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I am beginning to PT since i last took a Kaplan course. They suggested that at 12 or 15 you skip to 26 and work backward basically skipping the 2nd to last full page and working back to middle. Does anyone else do this ? is it silly or good advice?

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Someone last time recommended "The Great Dissent" by Thomas Healy and I absolutely loved the book.

Figured it would be good to start another thread of book/article recommendations that can help improve reading skills + make you more familiar with LSAT subject matter.I struggle with Humanities passages so if anyone has any recommendations...

I mentioned last time that Bill Bryson's " A Short History of Nearly Everything" is a great read: will help you become familiar with a lot of the topics that are tested on the science passages and is also interesting.

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Wednesday, Nov 4, 2015

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What is the best method to program yourself to look for incorrect answers, as opposed to correct answers, during the LR section?

I was told that this is the most effective approach to do very well within this section. What do you think?

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Just curious if being significantly older than most students applying to law school (lets say hypothetically speaking 20+ years) would qualify you as being URM? Not that I would actually know anyone who was of course :)

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This is how we do it in BR Group. Hope to see you there!

Wednesday, Nov. 4th at 8PM ET: PT68

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  • For the regulars: If for some reason you're not in the group conversation[s] already, just message me on Skype.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it."
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    I just took my first PT in months to prepare for the December LSAT. I finished the course a couple days ago and I scored a 151, and after BR 162. I did miss a significant amount of questions in each section averaging about 7 in each. I'm not sure where to go from here... Should I keep PTing until the exam or....? PLEASE HELP!

    Admin note: Please don't post thread titles in all caps!

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    Hey guys! Can anyone recommend an optimal study schedule from now up to the December test? I'm averaging 158 on my PTs and I am hoping for 165+. Is this a realistic goal?

    I am on PT 45 right now and I hope to work up to the newest one. I understand that the December test is in less than a month-- should I try do a PT everyday (or would I burn out)? Or should I do a PT every other day and blind review/drill on the other days?

    My weakest section is RC; I find that I rarely have the time to even read the last passage. Any tips?

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    I fully completed the 7sage course and wrote practice tests 59-74 scoring between 158-160 constantly, however, I wrote the October test and failed miserably ( less than 150). while I was writing the October exam I managed to finish all the sections and felt pretty good about the majority of the sections, so the score I received didn't make sense to me, I'm not sure if getting 158-160 was just a fluke or if it is something about test day, Can you give me some tips on how to prepare for December and how I can score better.

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    I know there was a discussion thread going on about the 180 watch or just a test watch in general... But, I wanted to get a confirmation. Is it okay to bring multiple watches?

    I was going to order the 180 watch.... but, I guess they ran out of inventory or something because the watch is on back order.. So, I am wondering whether anyone has brought 3+ watches, set them all for 35 minutes, and used them for each different section?

    I would really appreciate all the answers! Thank you!

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    Hey 7Sagers, had someone email me with a question and I thought you guys could help out! Here it is:

    I have a question or comment regarding LSAT 46, game 3, section 4, question 12. The game ask for the order.

    In accordance to the rules P=3 and L and N are before J. The rules don't state that L or N is immediately next to J. Thereby the explained set up is:

    L N P J O or L/O N P L/O J. As with the rules, I agree and can understand this except for N = 2. With L = 4, that places L immediately next to J for LJ.

    That is my problem. If LJ then why not LN. For set up with J=5; L = 1, 2, 4; N =1,2, 4, and O = 1,2,4,5

    For order choices question 12

    L N P J O O N P L J N L P J O

    O N P L J N O P L J L O P N J and so forth.

    The answer choice

    L N P O J - Answer A deemed correct answer choice.

    L O P N J - Answer B deemed incorrect answer choice. However, both L and N are before J with P =3

    N L P J O - Answer D deemed incorrect answer choice. However, both L and N are before J with P = 3

    Please explain. Hail and rain is not a factor to answer this question. In addition, the rules and the scenario do not include N = 2.

    Thank you.

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    Hi all! I have exhausted all test materials from 30 -75. I am redoing tests 50+ and plan for the December retake. Although I am doing these tests again, I am plateauing around 170. I wouldn't say that I remembered all the questions and answers but I think with this kind of performance I would not be able to score 170 in the real thing. Any thoughts on how to improve? Thanks!

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    Hello 7sagers,

    I just signed up a while ago and thought I'd give this forum a shot. I was wondering on logic games, when do you create a table between the game pieces and the base set like in the Feb 1993, Logic Game #4? Sometimes I'll create a table when it is not needed. Thanks for all the help!

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    LSAT in February? No problem

    Wednesday, Nov 4th at 8PM ET: PT50

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    Friday, Nov 6th at 8PM ET: PT71

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    LSATurday, Nov 7th at 8PM ET: PT51

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    Be sure to click the link of the conversation you’re attending and announce in the comments which group(s) you’re planning on attending.

    Note:

  • For the newbies: Add me on Skype, using handle dmlevine76, click the link of the conversation you’re attending and PM your email for Google Hangout.
  • For the regulars: If for some reason you're not in the group conversation[s] already, just message me on Skype.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it."
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    J.Y. and friends,

    I qualify for, and will be granted, extended time on the LSAT as an accommodation for my learning disabilities. I have been using the proctor on the 7sage app and i REALLY like it because of the "distraction" features and proctor announcements at the beginning and the "five minutes remaining" at the end. I am having to pause the app mid-test, then use an additional timer to complete the extra minutes using an online timer, then go back and start the app again for new sections. For obvious reasons, I am having trouble emulating "real test conditions" in this way, and it's eating up a lot of time and causing me to lose focus because of the switching back and forth issue. I'm wondering, especially with the new criteria for disability accommodations on the LSAT, if y'all might consider adding a "time and a half" proctor on the app for students with accommodated testing that also has the distraction/background noise feature?

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    Hey all,

    Just wondering how I can increase focus/concentration? I keep on thinking about other things while doing PT questions. I take longer than I should/could on questions.

    I starting meditation right now every morning.

    Is there anything else anyone recommends?

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    Hi everyone, do you know if there are any real time RC videos where J.Y. Ping reads the passages and answers the questions in real time? The videos I've watched so far are really great but I would love to see and hear him processing the passage and working through the questions in real time. I'm thinking it might help me to see how I could process everything more quickly and accurately.

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    I've been through the Logical Reasoning curriculum - and feel like I need to print it all out, and even just get access to JY's organisational charts... just so that I can read over it and commit it to memory when I'm not at a computer. I've printed out all the cheat sheets - but things like the flash cards are only digital. Does anyone else feel the same way? What's the best solution? Copy and paste?

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    Hey there,

    Does anyone have any information regarding Canadian law schools and their tendency to consider the February LSAT?

    I'm all of a sudden feeling super unprepared for December, and haven't been able to kick that feeling this past weekend. However, waiting until applying for the 2017 admissions cycle is not an option for me. I need to be certain that if I wait for Feb to write (knowing very well that I have a better chance of obtaining a higher score), that I have a chance of still getting in for 2016.

    If you have any info and/or experience with this, it is very much appreciated! Thanks!

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    So I'm a little worried regarding the background check. Serious question: just how thorough is it? See when I was on spring break a few years ago in Italy I was arrested for public intoxication and spent the night in jail (traumatizing) nothing ever happened beyond that, I was released and just told to take it easy next time I visit the country....can I get away with not mentioning this since it was in another country and there's no record of it in the US, or would I need to report it.

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    Hello everyone,

    I have always just read discussion postings and never thought about actually asking a question about my own problem.. Think I really need some sage advice at this point, since I am planning to take the December test, which is my last shot...

    So, a little bit of where I stand in my test prep.

    I finished both the Trainer and 7sage curriculum and have been taking PTs for a month. For a personal reason, I am just preparing for the LSAT full time. So, I take a PT everyday usually in the morning and do BR in the afternoon. I have been consistently taking a test a day at least 4 days a week for a month.

    I used PTs from earlier periods like PT 10 - 28 when I first started out and built my habits based on those. I also added in some PTs from 44-50 and have recently took PTs 57 and 58.

    The problem is... I have been scoring (under timed condition) around 173. My highest score has been 177, which I got three times. But, for the PTs 57 and 58. OH MY GOD. I just did not have enough time to finish some LR and RC questions. Even the games were so hard for the PT 57 especially!

    I got 160 on PT 57 and 168 on PT 58. This is really a huge problem, since I am developing a downward pattern and I don't know what to do....

    I think my average miss on LR is -4 or -5. For RC, I used to get only -1 or max -2, but for the PTs in 50 range... it has been -3 or -4, so it is also very depressing :( I am betting everything on the December LSAT and have to submit my application this cycle. I just don't know what I should do make necessary change....

    I print out a clean copy of the test for BRs. My BR scores range around 175-178, so it is not like I do not have fundamental understanding. For some reason, I can't get some of the easy questions earlier in the LR section fast enough. Timing has become a huge issue, and I would love to get some feedback on my test prep.

    If there is anyone out there who is having a similar problem as I do with dropping PT scores.... could you please share how you overcame that depressing phase and actually made it to high 170s? I would really really really appreciate any kind of advice.

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