How do you diagram unless, except, only if, and if but only if?

Especially unless, I'm super confused. I have been told to negate the left statement but then others say that's wrong. Also what are you supposed to do with statements like: Unless I get an A, I will not go out tonight....? HELP I HATE CONDITIONAL LOGIC

An argument states that: Maria won this year's sailboat race by beating Sue, who has in each of the four last years. We can conclude from this that Maria trained hard.

Premise: Maria won this year by beating Sue who won the last 4 years

Conclusion: Maria trained hard.

I was between these two answers and chose the first one incorrectly:

1. If Maria trained hard, she would win the sailboat race

2. Maria could beat a four time winner only if she trained hard

The explanation says that the first one (the one I picked) is a mistaken reversal, but how am I supposed to know how to conditionally diagram this??

Why couldn't it be diagrammed as if maria trained hard she won, instead of if maria won she trained hard?

So I just have a quick question about percentiles. On the june LSAT I scored a 158 and on the LSAC website, it's says that's the 74th percentile. In comparing the 74th percentile with other conversion tables that is a 160 to a 161. I know the conversion chart varies from year to year, so I was wondering how do law schools look at your score. Do they see you as a 158 or do they see you as the 74th percentile or maybe they take both of these factors into consideration? May someone please clarify this for me?

If this isn't an allowed discussion, please someone just yell and I'll delete immediately. I thought I was going to be taking the LSAT in September, but life got in the way. I have pretty much every test from 07 to 77. Maybe there's a set of 10 I'm missing. Anyway, my husband removed the bindings and we put them in 3 ring binders. Ebay? I'm not really sure what to do with them. If we aren't allowed to post items like this here, can someone tell me where we CAN post these types of things?

I will be applying for Fall 2017, and am taking the LSAT in September. I want to start asking for LORs asap. Do I need to purchase CAS before I get LORS? Also, when will I be able to see my LSAC GPA? I have submitted all transcripts over a month ago.

Hi guys so I have noticed while going through the SA and PSA questions that the answer choice must have the conclusion in the necessary condition. This is very important for me as I often miss answers because of this. Can anyone expand on the theory and understanding behind this and why it occurs. That would help me out a lot. Thanks in advance :)

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I know we have a few LR and Games sections of people taking them live but what about RC?

Hi JY

I came across a question where I don't understand the question stem or how to take on the question type ( Prep Test 36 Q24 Sec 1). Is there a systematic approach on how to take on these "evaluation" questions?

Thanks

I recently took a 2 day break from LR.

I did 2 LR sections today and had much better results. 23/25 and 22/26. I think maybe I needed to just let information and some of the studying I've been doing, sink in. I definitely feel like some of the answers are just "coming" to me now, rather than having to think hard on them. Especially for the first 10 questions.

It's interesting. The questions I circle for blind review are rarely incorrect and sometimes during review I'll second guess myself and actually put the wrong answer down.

Regardless, I'm still finding time to be an issue. The first section I took was 5 minutes over. The second section was 10.

5 I can deal with...10...not so much.

And I know exactly where I'm slowing down as well. It's the harder questions, anywhere from 15 onward. That's also the area I get most of my wrong answers. The first 10 questions I usually complete in 10ish minutes.

I'm wondering if there are any suggestions or time management strategies, specifically for LR, that any of you would recommend?

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Hey Guys,

I am doing reading comp, and I keep seeing questions on the organization of the passage. I see two things that say the passage is describing a hypothesis or describing a thesis. What is the difference between these?

Thanks!

Just wanted to say a big THANK YOU to 7Sage for making my 3 months of LSAT studying much more fun than it should have been. I took the June LSAT in China last month and was notified 2 weeks ago that I got a 173 (99th percentile!). I think the section that 7Sage helped me the most was the LR - answering the questions felt like second nature to me right before and during the actual exam. Thank you, thank you, thank you! And best of luck to y'all out there who are still studying for the LSAT. YOU GOT THIS :)))

Hello,

I am hoping someone could give me some guidance ..

I have been studying the fundamentals of the LSAT sans tutor/books/etc for the past year while working full time and have had moments of "damn! why can't I just afford a tutor!?" and stopped and reassessed my studying & approach. It was at that time (about a month ago) that I came across 7Sage. The one and only PT i have taken is the 2007 one and scored a 144 (very upsetting)

I don't want to give up and think thats the best I can do since becoming an attorney has been a dream of mine since I was younger.

I am working through the curriculum and really taking the time to understand how to approach each section. Does anyone have any advice on anything else I should be doing to supplement the curriculum? I work 8-5 M-F, I study from about 6-9pm M-Thurs. & of course Saturday & Sunday.

I wanted to take the LSAT so I could apply for the fall 2017 school year, but I also don't want to give myself that deadline and add more anxiety to my progress, so I am open to waiting..

Any advice/guidance is appreciated!

Thanks guys :)

Hi folks,

I'm struggling with this question in BR. So I figured I'd post my reasoning and see what you all think of it.

Debater:

Premise 1:Because lecturers are superior to students in mastery, lecturing requires hierarchy.

Premise 2: People learn best from peer interaction.

Conclusion: Hierarchy in lecturing is a weakness.

Respondent:

Premise 1: Because teaching/learning requires simple to complex instruction, teaching/learning requires hierarchy.

Illustration of premise: In math, you must learn arithmetic before calculus.

Conclusion: Hierarchy in lecturing is a strength.

What the respondents' reply most vulnerable to criticism for?

There is more than one flaw, so I listed the ones I could see.

Flaw 1: Response does not address what is sufficient for a strength or defend against a weakness, it simply states that it is required.

Flaw 2: Requirement/necessity does not equal strength.

I'm sure there are more, but those were most obvious to me.

A: Initially I thought this was correct because I thought the argument ignored some assumptions of the debater. But it doesn't. When the debater assumes that peer interaction implies not hierarchy, the respondent responds all teaching/learning is hierarchical.

B: We must accept the premises as true so the argument did not assume that methods in math are as effective in other disciplines. It's an illustration of the premise. Eliminated.

C: Irrelevant to Respondent's argument. We are only talking about whether hierarchy is a strength or a weakness.

D: This is correct. They are talking about two different kinds of hierarchy. The first is lecturer to student hierarchy, the second is simple to complex material hierarchy!

E: Again, must accept premises as true.

Found the correct flaw! They're talking about TWO different kinds of hierarchy! Woo.

Wow. In the 30 minute process of typing this post, I figured it out. If this isn't a good advertisement for a damn good blind review process, I don't know what is. I started out defending A was correct, realized it was wrong, and figured out D was correct. Woo!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-74-section-1-question-16/

Hello All,

I upgraded from premium to the ultimate+ course, and I plan to retake the LSAT in December. Do you recommend I re-do all the course material or just the additional problem sets?

Thanks,

Kristen

The past couple weeks I've been transitioning from the curriculum to the practice tests, and I've found that the only thing that is really changing from PT to PT (5 total) is my BR score (trending upwards). Should I keep powering through the PT's and expect something to eventually click, or is there something else I should be doing?

Just curious. I know that they are very different tests but I was wondering if holding on to my LSAT material will be beneficial four years from now. Also which exam is more difficult?

The Georgetown and Michigan tables were by far the busiest. By far.

Does anyone know how people can get few (like 1 or 2) to zero wrong on RC. I find it ridiculously hard sometimes to attain the necessary information within 8-9 minutes and to answer the questions for each passage.

Are those people just going back and forth between the Q and passage really really fast?

I have commented in the past about what I call the "some people say" principle. I have just finished checking every "main conclusion" question in Preptests 62-71, and have found that the "some people say" formula appears in 14 out of 27 MC questions. In every single one of these instances, the "main conclusion" can be easily and accurately determined by taking the "some people say" text and negating it. (In many cases, the stimulus does this for you--the next sentence after a "some people say" formula is often something like, "But these critics are wrong," or "This suggestion is unreliable, because..."

Hey all -

Just some background info - I started my studying with 7 Sage on May 16th and I plan on writing September 24 meaning I am about halfway through my studying. I scored a diagnostic score of 151 due to an abysmal LG section (-18). I have now completed the curriculum and have taken 7 PT's. My most recent score is a 164 with a BR score of 172. My breakdowns are generally -3 RC, -11 or so in LR and -6 on LG. My main issue as of right now is timing. I find I am a tad slow on every section besides reading. By a tad slow I mean 3-4 minutes. After every test I thoroughly review every question I missed, typing out explanations for every wrong answer etc. Right now I am not skipping questions so I am going to start skipping Parallel reasoning questions and see if that speeds up my timing but besides that do you all have any tips to increase my speed on LR and LG. I think I have potential for a 170+ but this time thing is a little concerning to me. Any tips from you all are much appreciated!

Hey everyone,

I started the core curriculum about 2 weeks ago. I wanted to use the LSAT Trainer, as I know J.Y. recommends it. After some quick research on this forum, it seems that the consensus of the sages is to complete the 7Sage core curriculum first, and then complete The LSAT Trainer. Is this still the case?

Also, do you think it is best to follow The LSAT Trainer study guides? And if so, which one? (4 week, 8 week, 12 week)

Hey guys, this weekend is going to be a bad study weekend for me as I am going to practically be driving and working all weekend, does anyone know of any good books I can get on audio to help me study??? I figure if I am going to be driving 4.5 hours to San Antonio I might as well utilize it and listen to a book. Any suggestions? THX!

I've heard great things about both, but I wanted to know what you'd guys would recommend for my specific situation.

Have a LSAT score in the low 160s with a LSAC GPA above 4.0. I'm retaking in September with the hopes of achieving a 166+.

I'm beginning to work on my apps now. Obviously could use some assistance with PS and resume, but would love to get some comprehensive help. Not sure where I'll be numbers-wise in 2-3 months from now but I have to get started with the application process. Waiting until I get my Sep score results to work on my PS, resume, etc isn't really ideal. Plus, I'd like to apply as early as possible.

Here are my 3 options:

1) Work on everything myself until I get my Sep scores and reevaluate.

2) Spend the $ on the 7sage Admissions Ultimate package (much cheaper than Spivey) to get some help with my PS and resume. Have an awesome PS and resume. If I get my desired score, I finish up the rest of my application stuff myself and save some much needed $ from not having to work with Spivey. If I don't get my desired score, purchase hourly help from Spivey for the other components of my application to ensure I submit the best possible application.

3) Just spend the $$$ on Spivey's comprehensive package. Yes, it's costly, but I've heard from several ppl that it's extremely valuable. Might as well just get started now.

If anyone has any experience with Spivey or David, I'd really appreciate some advice. Don't really know the best way to proceed. Thanks!