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Hey all --

I'm planning on taking the Feb test (though I'm not against pushing it to June). I've finished the Ultimate curriculum thoroughly, gone through the Trainer and am currently working on fool proofing games 1-35 using Pacifico's amazing LG games "4 times" strategy. I'm also drilling LR and RC sections here and there to keep those skills fresh as I work on perfecting my LG. I plan to finish the 1-35 games by the end of October and then start a PT schedule.

Is there an ideal PT schedule any of you would be willing to share with me, particularly one that includes 36-75 and mixes them up in a nice order; if you guys recommend progression from 36 to 75, I'm fine with that as well - I just need some wonderful mentor advice here. Also, I'd like to throw in that I'm a little nervous whether or not 12 weeks is enough to PT and BR all those tests -- please feel free to share experiences on this as well. I'm really okay with pushing to June, if it's recommended. Thanks in advance!!

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Friday means LSAT? Don’t let Friday be the Red-headed step child. Please comment if you plan on attending!

Friday, October 16th at 8PM ET: PT73

Note:

  • For the newbies: Add me on Skype, search handle dmlevine76.
  • For the regulars: If for some reason you're not in the group conversation[s] already, just message me on Skype.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it."
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Hey in the trainer schedule it has you take PTs. Should I take these PTs before I start 7sage? I'm not starting 7sage until the summer but I am using the trainer to familiarize myself with the LSAT

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    This is another one that just baffles me. I don't understand how D is a necessary assumption. I also don't really understand how C is not correct. Here was my breakdown:

    Country X should institute a nationwide system of air/ground transportation for getting seriously hurt people to trauma centers (this is the MP). Why should they do this? Quick access to the medical care that only these specialized centers can provide can save lives (this seems like a pretty good reason). The earnings of these people would increase country X's GNP. Also, the taxes on these earnings would increase government revenues.

    What I am looking for: The argument is assuming that the reasons why country X should put in the system are good reasons. Additionally, the argument is assuming that the new air/ground system wouldn't cost the government more than the increase in tax revenue from the earnings of the saved people.

    Answer A: Why do we need to assume that per-capita income is the same? Sure, this would strengthen the argument (I think), but it isn't necessary.

    Answer B: This also isn't necessary. In fact, I think the argument weakly implies that specialized trauma centers already exist in country X. If they didn't, where would the air/ground systems link to?

    Answer C: After typing this out, I think I get why this one is wrong. This answer choice doesn't paraphrase one of the things I was looking for very well at all. We don't need to assume that the trauma centers are more costly, but that the air/ground system is. Also, this answer choice isn't even talking about costs to the government, so you would have to assume that is, which we can't do.

    Answer D: This is the correct answer, but whaaa? I looked up the GNP formula (it's been a while since Econ101), but it is consumption+Gov Exp+Investments+Exports+Foreign Production by domestic companies-Domestic Production by foreign companies. Why must there be a net increase in employment? Even if this answer choice wasn't referencing the GNP formula (which I don't really think this answer was since the passage would have probably defined GNP if it were relevant), I still don't see how net employment MUST increase. What if the surviving people just kept their same job/didn't get fired/didn't leave because of the injury? Couldn't net employment stay the same? For this answer to even possibly work, don't you have to make the dubious assumption that the earnings of the surviving people increase net employment? Huh?

    Answer E: Automobile accidents? Way to specific for a NA

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    PT 52 is the first PT with comparative passages (I think), and although I didn't think the one in 52 was that bad, I still somewhat struggled keeping the two passages straight in my mind. What are your strategies for attacking comparative passages? Do you read them exactly the same way as "normal" RC passages?

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    I don't understand how A is better than D. Isn't the conclusion in the passage stating that the belief is incorrect? Doesn't D mirror this? A's conclusion isn't parallel since it states that the actual thing (unicorns) don't exist. Shouldn't it say that the belief in unicorns is false?

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    I'm having trouble with RC. It used to be my strongest area, but I think I'm psyching myself out. During the Oct 3 there was one passage that I just couldn't understand, and kept starting over. It caused me to panic bc I knew time was ticking.

    I am a working teacher, so I took my LSAT materials to a colleague who teaches English and, among other things, she insisted I really should read the questions before reading the passage, to increase understanding and to know what I'm looking for.

    I told her that this is a discouraged strategy for the LSAT. I know I read that somewhere, but can't remember where. What do ya'll think? Read questions before passage, or no?

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    So I didn't know this until today (thanks for sending the YT link JY!), but YouTube lets you Rewind Pause Forward with the JKL buttons on your keyboard:

    I instantly loved it. So easy to learn and makes controlling videos so much more instinctual. I had to have this in our video player, so I added it :) You may need to do a force refresh if the new shortcuts aren't showing up for you.

    So now we have (new in bold):

    K or Space = Play / Pause

    J = Rewind 10 seconds

    L = Forward 10 seconds

    , or < = Speed down

    . or > = Speed down

    F = Full Screen

    M = Mute

    ↓ = Volume Down

    ↑ = Volume Up

    This cheatsheet is available in the player by hovering the icon on the left side of the player, above the playback speed options.

    With the exception of the last two (volume up and volume down), these shortcuts are the same as YouTube, so you can use your 7Sage wizardry to master YouTube too.

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    I can't grasp why B weakens this argument and C doesn't. The only scenario I can think of is if a symptom of a disease is required for that disease, but can't a disease have multiple symptoms that aren't always present? Just because not all victims of ebola aren't afflicted with hiccups doesn't mean that many aren't. And also the questions stem itself says hiccups were experienced by "many", not all... If all victims of ebola were afflicted, then yeah that would definitely weaken it, but I don't see how it does not.

    As for C, I don't see how that could weaken it less than B, since there are plenty of ways someone could have been infected outside of athens and brought the disease back to the city....

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    Thanks to @Pacifico and @nicole.hopkins for letting me know that sometimes people get added to group message threads in the private message / inbox feature of the discussion forums, can't leave, and are destined to receive every message posted to that group in the future!

    Sorry if that's been causing you problems! We put in some changes so that you can edit opt out and remove yourself from group messaging threads. Just go to the message thread you want to leave and tap on the big blue button on the left labeled "Remove from thread". I hope this helps!

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    Hi, I recently upgraded to the Ultimate bundle and bought all the recommended PTs at Cambridge. All of this cost me a little over $1000. I've been working through the core curriculum and am now in the process of doing the problem sets. Is it worth it to shell out another $300 for PTs 35 and below?

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    I was going to apply for this cycle, but I realized that I want to finish up my master's degree and have more time to perfect my LSAT. So I am applying next year and I have another whole year to study for the LSAT!

    I took this year's Oct exam and I cancelled. I know what you guys are thinking.

    But, no, I didn't cancel because I felt weary after the test. I was having a mental breakdown during the exam period and I think I literally guessed 15 questions on one of the sections because I couldn't focus. Bad idea to have taken the test.

    So I have been studying since late May and right now I am scoring in the low 160s with an average BR score of 171-175.

    I eventually want to score 170+.

    Currently, I have exhausted most of my PTs and have 10 fresh ones left.

    I want to be taking my LSAT when I feel ready. (Dec? probably not. Maybe Feb or June)

    What do you guys suggest that I do in terms of study plan?

    Retake the PTs? Drill more questions from pre PT 39? or Review the curriculum?

    Thanks and sorry for the long post!!!

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    So I'm am struggling to make improvements in reading comprehension section big time. I was hoping to find a strategy for highlighting/pinpointing certain texts in the passage that are generally (in all likelihood) ascertained in the questions that follow, but I'm not having any luck finding it. The videos tend to highlight the passages as an exhaustive study, which is great, but what I'm looking for is an efficient method to practice with on the PTs. Is there a strategy anyone can recommend?

    Also, does anyone know of a list of question types/categories for RC stems, e.g, main point, author's intention, passage structure, etc? The categories used for the LR questions are great, but so far I haven't come across anything that breaks down RC questions.

    Thanks guys!

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    Hello,

    I do not know of anyone else taking the lsat so i am just posting my concerns here ;)

    I took my 1st lsat on Feb of last year got a 141. (hardly studied, and was full time study and work)...i retook the next lsat in June and got a 149 with almost 2 months of studying. English is not my 1st language and its very hard for me to sometime understand the sayings or tone in the lsat. Since my immigration status does not allow me to have private or federal loans in this country I need at least more than 160 to get some money for law school. I live in South Florida with T4/5 law schools that will freely give money. The tier of school is not an issue for me.

    Im planning to take the lsat in june of 2016. I have been trying to get back to it since august. I am working on LR since its my hardest section but cannot get out of 15-17 right in timed sections . I need at least 20 or more right. I have gone trough the whole curriculum and seems that I am getting most MBT/SA/NA mid to hard questions right but then the easy or mid main conclusion or weakening questions I sometimes get wrong..with stupid mistakes. When I do the blind review I usually get the right answer but I keep making the same mistakes. I go over everything and the lessons but still same mistakes. I do not know if its my concentration or i need more timed practice. Can you guys advice on what techniques to use for these 8 months leading to the test and to get out of the 15-17 range? Thank you ;)

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    Hey guys I just started started studying for the LSAT and I've watched some 7Sage videos for LR and I've noticed that J.Y usually reads the question before the stimulus and I was just wondering whether or not if that was recommended for test takers or if that is just a technique he uses for the videos. Thank you.

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    I have the hardest time with these questions. It's like I can't find the relevant paragraph because the statement/statements is so subtle under time constraints that they are easy to miss. By nature I tend to overthink everything which doesn't help. Does anyone have any advice on these questions?

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    I was expecting to be in the 165 plateau for a while but now it's been too long - I've been here since August! I know I must be doing something wrong. Recently I've been drilling LG and I BR my tests, but what's the most effective strategy to take in this last month and half I have left? I usually score -4 to -5 on RC, and my LR goes from -1 to -9 ..... I don't know why it fluctuates so much, and there isn't any consistency in what I get wrong

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    So, my BR scores have progressively gone down, from 170, to 167, to 164. I have been scoring 161, 162, 162 on those three PT's (159-162), respectively. I missed 7, SEVEN, LR BR questions because I changed my original answer, which was correct, to another answer. I think I am overthinking... I am clean copy BRing but I remember my original answer and I don't have confidence in it, because I circled it, so I change it. Has anyone else had this problem? Maybe it's just a mental thing, but it's frustrating to not have your BR score go up after you spend 2 days (4 hours each day) BRing. (I redo the LG section completely and then redo each game 4 times after watching JY's videos, as it's one of my weaknesses).

    Any thoughts?

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    Hi folks, can you post here/message me if you are planning to join Fri and/or Sat? (73 and 63?) Last week I was the only one and I just wanted to make sure that I definitely want to take these PT's this week (e.g. instead of reviewing and taking them later).

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    I started studying last Oct with the trainer, and took the LSAT in Feb. I got a 153. I took a break and started studying in June and went through all the 7sage stuff and took the Oct test. I'm going to take the Dec LSAT regardless of my Oct score. I study 3 hours each morning. For LR I usually go through the LR questions on 7sage and then watch the explanation. I usually get through a section each morning. For RC I'm going through the Manhattan prep book. I'm good on games. I also do a PT on the weekend. I've been studying long enough and I'm familiar with most of the techniques involved with the LSAT. What should I do from here? What do people do after they go through all the basics? Should I go back over the basics? Should I just PT like crazy? My biggest weakness is timing. How can I improve that? I've tried so many things and nothing seems to improve my timing or get me scoring in the 160. This is my last time to take, and I need to figure out what's going to work for me. I'd appreciate any advice!

    Thank you.

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