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What’s your criteria for owning a game? By owning as in- you won’t have to look at that game for awhile and when you come back to it in say 2 weeks or so(or I don’t know in how long really) the speed at which you can recall the inferences won’t have diminished.

Perhaps finishing it well ahead of the suggested time? (like if it’s a 5 minute game- and you finish in 3:30~ 4 mins. Or if it’s a 12 minute game, maybe finishing in 10 minutes or sooner and if it’s an 10 minute game- maybe finishing in 8 minutes.)

After repeating a game for 5 times or so, I find myself plateauing/maxing out time-wise.

Anyway, thoughts?

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Advice on Prep Moving Forward?

Hey everyone,

I'm hoping that I can get a bit of candid advice from you (especially from high-scorers).

I booked myself in to write the February LSAT. I need a 160+ in order to have a real shot at any schools.

I've been studying for about 7 months altogether. 3 months last year, then I took a break, and now I've been studying since September of this year.

My diagnostic was a 140. I've written ten preptests since September. I started at a 158 on my first preptest in september, and then went up and down between 151 (lowest) and 159 (highest). My last three tests have been a 158, 155, 158.

I am usually 3-4 raw points short of a 160. My weakest points are RC (-7 per section) and LR (-3 to -7 per section). I've also improved in LG but still not perfect.

I BR anywhere between 173 (highest) and 167 (lowest).

I'm 25 years old and really, really want to get a 160 on the Feb LSAT so that I don't have to wait until 2017 to start lawschool (my parents are also getting on my nerves to be honest).

With that said, I was thinking that my best shot at attaining a 160+ for February is to take either 1 of 2 options:

1) to keep writing preptests, and keep blind-reviewing every question and hope that I can break 160 by sometime before February 6th.

& then pick up the 7sage course if I am not hitting my target score by February (while postponing until June)

2) Pick up the 7sage course, go through it all before February (I'd likely pick up the Ultimate because I hear that it can give me more help for LR), write a preptest or two, and be at my goal score before February 6th (is this realistic? how long does the course take? I can put in 10-12 hours a day.)

What would you do?

Any advice would help.

Thanks in advance!

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A passage with 9 questions?

Hey all,

I'm currently averaging a 20 on RC (23 BR) and usually do better when I go for less passages with more time on each (3 and a half). I'm wondering if there are any passages with more than 8 questions? and what is the best strategy for picking the objective passages to hit?

Thanks

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I translated the following into lawgic:

ES and SPIL --> OS

SPIL---> OS/e

/E and SPIL

Therefore, ES--> OS

I don't understand why in the video explanation the second sentence is dismissed. What does JW mean when he mentions it is not a necessary condition? So he strikes it out along with part of the last sentence and I don't understand why he does that either.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-60-section-1-question-03/

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June Test Takers! We’ve got 6 months, so let’s make them count by getting our fundamentals down!

Here’s the schedule this week:

WORKSHOPS

Wednesday, Dec. 9th at 8PM ET: Active Reading with @c.janson35

Friday, Dec. 11th at 8PM ET: Blind Review with @nicole.hopkins

LSATurday, Dec. 12th at 8PM ET: Flaws/Assumptions with @blah170blah

NEW!!!!Saturday, Dec. 12th at 1PM ET: Necessary Assumption LR Questions with @"Quick Silver"

Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)

  • We are NOT going to use Skype for these sessions.

  • Instead, we are going to use GoToMeeting.
  • There is a space limit of 25 per session. This limitation is dictated by both GoToMeeting and the function of these workshops, which is interactivity. If we had more people on, the interaction would be scant, at best.
  • Approximately, one half hour before the the scheduled workshop will begin, a link will appear on the forums, inviting you into the workshop.
  • If you want to attend these sessions, you MUST click that link.
  • Here’s an FAQ on GoToMeeting.com: http://www.gotomeeting.com/meeting/online-meeting-support
  • Then, download the application (for your computer or mobile device).
  • Attendance will be on a “first come, first served” basis.
  • Once the workshop is full, it’s full. Nothing to be done.
  • Chances are, if you’re going to be late, there is a strong possibility you won’t make it in.
  • There will be no recordings of interactive workshops.
  • If there is demand, we will repeat interactive workshops at different times.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Tonight is our inaugural workshop, led by Sage and Tutor Corey Janson! He’s gonna help us get better at ACTIVE READING!

    Be on the lookout for the link for this conversation at 7:30 ET!

    Only 25 spots are available! First come, first served!

    Wednesday, Dec. 9th at 8PM ET: Active Reading with @c.janson35

    Click here to join this conversation:https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/618065093

    Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)

    • We are NOT going to use Skype for these sessions.

  • Instead, we are going to use GoToMeeting.
  • There is a space limit of 25 per session. This limitation is dictated by both GoToMeeting and the function of these workshops, which is interactivity. If we had more people on, the interaction would be scant, at best.
  • Approximately, one half hour before the the scheduled workshop will begin, a link will appear on the forums, inviting you into the workshop.
  • If you want to attend these sessions, you MUST click that link.
  • Here’s an FAQ on GoToMeeting.com: http://www.gotomeeting.com/meeting/online-meeting-support
  • Then, download the application (for your computer or mobile device).
  • Attendance will be on a “first come, first served” basis.
  • Once the workshop is full, it’s full. Nothing to be done.
  • Chances are, if you’re going to be late, there is a strong possibility you won’t make it in.
  • There will be no recordings of interactive workshops.
  • If there is demand, we will repeat interactive workshops at different times.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Feb Test Takers (or Taking the test tomorrow and a glutton for punishment)

    Don’t wait to hit the 70s in January! Be prepared!

    Friday, Dec 11th at 8PM ET: PT76

    Click here to join this conversation: https://join.skype.com/sdiINq0J9AwI

    Please click the link and comment if you plan on participating.

    Note:

  • For the newbies: Add me on Skype, using handle dmlevine76 and PM your email for Google Hangout.
  • For the regulars: If for some reason you're not in the group conversation[s] already, just message me on Skype.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” Keep the correct answer to yourself. Use your reasoning to win the argument.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Hey Feb Peeps! We got work to do!

    Wednesday, Dec 9th at 8PM ET: PT60

    Click here to join this conversation: https://join.skype.com/w7McAagFN3pf

    Friday, Dec. 11th at 8PM ET: PT76

    Click here to join this conversation: https://join.skype.com/sdiINq0J9AwI

    LSATurday, Dec 12th at 8PM ET: PT61

    Click here to join this conversation: https://join.skype.com/C8Yeac0csm8G

    Be sure to click the link of the conversation you’re attending and announce in the comments which group(s) you’re planning on attending.

    Note:

  • For the newbies: Add me on Skype, using handle dmlevine76, click the link of the conversation you’re attending and PM your email for Google Hangout.
  • For the regulars: If for some reason you're not in the group conversation[s] already, just message me on Skype.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” In other words, if you know the answer, keep it to yourself. Use your reasoning to win the argument.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    Wednesday’s workshop with Corey was a great success. Now Nicole is going to show us how to get the most out of our blind review process, so that we don’t feel we’re going about the process blind.

    Be on the lookout for the link for this conversation at 7:30 pm ET!

    Only 25 spots are available! First come, first served!

    Friday, Dec. 11th at 8PM ET: Blind Review with @nicole.hopkins

    Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)

    • We are NOT going to use Skype for these sessions.

  • Instead, we are going to use GoToMeeting.
  • There is a space limit of 25 per session. This limitation is dictated by both GoToMeeting and the function of these workshops, which is interactivity. If we had more people on, the interaction would be scant, at best.
  • Approximately, one half hour before the the scheduled workshop will begin, a link will appear on the forums, inviting you into the workshop.
  • If you want to attend these sessions, you MUST click that link.
  • Here’s an FAQ on GoToMeeting.com: http://www.gotomeeting.com/meeting/online-meeting-support
  • Then, download the application (for your computer or mobile device).
  • Attendance will be on a “first come, first served” basis.
  • Once the workshop is full, it’s full. Nothing to be done.
  • Chances are, if you’re going to be late, there is a strong possibility you won’t make it in.
  • There will be no recordings of interactive workshops.
  • If there is demand, we will repeat interactive workshops at different times.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    I wrote the LSAT today and definitely did not score anywhere close to where I had been scoring on my preptests...so it looks like I will be re-writing sometime in 2016 (probably June). I only self-studied for 1 month for my LSAT today so I was thinking of taking a 7Sage course in preparation of my next test. Any recommendations on which 7Sage course to sign up for and how much time I should give myself to properly prepare for the next time? I was scoring 169 - 171 during my self study but I will be amazed if I cracked 160 today on the real thing.

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    So LG3 rocked me, and I don't feel good about LG4 either. Usually my LG is near perfect. I'm talking -2 for an oversight and a rule substitution question. However, I think I did very well on RC, which I usually bomb on. LR neutral.

    Benefits and drawbacks of a Feb retake? NEED a 160 for all of the schools I care to attend, and even if there is a healthy curve, I'm not sure I'll score in that range.

    Anyone else in a similar boat? Need to vent? Need to retake? Not sure if I should be planning on waiting two more months before I can send apps. Might really hurt me. SO LOST.

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    UPDATE: There is a schedule change. Saturday’s Flaw/Assumption workshop (12/12) will be repscheduled. We have something in the works. When we have more definite details, we’ll let you know.

    NOTE: If there is a workshop tomorrow, there will be a time change. It will now be at 1:00 EST instead of 8:00 EST.

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    Last comment friday, dec 11 2015

    Percent of Answer choices

    You know the Lsat Grader tells you the respective percent of people who chose their answer from A to E, is this reflective of answers chosen by the actual test takers or just sage students? Thank you in advance!

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    Last comment friday, dec 11 2015

    Tracking Help.

    I have been looking (in the discussions) for links to excel documents that other 7sagers might have made during their course of LSAT prep but haven't found any yet. Can anyone please share the excel sheets (or any other kind) that you made to track your study progress, each section progress, questions to be done, analysis of issues, foolproof method, PT analysis...hope you get the gist. It would save a lot of time. Plus it would help to see if there is something missing from my list. Thank you.

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    I still don't understand why answer choice E is wrong. My understanding is, iIf stress is a symptom of a weakened immune system, then wouldn't that mean that symptoms such as stress then lead to or cause the weakened immune system?

    stress as a symptom---> weakened immune system

    I don't understand how and why Jon explained it that a weakened immune system is the sufficient and stress is the necessary? And that the causal relationship is flipped.

    http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-60-section-1-question-07/

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    I need help with this question

    Admin note: Please review the forum rules.

    @"J.Y. Ping"

    said:

    3. Do not post LSAT questions, any copyrighted content, or links to content that infringe on copyright. Not a good way to take the first few steps down a long road that is your legal career.

    I crossed off E because it was making a recommendation while the conclusion says "Nonetheless, federal expenditures for nationwide soil conservation programs have remained at ridiculously low levels" which is just saying their spending is low. So with main conclusions the answer can be something it implies as well because I thought it had to paraphrase the conclusion. I choose D stupidly after which simply restates the premise.

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    When I do the SA quizzes, I do exceptionally well. Actually, I have gotten all of the problems correct. However, when it comes to actually doing the SA problems on the test, I have a hard time transcribing the majority of the SA problems.

    Can someone please give me advice on how to overcome this.

    Very frustrated!!!

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    I took the LSAT back in Feb. and I got a 138. Yea that score isn't getting me to any law school. So I just took the Dec one after I took a prep course. I am applying to 24+ schools and I already have majority of the applications finished. I am just waiting for the score now. I heard you can submit your app. before you get score...? But how do I do that without them saying "oh we're going to take the feb score?" Or should I just wait til I get my score?

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    Last comment thursday, dec 10 2015

    Sufficient Assumption

    When I do the SA quizzes, I do exceptionally well. Actually, I have gotten all of the problems correct. However, when it comes to actually doing the SA problems on the test, I have a hard time transcribing the majority of the SA problems.

    Can someone please give me advice on how to overcome this.

    Very frustrated!!!

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    Last comment thursday, dec 10 2015

    LG progress

    Hey,

    Just getting into LG curriculum and wondering if everyone else started off extremely slow too? I find that I'm spending way too much time on certain questions with the obvious intention of improving my speed as I go along.

    Does everyone start off this way? It's kind of discouraging, but the bright side is that I AM understanding what I'm learning, and with the additional time, I seem to come up with the right answer about 90-95% of the time. By the way, not talking about a whole lot of time - just a couple extra minutes per game than what would be expected on test day.

    Thanks for the advice!

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    Last comment thursday, dec 10 2015

    Oct vs. Dec 2015 Test

    Just sat to write the Dec. I did a look back at october LR's section to compare. In October, only 1 argument part-role question and 0 main point questions. December several of both. Anyone else notice that?

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    "Without strength or endurance, the fight is all but lost."

    This is #5 on the quiz on complex conditional translations to lawgic.

    We are to translate this into lawgic and write the contrapositive.

    So I figured for statements containing “unless, without, until” we are to negate sufficient and leave the necessary alone.

    Following that formula- I got

    ~L—> S or E (if the fight was not lost, there was either strength or endurance)

    ~S and ~E—> L (if there was neither strength nor endurance, the fight was lost)

    But according to the answer, the correct translations are as follows,

    ~S or ~E—> L ~S—> L ~E—> L

    ~L—> S and E

    The “or”s and “and”s are switched. What did I miss in translating this?

    I understand the logic of A or B —> C

    That is, either A or B will get you C, and clearly that’s what’s applied in the correct translation it seems.

    Does the formula (the one pertaining to unless,without, until) not apply in this situation?

    If so, why does it not? Does “without” have a different meaning here?

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