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My copy of the Superprep II booklet just arrived, and much to my dismay, LSAC does not indicate what month and year that the C test is.

Considering that A and B are Dec 2010 and June 2011 respectively, I could take a wild guess and assume it's Feb 2012? Perhaps it's a test they used for Sabbath observers.

Anyhow, here's some info about the test if any previous takers know.

Game 1 involves eight children divided by gender who get on a roller coaster.

Game 2 involves stacking letters.

Game 3 involves a costumer designer having to put together three tricolored costumes among six colors. (sounds tough)

Game 4 involves a radio station scheduling interviews with politicians.

RC delivers - passage 2 is about Woody Allen films - Deconstructing Harry, Stardust Memories, Manhattan, Crimes and Misdemeanors, Husbands and Wives, Celebrity, and Broadway Danny Rose! Passage 4 (comparative) features the great economist Thomas Sowell (eat your heart out, Paul Krugman).

Oh, and both Passage 1 and 4 are boring: the former focuses on sheep in New Zealand while the latter features really dense astronomy.

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Preparing for modern LSATs

I have seen a lot of posts regarding a decrease in PT scores and/or an increase in difficulty with the newer PTs (70-77). Is there anything in specific that makes these tests harder? I am just starting to PT(starting in the 30s and working my way up) and wondering if there is anything I can attempt to practice while taking these older PTs in preparation for the more moderns tests.

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Febbers! We’re less than one month away! Don’t panic! Come to Group BR tonight instead!

Wednesday, Jan. 20th at 8PM ET: PT72

Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/548459389

IF YOU DON’T CLICK THIS LINK YOU WON’T BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE BR GROUP

NOTE: Great News! Starting now we’ll be using GoToMeeting for all of our BR group needs.

Be sure to click the link of the conversation you’re attending and announce in the comments that you’re planning on attending.

February Test Takers Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/5520/february-test-takers-group-br-schedule-very-tentative

Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)

BR GROUP NOTES:

  • If you want to attend these sessions, you MUST click that link.
  • Here’s an FAQ on GoToMeeting.com: http://www.gotomeeting.com/meeting/online-meeting-support
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Use your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    I'm a non-traditional student and worked FT since age 16 to support myself. Ended up getting a GED in my early 20s, going to community college, and transferring to a top 3 private university. I have been working with nonprofit legal services providers for the last 4+ years. Still, I had 5 jobs before graduating and all of them were in restaurants. I would like to include at least some of these in the resume, but not all.

    I'm just having difficulties deciding how far back I need to go for pre-graduation jobs. Do I start with the job I had when I started community college? Or should I just include all 5 of them?

    I would really appreciate some advice. Thank you!

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    BR Group!!!! PT 39!

    Talk to your heart’s content at Group BR

    Tuesday, Jan. 19th at 8PM ET: PT39

    Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/239503069

    EVERYBODY GETS A GOTOMEETING! YAY!!!

    June BR Group Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6171/june-test-takers-group-br-schedule-updated

    I’m on a sabbatical from LSAT for the next week to stave off some burn out, but you all have a good time without me.

    Please click the link and comment if you plan on participating.

    Note:

  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able on your own; then join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Win the argument with your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Hi, as I was prepping for February LSAT in Asia, I am seeing subtle twists and turns in the trend of reading comprehension passages and questions in recent 70s PTs (and small drops in points as well).

    These are some points that I felt were obvious in recent RC sections

    1. Passages are exhibiting some non-traditional structures that are hard to be classified into

    Argument A v. Argument B structure.

    (Yeah I know not all of RC passages fit into this 'scale', but I believe such structural predictability was more obvious in older PTs)

    2. Questions are getting more abstract and question stems are getting shorter.

    For example, instead of a questions stem that reads 'what can be inferred from LINEXYZ or Author's opinion from ABC', i am now seeing question stems like 'what can be inferred from the passage' or 'The author suggests which of the following?')

    I have seen a lot of posts on difficulty changes in recent PTs,

    but I have not seen many on differentiating or modifying the game plan on attacking those changes.

    Anyone with idea on changes in recent RC? Or even idea with other sections i will be glad to discuss!

    (Ah! For those who want to suggest that the difficulty feels only personal and that LSAT is the same exam as it was 20 years ago, let me politely decline your comments because TO ME there are subtle yet obvious tweaks that are present only in recent PTs. Thanks in advance:) )

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    June Test Takers! Great work last week, gang! We’re hitting the 40s this week. Also, we need to move our planned Thursday meeting (where we dabble in the more modern PT 70s) for Friday, so we don’t conflict with the webinar scheduled for then.

    Here’s the schedule this week:

    BR GROUPS

    Tuesday, Jan. 19th at 8PM ET: PT 39

    Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/239503069

    SPECIAL DAY: Friday, Jan. 22nd at 8PM ET: PT 70

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    LSATurday, Jan. 23rd at 8PM ET: PT40

    Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/239503069

    June BR Group Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6171/june-test-takers-group-br-schedule-updated

    NOTE: Great News! Starting now, we’ll be using GoToMeeting for all of our BR group needs. (It’s also why we’ve already released the link to the workshop!) More details to come!

    HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE!

    Be sure to announce in the comments which group(s) you’re planning on attending.

    Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)

    BR GROUP NOTES:

  • If you want to attend these sessions, you MUST click that link.
  • Here’s an FAQ on GoToMeeting.com: http://www.gotomeeting.com/meeting/online-meeting-support
  • Then, download the application (for your computer or mobile device).
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” Use your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Hey, everyone!

    So I took the LSAT in December and scored a 151 in spite of consistently scoring 155-160 in my PTs. I'm taking the test again in February and need some advice from those who have used the LG/RC Bibles. I'm allotting 8hrs a day every day until the test to digest these two new books and was wondering if anyone has used this material and has any advice?

    I'm worried that I won't have enough time (roughly three weeks) to get the most out of the new material. If anyone can shed some light on what they believe was most important/helpful in these books, I would really, really, really appreciate it!!!

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    Last comment tuesday, jan 19 2016

    Learning from mistakes

    I've found that I'm very stubborn when I take a PT and BR questions. But the problem is when I review the question and listen to the explanation, even if I understand my mistake, I can never seem to really change my thought pattern when I revisit the question weeks later. The explanation just doesn't seem to be sufficient enough to override my own false intuition. Even if I end up getting the question correct, I can't help but notice that it's more because I remembered the right answer than understood exactly why. I could recall the reason used to justify it as the right answer but I can't say with all honesty that it's entirely convincing or that I would be able to spot it in future questions. I think this is a product of having studied for so long for this test where I've internalized certain ways of thinking that I just can't seem to change. I wouldn't say my fundamentals are lacking because I've been through this course, and others before, many many times. Instead, I think my problem is that I'm unable to extract patterns because I get so bogged down on the individual question that I resort to the same thought pattern that leads to pick the same exact answer choice.

    Any advice on how I can actually learn from my mistake? How are people able to effectively understand a problem, abstract it, and apply it to others to improve? I think this is what's always held me down and is the key to any sort of improvement on LR.

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    Last comment tuesday, jan 19 2016

    Thank you 7Sage!

    In taking the LSAT in October and then again in December, I improved my LSAT score by 11 points. Thank you to JY and all of the 7Sage staff for producing a great program!

    Best of luck to everyone preparing for the next exam!

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    I am just starting the course and targeting the June or December LSAT.

    I have a question that may seem trite, but goes to the heart of learning. Why in the world would we be asked to take a practice test (at the beginning of the course) on concepts many of us have never studied? Do you take a logic exam on the first day of class in philosophy? Do you take a geometry "practice test" on the first day of class? I get the measuring "baseline", but shouldn't your baseline be AFTER you have taken the course material ? Your improvement from there is what matters, not from what you walk in with.

    I'm just curious as to the reasoning. It makes no sense to me but perhaps I am missing something.

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    Taking the test in a few weeks and I want to make sure I perform my best on test day. I do my best to mimic test-day conditions in terms of break/time but I usually take these tests in really quiet rooms. Yesterday I took a free proctored exam offered by Manhattan and it was also really quiet. Will it be like this on test-day or should i expect to be distracted? Also, does anyone have any other tips on how to make sure one performs his/her best on test day? TIA!

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    Terrible with mapping and circle games and would appreciate if anyone can recommend a book/site to help. 7sage doesn't really address these kinds of games. And also, does anyone have a list of all they types of miscellaneous games? Want to make sure I practice at least a few of each type. Thanks!

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    Hey Feb Peeps! We got work to do!

    Because of the special webinars this week, we’re moving our Wednesday session to Tuesday.

    Wednesday, Jan. 20th at 8PM ET: PT72

    Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/548459389

    Friday, Jan. 22nd at 8PM ET: Superprep C

    Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/548459389

    Sunday, Jan. 24th at 8PM ET: PT73

    Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/548459389

    NOTE: You can get Superprep C here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0979305063?keywords=LSAT%20Superprep&qid=1451922968&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

    and

    here: https://www.cambridgelsat.com/preptests/4-section/#official-lsat-preptest-1-june-1991

    NOTE: Great News! Starting now we’ll be using GoToMeeting for all of our BR group needs.

    Be sure to click the link of the conversation you’re attending and announce in the comments which group(s) you’re planning on attending.

    February Test Takers Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6609/february-test-takers-group-br-schedule-very-tentative

    Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)

    BR GROUP NOTES:

  • If you want to attend these sessions, you MUST click that link.
  • Here’s an FAQ on GoToMeeting.com: http://www.gotomeeting.com/meeting/online-meeting-support
  • Then, download the application (for your computer or mobile device).
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” Use your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Hi everyone. Just attended an amazing webinar by David Busis about writing law school essays. However, the questions round had to be limited to 20 minutes. There was an interesting question that we missed just at the end of the session and it was something like - "how to explain 6+ years of experience before applying to law school". Any ideas, folks? Or if David is around maybe he can guide us. Should this be an addendum rather than a PS? I'm an applicant with about 5 years total experience so I'd really like to know :). Thanks!

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    Febbers! We’re less than a month away! Come to Group BR tonight!

    Wednesday, Jan. 10th at 8PM ET: PT71

    Click here to join this conversation: https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/548459389

    IF YOU DON’T CLICK THIS LINK YOU WON’T BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE BR GROUP

    NOTE: Great News! Starting now we’ll be using GoToMeeting for all of our BR group needs.

    Be sure to click the link of the conversation you’re attending and announce in the comments that you’re planning on attending.

    February Test Takers Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6609/february-test-takers-group-br-schedule-very-tentative

    Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)

    BR GROUP NOTES:

  • If you want to attend these sessions, you MUST click that link.
  • Here’s an FAQ on GoToMeeting.com: http://www.gotomeeting.com/meeting/online-meeting-support
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” Use your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Anyone working on their personal statements (whether just starting or polishing the final), I strongly suggest reaching out to David Busis (www.davidbusis.com). He's the guy who wrote 7Sage's personal statement add-on lessons (which you also should buy). I worked with him directly to help my essay along. We brainstormed about strong topics, organization, and articulation of key ideas. TREMENDOUSLY helpful. Reasonable hourly rate, and well worth it. He's not the kind of guy to milk the clock, and the thorough advisory letters and edits he writes for you offer you insights that will allow you to make fairly drastic changes to your paper. If you're committed to differentiating your personal statement, he is your guy. Any questions about my work with him, message me directly and I'll clear it up for you.

    Good luck to all sagers.

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    Last comment sunday, jan 17 2016

    Law school prep

    I've heard so many different views on this. What are your thoughts on law school prep? Given how much time and effort we put into studying for the LSAT, it feels odd to just sit around and not try and prepare for law school itself, since it's paving the road for the rest of our careers...Also, what's the latest on the 7sage law school prep course??

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    I'm almost done with the curriculum (skipped many problems sets on purpose). I have pretty good accuracy and speed with LR. But I have trouble with LG. I can always make all the right inferences, but it takes me way too much time to complete the entire game. This is quite consistent with my first diagnostic test (75% right on LR and only 40% on LG). I want to improve my LG with the Fool Proof method before I start PTing. I bought almost all PTs. Many people on the 7Sage forum mentioned that PTs have changed quite a bit over the years. I'm wondering if I should start with PT1 or a more recent PT to specifically focus on improving my LG? Thank you guys very much!!

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    Last comment sunday, jan 17 2016

    Need 180 watch.

    I have been looking everywhere and can't seem to find any place where I can buy the 180 watch. Their website doesn't mention when they will start selling again. Is there anyone who wants to sell theirs?

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    Last comment sunday, jan 17 2016

    How to focus, focus, focus!!

    I'm taking the Feb test, the closer the date is the less focused I am when taking practice tests. Anyone out there feeling the same way? I try so hard to sit down and focus but for some reason I can't take a full test without getting bored or feeling out of focus. Any tips?

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