O are out..., what am I missing? I thought if either one of them was out, then y had to be out too.

Please help!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-b-section-2-game-2/