Recommender will obviously make the final decision to send it herself.

Is it considered "narcissistic" to edit and change an LOR?

The LOR sounds pretty good but any improvements are a plus.

The Question Bank is great!

Progressing through the PT phase, I was wondering if it is possible to have a Filter/Sort for the PT's that I have entered into Analytics to create problem sets to drill? Utilizing the problem sets within the curriculum was immensely helpful and I have created similar problem sets with PTs that I have taken. Curious if it could be easier to delineate which PTs to choose to create mini-drill sets and be able to maintain the integrity of fresh PTs?

Any advice appreciated to make it an easier process:)

(p.s. This post is in no way advocating for extensive drilling on a specific Question type - taking sections and being able to adapt as the questions are presented is paramount:)

Hey everyone! This website and forum are amazing and have been very encouraging. So here's my story: I have been very slow at studying for the LSAT. I completed university (BA and MA), worked in social services for two years and dropped everything to study LSAT. I gave myself from August - December to do the Dec LSAT, during which I read the Powerscore books once, studied awfully without Blind Review until I came across 7sage in early November and by that time, burnout began to kick in. I have now fully gotten into the 7sage way of studying but I became burned out before the December test and didn't prepare as thoroughly as I could have. My diagnostic was at a 147 (low, I know) and I have only recently gotten into the mid-high 150s. I applied to Ontario law schools for September 2017 and am thinking of taking the February LSAT. Logic Games is my worst section followed by Logical Reasoning, I'm surprisingly decent at Reading Comprehension and am typically -5 (still room for improvement though). Is it worth it to take the February LSAT and take it in June if I don't do well? I am hoping to get at least low 160s. Or should I just get a refund and take the June LSAT to give myself more time. I just feel very rushed right now and know I can improve drastically after learning how to BR properly and after doing the fool-proof method for the LG section. I know these problems are insignificant but I just need some advice lol

The argument breakdown is as follows:

P1: Surgical procedures differ in one important aspect from medicinal drugs.

P2: This one important aspect is that a correctly prescribed drug depends for its effectiveness only on the drug's composition, while the effectiveness of even the most appropriate surgical procedure is transparently related to the skills of the surgeon who uses it.

C: The proposal to extend clinical trials to new surgical procedures should not be implemented.

So we are looking for the flawed reasoning. I was able to eliminate B, C, and E, but my worry is that I also eliminated A (the correct answer) and chose D, not because I liked D, but by POE.

Would someone be willing to explain to me why A is the correct answer? The argument is saying that the extension should not happen, and it seems that A would only add a premise, rather than constitute a flaw. Is the flaw because the stimulus only mentions one important point at which they differ, and A is pointing out a second important point?

(Also, on a side note, has anyone ever come across a flawed reasoning question where the answer was "the argument is flawed because they didn't cite any scientific evidence"? I am usually quick to eliminate these because, logically speaking, an argument works with the evidence it is given and draws conclusions from that. Sometimes they are terrible conclusions, but regardless, one does not need scientific evidence to validate a terrible argument. If we are speaking scientifically, empirical evidence is clearly important. But, for our purposes, I just don't see how a lack of scientific evidence can ever be the logical flaw in an argument. I chose D for this answer, already suspecting it was wrong, but I did so by POE. Any thoughts on this?)

Thanks!

As part of my LSAT preparation, I am taking sporadic prep tests to gauge my strengths, weaknesses, and overall progress/improvement. If any of you do the same (take sporadic prep tests while studying), how frequently do you take them? Do you take them randomly or whenever you feel like it? Do you take them after a certain amount of time since your last prep test?

Cheers,

Aidan N.

Hi guys,

Brief history: I took the LSAT in September 2016 and scored a 164 (raw score 81/100) after an unorthodox study schedule (studied using the Princeton Review course from October to Dec. 2015; resumed studying in July 2016 until the September 2016 LSAT practicing off real PTs and using 7sage during late Aug-September primarily for the RC section). I got -8 on the RC section, -4 on the LG, and -4 and -3 off on the LR sections.

I've taken a break since September and now am looking to take the February 2017 LSAT, with an ideal objective of scoring 170+. Based on my studying history, do you guys have any particular suggestions as to how/what I should study? As in, should I try to re-learn concepts and start from the basics, or buy certain books? Any and all help will be very much appreciated! Thanks in advance.

Hey everyone!

As I am closing in on getting my application finished 100%, I am hung up on one of my apps' Character and Fitness section. So this is what I'm dealing with:

"Have you EVER IN YOUR ENTIRE LIFE been arrested, charged, convicted, warned, taken into custody, or accused, formally or informally, of the violation of a law for any offense, including, without limitation all traffic offenses {e.g. DUI/DWI offenses, speeding, improper equipment, expired registration or inspection tags, failure to maintain proof of insurance, failure to wear a seat belt, etc.}? You may NOT omit offenses that were dropped, dismissed or reduced. But you may omit (i) offenses that were either expunged or sealed and (ii) parking violations. Even if you perceive a matter to have been minor or to have happened a long time ago, you MUST disclose the information."

So I had a minor speeding ticket over three years ago for which I went to court and it was reduced to defective equipment and I paid a small fee for everything. I received my DMV driving record yesterday and this isn't even on there anymore (VA records). The section asks to disclose everything (in writing), including official copies of both original charge or citation (don't have that anymore) including any reduced charges or lesser included offenses.....

I am so confused. Should I go ahead and just mention the speeding ticket that was reduced to defective equipment sometimes early 2013, and also mention that this is no longer on my record and I therefore have no paperwork to show except for my certified driving record. Or somehow try to obtain that original charge (where do I even start????) and some kind of court documents from the day I went to court??

Thanks for helping me through this mess!!

So, unless I just totally crushed it in December and scored 5 points higher than my average score (not anticipating this outcome) I'm going to be retaking the LSAT. That said, I have long completed the CC and have taken about 25 PT. However, I am still failing miserably at LG. I usually can complete 2 and on my best days 3, but I've never completed all 4 games during a timed PT. I had one of my better days during the December test completing 2.5 games, but that's beside the point.

So, obviously I'm focusing on LG. Starting in a week, I'm going to use the fool-proof method on every LG from 1-39. My question is, should I still be taking one full PT every week and BR so that I don't regress on the other sections? Or, should I just focus on LG and start taking full PT again after completing the FPM on games 1-39?

Hope everyone had a great Christmas weekend!

Quick question to those of you who had a chance to submit a general letter of recommendation to LSAC. I'm about to send an instruction to my recommenders on how to submit their letters etc and was wondering who they will need to address in the letter head. For example, should the address of the person / committee receiving this general letter should be that of LSAC as opposed to specific school?

Also, do you have any thoughts on not putting the date when the letter was written by the recommender? Given that these letters can stay on my record for the next 5 years and since I may be applying again after this admission cycle, I was wondering maybe I should ask the recommenders to omit the date in their letters... Really appreciate any thoughts you guys have on these questions and hope everyone has a great rest of the week :)

I know this discussion comes from nowhere but I'm curious to understand how some of you think. While prepping for the LSAT, I've looked into various strategies and techniques on how to become a "better" reader. Becoming a "better" reader in the LSAT sense of could mean a lot of things and seems very subjective, but, to me, "better" is just synonymous with "increased understanding." Now, I forget where and when, but somewhere along my journey I remember coming across an article that suggested I should train myself to learn how to read without listening to my own voice. I think I was searching for ways to become a faster reader, I'm not sure, but the premise of the article was somewhere along the lines of "don't read the words aloud in your head because it slows down your reading."

Personally, I have no clue how to read without listening to own voice. The idea doesn't even make sense to me! I've always listened to my own voice when reading. With the LSAT, I literally have conversations with myself during the process of reading a stimulus or RC passage. It helps me digest whatever bullshit argument or scenario the LSAT is throwing at me.

My questions: when you are reading LSAT material, is there a "right" way to read? Is there a "better" way that I don't know about? What is the balance I should be trying to obtain between speed and proper understanding?

Does any of this even make sense to any of you?

When I began studying for the LSAT I purchased two official LSAT "packs" that included LSAT's from June 1996 (when I was born) until October 2002 because they were cheaper than buying the more recent ones individually. I know that some of the old tests featured more frequent questions types that are perhaps less common, but what else? When I watched video explanations for some of the games JY would begin to talk about the format of the game and say something along the lines of "well this was a game from 97" as if its been phased out.

Any help would be much appreciated :)

Looks like state bars are warming up to the internet:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/28/business/dealbook/when-finding-the-right-lawyer-seems-daunting-crowdsource-one.html?_r=0

So I've been prepping for the LSAT for quite some time now and the process has been very emotionally draining. I know I've spoken to many others who, like me, miss being able to do things without having to worry about LSAT in the back of their minds or even about how they're going to plan the next steps in their prep without messing it up, etc. Most days, I just feel sick and tired of this test. I'm drained. It's just feeling *done* with this exam and the ways its really started to effect the structure in my life.

I've seen a lot of others posting on this discussion board who by now have been working and simultaneously studying for several months (if not 1+ years) and I wonder: how do you do it? What motivates you to keep going? I've always been really good at doing well in school and having a great resume and performing well at work. I usually have a lot of endurance, but I can't help but sometimes feel like this test is really just something that keeps bringing me down.

I don't always feel like this, but there are some days where I can't even get myself to look at LSAT material. I can't get myself to feel happy about having to plan every element of my life around LSAT prep. I do it anyways, because I know that my score will pay off, but lately it's becoming an uphill battle. I do let myself occasionally have fun when I want/need to. But I think that because I had been studying for the LSAT incorrectly for so long, that finally redirecting myself and trying to get into the PT stage is really draining me emotionally.

I don't know that I'm looking for people to motivate me (thinking about how I sometimes do enjoy the LSAT, seeing improvements, and knowing that I want to be a lawyer more than anything else usually does that). But I need a different perspective: how do other people approach emotional-burn out? I'd like to learn from you!

Thanks for your thoughts.

I have used 7sage off and on for the last 4 years. I wanted to come back here after Sept test and post this but didn't get time until now.

I scored 171 in Sept and went -0 in both LR sections. This happened after multiple takes and persistent effort. My diagnostic was around 130. I missed out on a high 170s score mainly due to virus game.

Just wanted to say that I benefited much from being on 7sage and discussions with other preppers on its forum. It was a great experience and 7sage was an indispensable resource.

It may seem impossible sometimes, and it may take long to get to your desired score range but know that it can be done. So those of you who find it hard to improve, it's important to remember that it will come as long as you keep trying.

First of all, Yale is *completely* [completely] out of my reach but I have a nice cousin who wants me to try and is helping me pay the app fee...so here's to money going down the drain.

Would anyone be down to edit my Yale 250? I would love to edit yours in return. I know this won't affect my chances too much because my numbers are already borderline, but I still don't want to submit a bad essay.

Thanks!

By no means, is this complete but some feedback would be great. My goal is to explain the night and day differences in my transcript between the first and second halves of my college education.

"I would like to explain the discrepancy between the first and the second half of my collegiate career.

When I started out in college, It was my first time away from home. I allowed myself to get caught up in the "experience" of being in college, rather than focusing on my studies. I was truly overwhelmed, I began to lean on alcohol and I quickly developed a problem."

Let me know what you think

I have been offered some very generous scholarships thanks to 7sage helping me improve my score by 12 points.

I was offered about 90% to a tier three school. Comes out to me paying about 7000 a year. I was then offered about 75% from a top 50 school, which comes out to me paying about 14,000 a year.

The tier three is in my state, which I will be practicing law. The top 50 school is in a neighboring state.

I need some advice.

I do not think I am interesting in Big Law, but possibly medium law.

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The more I talk to people, the more I realize that the ABA is quite active in its investigations into bar applicants. How far are they willing to dig? Will they scrutinize every tidbit of information? Will they care about my padded resume? If so, it seems a bit much.

Dear 7 Sagers,

I need to get your opinion on something. Recently I've been looking into Pre Law programs for the summer that are free of tuition for college students and am thinking about applying. However, from what I'm hearing, they aren't that important to getting into a law school and I could just work over the summer in the lab I work at instead. (I'm studying Bio)

Are these programs worth applying to? Theres few of them to begin with as to be expected. I'm taking the LSAT this Feb for the first time and want to make sure I have time to continue studying in the event I need to retake it in September this year.

Let me know what you think and thank you!

Hi All,

I had stumbled across a question which it needs to negate an universal statement. Is there a JY lesson on this? If so, it will be great if anyone can share the link.

If not, I had love anyone to talk about how to negate a universal statement.

Hi guys,

So I'm a Biology major at Case Western who has been struggling in some of her more difficult courses. I'm in my third year and my cummulative stands at a 3.125. I know this is a bit low, but I've been studying pretty hard for all my courses, gotten the help I needed and done my best. I'm also studying pretty hard for the LSAT. I know that sometimes hardwork doesn't mean much to a Law school admissions counselor... But I have extra curriculars, a job in a lab, and am taking a Bachelors of Science in Bio along with a secondary major in Spanish at a difficult school.

Is it still possible to go to Law school?

I'm wondering if there is a different way to study that I should use because of my dyslexia? I was tested and diagnosed with dyslexia as a young child. I took extra tutoring and have learned to manage it fairly well. Most of my higher academic education I took online classes and would try to avoid timed tests. I can always get the answer, but I have to be able to process what I'm reading. I can't do that very well up against the clock. I don't necessarily want extra time on the test, but I am wondering if there is a way that I should study that will help me that is maybe different from what is normally done? Or maybe should I ask for extra time or whatever consideration that can be give on the test? I typically never have before, I've never wanted to make a big deal about it, and I've just found a way to work around my obstacles. However, with the LSAT that's hard to do. I don't want an unfair advantage, but this standardized test was not made for a brain like mine. I don't want to be judged based on a low LSAT score when I actually am very capable. Any tips or suggestions would be great.

The question above, and do law schools care if you have an absence? I had mine three years ago.

Also, how often do tests cycle out? My last test score was in February of 2013 and December of 2012 was my absence. Am I clear and have three retakes?