3.85, 161 Sept LSAT.

On my PT, in the weeks leading up to the Sept exam, I was consistently scoring a 167-169. I am confident I can do better. (Bombed the first two and aced the last two sections. I believe it might have been nerves)

Although I plan to take the December 2014 exam, I am wondering if it is in my favor to wait until the next application cycle (class of fall 2016) or apply this cycle (class of fall 2015)?

I am looking for scholarship money, which would be feasible if I score a ~168. However, I heard the earlier you apply, the more likely you will get in (rolling admissions) and the more likely you will receive scholarship money (non need-based).

I am really dependent on scholarship money, so I want to have the best chances of earning as much as possible. Which application cycle will be the most beneficial for my situation?

Hey all. Started prep in late July for the September LSAT. Self studied by reading the powerscore books and doing PT's (found sage a week before the test). Ended up getting a 151 with -14 on games got caught with like 7 blank, clearly shows I didn't do enough full timed run throughs filling in the bubbles. Also had to guess on the second half of a RC passage which never never happened to me in training. I got almost no sleep the night before which I think could have contributed. Basically should I go at it again in December?

Just wanted to thank 7-Sage, the format, the community, everything about the site. I have been gone for a while but the principles I learned here became the foundations to my LSAT prep. I was able to score better then I ever planed on or hoped for, I didn't use any expensive courses or any special methods. I followed 7 Sage, internalized the material and practiced. I owe you a thank you as I move forward in my legal pursuits.

I am grateful to have received a 166 yesterday. I have studied mostly full time since my 138 diagnostic in March. However, my RC was still -10 on the test. Sadly this is not unusual for me. I would be willing to put in another few months of work to cut this number down and get 170. Problem is I'm starting to think there is no way of improving this section for me. Has anyone ever been stuck at this level for RC for this amount of time and have been able to improve substantially? Also adding into my problem is an extreme lack of prep tests as I burned through preptests 10-72.

I'd really like some professional advice on retaking, but not sure how to e-mail J.Y. or staff.

Has anyone ever heard them mention it or strategies related to it?

(or know how to contact them/do they respond to direct contact?)

Retaking, most likely in February as I bombed September, and really need to reassess but not sure where to start.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-68-section-2-question-10/

My interpretation of the stimulus is that people who are allergic to cats react to certain proteins within the cat's skin and saliva though which particular proteins vary between people. Every cat is capable of causing some sort of allergic reaction in someone though a particular cat may cause a reaction in some but not others. I disliked all of the answers and ended up choosing (B) because it was the one I found the hardest to refute.

Could someone explain why it's (C)? I feel that the stimulus suggests it's possible all cats secrete the same proteins and that it's the allergy sufferers that vary in which protein they react thereby directly refuting (C). It's supported by the clause "...which particular proteins are responsible, however, varies from allergy sufferer to allergy sufferer..."

I know most law schools require only two letters, one academic and one non-academic. But should I include my letter of recommendation from my employer as supplementary material? It provides some good input on my time management skills and organizational skills and I was with the employer for 3 and a half years.

Yes, my score came in this morning and I got 7 points lower than I was aiming for. Retaking it in December. Anybody have a good study plan laid out? I've already done the 7sage course and gone through about 20 PTs, so I'm thinking about focusing exclusively on more recent PTs (like the last 20) and reviewing/trying to find my weakest points. Does anyone have good advice/pointers? Unfortunately, I had to take the LSAT outside of the US, so my results are undisclosed and I can't go over my mistakes on the actual test :/

I took the June 2014 Lsat for the first time I did horrible. I am applying to law school this semester for the Fall of 2015. I made a 140 on the June 14 LSAT, but I am taking it again in February 2015.

But my two questions are:

1) Is there any way i could see a significant jump in my score (at least 160 or higher)?

2) Is it still okay to apply and send my February Lsat scores in or am I pushing it for admissions to accept me?

Thanks for all the comments in advance!

Hi guys!

I thought I'd start a thread in anticipation of tomorrow, when scores will likely be released, for us to vent on/celebrate/maybe cry?

For real though, I NEED MY SCORE.

As mentioned above, I just got my LSAT score. I scored a 168, which I believe is a perfectly good score. The thing is that I scored -8 in logic games, and I think I could do better. I'm also almost certain that I could repeat my performance in the other sections.

Is it unreasonable to retake given that I want to apply for fall 2015? Would a potential (and not guaranteed) 2-4 point improvement be worth submitting an application 3 months later than I would otherwise?

My GPA is just below a 3.5, and I'm trying to get into a lower-ranked T14/15 school.

Any wisdom would be appreciated.

Email joshbaum2@hotmail.com if you're interested :)

Sorry i just need to ask this. Is it real or is it a state of mind?

I'd appreciate some input on this

I fucked up my score on the last two games. Everything else went more or less according to plan. I really feel that I know what I'm doing and deserve to get closer to PT score (165ish). The score I got today, high 150's, is probably good enough to get me into the state school in our area that I really want to go to. I doubt I would get any scholarships with my current score, however, and that is definitely not good. What do you think? The school policy is that they take the highest lsat score into consideration. How do you guys think a third one would look? Worth it?

How should study for december? I have exhausted all prep tests...and used mostly all of the prep questions to my disposal. My weakness is still primarily reading comprehension. How should I go about studying for december? Its my last chance....dont want to do worse than i just found I did...(162)

is anybody else experiencing low resolution on this website? The whole screen, font everything looks blurry.

Can anyone who's taken the test (preferably recently) advise whether or not writing in the test booklet is allowed, and if so how much space is there for LR q's, LG's, and RC (to make notes during the test)? Also, as it relates to skipping questions, are we able to make a tick mark next to our answer sheet to remind ourselves thats a question we skipped? I'm assuming the answer to that one is no, but worth asking none the less. I plan on filling in a random answer even on the questions I skip since there is no penalization for guessing, but if I get extra time (doubtful but still, plan in case of any eventuality), I intend to return to my skipped questions and devote as much extra time as I have to answer them properly instead of a random guess.

That post made me start thinking.....

The highest I have gotten is 158. I'm hoping to sit somewhere in the mid 160s before the exam. I work full time, so I can't dedicate entire days to studying, but I'm going to propose a breakdown for how to go about getting such a score. Can someone look at it and tell me if they think it'll be effective?

Yesterday I wrote a practice test, and only got a 151. Which was disheartening. However, I realized that all the LG questions were from my weakest set - In/Out. And I really struggled with the Reading Comprehension, so those are two areas I need to focus on improving.

Saturday

- Prep Test

- Review Logical Reasoning both sections (BR)

- Review Logic Games Section (BR)

- Identify Problem Areas/Areas needing work

- Review

Sunday

- Review Reading Comprehension (BR)

- LG practice

- 1-2 Reading Comprehension practice

- Work on LR problem areas

During the week I ride the LRT to work, which is about 30 minutes of time a day. During this ride, I like to pull out Art History/ Scientific America Articles and read/make notes on them/ decipher the main point in the paragraphs and such, while working on retaining the passage. I do this daily.

Monday

- Review LR from the Prep Test

- LG Practice

- 2 RC Practice

- Review problem areas with LR

- Read Information (I have a print out of all the lessons that I review)

Tuesday/ Thursday

- Repeat of Saturday

Wednesday/Friday

- Repeat of Sunday

This will allow me to do.... 3 prep tests a week. An additional 6-8 Reading Comprehension practices, with memory method, get some additional "hard" reading in, and work on LG.

Does this seem effective? I am trying not to let the 151 bother me too much, but it's hard not to! I really want to target my problem areas.

It has recently come to my attention that a visit to a psychiatrist may be necessary for me - I've been hearing J.Y. Ping's voices when doing LG sections.

"Apply the con-tra-PA-si-tive".

"What IN-fe-rences can we make?"

"Negate sufficient, fulfill necessary, the rule just goes away!"

"You have to take stock which rules are left..you can't freeze.."

When I was working on some logic games with my friends, I voiced out my thought process along the way, and they told me I sounded like J.Y. Ping (the little mannerisms). Oh I wish I was as good as him, but upon watching countless hours of his videos, Mr. Ping's voice took over me. And the more I try to get rid of it, it just keeps on coming back.

Anyone has similar experience? I'm sure I'm not alone.

If you have received a 100% (or very nearly 100%) correct in RC, then I am seeking your help!

What is your approach for 'marking' the passage? Any underlining? Boxing? Comments?

Have you developed any useful habits?

What do you believe led to your success in this section?

Background: I recently noticed that I have never received 100% in RC. I hadn't even realized I was always dropping at least 1 Q! I keep switching my approach -- sometimes marking & sometimes not.

Please let me know your (7)sage wisdom. Thank you!

Now that we are (December test takers) getting closer to the test day, I'm wondering where one should be today in terms of understanding the material/fundamentals (how to set up games, knowing LR questions types, Not losing focus on the RC), Reading the passage on time, getting through a whole section of LR or RC or Games to be scoring in mid-high 60's 7 weeks away from now and How should one's schedule look like to achieve that ?

Okay. Last week I had a major mental break down and I had to stop writing Prep Test 39... you probably remember me.... bahaha I post A LOT.

So here I go. I'm writing prep test 40.

I can do this!!!!! I won't get down on myself!!!!

:) Good luck to all you 7Sagers today with your prepping!! Positive vibes <3

Does anyone know if PT 72 and 73 will be included if we upgrade to the ultimate version of the account next month?

I want to thank everyone at 7Sage and especially JY for being here when I found you and believing in me by responding to my questions and then by teaching me an incredible amount in a short time. I had been studying for a year but not able to figure out Logic Games....scores would not be higher than 154...then after a few lessons with you I improved to 163 and I just got my first 167 today. I have a feel for Logical Reasoning now, I did not think possible as well as am improving a lot on Logic Games. I'm far from done but wanted to let you guys know that you are the best and you mean the world to me...I never thought I could reach 25th percentile for my dream school and now I'm there! I'm on my way to make 170 plus a possibility and all because of you. If I get into Stanford, you will be to blame ;-) YOU all ROCK! Miriam

So after about 5 months of studying w 7sage my LG is by far my worst section. I range anywhere from 50-75%. Sequencing Games/Dual Layered Seq Games are my weakness. I work on Logic Games extensively printing the games out 10x each and perfecting them. Once i have "perfected them" i leave them alone for a few days/weeks and go back to them periodically and can still finish them pretty quickly. Yet when I am testing, its as if Ive never seen a LG in my life and i freeze or go way too slow. I don't know what to do about Games, any pointers? tips? suggestions?

Is anyone else having similar problems?