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Last comment saturday, jun 25 2016

LOR Through LSAC

Hello all, I just had a quick question about LORs. What is the ideal way to go about them? Is it best to have your recommender do it manually or to send them the LSAC form and do it through there? Any advice/opinion is welcomed. Thank you.

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Hey guys, I'm doing some older questions as a 5th section on my PTs, and I decided to take PT 7's first LR section. I'm BRing it right now, and I can't for the life of me figure this one out; I skipped it twice during the exam, and I'm still just as clueless on it during BR.

It's a resolve/reconcile question.

In 1990, major engine repairs were done on 10% of NMC cars made in the 1970s while only 5% of those made from the 1960s had major engine repairs done.

What I am looking for: We need to explain the difference. What if cars from the 1960s had sturdier engines or something? What if NMC cranked up production in the 1970s, and cranked out a ton of cars with bad engines?

Answer A: So what? The cars have ALREADY been registered; who cares about the requirements beforehand?

Answer B: I think this sort of makes it stranger. If newer cars (1970s) are driven more carefully than older cars (1960s), then why do cars from the 1970s have a higher proportion of engine repair?

Answer C: This is the credited answer, but huh? What does scrapping the car have to do with anything? This is saying that the 1960s cars are more likely to be scrapped/not repaired than 1970s cars. I just don't see how this resolves anything or is relevant to the issue.

Answer D: OK, but does simplified mean easier to break? This does nothing.

Answer E: This is what I ended up picking, but I really didn't like it (I felt good enough about my POE; plus, I had to choose something since I had skipped this twice). I think this is sort of similar to the idea in answer choice A. Some of the repairs from the 1960s cars could have been avoided if the owners weren't lazy with repairs. But, so what? We are talking about cars that WERE repaired, so this fact doesn't explain anything about the figures given. Why is it still the case that the 1960s cars were repaired at a lower proportion?

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Just a quick question for you veteran PT takers out there... the LG sections of my PTs (all of the older ones, at least) are not formatted as they are on the modern LSAT -- meaning, each game is on a single page with little space at the bottom.

How do you guys go about replicating the real thing? Should I just make do with the little space at the bottom, or do you guys use scrap paper on the side?

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https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-34-section-3-question-20/

Hi guys, having a little bit of trouble with this weakening question. Here's my understanding of it.

(Premise) -> In authoritarian society the metaphor society as a human body governed by it's head is pervasive. (What makes something pervasive? If it has political utility as mentioned in the first sentence)

(Conclusion) -> Therefore, the society as a body metaphor, with its connection between society's proper functioning and governance by a head, promotes greater acceptance of authoritarian repression than do other metaphors, such as likening society to a family.

So-> My guess of the logical jump being made from p -> c is that since in authoritarian regime has great utility in the society as a body metaphor over society as a family metaphor for acceptance of opression/proper function it is therfore more pervasive. S

So the answer choice (A) weakens this by saying that since in an authoritarian society both are as popular, the pervasiveness is not fully determined by utility?

Basically im confused as hell.

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Last comment thursday, jun 23 2016

Prep Help

Hey!

I just graduated from undergrad and am now taking a gap year to prepare for the LSAT and hopefully get some legal experience too! I'm dedicating the first two months (August and September). just to studying so I was wondering if anyone has any advice as to how to self study! (Books, sites, apps, classes) I'm also not sure whether to sign up for a prep course (and if so, which one). I did Kaplan last summer and didn't feel it increased my score significantly enough but I need a lot of practice and help :/ any advice would be much appreciated!!

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I always get confused between the NA answers that states A most B and a subtle conditional (the correct answer). During the BR, I am able to correct myself by stating A most B strengthens but isn't required. But during the actual test, I find it quite difficult to choose between the two.

Therefore, I made a rule to myself: if the answer deals with "most," skip it.

Would that be a safe rule to apply for the NA questions?

I know that other existential quantifiers, such as some, can still be a valid NA answer, because negated some statement is absolute (None).

Thank you for your help.

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Y'all too boys.

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    Last comment wednesday, jun 22 2016

    Assumptions and a peculiar pattern

    Okay let me just start from the start. My cold diagnostic was a 145 (June 2007). Since then I've studied for about a month and a half taking a PT scoring a 149 (December 2012) and a PT today scoring a 155 (PrepTest A from SuperPrep). I've seen improvements in just about every category except assumption questions in which I've scored in order of PrepTests, 0/3 (0%), 2/3 (66% guessed correct answers), and 1/5 (20%). I've been through the Logical Reasoning Bible and my assumption question scores still just aren't there; any tips on improving them? Also a peculiar thing is that my flaw in the reasoning questions went from a 6/8 (75%) on PT2 to a 2/7 (28%) on PT3. Are these drastic fluctuations normal especially to begin with considering I'm only on my third PT?

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    Last comment wednesday, jun 22 2016

    Delaying Law School

    Hi guys!

    I'm looking for some feedback regarding pros and cons to delaying the law school admissions process. I'm about to be a senior in college, and initially had planned on taking the LSAT in September, in order to apply this fall. I know it's an option to take the test in December, but I also know admissions are rolling, and I want to give myself the best shot at getting into the best school I can. I've read that admissions counselors advise that you get your apps in by October at the latest.

    I'm looking for some feedback as to pros and cons of delaying the process until after I graduate--as in graduate in May, take the LSAT in June and apply for law school that fall. I'm applying for an internship program in D.C. for my final undergrad semester right now, and a lot of the interns who participate are able to turn their internships into jobs post-grad. This would have the dual benefit of real work experience (not sure how valued that is by law school admissions?) and, hopefully, a killer recommendation letter from a supervisor, so both those things are worth considering.

    I appreciate your help!

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    Last comment wednesday, jun 22 2016

    Retaining Information...

    Allo,

    I'm curious to know how one might be able to retain the information gained from going through the curriculum. Please share effective methods/tools that you think are helpful.

    Thanks.

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    Last comment wednesday, jun 22 2016

    Blind Review

    Hey guys, I just thought i'd let you all know what's been working for me lately.

    I stopped using fresh pts and decided to go back and reinforce my LR fundamentals for pts 35 and under. Now i'm forcing myself to BR on a fresh test and to write/type (I use a word document) why each answer choice is wrong/right instead of BRing on the test I took. It does take a while especially at this part of my prep because I have confidence errors and i'm still trying to master the methods and strategies, but I have nothing but time and I already see a difference in my thought process. I'm more cognizant of the small habits that are costing me points.

    If you don't do this already or you want to take your br to the next level, give this a try.

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    About a month ago, I took my cold diagnostic and scored horribly. Since, I've purchased the LG and LR Bibles and have gotten through Ch 5 of both and have improved but I am worried that I have a glass ceiling. My goal is a 165 and I know that the cold diagnostic means nothing but what else can I do between now and September?

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    I just took PT 36 as the first full test after the curriculum. I haven't done the BR yet and I really don't want to speculate on my score, but I just can't do the games. I freeze. My mind goes blank. The inferences I can pull out don't seem to make a difference. Needless to say, I didn't finish the section. I thought hey, I know how to do this type of game, but then nothing falls into place and I"m just sitting there wasting time. It's just disheartening when i feel like I at least have some inherent skill at the other sections and I can apply what I've learned from watching the videos, but the games just tear me apart.

    Are there any other ways to getting to at the games? I know JY says to print out multiple copies and just keep doing them over and over again, and I'll do that, but I'm apparently just not getting it.

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    Last comment tuesday, jun 21 2016

    How much did you review

    Hi guys. My question is when you guys hit the PT stage, how much review of the curriculum did it require? I understand it's an "iterative process" as JY likes to say of finding your weakness, going back reviewing, then working on it and so forth. But for you personally did it require going over everything or just a few places places that required patching up

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    Hi,

    I am practicing turning the kind of colloquial English sentences on the LSAT into strict logical statements. For example, take the following sentence:

    All that is needed for the forces of evil to succeed is for enough good men to remain silent.

    I would translate this logically as:

    enough good men to remain silent --> forces of evil to succeed

    I'm reading "All that is needed is" to signify that the predicate that follows will be a sufficient condition. Here are four more examples:

    - The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.

    - In order for ‘evil’ to prevail, all that need happen is for ‘good’ people to do nothing.

    - The surest way for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing.

    - All it takes for Evil to prevail in this world is for enough good men to do nothing.

    I suspect that the predicate in each case defines a sufficient condition. What do you think?

    Thanks,

    Stephanie

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    Last comment tuesday, jun 21 2016

    Currently freaking out

    I took my cold diagnostic a couple of weeks ago and got a 152 w/ -18 in lg, -7 and -6 in lr, and -7 in rc. I've been self studying for about 2 weeks and it is so frustrating!!! Balancing work and studying is so difficult. I'm just worried I won't be able to improve to a 169 by September.

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    Last comment tuesday, jun 21 2016

    Is September too soon?

    I started studying May 15th and will be completing the full 7Sage curriculum by next week. That being said the games are really posing a challenge for me. On my Diagnostic I missed 18/23 on the games but I was also completely clueless on what to do. Now I have gone through sequencing games and feel pretty confident but the Sequencing with a twist seem to be a lot harder for me and I am not even to the grouping games yet. I am shooting for a 168+ come September so that I can comfortably apply for this cycle and even apply ED if needed. I'll be applying with a 4.0 GPA (Finance - if it matters) and am really looking to get into a T14. My RC is going well as I am missing on average 2-4 and LR still needs some work missing about 6/section but I just want to make sure I am not rushing anything. I dedicate about 4 hours/day to this test and would like to be ready for September but I see no point in taking the test if I will not be ready to perform my best.

    Did the games just start to come naturally for y'all once you kept doing them over and over and watching the videos 7Sage provides? Was there anything else you did that helped you with the games that JY didn't recommend?

    Thanks for any suggestions.

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    If I buy Ultimate+ now, the most recent PT included is 77. But will I also have access to future PTs as they are released and before the 18-month end date? Just want to know before I shell out the dough.

    [Admin note: Ultimate+ includes 12 months now]

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    Last comment tuesday, jun 21 2016

    Apps Question

    Is there a specific order in which to take care of everything? For example, is it better to ask for LORs before you write your personal statement or after? I'm currently reading/learning about the process and plan to begin over the next few days. Here's the order which I came up with, would really appreciate if someone can tell me whether I'm going about this the right way.

    1) Submit transcripts

    2) Resume

    3) Rough draft personal statement

    4) Ask for letters of recommendation (give writers resume and PS to assist)

    5) Revise and perfect PS

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    Hey guys! Here's the official June LSAT Discussion Thread. Please keep all discussions of the June 2016 LSAT here!

    Here's some ground rules, taken from my usual sticky:

    We know that everyone will be excited to discuss what was on the June '16 LSAT, but mentioning specifics about the test (e.g., "I got B for question 6" or "the 3rd LG was sequencing") can get both us and you in a lot of trouble with LSAC. Saying that the test was hard/easy without going into detail is okay, but anything more specific is not okay. LSAC monitors this forum.

    If you're unsure what may be too specific, feel free to PM me with what you'd like to post.

    The only exception is you can say which sections were real or experimental. For example, the LG with "flowers" was experimental. That's okay.

    TL;DR: PLEASE don't talk specifics about June's LSAT!

    Here's where you can see the current Real/Experimental Sections:

    https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6923/june-2016-lsat-real-experimental-sections-keywords

    Have fun discussing!

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  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Win the argument with your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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