It seems I consistently make 1-3 LR confidence errors per test. If any of you have had this issue, how have you fixed it? Thanks for the help :)

Greetings!

With the advent of the test being entirely digital now, is it possible for the proctor recording to be integrated with the digital tester? That way you don't have to have the app running in parallel?

Thanks!

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Hi! I'm in Charlotte NC and don't know anyone else applying so would love someone to study with. I plan on taking the test in October 2014.

Hi all! I'm planning to apply to law school this cycle and am confused about ordering my CAS transcripts on LSAC's website.

When I submitted a transcript request to the community college where I dual enrolled, it says the LSAC mailing address for transcripts (Box 2000-M, Newtown, PA) is invalid. Has anyone else submitted this address? If yes, have your transcripts been delivered?

Also - do I need to wait until my fall classes are reflected on my current university's transcript before requesting it? I know I don't need to wait until my fall grades are posted, but I'm not sure if it's okay for me to submit now without my current enrollment reflected.

Thanks!

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Hey friends, I'm going to be done the CC at the end of August, and start PTing in September for the November LSAT. How many PT's do you think I should aim to do? How many per week? Would you recommend that I supplement each test with a fifth section from an older LSAT to get a feel for how it will feel on test day?

Love to get your thoughts guys!

Anyone have any tips on how to approach these? Are they essentially just MSS questions?

I'd love to swap all three. DM me if you're interested!

Anyone wants to swap and we read each other. I want some feedback. :)

Hi all,

I was originally in the April test and am still eligible for the flex. I will be retaking the lsat and have had horror stories with test centers and I have issues with the back half of the test. Should I request the flex as i can control test spot and it is a sprint? I see the downsides as a tough curve and me studying for a curtailed test. Is it worth it? logic games is my strength at -2-5 and LR -4-6 and RC is most wild as -3-7.

Hi all --

I'm retaking, not sure when. Probably not as early as November, but I'm looking to stay sharp in the meantime. I've been through the test once and scored as high as 169 on PT's, but September LG's destroyed me.

Anyone out there? Hit me up.

Most Authoritarian Rulers passage:

Hey guys after watching Nicole Hopkins' webinar on RC Methods and Jimmy Quicksilver's webinar on RC Question Types and Tips I thought it would be helpful to start sharing our notes/annotations for each passage because each of us reads a different way and we all see different things. I want to be clear that I’m no expert by any means and this is just the way I personally annotate that is a combination of Nicole Hopkins’s “Toolbox” method and JY’s Memory Method. Also note that I’m doing RC a slightly similar way to Pacifico’s Fool Proof method in that I’m doing the passage 2x one after the other and then once again the following day. While time consuming this definitely is allowing me to read more efficiently for structure and see the similarities in each passage which I know will help me in the long run. This is part one which will just include my annotations for the passage (Most Authoritarian Rulers) and I'll post one that has analysis of the questions immediately afterwards.

I hope this helps you guys and I look forward to seeing what you guys see in each passage!

Notation Breakdown:

Who: Important Nouns

• Box it along with the quantifier

What: Term or phrase that’s defined or has relevant information afterwards

• Box with a tail

When: Date or time

• Circle it

Where: In what context

• Put brackets around it

Pivots: Switching between viewpoints

• Marked with >

• Also may help if you distinguish which opinions each are

Questions: Questions someone raised that could be answered in the passage

• Mark with a Q or a ? In the margins

Time Breakdown of reading/annotating before going to the questions

• 4:05

Paragraph 1:

I boxed with tail “Most authoritarian rulers” who undertook democratic reforms (The quantifier “most” was important because an answer choice could have said “all authoritarian rulers and would have been out of the scope of the stimulus”)

Underlined “they” for referential phrasing

I put a pivot after the “but” to show that annotate that the real reason why the author believes that many authoritarian rulers undertake democratic reform is because they see that they can’t hold onto their power unless they do so

Boxed changes and mobilizations because I anticipated that was where the passage was going from here

What is the function of this paragraph:

This paragraph is introducing the author’s main point: “Due to the various changes and mobilizations in civil society it makes it impossible for authoritarian rulers to hold onto their power indefinitely so they undertake democratic reform.”

Where do we think the passage is heading from here?

Well the first paragraph mentions “changes and mobilizations but we don’t exactly know what exactly they’re referring to so that might be an indicator of where we’re heading from here

Paragraph 2:

Immediately Box “Three types of changes” because this lets you know that more than likely the author is going to talk about what the 3 changes are.

• Also note that these “Changes” are the changes and mobilizations in civil society that we annotated earlier

Box with a tail “values and norms in the society alter over time” until the end of that sentence. I wanted to box this with a tail because I wanted to get the first type of change along with showing how it changed civil society.

• Also I put a 1 in the margin so that I could quickly see where the values were when I needed to refer back to the passage

In the next sentence I put a bracket along with “Ex” in the margins so that if it asked about that specific example I could find it

• Also I circled 1970’s and 1980’s so if they had other dates as an answer choice I could quickly eliminate it

I underlined the last sentence in the paragraph because it shows another way that the changing of values and norms in society impact an authoritarian rulers’ power

What is the purpose of this paragraph:

This paragraph gives us the first type of changes in civil society that make it impossible for rulers to hold onto their power

• A change in norms and values

How does the change in norms and values contribute?

• Reduces people’s tolerance and stimulates concentration of power thus stimulating their demands for freedom (11-13)

• As people place more value on political freedom and civil liberties they become more inclined to speak out, protest, and organize for democracy, frequently beginning with the denunciation of human rights abuses (17-22)

Do you have an example of either of these points:

• Latin America in the 1970’s, 1980’s (13-17)

Where are we going from here:

We talked about the first value that contributes to society’s no longer condoning the continuation of authoritarian rule so my anticipation would be that the next paragraph would talk about the second change

Paragraph 3:

Box alignment of economic interests in society can shift: This is the second change the author gives

Box scholar: Let’s us know who is saying this

Box with tail and brackets from privileged people to long-term interests:

• We want to box privileged people so we know who we’re talking about and you want to make sure that you read with and without the internal context of who the privileged people were

• All of this is important information because it gives us a way how the economic interests shifting could impact the regime

Box “such a large-scale shift”: This is just so you can remember what type of shift we’re talking about the shifting of changing norms and values

Bracketed and put “Ex” in the margin for the Philippines example, for the exact same reason we did the Latin America example, if we’re asked about it we can easily find it

What is the purpose of this paragraph:

This paragraph gives us the second change that can contribute to a society no longer condoning the continuation of authoritarian rule

• Economic interests in a society can shift

How do the shifting of economic interests in a society contribute to the author’s main point

• A turning point is created when privileged people in society come to the conclusion that the authoritarian regime is dispensable and that its continuation might damage their long-term interests.

• (26-31)

Is there an example of this:

• Transition to democracy in the Philippines

Paragraph 4:

Box “expanding resources, autonomy, and self-confidence of various segments of society and of newly formed organizations both formal and informal”

• This is showing the 3rd and final change that contributes to the author’s main point

Bracket the next 2 sentences and put Ex in the margins

• This gives you visually a clearer point to see two examples of this change

Box this profound development: Referential phrasing to the example above

What is the purpose of this paragraph:

This paragraph gives us the 3rd change that contributes to the shifting from authoritarian society to a democracy

• Expanding resources, autonomy, and self-confidence of various segments of society and of newly formed organizations both formal and informal

Are there any examples of this:

• Students marching in the streets demanding change

• Workers paralyze key industries

• Lawyers refuse to cooperate any longer

• Alternative sources of information pierce and shatter the veil of secrecy

Paragraph 5:

Box “authoritarian rule tends in the long run to generate all 3 types of change

• This helps us understand that we have to deal with all of these problems not just 1 or 2

Box with tail “Ironically” until the end of that sentence: Could be asked about the author’s attitude towards this situation and this gives a glimpse into their tone

Bracket the last sentence of the passage

• Gives lasting thoughts to what the author believes (If you don’t convert to a democratic society then you won’t be able to retain any of your power)

What is the purpose of this paragraph:

This paragraph brings together all of the ideas and hints at the authors tone throughout the passage along with his thoughts moving forward regarding this issue

Overall Analysis:

This passage is pretty straight forward it introduces the issue (Authoritarian rulers are unable hold on to their power indefinitely unless the switch to a democratic society), then uses the following 3 paragraphs to go into detail about each change that contributes to this issue, then the author brings everything together and leaves you with his lasting thought.

Received a 164 in July, my average for PT is a 165. Is it worth waiting for October to take again, or should I try applying in September for a reach, like Georgetown? I have heard conflicting advice so I am interested to see what all of you smart people have to say. I know it’s towards the 25th percentile of 163, but I’m hoping that my GPA from a top 30 undergrad university will help me get over that.

If anyone is in the Arlington/D.C/Alexandria area, let me know if you are looking for an accountability or study partners for the September and November LSAT's.

I was wondering what everyone's schedule looks like..is the amount of PT's a week a very subjective thing? So far I only have 3 full timed tests and one untimed test, a section and BR a day, this month, with LG drilling in between. Do you think I should squeeze in another timed PT in this month, or have 1-2 PTS a week for August and September? Not sure what everyone's take on the amount of PTS's to take is. My last few tests were 155, 158, and 161.

Hi all,

Similar to most of you, I am a bit bummed about Saturday's test. I have been studying for about a year now, and felt really prepared. I took the July test, and canceled because it was not where I want to be (164+). Before Saturday, my practice tests were falling between 164-169. I believe I did really well on LR, ok on RC, but I know that I bombed LG horribly. The chances are pretty slim that I score 164 even if I did well on those LR sections. I was already signed up for October, but I'm feeling a bit discouraged and stressed on how to study at this point. I was wondering if anyone has any recommendations on how to study for someone who has already gone through all practice tests from 30-87. Should I retake tests I've already taken? Should I use early tests for practice? I was also wondering if anyone has any recommendations for the amount of studying from now until October. Any help is really appreciated!

Thanks!

Lauren

I know that some schools automatically wave your app fee if you have a LSAC fee waiver. Will I see this reflected on my LSAC portal once my app is finished? Would I have to reach out directly to each school? Also, which T14 schools do not automatically waive the fee? Thanks in advance!

No test center in ALL of South Bay ALL YEAR is forcing me to look for a new test center. CSU East Bay Hayward is an Oct center.

Which building/room is the test held and who proctors it there?

I once took a kaplan test at CSU with tiny desks so it concerns me.

Thank you in advance for any advice!

I have a weird history with the LSAT where I took the 2018 September LSAT cold because I have old school lawyers in my family that said "you don't need to study for the LSAT. If you don't do well you're not meant for law school." So I went in thinking I could do it. Obviously, I scored poorly and was very upset. I also didn't know anything about the LSAT at the time so I didn't know that cancelling a score was an option. (I apologize if y'all are eye rolling while reading this...) I graduating in May and decided to study over the summer, getting my PTs up in the 160-165 range. I went into 2019 September LSAT knowing I would perform in that range if I did well on Logic Games. Well, like most people LG killed me in the first section and I was looking for another LG the rest of the test. I cannot gauge how I did on the other sections even though I didn't feel like I struggled on Reading Comp as much as I have on PTs this summer. I cannot remember anything about the LR sections which makes me so nervous.

I was already registered for the November LSAT so I am definitely taking that now. I am just so confused reading everybody's posts about what law schools consider with multiple LSAT scores. How would it look if I have a terrible score from last year, a cancelled score for September, then retake November and score much better?

I will absolutely be submitting an addendum regarding last year's test but I just don't know what to do. I know this score will be higher than last year, but if it isn't dramatically higher I feel like law schools will look at it and say "she only improved that much after a year of studying?" and put more weight on last year's score.

Please help!!!!!

Hi everyone,

I've just completed the MP and MSS lessons and was wondering...what do you all do when you 96% understand a lesson? I did some custom problem sets from the question bank, and was getting all right except 1 or 2 of the ones designated "hard" or "hardest" every section...do I move on to the next lesson? Do I stay here on MP and MSS? What else can I do to make sure I 100% understand this before moving on?

Thanks!

Hello everyone! I’ve been studying for about 9 months and just did my first full prep test today and scored 169. However, I let myself have a little extra time due to the fact that my ENTIRE family were in the same room as me, talking, cooking, watching stuff etc.

So my question is, other than studying in my own area which I will do starting Monday, how can I ensure to get my time down and still expect a 169?

Hello, I am interested in connecting with individuals who plan to take the LSAT in February at the University of Louisville or will be studying for the test in the Greater Louisville-Area. Contact me if you may be interested in creating a study group or would like to partner with me till the testing day February 2015

For question 17, I can't differentiate between D and E. For question 18, I got the correct answer via POE, but I don't know what "merely in a matter of degree" means in answer choice C. Can someone translate what that is talking about? Does it mean "quantitatively?" That seems like a weird definition.

Question 17 essentially wants us to support Maritain using something in Passage A. In Passage B, Maritain thinks that animal communication is a conditional reflex and not conscious intent.

Answer D: I see how this answer supports him. Calling causes females to approach and males to retreat. There is no evidence that the frogs do it in order to rely the calling frog's desire/intent to mate nor influence the other frog's behavior. This seems to suggest it is pretty reflexive.

Answer E: But, doesn't this equally support Maritain? The primates don't adjust their call depending on who is there/rely knowledge. Thus, there appears to be no goal/conscious intent either. Doesn't this also suggest that the primate coos and calls as a reflex when it sees food or predators, respectively?

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