Hey guys,

So I took the test today and I totally messed up the logic games section --- I ended up guessing on the last five questions. I think I did okay everywhere else, I may have guessed on a few reading comp. questions and one logical reasoning, but not a disaster like the logical reasoning. I was really hoping for at least a 165 to get into my top choice school... should I cancel my score?

Here's my review for Western Washington University. I actually live in BC but this test centre is the closest to my house and it's really good (based on my limited experience) and I'm not really sure I want the word to get out before the next time I have to write haha.

Proctors: There were two women, super friendly and the one at the front was really encouraging, kept telling us how well prepared she thought we looked during the break and after the test was over. They also let us keep water on the desk and reminded people that knuckle cracking was distracting in between sections. Proctors were quiet and I never heard them chatting or saw them moving. One stayed up at the back and the other sat at the front.

Facilities: Restrooms were down the hall, 1 minute walk for slowpokes, 25 seconds for everyone else. I don't know what they looked like because I don't use public washrooms....assuming they were standard, had toilets and sinks...

What kind of room: Small lecture hall (aka higher at the back, lower at the front) with long tables for desks and chairs that were attached by a swivel. Chairs kind of sucked but what can you really expect at a school?

How many in the room: 13 (15 were scheduled but 2 were no-shows). They mentioned to us before the test that they decided to split us into 3 separate groups based on last names so I'm assuming every room had about the same. Plenty of room to stretch out and line up all 15 of your backup pencils. The room was far from being full and I there there was a 3 seat gap in between each person.

Desks: Long tables attached to the floor so no movement. No wiggling.

Left-handed accommodation: No one was left handed in my room but since there were so few of us I'm sure it wouldn't be a problem to move if you needed to.

Noise levels: Super quiet. Literally heard nothing the entire time I was writing. They also had signs posted on the room doors as well as the building entrance/exit doors asking for quiet as testing was in progress.

Parking: Pay parking from a meter. Not difficult to figure out. Walked probably 10 feet from my car to the building. When I did a trial drive earlier in the summer they had a visitor centre that was opened where they told me they would issue visitor parking passes for free but unfortunately the centre was closed last Saturday.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: They were really efficient in getting us all lined up and in the correct rooms. We started the first section at 9:05 but only because one test taker was either super nervous and didn't understand how to complete any of his bubble sheet or didn't pay attention to the instructions and just sat there silently not asking questions. A few people also didn't pay attention when they told us to insert the writing sample form into the last page of the test booklet.

Irregularities or mishaps: One test taker was clearly bubbling in answers after the 5th section ended. The proctor at the rear immediately came down and told him he wasn't permitted to be doing that. The front proctor confirmed but still let him continue after he told them he only bubbled in one hole. I (and probably everybody else except the proctor at the front who was almost right in front of him) saw him the entire time as he as the only person noticeably moving after time had been called. He must have bubbled in at least 10 by the time she told him to stop. He claimed he didn't know he wasn't permitted but we got constant reminders about it so I doubt it.

Other comments: I think that this test centre is underused since it's in such a random middle of nowhere location and I didn't see any other reviews on it prior to writing. The proctor also asked us if we wanted a 10 or 15 minute break before the break started. I wanted 10 but no one else did or maybe a bunch of us did but didn't put our hands up...lemmings.

Would you take the test here again? 100% (sadly that will soon be a reality come grey day...)

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Sep 24, 2016

I know for a fact I am not the only one with the LSAT perpetually on the mind. I probably am not the only one obsessively contemplating when Gray Day is coming. Any Guesses??

I am PRAYING it is not October 20th, considering that is my wife's birthday...

Hi everyone!

I just took the test for the first time this past weekend, and to be honest, I know for a fact I scored ~155 (or lower :(). It really was the nerves for me, as I had been scoring ~160 previously. That being said, I'm preparing for the December test now, and am aiming for 167+ to make up for this initial score (lofty goal I know, but I just started 7Sage and have got to say the methods are way better than the other company I was with!!!).

I read on another discussion that it's best to get your non-LSAT application components submitted by December for this application cycle, and just put a "hold" on your LSAT score. This being said, I have a couple questions:

1) If I don't cancel this first score yet I finish the other parts of the application, will admission committees see my first score of 155? Or will they wait until Jan 5 (or whenever the Dec test score is released) to look at my application for the first time? I would just hate for them to first see my application with this first LSAT score....

2) Does it look bad to start the applications now, yet submit them in December, or worst case, January? I haven't dared to touch the "start application" button on any of my LSAC saved schools, as I'm unsure exactly what they think of this. Nonetheless, I really want to see all the prompts so that I can start thinking about what I should write about!

Any advice would be so helpful, thank you guys so much!

When I took it: October 3rd, 2015

Proctors:

We actually had 2 proctors and they were both very helpful overall. I'm not trying to be age-ist (if that's even a word) or sexist but I greatly appreciated having relatively older ladies as our proctors. They were very inviting and conversational before the test began and I think that calmed down some of the people in the room who were obviously very nervous. Very approachable and knew what they were doing.

Facilities:

Overall the facilities were nice, unlike some horror stories the facility was very well labeled with signs on where to go. The bathrooms were close and were clean, they had a nice lounge that was down the hall from the test center that was good both before the test to accommodate people who wanted to warm up with a section, and during break. Also I know its expected but the water fountains were right there and had really cold water which was a plus considering that I've had water fountains that had room temperature water before.

What kind of room:

We were in a classroom probably 20 ft. by 20 ft. It was big enough to accommodate everybody but also not massive to where you were in an auditorium. It was all level,(no stairs within the room), the room was at a good temperature, and had adequate light. There was a clock in the front of the room which was semi-helpful for the people who didn't bring a watch.

How many in the room:

Including myself we had just under 20 people sit for the exam.

Desks:

The desks were okay, they had enough space to accommodate all of your objects however if you didn't have your pencils vertically aligned on your desk they would roll right down which got annoying. It had a solid sheet top not one of the flip ups that you had on either your right or left side. The legs of the desk were metal and were stable so the desks didn't shake. Overall they were what I expected, each person had an individual desk and the chairs were actually very comfortable from what I remember.

Left-handed accommodation:

I didn't take the test left-handed but the individual who did was accommodated. He sat in the front so when the proctors walked around they made sure to go to his right so that way they wouldn't bump his arm. Overall the desks were square so they could accommodate left-handed or right handed test takers.

Noise levels:

This is no fault of the facility but I took the test in October in the middle of a flood in SC so the siren actually went off on campus because it was storming so bad. Overall the acoustics of the room were solid in that it could block out normal rain or someone walking down the hall but during a thunderstorm/massive flooding the noise definitely was heard.

Parking:

Parking was very convenient, it was a short walk maybe a minute max from there to inside the lounge where you checked in. They had signs set up when you entered campus indicating where to go and where to park which was nice after never being on campus there before.

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

This falls in line with the noise levels and the irregularities sections. When I took the test, because of the severe conditions we didn't start the exam for like an hour and a half after we were supposed to. We waited until like 9:45 or 10:00 before we started. Overall though the proctors and staff did a great job of checking us in very quickly, they simply wanted to wait for anybody who showed up late due to the bad weather.

Irregularities or mishaps:

Quite honestly the test center was very accommodating but mother nature wasn't accommodating at all that day. With the severe flooding and the state of emergency called that day along with other storms I can definitely say I didn't score anywhere near what I was before. We even had someone open the door to tell us that they were closing campus in either the 4th or 5th section due to the weather and then realized that we were taking a standardized test. It wasn't pretty.

Would you take the test here again?

The staff and proctors did a great job battling the elements that day and overall they were very accommodating given all of the factors against them. Overall it was a great facility and I would take the test here again and I would recommend it to anyone. I just wish the weather would have cooperated but everything happens for a reason, so this just gives me a chance now to score even higher!

Hey Guys,

In studying for the September test, I took PTs 63-78. These are the most modern ones; I did not think that I would need to take the December lsat, but now I think I have to. How should I study for it? Should I do PTs 51-63? But then I would not be doing the most modern ones? I sort of messed up :'(

was wondering if anyone had any ideas as to what the difference is usually between the overall curve for the sabbath observer test and the saturday one, if any? Sabbath observer tests are disclosed so hard to tell but if anyone has any estimates about how many they got wrong and what score they ended up getting, or how they did on practice tests vs. the day of if it was a monday test?

Proctors: Super strict, fair, but fast between sections (no time to reset watch)

Facilities: Just one bathroom

What kind of room: Small, dilapidated (a little), way too close to a major street

How many in the room: 20 for our test

Desks: Tables with 2 chairs per table. Annoying texture on the tables made bubbling and essay writing a pain.

Left-handed accommodation: Sort of. They put left-handed on the left side of the table.

Noise levels: Not great but not bad. REALLY BAD for us because they were jack hammering right next to the building during our test but under "normal" conditions I think it would be okay.

Parking: None. Horrible. Have to find parking along residential streets or farther away.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: Arrived early (8:05) for 8:30 report deadline. Started probably around 9:30.

Irregularities or mishaps: JACK HAMMERING!!!!!!!!!!!, the fallout from jack hammering, and a few others that were less egregious. Yikes...

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/8872/horror-story-that-one-can-only-laugh-at-the-absurdity-of

Other comments: The people who took the LSAT there were an awesome group of friendly and amazing people.

Would you take the test here again? Preferrably not but probably just due to the PTSD of our particularly wacked out administration

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Monday, Sept 26, 2016

Overall, I thought this test center was ideal for testing conditions. The proctors started the formal LSAT instructions right as the last person was seated. I was one of the last few students seated but I still had time to use the restroom, which was attached to the testing room, before the formal LSAT instructions began.

Proctors:

I thought the proctors did a really good job. They were very professional and friendly. They followed the LSAT instructions and remembered to give us the five minute warning for each section. One of the proctors did walk around which was distracting at times. I’m not really sure if they are required to for rooms that are very narrow so some students may be harder to see than others from the middle of the room. In any case, thank goodness the proctor with the flip-flops on was not the proctor walking around. Flip-flops are the least noise-friendly shoe for testing environments.

Facilities:

Small law school in the heart of Sacramento with three rooms: one large room upstairs; one medium-sized room on the first floor; and one small sized-room on the first floor. All of the rooms are fairly small in comparison to the large auditorium/gym sized rooms other LSATs are administered at. A thin(ish) wall separates the medium-sized and small-sized rooms so we could faintly hear the formal instructions from the small room after time had started for section 1. It wasn’t horribly distracting compared to Mr. Sniffles sitting next to me and the incessant scribbling by what felt like everyone in the room during section 1.

What kind of room:

I was in the medium sized room with no windows, which at first can give you an Alcatraz-feel, but this is absolutely perfect for testing.

How many in the room:

Approximately 20-25 were assigned to my room, the medium-sized room. There is a smaller room and it seemed like half as many students were assigned there. I can’t speak to how many were seated in the largest room upstairs but I can’t imagine more than another 35-40 students.

Desks:

These desks/tables are the business! There are two seats per desk/table but only one LSAT student was assigned per table, which was perfect. The desk had a flat surface, which was exciting because I’ve taken practice tests with desks/tables that did not have flat surfaces. Not the business.

Left-handed accommodation:

Since the desks are flat tables that seat two and you get it all to yourself, I imagine you would be perfectly comfortable with this set-up.

Noise levels:

Not bad. The only thing semi-abnormal was that we started section 1 before the room next to us finished hearing their formal instructions so we could somewhat hear noise from that direction. It was fairly silent throughout the rest of the test. One of the proctors left once or twice and I was seated by the door but that was not a big deal at all, especially since I had to get used to Mr. Sniffles next to me. Overall, I’m very happy that there was no parade outside, construction project, children’s soccer game, university football game (there is no university close by), or even an ambulance passing by that I heard, which is surprising for downtown Sacramento. This may be in part due to the lack of windows in the room.

Parking:

There is parking at a neighboring law firm and also in the Safeway parking lot. There are signs at the Safeway parking lot stating that the parking is for customer use only but I did see many test takers park there without being towed. I didn’t want to risk it so I got a ride to the test center. It makes the day a little less stressful so I’ll take any ounce of relief I can get!

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

I waited outside of the law school from 8:15-8:30am. Staff opened the doors at 8:30am, asked the students to stand in two single-filed lines, and they checked everyone in at the door. Each of the three testing rooms has a restroom so you could use it before the test starts. Our proctor was nice enough to have a last call for restroom breaks right before she got started with the formal LSAC instructions. No one expressed interest so we got started right away. Our group was the first group to start and end. I didn’t have a reliable watch indicating the time in the outside world (all of my watches are pre-set to 9 o’ clock) but I assume we got started around 8:45. This was way better timing than I had imagined so I was very happy about this.

Irregularities or mishaps:

Nothing concerning.

Other comments:

Overall, I’m very pleased with testing at this location and I would highly encourage anyone in the area to test at this location. I definitely expected a much more stressful experience at the test center but the staff and the small setting made test day the best possible experience.

Would you take the test here again?

Yes!

Date[s] of Exam[s]: September 24, 2016

Which PTs from 50 to 78 do you think are the hardest/toughest/most mentally/intellectually challenging? Would greatly appreciate your thoughts!

Proctors: We had three: one in the front, one in the back, and one in the middle of the room. the one in the front was the one giving the instructions at the beginning and between sections. I always had enough time between each section to reset my watch close my eyes and take a few deep breaths.

Facilities: The campus is easy to find, medium size, large lecture rooms, clean bathrooms, air conditioned and many vending machines (in case you need to grab a snack or a bottle of water).

What kind of room: Lecture room. 11-12 rows.

How many in the room: 18 test takers.

Desks: Medium size, for large lecture room. long desk shared by each row with sliding seats.

Left-handed accommodation: Yes, there was a deisgnated row for left handed test takers.

Noise levels: Minimum noise.

Parking: Parking was easy and there was plenty of slots. $9 parking fee credit or debit cards only (you'll pay on the way out).

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 20 mins. once it was 8:30 am they divided us into 4 groups of 15/18 test takers. each group had three proctors. we walked straight to the exam room. they verified our ID's and admission tickets, and assigned each test takers a seat. we signed the admission tickets and were giving the answer sheet and exam within 15 mins.

Irregularities or mishaps: Nope everything went smoothly.

Other comments: The room was kind of cold.

Would you take the test here again? I definitely would. Too Bad it's not available for Dec.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: 9/24/16

Hello,

So I have applied for accommodations, but I did not explain why I do not have previous records or papers in the statement because there was not enough space to put it.

Can I send an email to them to explain it now? It's about a week, but I have not received their decisions yet.

Or should I wait for decision and if I'm denied or asked to submit additional documents, then send emails and explain it?

Is there anyone sent emails to add information to your statements?

Once it's denied, would it be difficult to acquire the accommodations even though we submit additional statements or documents?

Thanks,

Last December after a year of studying, I withdrew from the test because I knew I wasn’t ready. No problem. I re-dedicated myself to the curriculum and master the concepts that were my weaknesses. When I made that decision, I took my last full PT to provide a diagnostic for my future PT scores. Crazy, with no pressure and albeit a PT in the 30’s, I scored a 170, a score I had never seen other than BR scores. That score gave me the biggest incentive to really delve deep to master the concepts of the LSAT before I took another PT. I was fortunate to take advantage of every moment 7Sage provided for Webinars/ Office Hours/Forum Advice to really understand the LSAT leading up to the June test date. Once again, thanks to Nicole’s advice that I wasn't ready, I withdrew again.

Recognizing the value of the BR calls and trying to accommodate a chaotic personal life, this summer I did just the LR’s to attend the calls for a few weeks. Then, I was stuck with a problem – I hadn’t taken the RC or LG for those tests and had no way to build analytics by entering a full PT nor did I have any idea where I stood in actual PT scores. This is where I got creative. For every new PT LR’s that I was taking for BR calls, I would take the previous PT’s LG & RC. I had already created a cover sheet for all my PT’s for a Global view so I just filled in the sections as I took them and never scored a PT in its entirety.

I gauged my progress within each section not a PT score. When evaluating a section, I broke it down by strengths and focused on my weaknesses drilling them in between tests. Not being able to focus on a PT score I hope really helped me to not get caught in the highs and lows of normal PT experiences. When I sucked at a section, it was easier to tackle specific issues than a mountain of a PT score to try to figure out what went wrong.

Over the past year, I sincerely worked my butt off working on building an internal clock on LR, skipping strategies for all sections and to make the most of my dreaded RC inability. But, I knew my weaknesses going into Saturday and I came out of the test site with a smile – not because I crushed it and no way to know if I tanked it until scores are released – but it was fun to get into a zone where I knew the questions that I probably missed but I felt very confident in the questions that would have caused panic not only in June but especially last December.

All the Best, T

When I took the Feb. 2016 LSAT, I had to answer questions about how familiar I am with technology and how comfortable I would feel taking an exam on the computer vs. on paper instead of the normal questions they ask about how we prepared for the LSAT etc. I thought that was interesting but then said to myself, "I hope the LSAT doesn't turn into the MCAT by taking the exam on the computer." Can you imagine taking this almost 4 hour exam on a computer?!

I just took the September LSAT. I do not think I hit my target, and will probably be gearing up for a retake come December. However, can I start the application process without having to submit my September score?

How does this work?

@"Dillon A. Wright" Please delete if I say more than I am allowed.

Our test today was administered while construction crews were working on fixing the street right outside the testing room. The jack hammering started during section 2 I believe and continued uninterrupted until finally it got so bad that the proctor STOPPED OUR EXAM IN THE MIDDLE OF A SECTION!!!!!!!! But of course not until the JACK HAMMERING! was right next to the building and the entire building was shaking! Repeat, THERE WAS AN INDUSTRIAL SIZED JACK HAMMER ATTACHED TO A BOBCAT PULVERIZING THE CONCRETE ABOUT FIVE FEET AWAY FROM WHERE PEOPLE WERE TAKING THE LSAT! It was terrible before that but the entire building shaking just made it so extra absurd. We sat there for over an hour with our tests closed MID-SECTION! while the silliness continued. Then we finished the rest of the test. So, yeah, no big deal.

I don't even know what to say. It was beyond description and 100% more surreal than I can convey.

AAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! (followed by laughter because the only thing we could all do today was just laugh at the ridiculousness of it all)

So I just took the September LSAT and have no idea how I did. But I'm sure I didn't get my target score (169) so do I wait for scores and then start studying again for December or continue studying now? Something just won't click with LR and I've heard of people taking breaks and coming back and it clicks so just wondering what to do here.

Anybody here took the LSAT yesterday at Brooklyn College?

I had 4 proctors and they were running around the front of the room and whispering to each other very loudly. In fact 3 of them were talking while the timekeeper was reading the instructions. The absolute lack of respect was appalling. I raised my hand hoping to let them know that the talking is very distracting, but they were so busy talking that not one of them saw me raising my hand (I was wearing a bright orange sweater). After I wasted a good minute or two trying to get their attention, I gave up.

Oh and they tried to give us the wrong (4-digit) test center code. I saved the day by pointing out that it is a 5-digit code which is on out ticket. But how is it that 4 proctors don't even have the correct information???

I had to leave and cancel my score because I completely lost focus on that RC section and with 10 mins left I only completed 1 passage, which is not how I have been performing at all. This would have been my third and final take so I am extremely disheartened. Even if I am allowed to take the test again in Dec, I wouldn't be able to apply early in the cycle in Oct, which was my intention.

I am drafting my formal complaint to LSAC and hoping to get another chance. Hoping to find others who were there that could support my claim.

What are the pros/cons?

So...how did it go??? you guys have my utmost respect for sticking through this! I hope you all scored where you wanted and you kick butt in the Law School of your dreams :D

I have been solidly going through all the LSAT games and working on them. Generally, for the older weird games, I've been skipping them. However, as has been the case, I'm worried the LSAT is beginning to bring in more of the odd and weird games out. I looked at the Sept. LSAT discussion thread and saw something about a "Computer Virus" game which people found really difficult. Not sure if it was because it was just a ridiculously difficult game or it was such an odd format people were caught off guard. I'm worried I should be now spending a lot more time focusing on the weird old games than I originally thought.

By weird games, I mean ones that use spacial reasoning or sort of odd scenarios. The chemical experiment one from LSAT 12 or the last game in LSAT 13 are good examples of what I mean by "odd."

Thoughts?

If you have retaken or know you're gonna have to retake, what kind of study break/schedule do you guys take between test day and the score release date and then between score release date and the next test date?

Hello all,

I am an accommodated test taker, and my test has been scheduled for tomorrow (Sunday) instead of today (Saturday). I was wondering if anyone had insight regarding whether I will receive the same exam that was administered today, or if I will receive a totally different test. Thanks in advance for any information.

Hey Everyone!

I know there is a thread that has all the tutors on there, but I was wondering how up-to date it was? I know a lot of the tutors must be in law school by now, and I was wondering if they are still offering their tutoring services, or if new ones will be added?

I'm prepping for the December LSAT and would really like a tutor to help me with my weaknesses in LR (I have a list), and In-Out games in LG. And idk if tutoring in RC is even possible, but I know I need all of the help in the world for that section too lol

Thanks!

Anyone know if some accommodated test takers who take it several days or so after the real one are given the same test? I heard from a friend who tutors that one of her students took it a week later in June because of accommodations and had the same test, which seems kind of weird to me. Just curious if that is one of the reasons for the code of silence pertaining to talking about specifics.