For those of you guys who have the time to BR an entire exam before the BR group, do you find it helpful? or not so much [e.g. better time being spent on practicing games or drills, etc]? I would imagine that if you had the time to BR on a clean copy before, view answers, and BR with a clean copy during the discussion it'd be helpful (but maybe not as much with a scratched up copy) any thoughts?

LSAT Prep Test 32

October, 2000

Section 3, Questions 19-24

Game 4

2nd Rule States That G Is In Slot 1, So G Cannot Be In Slot 7. Contrposite Is G In Slot 7, Then G Is Not In Slot 1.

Question: Why Is Not A Board With G In Slot 7, But Not In 1?

As I am working through the games, I find myself going over the ideal time and I miss a few of the answers. However, when I redo the games, my speed increases and I get more answers correct, sometimes perfect score.

When I take the LSAT, all of the games will be new to me, so I am worried that my speed and accuracy may be hindered. I am worried!

Should I be worried about this, or is this a normal process when introduced to unfamiliar games during this program?

The common understanding among law school applicants is that if you want a reasonable shot at practicing "big law" you HAVE to get T14. My questions is, why 14? I understand that you have to draw a line at some point, but I'm just wondering why its 14. Would the difference (chances getting into big law firms) between Cornell (#13) and Georgetown (#14), if there is any, be significantly different from the difference between Georgetown and UT (#15)?

I understand that it seems silly, but many people I've talked to really seem to be putting a lot of emphasis on the idea of T14. So really, two questions, to whoever either has an answer or any opinion. I am currently in the running for most of T14. I am about 90% sure I would like to work in big law, and perhaps even internationally, so geography and regional strengths are really non-factors. Would it be unreasonable to choose UCLA #16 over say the #12, 13, or 14 schools if I just like UCLA better? Also, if 14 does happen to be the magic number, how do we account for the fact that these rankings DO change, and that what's 14 today may be 16 or 17 in 3 years?

I have read, and re-read, Mike Kim's explanation on how to approach "Match the Flaw/ Parallel Flaw" questions, and I continue to not identify this correctly...

Any suggestions on how to approach these? I understand it is important to have a strong grasp of the flaw when you enter the questions, but I am consistently wrong in matching conclusions and supports...

Any tricks or obvious tactics would be so helpful!

I am scoring consistently in the LR and LG sections of my PT's, usually -3 total for LR and -0 for LG save some dumb mistakes on occasion that have diminished now that my timing is doing amazing after drilling nearly all LG for 1-38.

BUT- my reading comp just isn't improving nor is it consistent. Sometimes I do pretty well, like -2,-3 and other times I ruin my entire score with like an -8. I am just looking for any guidance that any of you used that led to improvement. Timing and accuracy are both issues for me, I can't seem to get a good internal clock for RC and regularly run out of time.

I know that practice, practice, practice is key but any specific strategies are welcome. I just ordered the Trainer solely for the reading comp lessons because Im that desperate.

Like I said, any tips or strategies that helped you are welcome.

So I took the LSAT this past weekend and there were several procedural errors.

!) 2 students were admitted after the test books and answer sheets had been gicen out and after we had already bubbled in our names and wrote the statement. Nothing was reread to those who came in late.

2) The proctors forgot to tell us when 5 minutes were left for the first 2 sections

3) Because we weren't given the 5 minute warning for sections 1 and 2, one student requested if he could transfer answers from his test book to his answer sheet during the break(apparently he likes to answer all the questions in the book and then go back and fill in the answer sheet, but was unable to do so because he wasn't given the warning) SO DURING THE BREAK THE PROCTOR GAVE HIM HIS TEST BOOK AND ANSWER SHEET AND LET HIM WORK ON IT FOR ALMOST 10 MINUTES

4)Several people brought phones which were confiscated. However the phones were not turned off and several times they went off with emergency alerts( Took the test in Carolinas where it is flooding)

Hey all,

I thought I'd make a thread about possible curves for the exam. Yes, I know, it is purely speculation. Many people thought the exam was comparatively very difficult. In fact, Spivey posted an article about the difficulty, which can be found here (http://spiveyconsulting.com/blog/help-i-failed-the-lsat-october-edition/)

What is the consensus on 7sage? Did you guys find the exam to be of moderate difficulty, or more or less? I think this exam was slightly more difficult than 72.

I'm about to enroll in 7Sage and I've been going through the free-trial as of now, however I’m a bit confused on the phase 2 part of the Memory Method - do you do it again with the same passage immediately after you finished going through all the questions for that passage using the phase 1 technique?

Or is it like so:

Passage 1: Phase 1 technique

Passage 2: Phase 2 technique

Passage 3: Phase 1 technique

Passage 4: Phase 2 technique

Then come back and re-do all of them using only the Phase 2 technique?

Because if we do a passage once then go right back to it with the second phase method, wouldn’t we memorize a lot of the details/answers unless there’s a certain amount of time you recommend to wait before doing the second phase?

Thanks.

This is very subjective given that everyone is different. For me, when I see that the stimulus is long, I tend to skip and attempt to come back because I am not a very fast reader.

My question is, does this seem like a fairly good approach, or are there some signals that I am overlooking to determine if a question is more so on the difficult side?

Hey fellow 7sagers, and a special hi to those in Korea.

I've taken the LSAT in June and got a 169, and am looking for a study partner or two who'll help me stay motivated (as will I to you(s)) for the upcoming December LSAT.

I believe that we could be most helpful to each other if you have at least scored a 168~169 on the real test and/or have been PTing in the 170s. (For those of you who'd like to know more about me: I have graduated from college in the U.S. and was born in 1990)

I'll be studying in Gangnam (Apgujeongdong) or Bundang. I work at a prep academy so I can provide space for mock tests.

hit me up if you're interested!

Without going into detail, whats the consensus on game 3? Difficult? Easy? Or just time sink?

Lots of people on the TLS forums giving conflicting accounts on it.

How did you do it? I took my 4th timed PT today (pt51). So far LR is my favorite yet most frustrating section. I try to finish the first 15 in 15min, but I get bogged down doing the first 1-12. I didn't finish on time and ended up not answering about 3 questions.

I somewhat have the accuracy because although I barely manage to finish LR, I tend to get -3 or -4 wrong per section.

If you were in my position at one point in time, what did you do to get to a point where you are finishing early without suffering accuracy?

Anyone here take the test in Asia? Based on what I've read everyone in Asia had the same test and it appears we were given the identical test given Dec 2012 in Asia. The RC and one of the LG games is definitely the same as Dec 2012. Everyone has 2 LGs and trying to sort which is the experimental.

In understand that the word “for” introduces a premise with the conclusion following the premise or preceding this word. Does this this concept apply when “for example” is in the stimulus?

Please explain. Thank you.

Whenever I take LR and RC from preptests (esp,LR), sometimes I can't be sure whether I pick the right answer.

When I choose an answer, I think like "Hmm..It looks like it's an answer." or "It might be right." and I choose and then move on to the next question even if I'm not sure about the answer. So half of the answers I choose are usually right and the other half are wrong.

So being unsure about choosing answers always makes me feel really worried and annoyed. Especially, PT50s and recent ones make me feel vulnerable and worried. I want to be sure and certain (e.g Yes, this is an answer!) when I pick answers.

How can I overcome about this problem?

Please someone give me advice.

Thanks!

For the retakers out there.... I think I made a costly error on game 3 (I see I'm not alone there) but anyway I have a feeling I won't be achieving my target score. For those of you in a similar boat, when are you going to kick it back into gear? I had been going pretty hard and was getting pretty tired towards the end and was planning on taking a week off from studying before getting back at it next Monday. Is that too much time off? What're your guys plans of attack going forward?

I have searched around discussion boards online and it does not seem that anyone or any group of people have identified the experimental LR from the test yesterday. In June, I remember it being easy to discuss and identify the experimental LR just like RC and LG usually is. I had LR(26) LR(26) RC LR(25) LG, the 25 question one was real and luckily it was cake, but for the life of me I cannot figure out which 26 question section was experimental, nor can I remember specific questions from them. Also have seen people note about there being 2 questions for a stimulus which I did not have so that must be experimental as well, which means the test had 2 possible experimental LR's... which seems bizarre. Also, talking to other people that had taken the test at my center they had LR LG RC LR LG or LR RC RC LR LG. Does this mean that my 2nd section is for sure the experimental or is there a chance my 2nd section was their 1st section?? Any feedback would be appreciated, would love to have a confirmation on this as the 1st LR(26) was insanely hard (especially compared to the 2nd LR(26)) and that being the real one could definitely be a detriment to my score. ): Hope everyone's test went well, thanks to this 7sage community for getting me as prepared as I could have been for Saturday!

If one has learned all of the valid argument forms, does it make sense to learn the invalid forms? Of course, I could be incorrect, but it seems to be redundant to learn both. Please assist. Thank you.

I just got both books but I believe I won't have much time to go through both by the December LSAT. Which one would you recommend I keep?

Hey guess, know BR timing is really a subjective thing here, I can reasonably spend 45 minutes on a question until I've really understood the question. Alternatively, I can figure out a question the second I finish rereading something that I missed the first leg around. So I'm curious, how long do you take on average to BR a PT?

I only have 2 months until the test date. So I was wondering which course would be most beneficial to take? Would I have enough time to go through the LSAT Ultimate (the most recommended) in time.

My initial answer choice was the correct answer (B). But I ended up going with A because the language seemed too extreme. Should we expect/allow the language to be extreme in principle questions? HELP!

Hey everyone,

In signing up for the Ultimate 7Sage Course, I read that all of the explanations for the Prep Tests on 7Sage require the student to purchase the official LSAT prep tests themselves. While I was searching for the prep tests, I was unable to locate tests 39-51 which are all covered by the course. Does anyone have any advice on how they overcame this issue? I would love to make the most of the course materials but won't understand much of the test explanations without the actual test to look off of. Thanks!

I don't understand how A casts doubt on the reliability of the method. In my mind, you have to make a ton of dubious assumptions to get it to work. First, so what if pollens are transported to different regions by wind or human movement? Do these cases occur in regions where there are ancient relics? You have to assume this. Second, the word "often" is extremely weak/vague. You have to assume that "often" would cast doubt on the reliability, but isn't "often" just a synonym for "some?" Lastly, and probably the most dubious assumption is that the pollens transported by wind/humans matter. What if these pollens don't stick to relics? What if there are ways to distinguish between pollen that had been blowing in the wind? There are a ton of other things you need to assume about the pollens in answer choice A.

I chose D during the exam and during BR (and I think D is an awful answer), but to get D to work, the only assumption (the only assumption I think you need) is to assume that missing data is data about pollen that has stuck to the relics. However, how is this assumption so terrible that it nullifies the ridiculous assumptions you need to get answer choice A to work? I find this question very frustrating...