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For reading comp, how many mins should you spend reading the passage? 8 mins each passage? and 1 min each question? Because, I am struggling getting all 4 passages. Usually I get just 3. Any tips? or advice on improving reading comp would be helpful as well.

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Hello all!

I went through the 7Sage curriculum last year from September - October. I was going to take the Dec test but have decided to push back. I'm trying to score at least a high 160s but preferably in the 170s. 7Sage helped my LG immensely. I was losing a ton of points on RC and missing around 5-7 on each LR section. I haven't taken a PT since around November/December, and have gone through some PowerScore books. I am desperately trying to get my LR score down to as close to -0 as possible. I don't have a ton money to throw at books right now, but I have decided to get one of these: Manhattan LR or LSAT Trainer. I have heard so many things about how the Trainer has been a God-send, and I have recently been seeing several posts on different sites about how Manhattan LR is king for LR, etc etc.

For those of you who have used one, I'd like to get your thoughts on the one you used, or, if you used both, I'd like to know which order you would suggest using them or which you liked better and why.

Thanks for your help!!

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Hi 7Sagers!

Just wanted some wisdom on the optional diversity statement. I know that usually there is no specific length on a Diversity Statement and its customary for 1 or less but mines is shaping up to be 2. What do you guys think? Does anyone else have 2 paged DS?

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Hello 7sages,

I found it's very time-consuming if I have to copy game boards to next page, especially there's more than 2 game boards (for example, PT 41, G1 and G2)

Does "to write fast and accurately" the only to overcome this obstacle?

Thanks for your help!

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I'm really starting to worry.. 3 months ago I was scoring in the 150s. I've studied extensively since. Over time that got up to 160, and over the course of the next four tests, my score remained in the 160s, my highest of which was a 167. My next PT dropped to 159, but there were a couple bubbling errors I had made, so my actual raw score put me at 160. But then my most recent test, which I took earlier today, was a 156! That's what I would've gotten 3 months ago! And I've been working so hard and feel like I've made MAJOR improvements. And it's not like my studying has slowed or anything recently. I've kept up with it and have been focusing on issue areas. I think I may just need to get better at timing/pacing myself, because I do run out of time with each section. I'm not really sure what to think. All I know is that I'm extremely frustrated and nervous. Is this happening to anyone else?

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Hi Everyone! My name is Justina. I currently work full time (40 hours a week) and go to college full time (finishing my BA this May 2015) I also picked up a part time job (20 hours a week) to make extra money to not be completely strapped. The 2014 school year for me was extremely important. This summer I had a 4.0 semester and this fall I have a 3.8 semester in order to get my GPA to be a 3.60 by the time I graduate. I was taking 5 classes each semester. I am relieved that I have a much better GPA than before. (1.9 when I first transferred to this school) However, I am completely not ready to take the LSAT and I had my heart set on going to law school in the fall of 2015. I would like to go to Florida State U which has medians of 3.43/159 - which is realistic. FSU accepts applications until June 2015 for Fall 2015. My cold score was a 143. I would like to get a 160. (Was supposed to take Dec test and cancelled it) I have not taken a PT since August. I would like to know if anyone has advice, encouragement or anything similar to my situation. I read so many posts that people quit their jobs to prepare for this exam which is amazing but for me is not an option. Can anyone share their story if they are balancing a hectic life at the same time? Would I have a shot into this school if I took the June LSAT and scored mid 160s (since they do accept June) My biggest fear is not going to law school this fall and completely taking a left turn in the life I had planned. Thanks Everyone.. Sorry if I went on and on!! (I am signed up for the 7 sage starter course)

Justina

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Hi everyone, My name is Shane K. Im currently 30yo, have a BAS in audio engineering, currently own my own business and just recently passed the Washington state real estate exam. As of December, I decided i want a new career and decided to try and get into Law School (Seattle Law University to be exact). The next available LSAT for me to take, realistically, is in June so i scheduled that. I also just recently purchased all three of the LSAT bibles and wanted a course to sign up for. I was thinking KAPLAN or 7sage, leaning more towards 7sage. But i was wondering do I need the 549$ package or is the 349$ good with the 3 bible books I have as well? Also do these packages offer everything i would need? PT's, books, etc...? Sorry if this message seems all over the place, im in my real estate listing class right now :) Thanks everyone for the help in advance.

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Hi all,

Curious about your thoughts on how often and under what circumstances you turn LR questions into "lawgic" diagrams. I find that in a lot of cases, even when I see conditional relationships or logical indicators, I get to the answer faster without drawing them out. Or, at least sometimes, when I do draw out the relationships, it doesn't necessarily help me answer the question and I feel like I've just wasted a bunch of precious precious time.

Appreciate your thoughts and advice!

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Hey guys so I just wanted to share some great news. Today was the first time I got a 162 on a PT and 168 on Blind Review. My initial diagnostic was a pathetic 142. I really never expected to be able to score what I am now and with the test only a few weeks away I feel more ready to conquer this test. Don't give up guys. The lessons and the blind review method are really helping me and I know they can work for you too!

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Hello, I am currently studying for the LSAT. I work full time and I manage to study three hours a day after work, Monday - Thursday and review during the weekend. I dedicate 1 hour to RC, 1 hour to LG and 1 LR. I am using the Trainer and PS LG bible. I want to hear some opinions/advice on whether dedicating 1 hour to each section would be productive in the long run.

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Alright so I am an idiot. I was waiting for some money to come through before paying for the Feb LSAT rego. Slipped my mind that Friday was the deadline and now I will taking the June it seems. This could possibly be good, I need a 170+ and since moving onto 50s PTs I have sunk back down to high 160s. Thing is, I was hitting it hard in the prep material and have finished all of it. I don't mean PTs, but I read both LG and LR bibles and a few other resources. I don't really think it would help me to read anything else at this point. So basically I have five months now with only PTs to do. To prepare and stay ready over the next few months will just taking two PTs a week be a good call? One every other day? Where do I go from here?

If it helps, I have almost gotten LG down 100%, but my LR scores dropped quite a bit in more recent tests. I keep missing some obvious detail on four or five questions every LR section. When I blind review I want to hit myself for making such a stupid mistake. Damn Shell Game answers!

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Hi all,

I just joined 7sage, with the intention of taking the June 2015 LSAT. I've done a bit of prep with the Powerscore bibles over the last couple of months, but haven't felt particularly satisfied or inspired. So I was happy to join 7sage, when I discovered it recently; I really liked its animated approach and the structured study schedule it offered. My question is for anyone with experience of using the LSAT Trainer alongside 7sage: have you found the two to be compatible? I've read great reviews for the Trainer, and am curious if it might be a good way to get additional prep while and after working through the 7sage curriculum?

Thanks!

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Should I do any LR, LG, or Rc problems untimed before BR or should I just stick to the BR process and do all the problems timed at first and then only do the circled problems untimed during BR?

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When I do ultimately go to law school I'm going to be living off of loans (hopefully somewhat of a savings acct) for living expenses as well as obviously tuition from-- loans. Hoping for a couple or a few scholarships. So I'm considering the fact that I've got under grad student loans... is that going to affect my ability to get the maximum amount in student loans I can for law school? I'm trying to get credit card debts paid off as well as build on my savings account within the next 16 months. Would it be wise to try and save as much as I can or apply some of that money towards paying off the financial aid loans I already have outstanding?

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I applied to only reach schools this year despite knowing full well that I might not get into any of them, but I didn't want to squander another year and I'm prepared to take the LSAT again in June to reapply next cycle, so I just decided to apply and see how things shake out, who knows maybe I'll get lucky and hit a waitlist or something. But since I won't know about this until well into spring, I think I should study for the LSAT again (ARGH)! Just wanted to see if anyone else was in the same boat as I am. Thanks!!

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Hi everyone,

I'm a retaker hoping to sit for the June test. I work full-time, but I'm usually able to devote around 2 hours of studying after work each day and then multiple hours (5 to 6) on both weekend days. Even just studying for the test again, I can see that after hours of studying, I'm getting a better command of the material than I had before.

The one problem that I've noticed and can't really understand how to fix is identifying why I got a problem wrong and knowing how to avoid the mistake in the future, speaking only really about Reading Comprehension and Logical Reasoning.

I'm looking for patterns (I know they're there!), but I can't seem to make sure I don't get an Inference question wrong on RC again on the next practice section, for example.

I know the strategy depends on the person, but In general, how do you go through your mistakes and what do you do to really understand what went wrong for a question? Sorry if this thread already exists, but any help would be appreciated!

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I am having a tough time wrapping my head around flaw questions. They are a total time suck for me and I usually end up getting them wrong. I've reviewed JY's material and drilled flaw questions but have only seen small improvement. Has anyone else had trouble with these?

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Hello all, I believe I understand the concept of sufficient and necessary conditions and their relationship, however, I am confused when in a flaw question the author or speaker confuses a necessary and sufficient condition and what this means and looks like. For example, in PT 64, section 3, question 11 - one of the answer choices says that the individual confuses sufficient and necessary conditions (it is the wrong answer choice). I haven't come across a question where this has been a correct answer, but I would like to understand further what this means. If anyone could give me an explanation for what this means or an example of what this would look like, I would really appreciate it!

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Hi all,

I started studying for the LSAT in December. I work full time so I do an hour or two of studying every day during the week and five+ hours each day on the weekend. I've seen my score improve a lot, but I struggle a lot when I get to the last five to six problems. On these problems, I will think I have the right answer only to find out that I missed some minor detail that lead me to choose the wrong answer.

I get so frustrated by this and discouraged. Does anyone else have the same issue? Does anyone have techniques they use for approaching the last problem and/or not getting incredibly frustrated by the difficult problems?

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So I know that JY always tells us that we don't have enough space in the Logic Games section to write big or draw out elaborate diagrams, but I'm wondering how much space are we actually provided? On the PT's, I feel as though we are provided with a lot of space. I don't draw out elaborate diagrams and such, but I feel as though I have more than enough space to draw out however many diagrams are needed. It will be my first time taking the LSAT and I just want to know what to expect. And also, what is the difficulty level of the current LSATS as opposed to the older ones? I have only the starter package and I've bought PT 73 and 74 recently. And in conjunction, I plan on using the Cambridge LSAT to drill question types, but it only uses PTs 40(?)-61. Thanks in advance!

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A couple days ago I scored a 174 on PT 64 using the LSAT proctor app. My average over the last 5 has been a 172.5. About 10 months ago my cold diagnostic was a discouraging 153. I've hit the books hard since then and have thoroughly reviewed all three powerscore bibles, the manhattan books, velocity's online course, the lsat trainer, and most recently (thank goodness) 7sage which has been an absolute savior for me on the LG section especially. I have studied for almost a full year now. I was originally going to sit for this past June, and decided I was still making improvements, so I postponed to Sept, at which point I felt I still had room to improve and postponed to Dec only to feel the same way. I am finally going to sit for the Feb exam as my room for improvement, although still possible, is at this point, marginal. Also, I'm fully aware that I will have to sit out a cycle but I think my patience will be rewarded on test day (knock on wood). My point I think is twofold:

1. You don't have to be a genius to do well on this exam, you just need average intellect with serious determination to put in the hours, and to understand HOW to study.

2. Don't rush the process, wait until you feel ready to sit for the exam. I can honestly say that at this point I feel adequately prepared to take this exam, whereas just a couple months ago (after 8 months of studying) I was not.

Good luck to everyone!

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Do you go to a library where some noise might occur? Do you stay at home with ear plugs and no one else home? Do you use mechanical pencils or wooden pencils? J.Y. said that when PTing we should simulate testing conditions as much as we possibly can. This ranges from possibly using the room we may take the test in, to using wooden #2 pencils instead of mechanical (which sucks because mechanical feels so much better in my hands).

If you're studying to retake the exam, what felt out of place on test day? Was it random noise from other people? Did they make constant noises such as erasing, ticking off answers loudly, or whisper to themselves? I'm curious, because these were my problems, and although they did not fully contribute to my poor score, I feel the noises played a part. Also, in my opinion, a good portion of the test is being able to stay focused and not get irritated/unfocused when people are doing quirky things.

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