I previously dismissed the idea of chaining that JY advocates in the In/Out course videos, but I'm beginning to think it may be more effective.

Thoughts?

I'm wondering if Mr. Ping has any good pointers on how to ration the space on the page, especially when dealing with questions that may require copying down the game board several times to test the options. Usually I'd just write down the game board once and then write lightly enough when filling it out with the different sets of elements, so that the markings can be erased easily with one single stroke of the eraser before I need to fill in the other set.

... You're stressed. I know it, you know it, we ALL know it. But that's okay, because you're going to do great!!

Take a few minutes to breathe, relax, have a cup of coffee.. (Or a soda/water, if you don't drink that stuff.)

Sit back, relax! ..and enjoy some cute/funny cats.

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Sufficient Assumption questions are the only type of logical reasoning questions that still give me trouble after constant studying. I can't seem to comprehend the concept enough to depict the correct answer. Please give me helpful tips or a way to better understand them. The LSAT is this upcoming weekend and I'm a little upset that I've still not grasped the full concept.

Guys! How can I best drill to increase my sections in these last days? I unfortunately signed up already and am thinking of taking the LSAT for the experience even if I cancel my score. Any tips?

Also do you guys think it's a good idea or does a cancelled score just look real bad?

Help!

Any tips/guidelines on what to write on your review sheet?

Hi All

I'm wondering if it's best to start with later answer choices on some of the harder LG questions (rule suspension, 5 IF). Obviously these are time sinks intended by the test makers - especially because if you don't notice any special restrictions you need to try all choices... so it seems like they purposely make the answer choice later ones (E,D..) So is it in our interest to start with later answer choices if we need to test through them?

Hi, just joined 7Sage and had a quick question that I thought I would try to clear up before the LSAT on Saturday! (:/ pretty nervous).

I've been studying on my own for a while and have made pretty good progress in terms of where I am now and where I started. Everything that I've read, whether here, a Kaplan source, or other test prep materials suggest that you find the conclusion first for the LR questions. Now I've digested this and if you hand me a question I can point out the conclusion and premise(s) without any problem usually. What I'm curious about is, for those that are scoring really well on the LR sections (like let's say no more that -3/4 per section) or finish them with a lot of spare time, or both if you're an LR beast, do you actually go into the question, having read the question stem, and just first look for the conclusion and circle, underline, mental note whatever, and THEN read the rest?

What I've been doing, and I've improved but I still cut it really close to time in the LR sections (and I think this is partly because of getting stuck on long time sucking questions or when I have those epic mind civil wars over two remaining answer choices), is I just read the whole stimulus and just make a note of what is background/premise and what is conclusion. I don't actively SEARCH for a conclusion indicating word, read the conclusion and then read the rest. Just read it all the way through once, and maybe sometimes I have to go back and reread a line or two once I've identified the conclusion/premise.

I know it's probably not the wisest thing to try to switch this up before Saturday. But I've been wondering if the hard practicing suggested in the beginning of learning how to tackle LR questions with drills on Conclusion and Premise identification is just for you to understand the difference in the beginning or if actually helps with speed/accuracy if you just kind of chop up the stimulus like that.

Anyways, any thoughts/advice would be great. It would be nice to reduce my missed questions in LR for Saturday, even missing 3-4 less than I am right now could realistically put me in the low 170s which would be lovely. In addition to practicing for the last days of keeping mindful of timing, not getting stuck and, for the most part, going with intuition for those answer choices you bounce back and forth between, anything to help me anchor down these sections a bit more would be amazing.

Cheers to everyone taking the test on Saturday!

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned in an earlier thread, so I apologize if I am repeating it.

Jon, would it be possible for you to use a better mic when recording future explanation videos? Maybe my speakers are just bad, because there's some feedback that makes it difficult and unpleasant to hear what you're saying. I raise the volume in an attempt to hear it better, but the feedback just gets louder and more unpleasant to listen to. Otherwise, your explanations are great. Thanks!

If you happen to be in the CLE area and would be willing to partner with me to study and help up both our scores (I currently score around 155, plus or minus 5 points), I would be absolutely thrilled. There are about 11 weeks left and I really want to buckle down.

Hey J.Y.

Is there any prep information regarding the essay portion of the exam?

If you're feeling nervous or stressed (or both) before the exam this Saturday, just sit back and listen to Beethoven's Fur Elise. It does wonders.

hello,guys! how many times have you practised before the test?

I'm in my target score range, but I don't want to overdo it....

Are two PTs too much? One on Monday and one on Wednesday?

Or should I just do one and spend the rest of the time focusing on weakness areas so I don't overdo it?

Thoughts?

Hey guys... here is an alternative source of LR explanations for free courtesy Manhattan http://www.manhattanlsat.com/forums/logical-reasoning-f4.html

After doing the Stained Glass game (PT 62, Game 2), then watching JY's explanation, I realized I made a major time-waste error when I split the game based on where I placed R....

It seemed like a good idea at the time... but I realize now that it would create 6 different boards...

Anyone have general guidelines on when to split and when not to split?

Is it worth doing simple stats to realize there would be 3x2=6 different gameboards and not worth it?

Are there other rules/guidelines anyone suggests?

Quick question. I've only taken the initial pretest. I've been through the syllabus once but that was some time ago due to various reasons. I plan on signing up for December. Should I go ahead and begin on PT? At this point they won't be timed but I think I need to start figuring out my weaknesses. I was thinking about taking the PT and referring to the lessons when necessary. Does that make much sense, or should I continue to make my way through the entire syllabus again before taking PT?

Hey there,

Is it possible to view the videos offline? Watching the videos on the subway would be a great use of my travel time.

Thanks!

Hey everyone, hope you are all hanging in there as we approach Saturday. I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions/advice about the kind of prep work to do in the last week? I know the idea is to hone in on weaknesses and review the concepts surrounding them. I was wondering if there was anything else to add to that list?

Thanks for any advice/ suggestion you can offer and I wish you all the best of luck!

Immanuel

Hey guys,

I saw a recommendation in one of threads to study up on the weirdest logic games in prep for the test on Saturday given the recent tendency to have one really weird game. Seems like a good idea to me. I have been playing "the ten hardest logic games" according to Power Score (link: http://www.powerscore.com/lsat/help/lg_10-hardest-logic-games.cfm) but thought this group might have additional suggestions on the toughest/weirdest games. Any ideas?

when I print out PTs from 7sage, my logic games are always a page, front and back, and it get's annoying to have to flip around to look at my master board and so forth... so sometimes i just practice on another piece of paper and use the PT to fill out my answer. I was wondering if the official LSATs logic games have a format of either a whole spread of 2 pages or just one page?

So with only a week left, I'm seriously beginning to contemplate deferring Saturday's exam to December as I'm still having issues with getting timing down. I was just wondering if anyone could shed some light on any possible disadvantages of waiting until then. I'm planning on applying to primarily Canadian schools.

I think that my situation here is atypical. I think I studied all wrong, and I am unsure if I am screwed because of it.

I am blessed in that from the beginning I never missed more than 4 questions on reading comprehension.

I then wasted a month of prep learning all sorts of shit pertaining to logical reasoning (using the LRB). Then, one day, I took a PT and didn't diagram anything or use any of the methods the LRB instructed me on. I received a -3 on LR total (significantly better than what I was testing before). Now I regularly test -5 to a -9 on LR total for both sections--without any sort of markings, diagrams, conditional logic, etc. I just use intuition and it serves me better.

This, unfortunately, is not the case with logic games.

The first several sections I did I went -15+. I buckled down, and in the last week I've managed to improve that to about a -7. I am hoping that in the next week I can improve that to a -4 (which is hopefully possible).

I have two concerns that I am hoping for some input on:

1: The effect of the 'oddball' game that has made an appearance on the last couple LSATs and will inevitably appear on the September test. Is there any speculation on what this game may be?

2.) I have 6 days of prep left to turn a -7 on logic games into a -4...what, in your opinion, is the best way to do this? Obviously drill-baby-drill is applicable here--and trust me I am drilling hard--but is there any specific aspect to games that I should focus on which would yield the greatest marginal benefit?

Appreciate any and all feedback.

ps

To the proprietors of this site: You're fucking heroes; I am so happy that you are doing this and not running M&A deals for Cravath in NYC instead (you'll probably end up making more money, anyways).

Hey everyone, I keep getting around a 155 (highest 157) LSAT score on practice tests. I am very nervous about writing the actually LSAT test next Saturday because I have not yet reached my goal of 160-162. Should I still write the test?

Of course you are. You're about to take an important test. It's not the most important test though. That one you will be taking in December.

Just kidding. This is likely the last LSAT you'll ever take.

I'm only trying to remind you that for something this important, there are second chances. That's not true for a lot of other important things in life, so that's something to feel good about.

For most of you, you already know what score you'll get. Take your last three recent properly administered LSAT PrepTests (e.g., 70, 71, 72) and average your score. You'll get plus or minus 3 points of that average.

There is nothing separating you from that score except the mere passing of a few day's time.

You are as prepared as you can be. You have already seen everything those crafty LSAT writers will throw at you and you've amply demonstrated your ability to respond with craftiness of your own.

Saturday will not be a new day and the September 2014 LSAT will not be a new LSAT. It will only be "LSAT PrepTest 73" which will be just like PT 72 and PT 71 and PT 70 and so on.

For Saturday, remember only this: keep moving.

You will encounter a few insanely difficult curve breaker questions. Every LSAT has them. Every student who has ever taken the LSAT before you has encountered them. You will encounter them (again) on Saturday. I am telling you this now, so you will be prepared. Skip those difficult questions. Maintain your rhythm.

Keep moving.

You got this.