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I'm currently in NYC (LES), just graduated, and determined to devote my entire summer to studying for the LSATs so I can take the upcoming September 2017 LSAT. I think it would be mutually helpful to BR with someone else!
I have a schedule set up to take every preptest between 36-80. I'm also in the September 2017 study group on Sundays at 7PM. I made my schedule to cater around that one. Please let me know if you're interested!
Hey guys, I have been studying for 4-5 months now and I started with a 136 pt score. I did see improvement with 7 sage and got my highest score to a 147. My goal is a 150-155. However, when I take pts recently my score is not really improving. it has been 145, 138, 147, 139, 140, 139 in 2-week increments. I also notice that especially in Rc i don't get to finish all the passages on time and have to guess. What is some advice or things you did to help with score improvement? I plan to take the LSAT in august, so I have 2-3 months to get 10 points +
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Anyone else feel like conditional reasoning makes their brain go foggy?
In this episode, @AlexJacobs and @BaileyLuber respond to a student who scored a 151, took time off, dropped to a 140, and now feels stuck trying to push into the 160s. They break down why that score drop is completely normal, why a 163 by April or June is absolutely doable, and how to get unstuck with conditional logic.
They talk about:
Why mindset matters more than you think
How to actually understand sufficient vs. necessary (instead of just memorizing it)
The indicator words you must know
Simple real-life examples that make conditionals finally click
How to drill smarter without overwhelming yourself
If conditional reasoning feels like alphabet soup, this episode will help you slow down, simplify it, and build it back up the right way.
The problem sets for the Most Strongly Supported Statements have been very helpful in fine tuning my skills. However, I am in dire need of help with the questions that are considered High Priority. I cannot seem to correctly figure them out.
What works best for you?
#help
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Hi,
This was a very weird author's-attitude question. Even when I look at the correct line (line 24), I still don't fully understand how the answer here is B. (I thought the answer was A because of how the author described Bentham's reform as revolutionary and then goes on to describe the flaws behind the reform). Why is B right?
Any #help would be appreciated!
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Hi, could someone please explain this question to me? I didn't understand the video.
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-32-section-1-question-16/
So I’m having some difficulty eliminating Answer choice A and wondering why my interpretation of it is incorrect.
A says: “The truth of a given description is independent of its emotional vividness.”
I interpreted this to mean, whether a description is true or false is independent of emotional vividness. I remember from both passages that the respective authors thought that telling lies increased emotional vividness, so I thought A was correct by reasoning that if something is untrue then emotional vividness increases. Shakespeare in the first passage and subjectivity in autobiography in the second illustrated this. So I reasoned that truthfulness, as interpreted as being true or false is not independent of emotional vividness, because at least of aspect of truthfulness, being false—increases emotional vividness.
Obviously, this was an incorrect interpretation. Just wondering how I could know that from reading the answer choice, and how I could ascertain the correct one.
Thanks!
Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-88-section-3-passage-2-questions/
Hello,
I am looking for notes/comprehensive summary of the logical reasoning section for each question category. I would really appreciate if you message me your notes on the course.
Thank you so much!!!
studying since may, hovering around 170-72 with blind review and 165-69 before. can comfortably finish a section in about 38-42 minutes and i am taking the september lsat.
Watsup Team! I hope everyone is doing well.
I took the LSAT 2 years ago and did not get the score I wanted. I ended up not retaking but continued on with my commercial real estate job.
Fast forward to today, I just began studying again. I have decided to take the new form of the LSAT (sans LG) in Aug of this year in order to apply to early decisions by November. I would like to pursue my dream of becoming a deal attorney here in the Mountain West.
For the next 9 months I will be solely studying LR and RC. My reasoning behind this is that 2 subjects are easier to study for than 3. Plus I was never great at LG lol. In fact, I hate LG. However, I (oddly enough) enjoy LR.
If anyone wants to start a study group to focus on the newest format of the LSAT, I am available.
Bon Chance!
I'm having problems with must be true question types!
Hi,
So Im averaging -8 on the LR section. There's a pattern to my incorrect answers though. They are all sufficient assumptions, principle, or parallel reasoning questions. They all require me to map out the argument and understand whats missing or to mirror the same map to something else.
The problem is that I don't understand how to map out reasoning. I can do simple ones but on my own, all my diagrams are confusing. HELP!
For those who want to come- Prep Test 83 BR call on Thursday evening for the first LR at 7:00 pm Eastern and also 7:00 pm Eastern on Friday for the second LR. This will be a collaborative style BR. Please take the test or sections and do your own BR first but don’t score the section. We would like to have a good discussion and hear different perspectives/ reasoning which is most effective when people don’t know the answers.
We will meet via Zoom. Here is the link: https://us02web.zoom.us/j/7769566542
Hey everyone, quick shortcut for these kinds of LG questions. First, look at each of the answer choices and see if any of them must be true. The ones that aren't are instantly wrong. Think about it--you're testing for logical equivalence. For two statements to be logically equivalent, they must be true in all circumstances. If either one of the statements isn't true all of the time, they can't constitute a logically valid premise, and they can't be used to imply the validity of other statements.
Hope this helps!
I totally forgot about the scratch paper. The thing is right after I finished it was completely silent for a minute or so, so I just closed the connection with proctor u.
Was I supposed to rip up scratch paper in front of camera? Obviously after I realized this I did throw it away and ripped it up, but hours after. Will people be penalized if not ripping it up in front of camera afterwards?
As is well know, and is often characterized humorously, adults who spend considerable hours working with small children may then speak to other adults in the same language structure and vocabulary as they used speaking with children. Therefore, co-workers who usually communicate with each other with different language structure and vocabulary will sometimes adopt the some of the other person's language structure and vocabulary.
Which of the following statement is most parallel to the above premise's INFORMAL logic:
a) When speaking to other adults, a person studying for the LSAT communicates to others in the same language structure and vocabulary as LSAT stimuli.
b) Humans who effectively communicate with each other sometimes adopt the other person's language structure and vocabulary.
c) I like turtles.
d) When being spoken to by other adults, a person studying for the LSAT is communicated to in the same language structure and vocabulary as LSAT stimuli.
e) Therefore, people who speak to other adults in the same language structure and vocabulary as they used speaking with children should receive extra mental breaks.
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Blind Review summary
a) correct answer, even though the LSAT does not test for parallel premises informal logic parallel.
b)Nope, but could be a great answer if the stimuli was for a sufficient assumption.
c)Off topic (in case you don't get the reference )
d) a trap response by reversing answer choice (a)
e) Nope, but could be a conclusion to an inference question.
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What is the deal with these? When we are done with them is it any sort of copyright to give them away?
Random post echoing other's thoughts about these last few dates of waiting for scores. I never thought I would say this but I don't know what I would be doing if it weren't for exams. I just realized that if I wasn't being forced to study pretty much all the time for these midterms, I don't think I could stand this last stretch of waiting. Sure, comparative political economy may sound boring at first glance, but it's a heck of a lot better than nervously fretting over something I can't change.
Anyways, back to studying I go (Thursday come faster).
Greetings everyone,
I just wanted to see what you guys thought f the passage I mentioned in the title. I had a very hard time understanding it. Some feedback would be great.
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-67-section-1-passage-2-passage/
I took the exam in Asia, so I believe its a non-disclosed exam. It's my first write and unfortunately, I completely lost track of time because of exam nerves (completely my fault, I know) and ending up having to guess the last page for both reading comprehension and logic games. Honestly, like a random guess, not even an educated guess. This sucks and I know that I shouldn't have let it get to me, but I would be lying to say it didn't affect my performance at all for my later sections. I feel like the material itself was not extremely difficult and quite similar to my practice tests, but I guess the whole "realness" of the testing conditions scared the living crap out of me so I messed up. I think this is definitely something I can work with, by setting up more realistic practice test taking conditions. The question is, I want some confirmation whether I should cancel or not. I would love some advice. The law schools I'm planning to apply to take my highest only, but I feel like because I bombed this one so hard I want kind of a somewhat "clean slate" for my next write. Hoping for the best.
This was pretty tricky, and I got it right, but I still don’t have a good understanding of what is technically wrong with A. How is answer choice A not directly contradicting one of P’s premises? It must not because it isn’t the right answer choice.
Video link: http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-69-section-4-question-15/
L: You philosophers say that linguists don’t understand language, but you haven’t provided evidence of that.
P: You say that “J and I are siblings” means the same thing as “I and J are siblings.” This isn’t true since the word order is different. For two things to be identical, everything must be the same.
What I am looking for: Both make pretty bad arguments (L makes an absence of evidence flaw), but we really only need to undermine P’s reasoning. P is wrong because he misses the point of what it means to “understand language.” The order of the words doesn’t matter necessarily; it’s the total meaning that matters. P assumes that “identical meaning” is influenced by the “physical” placement of the words.
Answer A: To me, this is attacking one of P’s premises directly (and that was one of the reasons I didn’t pick this one). Attacking the premise is technically an OK way to undermine an argument; the real issue is that the LSAT is very good at creating answer choices that SEEM to attack premises, but they really don’t. This one is different in my mind since it flat out contradicts the final independent clause of P's fact pattern. P defines “identical things” as “things having all of the same attributes.” If L responded, “I disagree with your definition since two things can have a few minor differences and be identical [referring to minor differences in physical structure, but identical meaning]” doesn’t this weaken the argument by directly attacking the truth of P's premise?
Answer B: I think this strengthens P’s argument since it provides another way that differences (context) matter.
Answer C: Wtf?
Answer D: This more succinctly hits the main point, and it is a much better answer choice that A. The issue is over “meaning," not the order of the words.
Answer E: More experience? So what?
Planning on taking the lsat on April 25 if anyone wants to meet up and take PT's/BR together under exam conditions and just overall kill this exam together. If anyone is interested email me at leehhl1123@gmail.com or leave a comment here (check every day or so)
I had a Skype interview today with an alum of the school, and he suggested letting the admissions office know if I’ve gotten into other programs. He added that the admissions office appreciates the transparency and will likely render a decision sooner. Is this true for most/all schools? I’m at the edge of my seat waiting to hear back from a different school, since my husband got a job offer in the same city. He doesn’t want to accept the job until I’m admitted. I have been admitted to 5 schools. Thoughts? Thanks!
I hit the 25th percentile of LSAT but am in the 75th percentile of UGPA. What would be an appropriate reach up from my 25th% LSAT to apply? Ex 155 and 3.75. How many points up should I reach for in the 25th % LSAT schools?
