I took the Dec LSAT, now studying to retake for Feb.

To prep for Dec I purchased the premium package and took ~35 PT's with thorough BR (some PT's in the 40's and 50's and all 60-70's), scoring between 164-170.

I only have 1 fresh PT (PT 76) that is in the 60's and 70's, which I am saving for the week before the test. I have read that it is most important to PT with the more recent tests. Since I began studying for the Feb test, I have retaken about 4 PT's in the late 60's and early 70's and got excellent scores (obviously inflated).. but I am recalling a lot of the questions from taking them previously... so I don't think it is benefiting me as much as it should.

Should I start taking PT's I haven't done even though they are very early (PT 30 - 40?) Does anyone have specific recommendations for studying for a retake?

Who has been on a holiday binge with this show? I'd love to hear some thoughts from some future lawyer. How do you think things will play out from here? If you haven't seen it yet, stop what you're doing and hop on Netflix and you'll be hooked!

I've heard so many different views on this. What are your thoughts on law school prep? Given how much time and effort we put into studying for the LSAT, it feels odd to just sit around and not try and prepare for law school itself, since it's paving the road for the rest of our careers...Also, what's the latest on the 7sage law school prep course??

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-59-section-3-question-19/

Can anyone explain this question and how the correct answer logically follows?

I used the 7sage proctor app (android version) recently to do a PT and it's great!

I kept thinking "aw, I don't want to be doing this, it's not that important this early in my studying, I'll just abort and make this a casual practice", but the app is unrelenting. The announcer comes on and tells you to turn the page and get going and it motivated me to keep doing just one more section instead of giving up and soon they were all done!

Of course, I did this after having played around with the settings and voices on the app the previous day. I failed to notice I had set the elapsed time for the section to 28 minutes instead of 35! The app is very sneaky -- when you have it display an image of the analog watch face, the hands on the watch face even move faster so that it looks like you spend 35 minutes! I was relying on that watch face since the watch I ordered for the LSAT hasn't arrived yet. So it wasn't until the break that I noticed I had set the app to 28 minutes!

No wonder I had so much trouble completing the sections and even had to skip an entire logic game! And just a small brag: found out later that even with limiting myself to 28-minutes for 3 of the sections I still scored a 166 pre-BR. I'm shooting for 170s. LR sections are my forte: my pre-BR score was only -1 on both (including the one done in only 28 min). So my focus will be on LG (fun!) and RC (not so fun).

I got a 153 on my first attempt at the LSAT this December. I feel I can do a lot better than this if I continue to study. The problem is, I didn't register for the February LSAT on time and many schools close deadlines before June. I'm wondering if I should just wait a year after I graduate and work on my internship and studying so I can really dedicate time and get the score I want, or just be happy with my score and apply to schools with that. Any thoughts?

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This might be a stretch, but is there anyone in Edinburgh, Scotland looking for a study buddy?

Hi all, I'm curious to hear everyone's thoughts regarding addendums for GPA's that may not necessarily be terrible. Before this last semester I had a 3.93 GPA. Unfortunately this last semester, between taking on an additional course and studying for the LSAT, it dropped to 3.79. I considered my GPA to be a fairly strong point considering I scored a 158 LSAT but now I feel like everything took a hit last semester alongside working full time as a paralegal. I'm wondering if it's worth my time to write an addendum to explain my drop in GPA due to studying for LSAT and work, I feel like since I'm applying part-time, a hectic schedule is what law schools will expect.

Hey guys,

I am planning for the June test and just started the Ultimate course. I moved back home to dedicate full time to the LSAT and have almost no obligations for the next 5 months. Back when I studied in late 2015 for October/December, I took an expensive prep course where I crammed in 8-10 hours a day (bad idea) hoping to do well in 2 months. Now that I started 7sage and embraced the method of taking your time, I realize I have too much time!

Other than following a strict schedule, which gives me about a month of the fundamentals, what else should I utilize? I would love to do problem sets here and there from PT 1-35 but I know the questions are also used by JY in the beginning of the course. Obviously, 36-76 will be for PT and BR only.

I guess my feeling is that I won't be motivated enough to stick to 2 hours a day when I am used to much more. I already plan on reviewing lessons such as Grammar (concepts never taught in my last prep) but I would prefer to hit about 30-40 hours a week to maximize my potential.

What do you guys think? Thanks in advance!

I'm confused when, where and how the word "not" is used sometimes. For example, in this question answer choice E's conclusion is translated to if a university class is not conducted in a normal classroom, then it will be conducted in a laboratory. /UC ---> L

I thought "not" is group four and negates the necessary condition? Is it because the if already designates the sufficient condition and therefore the not stays on the sufficient as opposed to moving to the necessary side?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-63-section-1-question-21/

I did my first PT yesterday (37) under strict time conditions. I had previously done the June 2007 in timed 35 min sections, but had long breaks in between every section. When doing PT37 I found that in the race to finish I often forgot to circle questions if I wasn't sure.

As I BR and skim the questions I didn't circle, I often remember that I wasn't sure. Should I just consider them a circled question too?

Has anyone tried just checkmarking the questions they are sure about (100% or 90% or whatever level you're using) and BR-ing the unchecked questions? Feels more satisfying in a way to feel 'yeah, I got this' and check it than to say, 'erm, not sure, guess that's a circle, then'. Also, if there is time to revisit the question before time is up and you go back and get sure, you don't have to erase a circle.

I usually use a big arrow when I want to revisit a question if time permits, since I wouldn't have time to go to all circled questions and want to prioritize.

Hi, is anyone willing to pass some judgment on my personal statement and a character and fitness addendum.

Pretty personal stuff and I'm willing to have it read by whatever judgmental eyes will read it.

Definitely will exchange statements if anyone else is comfortable. PM me if interested.

Target times in games will vary based off of one's respective LSAT goal score. Are the games target times listed by 7sage guided towards someone seeking a particular score? Depending on if someone is seeking to hit a 165-170, 170-175, or 175+ score, how should one relate to the target times listed?

Feb peeps! Please take a look at this tentative schedule below and comment your thoughts/revisions. You should also add me on Skype. My username is dmlevine76 . Please include in your friend request message that you want to get into the February Group .

NOTE: I front-loaded the PT 70s for Fridays because I believe that people need to get eyes on 70s sooner rather than later. We’ll still have PT 76 and PT 77 available to PT in February. After we’ve finished the 70s, we could do the lower 40s on Fridays. Trust me when I say it is worth it to do these tests twice.

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Wed Oct 28, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 48

Fri Oct 30, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 70

Sat Oct 31, 2015 (Halloween) - 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 49

Wed Nov 4, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 50

Fri Nov 6, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 71

Sat Nov 7, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 51

Wed Nov 11, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 52

Fri Nov 13, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 72

Sat Nov 14, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 53

Wed Nov 18, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 54

Fri Nov 20, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 73

Sat Nov 21, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 55

Wed Nov 25, 2015 - 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 56

Thu Nov 26, 2015 - Thanksgiving Day

Fri Nov 27, 2015 -5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 74

Sat Nov 28, 2015 -5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT57

Wed Dec 2, 2015 -5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 58

Fri Dec 4, 2015- 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT75

Sat Dec 5, 2015 (LSAT Actual) 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 59

Wed Dec 9, 2015- 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 60

Fri Dec 11, 2015 -5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR TBA

Sat Dec 12, 2015 -5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 61

Wed Dec 16, 2015- 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 62

Fri Dec 18, 2015 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR TBA

Sat Dec 19, 2015 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 63

Wed Dec 23, 2015 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 64 5pm - 8pm

Thu Dec 24, 2015 Christmas Eve

Fri Dec 25, 2015 Christmas Day

Sat Dec 26, 2015 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR 65

Wed Dec 30, 2015 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 66

Thu Dec 31, 2015 New Year's Eve

Fri Jan 1, 2016 (New Year's Day) 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR???????

Sat Jan 2, 2016 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR 67

Wed Jan 6, 2016 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR 68

Fri Jan 8, 2016 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR TBA

Sun Jan 10, 2016 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR 69

Tues Jan 12, 2016 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR 70

Fri Jan 15, 2016 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT SP B

Sun Jan 17, 2016 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 71

Mon Jan 18, 2016 Martin Luther King Day

Wed Jan 20, 2016 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 72

Fri Jan 22, 2016 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT SP C

Sun Jan 24, 2016 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 73

Wed Jan 27, 2016 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 74

Fri Jan 29, 2016 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT SP 2C

Sun Jan 31, 2016 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 75

Wed Feb 3, 2016 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT 76

Fri Feb 5, 2016 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR TBA

Sun Feb 7, 2016 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PT77

Wed Feb 10, 2016 5pm - 8pm FEB Group BR PEP RALLY!!!!



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There are only two test centers that are currently available for June 2016 lsat in my area, whereas for February, I clearly remember seeing more than five. Since the deadline for changing test date is tomorrow, I guess I have no choice but to select between the two, but one test center is notorious for being bad and the other is 40 miles away. Does anyone know if LSAC offers more test centers as we get closer to the actual test date?

Anyone feel like some of the correct answers to NA questions on the recent exams aren't really necessary?

On PT 71,S1, Q22 I see how this would be a sufficient assumption but don't see at all how it's necessary. Performing the negation test wouldn't really destroy the argument since we are only talking about predatory pricing, not ANY pricing practice. And I remember having a similar problem on PT63 Q11 where I thought there's no way the correct answer is necessary.

On older tests the negation technique proved very effective but I feel like it's actually hindering me on NA questions from the more recent tests. Any advice on how i can adjust? This used to be my favorite question type, now it's not! Want these questions to be automatic.

Hello,

Has anyone ever taken the February LSAT? If so, did you find it more or less challenging than the other scheduled LSAT dates? Were the logic games any different than normal? I was told they have at least one weird or unusual game for February exams? is this true?

admin edit: here's the link to the lesson: http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-76-section-2-question-16/

Hi everyone,

I understand why (C) is correct for this question, yet I picked (E) during my timed PT and I'm still not 100% sure why it's wrong. From the stim, I understood that a group of respondents was split as follows: 40% wanted conservatives, 40% wanted liberals, and 20% wanted moderates. From that info, we don't know precisely what PERCENTAGE of conservatives/liberals/moderates these respondents each want in the legislature: only that they want them. Maybe one respondent that wanted liberals wanted a legislature with 60% liberals, while another wanted it with 100% liberals. Therefore, this evidence only supports a rough estimate.

The conclusion, however, states that each citizen wants a 40/40/20 split in the legislature, which are EXACT PERCENTAGES. Therefore, I thought that (E) applied (going from a rough estimate to an exact/quantified conclusion.)

Thoughts on this are much appreciated!! :)

Long story short I'm retaking in Feb. I've taken the 25 most recent PTs so I needed fresh material to go over in preparation for the retake. After noticing a subtle difficulty shift in the 70+ exams, I decided to combat the trickier LR/RC by drilling straight from the Cambridge difficult packets for RC AND LR. Granted they draw questions from PTs 1-38, but every question there has a 4 or 5 star difficult rating. I figure if I can train myself to combat those questions, and drill 25 of them at a time (for LR) as if they were a "normal" LR section I'll be much faster and more comfortable with the lengthier and more convoluted 70+ stimuli. I plan to drill all the difficult RC passages in the same fashion, using 4 difficult passages as if it were a normal RC section...Then with about 2.5 weeks until the Feb exam, I plan to retake/BR PTs 71-77. Has anyone tried this or something similar? What are your thoughts on this approach...Do you guys think it can work or do you think it's too much of a gamble because of the way the "new" LR stimuli is constructed and phrased? Thank you in advance for your input!

Hi 7sagers,

I need some advice. I've taken the LSAT twice (October, December) and have scored the same score twice (149.. I know, I'm so embarrassed). The first time I was completely unprepared for logic games, so I missed most of my questions in that section, and then the second time, despite feeling more confident on logic games, I suffered from horrible test anxiety the day of the test and actually FROZE for about 6 minutes after reading the first reading comprehension passage and then scrambled to answer the questions hoping it was the experimental section (which it wasn't). I'd been scoring in the high 150s but was mortified to get the exact same horrible score as in October. Anyway.. now, I'm not so sure what to do. I'm 24 and was hoping to start law school next year, but now I don't know if I should try to study for the February LSAT (I've registered for it but am considering withdrawing) or to wait and retake it in June. I'm not trying to get into any great schools, I was just shooting for around a high 150, so I don't know if it's realistic for me to improve if I get my anxiety in check or if I should just wait until June. I'm really scared that I'll mess up again in February and then have to wait 2 more years to retake. I'm feeling pretty overwhelmed, discouraged, and with low confidence, and I'm just having trouble deciding what to do. Any input or similar stories would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Hi there, I got a December score that was 3-4 points below my PT average. I know I can do better, and my score on record is marginal at best for schools I am targeting. Should I apply now or wait until I get a (hopefully 3+ point higher) February score? And if I apply before receiving my February score and am rejected, can I reapply after receiving a higher Feb score? Thanks much.

Hey all,

I work in a business development role (partnerships, strategic relationships, sales, dealing with government red tape). I love getting people on board, convincing, solving problems, promoting ideas. I like the fast pace. I’m not looking for a career change. However, I’ve been looking at more education/credentials and I’ve not really been clear what exactly is the best fit based on what I do.

Some people tell me a JD is just for people who will be lawyers. However, I see some (not many) JDs leading corporations and nonprofits in many fields. Were their credentials on the right trek or was this just some early career confusion?

I’m leaning against joint JD/MBA simply because of the extended time commitment/break.

Appreciate your thoughts. Thank you in advance

Febbers! We’re a month away! Come to Group BR tonight!

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