I don't know what to do. It's really discouraging when you've spent nine months actually studying for hours almost everyday throughout the weeks and it doesn't count for anything to improve my score substantially beyond my diagnostic. How would actually putting in the work every day NOT improve your score? Really embarrassing, and really disheartening. Don't know if I will bother trying again. It's ridiculous to think all that work would do nothing, and yet it did, so it really discourages me from putting even more work in. Just being real here. Definitely considering ending this whole endeavor, it just seems like the effort won't pay off.

so what do you guys think? when is it coming?

as ive been studying and reviewing questions ive been getting better at selecting answer choices and being confident in my choices (thinking "yup, i know this answer choice is right"), i come across a few questions (particularly in LR) that makes me do a double take. i can narrow it down to two answer choices and then the face the dilemma of i feel that a question is right on gut but i tend to go with the other choice because it seems to make more sense in my head. this tends to backfire on me and can cost me 2-3 points. can anyone give me some tips or advice for how to condition myself to lean on my instincts and commit to it. it was hard enough to gain confidence for my answer choices test as is

I was wondering when this exam will be available in the grader. I would love to be able to analyze trouble spots in my take without actually seeing the questions themselves before I plan to retake on my own.

I am done with the curriculum, though I am sure I will revisit it. However, I was planning on going through the LSAT trainer first before doing more PTs. My question is if anybody did that already, did you see your score improve after LSAT trainer?

I have:

G most F

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C some G

I am trying to conclude C some G, but I am a bit confused.

To me this: G most F ---> C concludes G most C, and not G some C.

Can G most C and G some C be used interchangeably in this instance?

So overall, I either suck terribly at the SA questions during the PT process where I spend too much time on mapping out the lawgic or when I go over it during my blind review, I even sometimes get them wrong again. I have pulled SA questions from the question bank and plan on practicing them but I am wondering if anyone has any advice on how they improved on SA questions. JY basically said these should be freebies for you, but they're not freebies for me at all.

One thing I noticed I haven't been doing is labeling the conclusion and premises which I will definitely start doing.

Any advice/help/thoughts would be really helpful.

My PT score I got today was really disheartening. It had a lot of SA questions (more than usual) and that killed me.

Thanks

For September exam, which was my third shot, I ended up getting 173.

This is still high score, but I am still wondering whether smudges for 2-3 questions in my answer sheet affected my score or not.

During the exam, I found I had marking mistakes and corrected for some questions. I erased as cleanly as possible but some gray marks were still noticeably visible.

The problem is that I took the exam in Asia, which is a nondisclosed exam, so I cannot check whether the machine correctly marked my answer or not.

What do you think guys? Should I apply for handscoring? I don't want to waste my money but since higher score with 2 or 3 points will give me much better chances of scholarships so honestly I am leaning toward handscoring... Is there anyone who was or is in similar circumstances?

Hey 7Sage friends, i took pre-test 68 and scored very differently on the two LR sections. i am a bit perplexed by the discrepancy. How does one get 85% aka 22/26 on the first section of LR on a preptest and then get 56% aka14/25 on the second section of LR on the same preptest? I did both of them timed during a full practice test and THEN redid both sections, timed as well, and got the same score on a different day. I redid them to make sure that the second sections failure wasn't an accident. The difficulty level of the second LR section is clearly much more difficult for me. I would say 85% on the first section is a great outcome but the second section killed my score overall. any tips or explanations for the difference in difficulty? So i need to go back to fundamentals? do preptests usually have one section of the LR that is SIGNIFICANTLY more difficult in comparison to the other? thanks in advance

I have received my LSAT score for my second take and it was around a 8 point drop from my high 160s PT average. I'm not sure how exactly I should study for my third take. For context, I didn't get any sleep the night before the exam, and as I said in an earlier post, my RC performance suffered drastically from the Eileen Gray passage onward. Even though I did surprisingly well on the virus game and the LG, I under-performed on LR as well. Since I have been studying for about 2 years, I have seen virtually every Preptest, including the February exams and C2.

Besides getting more sleep, reviewing (including BR) my mistakes on this particular PT as well as other ones and drilling problem spots, I was wondering what more could I specifically do to improve my performance and make sure I could at least hit my PT average or do better. For making gains in RC, I was considering reading Supreme Court cases in my free time. Although I do read the Economist and Scientific American, I was also considering the opinion section of the NY Times to analyze the pieces for potential flaws and assumptions.

I just wanted to say a BIG thank you to all of the amazing people who make 7sage a possibility. I scored 170 on the September test, which is a 20 pt increase from my diagnostic. This increase would probably not have been possible without this program - I have been with 7sage from the beginning of my prep and hardly used any other material along the way. After a year and two takes, I have (hopefully) scored high enough to get me into my dream school!!

THANK YOU!!!

I just got my September scores back, and I made a 165. My average PT was 168 (range of 167-169), and I really feel like I could bump my score up to at least a 167. I kind of panicked on test day and it really threw me off.

For reference, I have a 3.79 GPA, and I don't really have any super high goals as far as T14 or anything. I'm comfortable with my score for admissions to the schools I'm aiming for, but I'd like to increase it for financial aid awards. Is it foolish to think that 2-3 points will make a significant difference for scholarships?

I'm leaning heavily toward retaking in December, even if it's just to prove something to myself. However, I would really like to get my app in now rather than wait until January. Can I apply with my current score and supplement later just for financial aid? Or should I hold off on applying until January?

Hi all. My score came with 6~7 points lower than my usual range. (162)

Even, it was the same score I got from my 2nd take which was 3 years ago. :(

I don't know what to do or what went wrong and had a whole day feeling super gray.

I think I will try to overshoot for just one or two schools.

But would there be disadvantages for me to apply in later cycle? say, 2018? cause I think I will study for one more time, but I don't want to rush since that would be my 4th time. geez. So I am planning to get a job since I am about to graduate my grad school and then try to retake it next June.

Maybe I am overconfident but I believe I still have a hope for myself.

What would you do if you were in my shoes?

Thank you in advance. I seriously hope someday I will post on 7sage thanking all the 7sagers

for making me finally have my 170+ ! :D

I received my score, and I'm a bit disappointed. It's two points below my expected score, and three below my most recent PT average. This score is 4 points below the 25% of my reach, and 1 point to 3 points above the 25% of schools i know I'll be satisfied with.I know I wouldn't be able to see a significant increase if I take December, because I'm writing my thesis right now and that takes up most of my time. Here are my options:

1. Apply to internships/jobs and wait to retake in Sep 2017. Then apply Fall 2018. There are a couple of drawbacks for this option: I'm an international student, and finding a paid internship/job is not the easiest thing, especially because I hold a liberal arts degree in the social sciences. If I have to apply while being unemployed, it will be a bit financially difficult for both my parents and me. I am also currently working with an application counselor, and I don't know if she is willing to wait until next cycle to continue working with me (without asking me to pay for next year as well).

2. Apply this cycle, and make the decision of retaking/reapplying when I get my admission results. If I'm happy with my results, I will enroll 2017. If not, I can retake the LSAT and reapply.

What do you all think?

First, congratulations to everyone who did great. Very proud of you guys and also thank you 7sage for your courses. I have never been the best taker. I studied my butt of the last past 4 months. It was my first time taking the test, I scored a 136 :(. I am extremely bummed. Law school has been my dream. I am sorry I am venting, I am on this journey by myself. Can you guys please give me advice of how to approach restudying? I spent countless hours and working two jobs did not help. I am going to retake it in December and clear my schedule. Do you guys think it is realistic to do well by then?

I left this question in another discussion, but figured it would be more appropraite to create a new thread, as I am sure many are asking themselves this same question. Here's my case:

So I was PTing between a 159 and a 162 toward the end of my prep. I got a 158 and was really hoping for a 160 or above. I feel like a 2-3 point increase could make a reasonable difference in scholarship money, which is why I would be willing to take it again. This test was a little bit off considering the virus game (which I surprisingly didn't do so poorley on) and the RC (wich I did way below my average). What do you guys think? Should I retake in Dec.??

FYI: this would be my third time. I canceled my first score.

Hi everyone! I have been studying for the LSAT on and off for 3+ years due to test anxiety/working full time.

In 2013, I sat for the test and cancelled my score. When September 2016 rolled around, I was ill the day of the test and couldn't make it, so I will have an "absence" on my record. I am scoring in the range I want to be in and hope to test in December, or February - though I don't want to miss another application cycle.

Long story short, I am very afraid schools will penalize me for my cancellation/absence and see this as a sign of flakiness.

Has anyone been in a similar position? Thank you!

Got my 174. Could not have done it without the resource of 7sage. The LSAT analytics helps a ton! Thank you so much 7sage for willing to share so many great resource for free! Wish everyone hit their target score <3

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I know that the standard line will be "well you only scored -4 off of your test and usually it's +3/-3 so that's not that bad" but it's worth keeping in mind that I had a very low diagnostic and my last few tests were all fairly high. I'm very troubled by my score because I don't think it accurately reflects the results I was seeing in my PTs -- for example my latest scores:

167

163

168

163

165

166

I must get a 165 or higher on the December test and need a 6 week plan of attack for review. Can you guys help me out?

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If you feel comfortable answering, what was your diagnostic and what did you score? My diagnostic was 145 and my September 2016 LSAT score was 160 which was the same as my last 5 preptest averages. Shooting for a hopeful170 in June

Do I get my answer sheet and stuff? Or just the exam?

Do you guys know where I can find JY's videotape doing an actual long LSAT test? I think it would be good to know how he manages time. Thanks a lot!

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