Hey Everyone,

Got this question right when I did this initially, but having a tough time ruling out answer (D). I know at first glance it seems out of scope, but here's my reasoning why (D) could be right. If all scientific investigators don't receive any grants for which they apply, then they face no restrictions (ignoring anything that doesn't directly bear on the funded research), and therefore serendipity can still play a role. I know (D) sounds far-retched, but why can't it be a NA?

I know I've gone wrong somewhere in my thinking and I'd appreciate if anyone can help me out. Thanks!

Everyone,

I've practiced every part of the test but the one section that fails to improve is RC. As a result, it prevents me frm getting the scores I want. I've tried annotating, using the memorization method, doing 3 sections for accuracy, but nothing seems to help it improve. I'm currently seeing 14-17 correct in that section. Pretty far off from the rest of my test. Does anyone have any suggestions or did they start doing something that just made it click for them? I've also been working through the Manhattan RC book but I'm not seeing any improvements as a result. I'm willing to put any amount of effort or time in to achieve it.

Thank you.

Hello! I thought I would ask the 7sage community for some advice regarding my recent PT performance.

I had previously been PTing consistently in the high 160s to low 170s, but recently my last three PTs have been 166, 168, and 164. Am I taking too many PTs? I was wondering what course of action I should take:

A: Continue to take practice tests and drill like mad to take the June test

B: Do only light studying and take the June test

C: Pay to push my test date to October

Thanks so much for your input! If there's anything you can suggest that I didn't think of, please let me know.

How did/do you guys determine where you will apply for law schools? This is mainly a question of curiosity.

Hello, my fellow 7sagers! These days I have been working on my lg bundle and realized that it takes much more time than I expected! I initially thought that it would take about 2-3 weeks to finish it according to the previous study schedule suggested by this site. But now I feel like it would take much more than that to finish the lg bundle if I properly follow the fool-proof method suggested by JYP :((

Is this normal or should I worry? I would really appreciate it if you guys share your lg bundle stories with me!

Thanks in advance :))

Hey guys. During timed prep tests, I take a long time to answer Parallel Reasoning and Parallel Flaw questions and I only get them right 20% - 40% of the time. Even with this issue, I score pretty consistently in the low 160's. I am considering skipping these questions altogether by guessing after a 30 second preliminary P.O.E. for questions of these sorts. Actually trying hasn't worked much better for me from a percentage standpoint and I think it would probably save me 3-4 minutes over the course of each LR section. Any recommendations? Does anyone else skip problems under timed conditions?

Hey guys. During timed prep tests, I take a long time to answer PR and PF questions and I only get them right 20% - 40% of the time. Even with this issue, I score pretty consistently in the low 160's. I am considering skipping these questions altogether by guessing after a 30 second preliminary P.O.E. for questions of these sorts. Actually trying hasn't worked much better for me from a percentage standpoint and I think it would probably save me 3-4 minutes over the course of each LR section. Any recommendations?

Hi Everyone

In the beginning of doing prep test, my highest actual score is 152 with highest blind review score 162 after 7 prep tests. I figured something went wrong and I stopped doing prep-test and focused on drilling cambridge RC, LR section. I just restarted prep test this week. I got 155 in prep test 47 with BR score 167, and I got another 155 with BR score 173 in prep test 64. Does the difference between BR score and actual score signify how much I can improve?

Another thing is when I do LR sections, I always have second thoughts. Something like "oh man, why do I get stuck even before question 10, this should be easy" and I vacillate between 2 or 3 answer choices a lot, which wasted me lots of time. When I BR these questions, I usually found I chose right answer or I got it after several thoughts. It happened to me in the RC as well since I want to get all of questions right in the first passage which is supposed to be easier than other passages. I normally get above 20+ questions right in LG. Did what I said ever occur to you guys? How did you guys overcome this barrier? Thank you so much 7sagers!

Hello friends.

Tonight at 7pm EST we will congregate over Skype for Blind Review of PT64.

1) Take PT 64 under timed conditions

2) Blind review as you are able

3) Join us at 7pm EST for fun and (logic) games

PM me if you would like to join; include your Skype handle.

Hi All,

What's the general consensus on PTing up until test date? 2-5 PTs a week? 1 PT per week?

Hello all,

I tried to post a photo of my idea to save copies, but failed! This really helped me keep track of my progress for the Fool proof method and has been working really well. New games have become a lot easier. Anyways, here's my layout:

Ex. On a full LG section, I drew a chart under each game as follows:

# Date # of Mins. Out of ( )

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

9

10

On the last game I expanded my chart:

# Date # of Mins. Out of ( ) Total time (35) Total Out of ( )

1

2

3

4

5

6

7

8

9

10

I then cut scratch paper in half to use as my space for game boards and to place my answers on. If you want to go to great lengths, you can write out answer choices on the scratch sheet, so you can track what you eliminated without writing on the master copy. If someone posted this idea already, oh well! Enjoy

I've yet to take the 70-74 exams. Instead of squeezing in all five, I want to take and thoroughly BR 2-3 in the last week.

Does anyone know if any of these more recent exams have particularly difficult games or reading comp passages? I'm inclined to think that they're generally comparable in difficulty, but I'd rather focus on any 70-74 PTs that have very difficult or unusual games/reading passages.

Thanks!

Hey guys,

So I have bought the 7sage's lsat starter, and I am wondering how do you study as you follow the program? Do you drill specific question types while studying? or do you just continue to watch the videos until the end after learning about everything, and then start drilling?

Hi!!! I have written my history before, but I'll do a general recap. Studied (mostly with Cambridge) before the December 2014 LSAT. Finally purchased 7Sage with less then three months of studying left. Studied 5-6 hours a day and worked full time. I didn't use that many PTs. I still have (I believe) 50-70s left. Which is good!

I've been through the curriculum 2x now (ultimate package). I wrote my first prep test (for this study cycle) last weekend. I wrote #36. I plan to write #50 tomorrow and prep test 1x a week (Saturdays) right until test day (either October or December).

My question is..... what do you guys do for studying between the prep tests?

What I did last week was....

Saturday - Prep Test #36

Sunday - BR the entire exam. Go through each section. For LR, I identified which questions I got wrong and what question type they were. For LG, I noted which game type gave me the most trouble. For RC, I went back and review where in the passage I could have found the right answer & which types of passages were hardest for me.

During the week....

In the AM I would write 2 times RC passages from both my weak areas (Natural Sciences and Humanities). I would then print off a LG section from the LG Bundle and do that under timed conditions. I made sure to BR the RC passage. I then reviewed both and noted which were harder games/passages so I could go back and redo them.

At lunch I would go through the Cambridge packages and do questions on my weakest LR areas from the prep test (Flaw, MSS, and Parallel Flaw). Before I started prep tests, I reviewed the Cambridge packages for each question type and did #s 1-60. So Now I'm doing #60+. I blind reviewed these, wrote out the corrected reasoning for the questions I got wrong, and went over the answers the next day to reinforce the concepts.

I also read through my notes for about 10 minutes in the morning before work. Just basic notes from 7Sage about the question types, how to solve them, how to negate conditional statements, ect.

I guess I'm wondering if it's "enough". I know I still have a lot of time, and I have now been studying for about a year....... does anyone see anything I could be doing more? I also have taken up reading in my spare time so my mind is more actively engaged. Nothing crazy, just a few leisure books.

Thanks!

So, it's June 8th and I'm ready to take my exam. The school location changed at the last minute and I seem to be in an industrial building. As confused as I am as to why the location was changed, I'm still just trying to stay focused and remind myself of the different strategies I intend to use to attack the LSAT. I walk into the room and it's different than any other classroom I've experienced. There are no windows, the walls seem to be made out of dark metal sheets, and the lighting is very dull. Our seats are arranged in a square like fashion. If I look in front of me I can see someone directly facing me and there are people immediately to my right and my left. I'm worried because this just feels unnatural and depressing. As I look up I see the proctor walking in, and it's the TA from "Writing I" during my freshman year of college. This confuses me. He was also heavy smoker, and I am reminded of this as he proceeds to fill the room with a dull smog of cigarette smoke. Suddenly J.Y.'s voice pops into my head, he says "you can do this, remember all of your training, and the countless hours you watched videos of Jon and I explaining simple answers you got wrong." The proctor administers the test and shortly after I begin.

I open to the first section and it's LR. "This is awesome", I think to myself. "LR and LG are the sections where I've produced the best results and intellectual advancement, just like J.Y. said I would." However, by the time I get to #14 time has been called and I've missed answering half the questions. I'm going crazy. I think to myself "Is this the experimental? Should I cancel my score? Should I continue?" The next section is LG, attempting to shrug off the crappy feeling the previous section bestowed upon me, I move forward. Time is called again, and once again I only finished halfway though. This makes no sense to me. My 180 watch has 15 minutes left on it. Somehow everyone else in the room comfortably finishes except for me? "Is this a joke?" I think to myself. At this point, I go through all of the mathematical possibilities for me to at least hit a 155 (assuming one of the sections was experimental.) I eventually move on to the third section and it's RC. This is my worst section, yet I finished it on time with 5 minutes left to spare. It's weird, he didn't call time early and I finished RC early?? "I must be dreaming" I thought to myself. It's time for our break, but, it's 45 minutes long. "This must be why he cut the first two sections so short, he wanted to add 30 minutes to the break so he could smoke half a pack."

During my break I go home and contemplate suicide. The stress is eating at me horribly, thoughts of 1L at a crappy school are haunting me, and I feel like all I've studied/worked for was for nothing. I started to cry and feel ashamed to look into my family's eyes, my girlfriend's eyes, and all I could think of was being an outlier of the 7Sage curriculum. 7Sage has produced so many high scoring awesome individuals, but I couldn't live up to that standard. I get ready to go back to my testing location and try to at least finish the exam with some dignity.

As soon as I get there the test had already started. I WAS 15 MINUTES LATE! well, I really wasn't, but the proctor decided to cut the break by 15 minutes. I rush to my exam and it's another RC section. I only answered 10 question before time was called, and it was horrible. I felt tense, I felt everyone's glaring eyes staring into my soul through the smog, and I started to laugh hysterically. I looked at my test booklet, and it was infinite. I was stuck in a room with an LSAT test that never ended. As I was laughing J.Y. appears and clears the smog away. I then looked at my test booklet and it was brand new with 5 sections. As I look up I noticed I was in a new testing room. J.Y. is the proctor and everyone's usernames I could remember from 7Sage hovered over blank faces. I started my exam and as soon as I turned to the first page I woke up.

I took a well known in person course for my June LSAT prep and it appears that from my original practice testing scores, I have had a serious regression on all of the categories. Is this common? It just seems like with all that I knew (didn't know) has been trashed and I'm more confused now than when I started. I'm feeling bummed out.

I've been studying for the LSAT since January; however, I had been using Powerscore for three months. Although I'm sure some might have benefitted from this prep, I didn't as much as I wanted to. It wasn't until late April that I started using Manhattan and have seen a great improvement!! I was supposed to take the June 2015 LSAT, but I'm almost certain I'll withdraw. I am just now improving and not near my target score yet (I am aiming for a minimum 160, and I'm now on the low 150s). Additionally, I'm only half way through the Manhattan course (it is very exhaustive), and I'm extremely confident I'll be closer to my target score by the end of the course.

I want to go into the exam feeling as prepared as I can. My friend who used 7sage along other prep courses (and also got a 172 and will be attending Stanford in the fall) recommended 7sage to me. I feel confident with most basic lessons pertaining the LSAT. With all of this being said, where should I start with 7sage?

Additionally, my main two challenges concern endurance and timing. On practice tests, the first two sections, I do decent (not yet where I want but VERY close). It's the last three sections that my brain starts to literally shut down. Does this happen to anyone else? What are your recommendations? I haven't taken as many practice tests (around 6-7), so it might be a thing I might just have to get used to. Timing used to be a bigger factor, but I'm getting better at it. I am still rushing on the last 5 questions on most sections though. Any advice for this as well? I KNOW these two things (especially endurance) are preventing me from reaching my minimum target score. All and any advice and positive vibes would be extremely appreciated.

I've been cursed by your wizardry, @"J.Y. Ping".

Walking around with my attorney friend yesterday discussing a trial (I'm also her legal assistant), the curse began to take effect:

Words like "unless," "until," "the only," "without": they triggered a response in my mind that went like this: "Negate, make sufficient ... Unless he provides X, we have grounds for Y." This was the case for all logical indicators uttered in conversation. This has continued to be the case today. This is both uncanny (lit. "unheimlich") and amazing.

Anyone else have experience with this ... I'm alarmed to see what was previously such a foreign concept to me suddenly appear as being ingrained as automatic behavior. This is both thrilling and disturbing (but in a way I really like).

Will some of you please share what your diagnostic test score was and what you are hitting now after taking the 7sage course? Thanks!

I am just getting to the logic games part of the course with 7sage. However I did already complete the Logic Games Bible from Powerscore. I was wondering other people's thoughts on which service has the best (defined in whichever way you want.. quickest.. clearest.. etc) logic games diagramming method. Do you guys pick one or the other? Do you use a hybrid of the two depending on each game? Do you find yourself getting confused between the two? I'd be interested to hear different perspectives on this.

So I have just begun studying with this program the last couple weeks. Originally, my goal was to take the LSAT this upcoming October, but after the first few lessons, I am worried that I will not have enough time for it. I thought about pushing the date I take it back, but I have also read that the sooner you apply to law schools, the better chance you have getting in and receiving financial aid. So I am torn between giving myself more time for prep and taking it sooner so I can get my application in sooner.

Any advice?

I called CSU to know the testcenter's conditions, but no one there knows where LSAT takes place.

Anyone take LSAT at CSU Hayward? If so, which building or room you took at and who proctors the test?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-39-section-2-question-12/

hello, I just want to make sure weather my reasoning was right.

It was infer question type.

summing the stimulus, it says A-> wrong.

but in the right answer choice, it says A is not right.

clearly, in my opinion, not right is not equal to wrong.

It is okay to say not right for wrong in 'infer' question type? or it is neglected because other four choices are utterly wrong.

I want to type the whole stimulus, but I'm not sure it is okay to put up an actual question here..

please help me,, many thanks!!

So I'm signed up for the June 2015 test and this is my second time taking the test. I took the Oct 2013 and scored in the low 150s which was heartbreaking considering my diagnostic was a 157. I've been studying for about 9 months, took the 7sage course and have done 20 PTs under test conditions. My last five scores are as follows: PT 65--- 163, PT 66-- 169, PT 71-- 165, PT 72-- 165, PT 73-- 168. My goal score is a 167-169 so I think I'm scoring where I want to be. The problem is I have anxiety and my confidence really took a hit the first time I took the test. Anyone have some advice on how to get through these next two weeks both mentally and study-wise? I feel like I'm ready and will do better on this test but at the same time I have this creeping fear that somehow I'll freak out and mess it up again. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Hi all, there are a lot of lessons on 7sage and I was hoping if you guys could share which ones you found the most helpful.