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Saturday, Jun 13, 2015

Order of PTs

After starting PTs a couple weeks ago with 36 and going in order from there, I started to wonder what other approaches people take to doing PTs. So for those of you that are in PT mode I was curious about strategy. Does everyone just do them in order and eventually see a decrease in their scores as PTs get harder and then their scores rise again when they adjust? Or are some of you mixing it up a bit and either doing them randomly or deliberately in a different order, but perhaps saving a few of the most recent for right before your real LSAT?

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All lessons with problem sets are not available. For example, "Main Point and Main Conclusion Question Problem Sets" and "Most Strongly Supported Questions Problem Set" and their corresponding answer pages are saying "page not found". Any ideas what's happening?

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GROUP 1: IF, WHEN, WHERE, ALL, THE ONLY, EVERY, ANY, WHENEVER, ANYONE & GROUP 2: ONLY, ONLY IF, ONLY WHEN, ONLY WHERE, ALWAYS, REQUIRES, MUST (Group 1 indicators follows with sufficiency and group 2 indicators follows with necessity)

In the logic introduction lessons, J.Y has introduced a very effective way to translate English into Lawgic language. I think it is very helpful and mechanical. However, I think it would be better if folks could help me to understand the actual meaning of these indicators from group 1 and 2 in order to memorize them and process faster. Some words look so similarly. For example, "the only" is from group 1, while "only, only if" are from group 2; "when" is from group 1, while "only where" is from group 2. Can somebody help me to understand how to distinguish those words, so I can process the translation more easily, or could you please share how you memorize those words which look very similar.

Thank you so much!!

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Hey, guys!

I was wondering if anyone here had any experience with the Law School Prep course here at 7Sage. I love the community, the program is amazing, and I'd like to continue supporting this program as it supports my growth and ability to do well in law school. I've watched all the free videos, and I'm confident that my familiarity with 7Sage will be a nice fit with the Law School Prep Courses offered. However, What does it include that programs like "Barbri" and "Mini Review" do not? Maybe this is the wrong section for this, and maybe I'm asking too many questions, but I'm not exactly sure what to look for. Am I looking for just practice exams at issue-spotting? Am I looking for more than that? Will I need to go beyond 7Sage like some others do for the LSAT prep course (LSAT Trainer mixed with 7Sage)? I love 7Sage, and I trust their product, I just want a bit of a nudge haha! Hope all the waiters are dying with anxiety like I am :D! Good luck to those studying! This is an awesome course.

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im a bit confused, after the first blind review section it just jumped to a practice exam with all the sections when all ive done so far is some grammar and intro to arguments sections.

can someone clarify? thnx

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PT66 BR Tonight at 8pm EST

Just when you were thinking to yourself, "Man I sure could use some group blind review..." Well, we're doin' PT 66 tonight at 8pm EST.

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  • Note: We prefer not to check answers during the call; if you do this as part of your BR process, that's fine—but for the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :)
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATter (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    I know most people have a pretty hard time with RC and there are a host of issues going on. One issue that I think trips up a lot of people is familiarity. If you were an art history major who hates science, then that passage on chemistry is probably going to suck for you. The opposite is also true, as many of the writings on the humanities or law may be difficult for STEM experts. With all of the work everyone is putting in simply to go through the curriculum, learn the test, drill questions and do PTs, there isn't much time left to follow the common advice to read Science, Nature, The New Yorker, The Economist, etc. So what's an aspiring law student to do? One word: audiobooks. I searched the forum and couldn't find any mention of using them and so I thought I'd offer it as a possible solution for developing familiarity, and it won't even cost you a dime. A few months ago I got my first library card since I was a kid and started checking out a variety of audiobooks to listen to during my commute to work (~60-90 minutes roundtrip). While at first I grabbed whatever was new, or seemed to have an interesting premise, I eventually realized that I should use it to familiarize myself with areas I hadn't studied in a long time. I can't begin to say how much it has helped me on RC, as well as on a small handful of random LR questions that were a bit dense with scientific terminology. Simply passively listening to books on chemistry, cosmology, physics, etc. has helped me read scientific passages more easily, to the point that I now get somewhat excited when science passages come up whereas I used to slog through them. I find it is also much easier to read these passages once you have heard many of the words out loud rather than reading them on your own elsewhere and not knowing what they sound like for sure.

    So in the interest of building this thread as a catalog of possible choices of audiobooks to go find at your local library, here are a few I have both enjoyed and found helpful so far:

    The Disappearing Spoon And Other True Tales of Madness, Love, and the History of the World from the Periodic Table of the Elements by Sam Kean (very entertaining book about chemistry through the lens of the periodic table, he's also written a couple other books I'm going to hunt down since I like his writing/reading style, they're called The Tale of The Dueling Neurosurgeons, and The Violinist's Thumb)

    A Brief History of Time by Stephen Hawking (pretty heady physics and cosmology for casual listening but generally it's amazing)

    The Grand Design by Stephen Hawking (a much more accessible and more recent work)

    I haven't done this yet but I want to do it before the end of this month, if you go to this link you can download oral arguments from the Supreme Court and then put them on your phone or MP3 player or a CD and then listen which should help with some of those dense law passages we encounter: http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/argument_audio.aspx

    If anyone has any other audiobooks or other audio resources to suggest just post them here and I'll add them to this list so everyone can find a quick and consolidated list to help save time while passively learning new things. Good luck everyone and I hope this helps y'all in your prep!

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    I am using the most recent version of Chrome (Version 43.0.2357.124) and about a week ago or so I started having issues with the Recent Discussion links on the dashboard page. I can see everything on the dashboard just fine but I can't access any of the discussion board topics from the dashboard. The little white glove still appears to indicate a hyperlink, but nothing happens when I click the topic titles. However, I can access the discussion forum from the top banner and then everything works for me from the main discussion forum page. Is anyone else having similar issues? It's not a huge deal, just thought I'd bring it up because I usually access the forum through comments on the dashboard and now it's not working. Thanks for any help in this matter.

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    Quick question. Do you guys watch all video explanations of all the homework and exercises (games, RC, LR) in the core curriculum? It's taking me awfully long to finish it and I want to know if I should change my approach here. Thanks in advance you beautiful people!

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    I have some study materials I need to rid myself of. I have about 20 preptest (that have been done but can either be erased or used as study materials) and 3 Power Score Bibles (lr, rc, lg) clean, no marks. I am willing to send this stuff to the first person who wants it. Free, just send me a message. My husband will appreciate you, he is sick of finding a prep test in every room of our house.

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    Tuesday, Jun 9, 2015

    June 2015 Waiters

    Alright, the waiting game starts. I don't think I saw another waiters discussion on here. Let me know if there is and I missed it. Would anyone like to take guesses on the release date? Considering there is a holiday weekend, I say July 2, just to get it out of the way.

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    Thursday, Jun 11, 2015

    October

    I took a long-ass break from the LSAT to focus on work. Now, I'm getting back into LSAT mode for this October. For those of you in the same boat as myself---how does everyone feel about their prospects? It's been said (with more or less accuracy) that the October test is the most popular time to take it. Did that factor for or against your reasons to go with this October? All opinions are welcomed! :)

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    I am struggling with reading comp. It is not the sort of struggle with not understanding the material either, rather I am having to read the passage at such a pace that it makes me miss some important details, and then when I am asked a question about the details, I recall where it is, and some of its purpose, but not enough to get the question right. I guess I am having trouble prioritizing some details, as well as having timing issues. Is this normal when starting to do RC? and for individuals who are good, or improved their RC drastically, what are some tips you can give me. I am literally dedicating every single day to this test, I do nothing but study all day, I cut my job hours, I barley communicate with the outside world at this point lollol. I need a 173+ score, I have to get a 173+ (I have to for me not for anyone, or anything else) So please every single tip even if you think it is insignificant, it isn't. W.E. time I must dedicate to get better I will, I just want/need to get over this frustration already LMAO. I majored in Philosophy, so all I did was read, and write. I didn't even think RC was going to annoy me this much. Also I am taking my LSAT in December.

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    Does anybody know when the personal statement program will start?

    Just saw the discussion thread for that and I wish I had submitted an essay to him while he was offering to revise them for free :(. But it still sounds like something I want to be a part of! Maybe I missed another discussion about when this program will be ready to start? Does anybody know? Thanks in advance!! :)

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    I really need some advice. My fiancee is in medical school, and will begin his residency when I begin law school. The way that residency works is that medical students pick where they apply, then are matched based on a ranking system. This means that he won't know where he will be for residency until the match day on March 18th.

    Our original plan was for him to apply to residency programs only in cities where I have a few good law school options. Then after he was matched, I would choose a law school in that city. I studied really hard for the lsat to be sure that I would have options in multiple large cities. I have a good gpa. This seemed like it could work.

    I was looking at admission timelines, and it appears that some great schools require you to give them an answer by the end of February. I won't know where my fiancee is matched for residency until March 18th. What should I do? Do you think law admissions offices will be flexible with those deadlines? We will be married at that point, and really don't want to live long distance at the beginning of our marriage.

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    Does anyone think it hurts your chances of scholarship if you only apply to one school? my question is basically: Does having multiple applications and offers out there foster an environment of competition for qualified candidates, Basically rewarding u for attending their schools, OR do u get rewarded the same way if you have good qualifications and only apply to one school?!

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    The only two schools I have my sights set on (both top 30 schools) are waiting for this score to possibly admit me for the next academic year. Although I knew going into the LSAT (this first time 'round) I wasn't going to blow things out the water, I was determined to keep my rhythm and morale up never the less. After starting out slow I made some traction and felt things might go my way -that is until the Games section knocked the wind out of me! For the life of me I don't know what happened? Although I had done games daily and even enjoyed myself most the time, I felt as if this were the very first time I had ever come across any game. Long story short... I'd be surprised if I even got 5 right within that section. My gut tells me (that at best) my results will be in the lower 150's; therefore, I am debating canceling my score. Even though I'd love to start school next year, I just can't see how that's likely with a B average GPA and a 150'ish score -especially so late in the year.

    The question I'm putting forward (to you guys n' gals) is do law schools take your most recent attempt or do they average it out? I really would like to have your wealth of knowledge on this as I have to make a decision within the 6 day time frame to nullify the score -BTW, is that 6 business days or just days of the week?

    Personally, I believe a non-scored test still looks a whole lot better than a low score, but I really am open and looking forward to your opinions on this. Thanks for hearing me out and taking your precious time to respond.

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    Hopefully someone who is far more organized than I am right now can answer this.

    Call me short-sighted but I have studying like a mental patient for the LSAT since last December and have researched prospective law schools. I have a very general idea of when I would like to submit applications but that's about it.

    Question- What the heck do I do know? I felt pretty good about the test (hopefully I didn't just jinx it, lol) but am open to retaking in October if I fall short of my PT average or if I just feel like it.

    What's the first thing you would start working on post-LSAT? I have not done any work on any statements, etc. It's been all LSAT, all the time. Letters of recommendation first? I know people are generally slow. Nothing until scores? Study some more for possible retake? Old habits die hard after all..

    Thanks!

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    I see some people who are getting creative with their own methods of prep, such as making lists, making excel documents to test inferences, and the like. I want to put out a challenge for anyone who chooses to accept.. it would probably help all of us as well as help the author:

    -Come up with a bunch of fake "game setup" situations that have ambiguous or complicated boards that we will have to translate into a board. (I don't think you have to go all the way and write a whole game)

    -Come up with a bunch of conditional translations useful in grouping and sequencing games. (A is before B unless C is before D, Z is 3rd if and only if Y is 7th, B is on Tuesday or Wednesday if C is on Thursday)

    I know various courses already have things like this, but why not throw some more out and make it interesting?

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    Hi, I have been practicing logic games following the fool proof method, it has helped a lot in my confidence. I have become better and getting -2 or -3 for the logic games section i do the first time, however, i have been struggling with the speed. For games which should take 8 minutes i end up taking 13-14, for most games i take like 5 minutes extra than the ideal time to finish though i get almost all answers correct. Anyone else experiencing the same? I have finished the logic games core curriculum and haven't started taking practice tests yet, should i get the Cambridge lg bundle, should i recycle the games from the core curriculum? Will drilling the same types of game would be more helpful? Any suggestions

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