Proctors: Totally kickass! These people are freaking ON POINT. Everything is organized. Rules are all set up. Start to finish setup takes only 45 minutes or so. SO AWESOME!

Facilities: Great. Newish conference center that is not part of the college but rented out to businesses for conferences and whatnot.

What kind of room: Conference hall. Quiet, friendly, great large cushy desk chairs. Plenty of space.

How many in the room: I counted. It was only about 40 or so.

Desks: You are seated at a table, not tiny desks. You have as much room as you need. They seat you with alternating enormous cushy desk chairs, so I could literally have everything all spread out on the desk in front of me.

Left-handed accommodation: I didn't need it, but there would have been no problem for a lefty since the desk goes all the way in front of you.

Noise levels: No problem. The room has very dampened acoustics.

Parking: I didn't drive, but MCCC has plenty of parking. Shouldn't be a problem for anybody.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 45 minutes. I arrived pretty much at 9:30.

Irregularities or mishaps: None.

Other comments:

I literally sent this exact email to the head of the test center after my test:

Just wanted to thank you guys for being such awesome LSAT proctors! You guys make the test peaceful and low-stress and everything is on point!

Would you take the test here again? I did. And I should point out that I chose not to take it at the test center where I took my first of 3 tests. Instead I traveled 300 miles north to go specifically MCCC. I can't overstate how awesome this test center is!

Date[s] of Exam[s]: June and Oct 2015.

Hi guys, I took my first LSAT this past Saturday aiming to break 170, but realistically, I think I probably scored more within the low-mid 160s. My target schools are Berkeley, UCLA, and NYU. I'm planning to retake the LSAT in December and I'm hoping to get in my application by the end of October. My question is whether it's better to apply with a cancelled LSAT score or whether it's better to apply with a low LSAT score (as compared to the medians at those three schools). Are there any disadvantages of applying with a low LSAT score? Will they not consider my application because of the low score? My GPA is 3.7 and I'm an international student (Canada), if that information is relevant. Thank you in advance for your help!

does anyone know how to highlight on the law hub interface? I see the highlighting functions in the top right corner but for some reason when I hold and drag it doesn't highlight. Maybe its just my laptop or maybe im doing it wrong. For those of you who can get it to highlight, are you just holding and dragging?

Thanks in advance!

Hey everyone I just started studying for the LSAT I'm not from Toronto but interning here at a law firm for the summer and looking for other people around the area who are also gearing up to take their LSAT. Would love to create a group or find anyone who is looking for someone to study with.

So as part of my penance for letting the games hurt me in September (PT 73), I'm forcing myself to be super formal in my review as preparation for my December retake. For no particularly good reason, I started with Game 3. I'm working on the others and might post them too. For those who can't wait for JY's far superior explanations and clever quips, here ya go:

http://imgur.com/md1YLAi

I'm pretty sure this doesn't violate copyright since I'm not including the game stimulus or questions or answers. If I am, please delete. :)

Has anyone used Odyssey Logic Games Revolution for LG? Don't get me wrong, 7Sage is Golden for me!! I have ZERO complaints! I love the explanations here but from time to time I need to see things from a different point of view for better understanding. If anyone has used Odyssey is it totally different, or would I be able to merge the two methods when needed? I don't want a new method because that would be confusing. I'm just trying to see if they're comparable.

On the original site, when I didn't like my performance on a certain drill or when I'd like to drill the same drill again, I would duplicate it. But this duplicating feature doesn't seem to show up in the new site. Will it contain this

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A BR session in the hand ...

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Is worth two in the mind.

Or something like that.

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Hi everyone! I'm not sure what to do about this, so hoping maybe someone else has experienced the same issue. I haven't been able to use the search function in Lawhub for a long time, and it didn't work on my June test (didn't submit for a retake, I didn't realize I could). The highlight function also often hits the wrong words, which takes even longer to get through RC. Has anyone else has this happen, and how did you fix it?

Thank you!!

Hi, I recently took the June LSAT and got a much lower score than I had anticipated or wanted. It was my first LSAT attempt after not a lot of preparation and I am very confident that I can improve the score dramatically. I purchased score preview and can cancel the score, but I am wondering whether or not I should. The score is low enough to be well under all of my target school medians, but I'm wondering if a cancelation might look worse compared to a lower first score (150s range), or if it doesn't matter anyways.

So, I'm taking the December LSAT (my second test) and have just seen hardly any improvement on reading comprehension. I do well on the questions but hardly ever finish in time and end up guessing on most of the final passage. Any last minute tips to speed up??

Proctors:

Friendly, but it wasn't very organized so it took a very long time to get everyone sorted into classrooms

Facilities:

Fine

What kind of room:

Large Classroom

How many in the room:

20 something

Desks:

Long table with 2 or 3 people, plenty of room and comfortable chairs

Left-handed accommodation:

N/A

Noise levels:

Fairly quiet

Parking:

N/A

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

Nearly 3 hours

Irregularities or mishaps:

Nothing, besides the late delay and having to count the tests a couple of times

Would you take the test here again?

I would if I knew they'd be more efficient

Date of Exam: 10/3/2015

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I have been prep testing with the newer LSATs (66-72) for the past few weeks. I have used up 66, 71, and 72 so far. I saved the newer ones for the tail end of my prep and was excited to tackle them since I started scoring from 160-163 on prior preptests, which is my target range. Unfortunately, I have scored a 156/157 on all the newer ones.

The difference in the score can be accounted for by my LR section performance alone. On each newer exam I have lost 18 points on both LR sections combined. Where on the older ones I lost anywhere from 8 to 12 points combined.

Any thoughts on how the newer LR sections are different and what is a good last minute approach to take toward improvement?

P.S. both my speed an accuracy seem to have suffered, however, it is more my accuracy.

Reply if you would want to be interested in starting a study group for the July/June LSAT in the West Texas Area

Proctors: Pretty good overall. Stuck to time, no errors with the alarm (had my own watch so it wasn't really an issue). Friendly and gave clear instructions. Had spare pencils as well.

Facilities: Excellent. This looks like a relatively new building and was very clean. Plenty of bathrooms/water fountains.

What kind of room: Classroom lecture style, seats 100+.

How many in the room: 40ish or so.

Desks: 5 or 6 feet long desks, plenty of space. Chairs are steel case office type chairs (these are around $750 retail) with a lot of options for adjustment.

Left-handed accommodation: Not applicable since these are desks.

Noise levels: none. Room appears to have some sort of noise dampening material, no windows in the room so I assume it wasn't facing street or anything.

Parking: Unknown. Looks like there were some street level parking. I took public transit.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: 10 mins or so from advertised start time to actual start time (getting people seated, in the right place etc).

Irregularities or mishaps: none

Other comments: The room I took the test in was very bright; however it was slightly warm and I rather have it a bit colder since you can layer up.

Would you take the test here again? No -- because it is too far from where I live, nothing wrong with the place though.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: Oct 2015

I apologize in advance if this has been addressed already, but I see that the Core Curriculum content has increased in hour to 165 hrs. Is it because the course has split the practice questions in each lessons or are there new materials that I need to review?

Thanks for the advise in advance.

From my understanding, RC seems to be subjective. I'm still unsure on which approach to use as all of them give me similar results.

How do you all approach RC? Suppose you have a passage in front of you. Do you refer back to the passage? How long do you usually spend on reading the passage? Do you notate at all? What were your RC scores when you first started and what are they now?

Thanks!

Most of us are taught to make inferences for game Rules, but perhaps we should all be more on guard to make inferences when interpreting Questions….

Example:

LSAT 62 – Section 3 – Game 2:

When I hit question 11, I was already mentally exhausted so I didn’t make the key inference that JY pointed out…. that there was 1 g and 2 rs. Then it occurred to me that a lot of seemingly “local” questions state things a less than obvious way – and it’s far more effective to look for inferences IN THE QUESTION.

Again, I'm thinking we can all improve on effectiveness in LG if we also look to draw inferences in SOME questions - at least ones like in the example - they appear local but still too broad at first...

Thoughts?

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Am still studying for the December re-sit and plodding through the materials. But I want to drop in a quick line to say Thank You JY and team!! you guys are brilliant!! I wish I had bought the paid course for my June LSAT prep. Unfortunately, I had connectivity issues at my apartment and chose against buying a course purely for that reason which I sincerely regret now coz it feels like a lot of wasted effort. The powerscore bibles were my companions and were a great introduction but nowhere close to how good the 7sage curriculum is!!! not even close!!

loving the curriculum, loving the presentation, enthused by the rigour of the content and the connected community....loving it all as a whole.....feel way more confident now....i used to take the PT's and have this horrible feeling of never knowing for sure how I did....was never very sure of myself....

simple concepts like validity were left vague in the powerscore bibles leaving one craving for clarity.....

miles to go before i sleep.....but can't help feeling confident from within and more sure footed....perhaps ignorance is bliss and maybe it's because I still have a lot of material to cover....

investment in the course feels worth every penny....

love u guys and a BIG THANK U!!

When is the next one - will there be one before the July test?????

Proctors: The proctors were OK. They provided clear instruction and followed all directions. I sat in front, which was distracting because they seemed to walk in front of my desk A LOT.

Facilities: There were bathrooms near the lecture halls. The door to the lecture hall opens to the outside, like many do in Hawaii.

What kind of room: Large lecture hall, but in the business school and not new. Stadium seating, each hard plastic seat with its own small fold out desk. The stadium seating was angled at a way that made the room very tall like a movie theater. The lighting was a little low which made it straining to read. The room DID have A/C. This was a concern of mine, but the temperature was not a problem for me.

How many in the room: Over 50-75. Pretty much a full room, but at least one desk between testers.

Desks: Bad. These were the little flip desks. Your test booklet had to be folded at all times, and the answer sheet had to overlap the test booklet just to keep everything organized and on the desk. They put at least one seat between testers.

Left-handed accommodation: The desks flipped from the right side. I'm right handed, so I don't remember if they accommodated left handed testers. I do remember one tester sitting in the front at his own desk. I found this unfair since he had a lot of desk space and the rest of us had so little.

Noise levels: There was not noise dampening in the old lecture hall. It was what I expected at the time, but now that I've tested elsewhere, I know that it was higher than it should be. I tested at a law school in Seattle and I literally heard no noise from anyone but myself.

Parking: I purchased a 4 hour parking pass in the visitor lot, and went over time. They gave me a fine even though the lot was empty. I was pissed about this, but wasn't sure where else to park.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: I don't remember exactly, but perhaps an hour between check and the start of the test.

Irregularities or mishaps: No mishaps, but really crappy desks and bad lighting.

Other comments: If they hold tests at the U of H law school, I recommend going to that location instead. If I were to test while in Hawaii, I'd make sure the test center is better or I'd fly for the weekend to the west coast.

Would you take the test here again? Absolutely NOT. Taking the test at the U of H business school is not an option if you are serious about the LSAT. Bad desks, bad lighting, bad parking choices. Hopefully they have changed the location since 2014.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: June 2014

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How is answer A incorrect and E correct? First, where in the passage is E supported? I can't find it. Next, doesn't A capture not only the main point of the passage but also Goodrich's prescription in lines 40-43 and line 45? Goodrich doesn't think that common law should be looked at as a set of rules (a legal code). Also, line 45 states that common law is a text with history and tradition, and in line 46, studying common law historically is really important. How does this not capture the idea of "a relic of the history of the English people?"