I just got both books but I believe I won't have much time to go through both by the December LSAT. Which one would you recommend I keep?

Hey guess, know BR timing is really a subjective thing here, I can reasonably spend 45 minutes on a question until I've really understood the question. Alternatively, I can figure out a question the second I finish rereading something that I missed the first leg around. So I'm curious, how long do you take on average to BR a PT?

I only have 2 months until the test date. So I was wondering which course would be most beneficial to take? Would I have enough time to go through the LSAT Ultimate (the most recommended) in time.

My initial answer choice was the correct answer (B). But I ended up going with A because the language seemed too extreme. Should we expect/allow the language to be extreme in principle questions? HELP!

Hey everyone,

In signing up for the Ultimate 7Sage Course, I read that all of the explanations for the Prep Tests on 7Sage require the student to purchase the official LSAT prep tests themselves. While I was searching for the prep tests, I was unable to locate tests 39-51 which are all covered by the course. Does anyone have any advice on how they overcame this issue? I would love to make the most of the course materials but won't understand much of the test explanations without the actual test to look off of. Thanks!

I don't understand how A casts doubt on the reliability of the method. In my mind, you have to make a ton of dubious assumptions to get it to work. First, so what if pollens are transported to different regions by wind or human movement? Do these cases occur in regions where there are ancient relics? You have to assume this. Second, the word "often" is extremely weak/vague. You have to assume that "often" would cast doubt on the reliability, but isn't "often" just a synonym for "some?" Lastly, and probably the most dubious assumption is that the pollens transported by wind/humans matter. What if these pollens don't stick to relics? What if there are ways to distinguish between pollen that had been blowing in the wind? There are a ton of other things you need to assume about the pollens in answer choice A.

I chose D during the exam and during BR (and I think D is an awful answer), but to get D to work, the only assumption (the only assumption I think you need) is to assume that missing data is data about pollen that has stuck to the relics. However, how is this assumption so terrible that it nullifies the ridiculous assumptions you need to get answer choice A to work? I find this question very frustrating...

I understand that your BR score is relative to your abilities in answering the questions correctly...but am I wrong to assume that it is possible to actually reach your BR score while under timed conditions?

What have your experiences been?

My most recent PT score (first PT since the diagnostic) was 151, blind review is 172. Do you believe in 2 months time I will be able to achieve such a score while under times conditions? Obviously taking into consideration the time I put into studying from now till then.

Anybody know of a 7sage like or lsat trainer like book or course for the GMAT?

I just tried logging into my account, "kristymoawad" and it kept saying "error" and then I reset my password and waited the 15 minutes it forced me to wait and it still kept saying "error" and I'm upset because I'm wasting valuable study time trying to figure out why this site isn't working and I also paid for the Starer upgrade so I'm basically super annoyed right now and confused as to why I can't access my account. Can someone please help me?

Fellow 7Sagers, I need some help on proceeding how to move forward with my prep. I just recently finished the curriculum and took June '07 and PT20 as timed PTs. I did thorough BRs on both of them - first June '07 and then PT20. My main concern/issue was how much I actually remembered of the PT20 LR from the curriculum, and honestly felt that this could not possibly be representative of an actual PT. Before any of this, I initially thought to myself "I'm going to PT every single test 1-35 and BR thoroughly and then move forward to 35+," but I realize this would not be conducive, and is probably too rigid of a mindset. I can't possibly take 1-35 as timed PT takes, I need to build stamina AND have material too drill, rather than just doing PT takes.

My strategy moving forward is below, but please feel free to help me alter it. I don't want to touch PT35+ until I have touched and done BR on the PTs below 35. Is this a fair way to approach it?

-Use PT 15-30 to drill timed sections, slowly building up stamina (by increasing section takes) and do a thorough BR on all sections (and obv fool proof LG) -- the reason I thought these would be best for timed drilling is because a lot of this material appears in the curriculum.

-Take 1-14 and 31-35 as timed PTs, and do thorough BR on them (fool proofing LG). This will give me practice on timed tests, after I've built up stamina and done BR on other material.

My issue is: am I trying to be too methodological about this? Should I just drill timed sections, and then move forward with PTing 35+? This is especially relevant to LG -- I want to do a "finish the bundle"-like approach -- maybe I really should just work on fool proofing all games from 1-35 and drilling the other remaining sections on there and then move forward?

I'd love any help/advice!!!

In understand that the words “for,” “since” and “because” introduce premises with the conclusion following the premise or preceding these words. However, sometimes these words are used in a manner that does not comply to this rule, so I get confused when to apply this concept. Can someone help?

Hi everyone,

I took the October exam on Saturday and felt that it went ok. I'm planning to take Dec regardless to make sure I get a score I'm satisfied with.

I have never used the LSAT Trainer and would like to know what exactly it does well/differently from 7sage? I feel that 7sagers have a good grip on what test materials are good and why. So what are the strengths/weaknesses of the LSAT Trainer?

My biggest struggle sections have become LR and RC.

Thanks!

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Hi All :) I've posted a few times and your advice has always been amazing and assuring!

I took the October exam this past Saturday and thought that it went well. I'm sure my experimental (LR) was the second section, so I think I did pretty okay with the rest of the exam.

I was scoring in the mid to high 160s ish before the exam, so I think I might have reached my goal of getting in the 160s. I don't have a specific target score, but I am looking to get as high as possible.

With that said, I'm thinking of signing up for the December exam for two reasons:

1. If I do get in the range I was looking for, I can always take the December exam and try and squeeze out more points. The schools I am applying to take your highest LSAT mark, so I don't see any harm in taking it a third time for that reason.

2. If I don't get in the range I was looking for, I'll have to re-take anyways, and I wouldn't want to set myself back by two weeks. I am taking a few days off though. :)

My question is.... where do I go from here? I have a few clean PTs left. Some in the 60s and some in the 70s that I saved for this reason. I have been through the curriculum 2x already, so I'm not looking to do it a third time, although I will revisit lessons as needed.

My weak areas are NA, SA, PSA, Weaken, and Reading Comprehension.

I have to go back to work full-time now, so I was thinking of taking 2 PTs a week... 1 Saturday and 1 Sunday, and spending the week BRing the exams and working on my weak points. Obviously I only have a few fresh PTs, so I was thinking of starting in the 50s and retaking 50, 51, 52, 53.... ect and save the fresh ones until I get closer to December. Is that a good idea?

How should I help myself in terms of Reading Comprehension?

What would you suggest to help myself fix some of my LR weaknesses?

Thanks a bunch :D

Hey 7sagers, long-time lurker, first-time poster. Always appreciated the honest feedback and support I see on this site.

Long story short: I took the test for the second time on Saturday after getting just below 170 on my first take. I nailed the experimental LG but took too long on game 2 of the real LG and it threw off the rest of the section; I remember having to straight up guess on ~1-4 questions and "educated guess" (down to a couple answer choices) on ~3-5. My memory's honestly super vague on exactly what happened. It sucks because I legitimately thought I killed the rest of the test.

My question: what do I do? I'm aiming for a 175+ and after all the practice I did, I was very confident going in (was scoring around there on PTs and killing LG). It's my second take, so the serious options seem to be keep -> see what I get -> retake a third time if necessary, or cancel -> retake a third time. I'm just not sure which option looks better / is better, and still a little foggy-headed from what happened.

Any advice is much appreciated.

Has anyone had an issue with the 180 Watch resetting too early? This happened to me during Saturday's administration of the test. After it reached 30 minutes, i.e. in the final 5 minutes when I needed it most, it reset back to 0 and stopped. I had a backup watch packed so it wasn't a big issue but it did distract me a bit in the first two sections.

My watch was always been a little finicky. I'm really hoping it's a matter of calibration and that I won't have to replace it. Please let me know if you have had a similar issue.

For people with very tiring workouts, what works for you? I really used to love working out in the morning, but then it's like I've used up a ton of my energy so focusing becomes a bit challenging. Also curious about thoughts on working out the day before a PT.

You guys just take one of the most difficult exams and you guys rock! How do you guys feel about it? Is there any section particularly difficult?

Was wondering if 7Sage thought about the ability for 7Sagers to download the lesson videos and watch them without the lifeline of internet connection? The only reason (sufficient condition LOL) I ask is because I'll be without solid internet access for 7 months while deployed and would like to still go over lessons during down time. Any thoughts or has this been considered / implemented?

Can someone please explain this question.

admin note: please don't post full questions on the forums!

Just took the nondisclosed test overseas. Had LG as experimental. Trying to sort which games was real. Anyone else take nondisclosed version? Thanks :)

I started studying for the LSAT in Mid-July and studied intensively till right before the October test. I was pt'ing at about 170-173 range for a long time. I took about 30 times PT's. I noticed that as I got up in the PT's to the 70s my numbers slightly dropped to the lower end of the spectrum 170 and some 169's. Regardless I took the October LSAT and while it seemed relatively easy while I was taking it. I feel extremely uncertain. If I get below a 170 I am 100% retaking. Should I continue to study from now until I get my score? I've also burned through all of my PT's. How should I prepare? My score breakdown has been remarkably consistent across all tests with

LR at -0 to -4 (combined)

RC at -0 to -3

LG at 0 (in the easy pt 40s) to -7 or 8! Usually around -3 to -5.

I've been through the trainer (not the logic game section) and the entire 7sage curriculum.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

I made a Scantron mistake that led to me to correct about 4 pages worth of LR answers. I didn't have time to erase very thoroughly and make strong, new marks, but I was able to erase and make new marks... How sensitive is the Scantron? Can it tell the difference between old and new marks if the old marks were erased but not very well erased?

Hello J.Y.,

I want to start by saying that you are absolutely amazing. Your methods for solving logic games are the most efficient out of any class/tutors that I'v encountered, your logical reasoning techniques are unmatched, and you have a great method to attack reading comp while most LSAT prep out there hardly even mentions it (implicating that your reading comp score is what it is). That being said, I just recently took the October LSAT. I purchased your prep course about 4 months before the test and was only able to complete about 70% of it, I really did do the best I possibly could. However, I actually went into the test feeling rather confident about my abilities, I had scored in the high 150s to low 160s on some previous prep tests but for some reason I would have a lingering prep test here and there that I would absolutely bomb, horribly. Im talking like scoring 15 or so points lower than my average score. So although I was scoring decently high on practice tests prior to the October LSAT, I still was rather nervous about the possibility that I would have one of "those" bad scores on the real test day. Anyways long story short my fear came true and I was not even half way through logic games when the proctor announced "there are 5 minutes remaining" (major bummer). So I am taking it again in December. I have simply put too much time and wasted too much energy to just give up on this now, and honestly I feel like I have way too good of an understanding of the test to accept a score that is as low as the score I probably got yesterday! I want to study for the next two months or so before the December LSAT, I will do whatever it takes to succeed on this test, I am not a quitter. Like I said, I have completed between 60% and 70% of your course, taken about 10 prep tests, and tried my best to blind review exactly as you instructed. I have also read the entire book and done all the homework for the LSAT Trainer. My question is, given the amount of prep I have already done, what do you think is the best course of action to best prepare me for the December LSAT in a couple months? I would really appreciate any advice you can give me!

Thanks,

Doug G.

Not leaving yet!.....but I just finished my 3rd and last LSAT!

I took 3 consecutive sittings Feb-June-Oct of this year and am grateful that 7Sage has been there for the journey. My LG by and large improved the most. On my diagnostic back in July 2014 I got like a 7/23 on LG and I'm 99% confident I got a perfect 23/23 on today's LG.

Now I get to look forward to polishing up my PS and get ready to submit when scores come out.