I took the exam in Asia, so I believe its a non-disclosed exam. It's my first write and unfortunately, I completely lost track of time because of exam nerves (completely my fault, I know) and ending up having to guess the last page for both reading comprehension and logic games. Honestly, like a random guess, not even an educated guess. This sucks and I know that I shouldn't have let it get to me, but I would be lying to say it didn't affect my performance at all for my later sections. I feel like the material itself was not extremely difficult and quite similar to my practice tests, but I guess the whole "realness" of the testing conditions scared the living crap out of me so I messed up. I think this is definitely something I can work with, by setting up more realistic practice test taking conditions. The question is, I want some confirmation whether I should cancel or not. I would love some advice. The law schools I'm planning to apply to take my highest only, but I feel like because I bombed this one so hard I want kind of a somewhat "clean slate" for my next write. Hoping for the best.

This was pretty tricky, and I got it right, but I still don’t have a good understanding of what is technically wrong with A. How is answer choice A not directly contradicting one of P’s premises? It must not because it isn’t the right answer choice.

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L: You philosophers say that linguists don’t understand language, but you haven’t provided evidence of that.

P: You say that “J and I are siblings” means the same thing as “I and J are siblings.” This isn’t true since the word order is different. For two things to be identical, everything must be the same.

What I am looking for: Both make pretty bad arguments (L makes an absence of evidence flaw), but we really only need to undermine P’s reasoning. P is wrong because he misses the point of what it means to “understand language.” The order of the words doesn’t matter necessarily; it’s the total meaning that matters. P assumes that “identical meaning” is influenced by the “physical” placement of the words.

Answer A: To me, this is attacking one of P’s premises directly (and that was one of the reasons I didn’t pick this one). Attacking the premise is technically an OK way to undermine an argument; the real issue is that the LSAT is very good at creating answer choices that SEEM to attack premises, but they really don’t. This one is different in my mind since it flat out contradicts the final independent clause of P's fact pattern. P defines “identical things” as “things having all of the same attributes.” If L responded, “I disagree with your definition since two things can have a few minor differences and be identical [referring to minor differences in physical structure, but identical meaning]” doesn’t this weaken the argument by directly attacking the truth of P's premise?

Answer B: I think this strengthens P’s argument since it provides another way that differences (context) matter.

Answer C: Wtf?

Answer D: This more succinctly hits the main point, and it is a much better answer choice that A. The issue is over “meaning," not the order of the words.

Answer E: More experience? So what?

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I hit the 25th percentile of LSAT but am in the 75th percentile of UGPA. What would be an appropriate reach up from my 25th% LSAT to apply? Ex 155 and 3.75. How many points up should I reach for in the 25th % LSAT schools?

Hello hello! I'm new to 7Sage and I'm hoping someone can offer me some advice!

I've scoured the Internet looking for a good resume template and have found myself rather disappointed. I did find two that are alright, but does anyone have any suggestions as to where I could find a decent one? Or, if anyone is willing, could I take a look at yours to see how it's formatted? Just trying to figure out the best way to format my resume!

Does anyone know when the October 2019 International Score release date is? The Exam was on October 13.

I was self-doubting after the test and had to distract myself. I've read somewhere that not only the "curve" is pre-calculated based on previous experimental sections, test-takers are actually compared with others in their score band, because a question that is "very difficult (5/5)" for sub-160 test-takers might be an "average(3/5)" for 170 test-takers.

I'm making an inference on this. Under extreme circumstance, if one section is SOO difficult that only genius (1%) of the population can perform well. Then would it result in a curve that looks like this?

170: -10

160: -40

Sorry this has nothing to do with actual test, just food for thought out of curiosity.

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Can anyone help explain why the answer here is E instead of C? I understand why A,B, and D are wrong, but I just don't understand why C is wrong. I felt the main idea of the passage was that we need to reform the way we rehabilitate child criminals, which seemed to me to be a form of cooperation between criminologists and law enforcement (since creating such policy would be a form of law enforcement finally acting on the criminologists' findings).

Any #help would be appreciated!

Thanks!

During Blind Review are we allowed to look at our notes/ other materials to help us with questions or should we not look at any external resources?

Hi everyone,

I first started studying for the LSATs about a year ago, and have taken the LSAT 3 times since then. I plan on applying this year.

Nov 2018: 161

Mar 2019: 161

Jul 2019: 163

I had been consistently PTing at 165+ since May, but my digital July testing center had issues which I know affected my performance. I'm planning on taking the test one more time in November, and since I have another shot, I was hoping to tackle the 2 things that have consistently brought my score down: flaw + argument part question types.

I can tell you all 19 flaw types and I can tell you exactly what the highlighted argument part phrase/sentence is doing in an argument -- in my own words. My problem is the freaking answer options... I feel like 95% of the time I have a hard time understanding what the answer options are actually saying. Is it just me or has anyone else struggled with this? I have generally taken the strategy of skipping those questions and coming back to them, but now that I've (literally) bought myself another opportunity, I thought I'd try to master these.

If you are a tutor and think I could benefit from a session with you, please let me know! I'm open to tutoring at this point as well.

Thanks!

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Hello, I originally posted this in the comments under the question but the more I look at it I'm second guessing if my reasoning is correct. I've pasted it here with a couple alterations because I accidentally put "understand" instead of "know" in the other post. It got me to the correct answer but could someone please confirm if my reasoning is correct and if not, where I went wrong. Thank you.

59.3.19

Premises:

A := Understanding a word

B := Knowing its dictionary definition

C := Understanding the words that occur in the definition

(A →B) → (A → C)

Premises: we have an instance of people (e.g., babies) who don’t understand the words that occur in the definition.

==> C

Necessary failed, contrapose back.

==> (A →B)

which is equivalent to

A and B

In other words, it could be the case that people (e.g., babies) understand the words they’re saying even if they don’t know the word's dictionary definition.

Which matches AC (E).

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I was wondering if being an international applicant helps? I see that being URM helps a lot, but what about internationals?

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What is the frequency of the different question type distribution within LR on the recent LSATs?

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I am absolutely freaking out. I just applied to my top four schools, and I selected "No" to all of the Character & Fitness questions for each school. At my college, you received an "Academic Warning" whenever you failed a mid-term since your average in the course was now below passing. I received a couple of these warnings my freshman year, but I did well on the remaining assessments and passed the courses. Hence, I forgot all about these warnings and failed to check the appropriate box on the law school applications/provide the appropriate addenda. Has anyone seen this situation before? Would there be anyway for me to amend this mistake while my applications are still pending?

Thank you all so much!!!!!

Hi! I'm based in NYC and am looking for individuals to study with for the April LSAT. My current score is 160 and looking to reach 170 by April

Looking for a study group in the Raleigh/Cary/Durham area. I'm about an hour away and would love to meet other individuals on the LSAT journey! Currently registered for January and also studying for June.

When I went to do my digital writing sample I had my phone in my backpack, and I forgot to turn it off. I got a text during the writing sample, so the reviewers could probably hear the notification. I just kept going on the test and didn't reach into my bag or anything. I haven't heard back to see if it was accepted or not. This is probably a new issue with the separation of the writing portion from the actual test day, but is it necessary to write an addendum or anything if you get a rules violation, or will LSAC just send whichever writing sample was accepted?

Has anyone taken the May LSAT-Flex on a Surface Go tablet/ laptop. I just want to see how your experience was. I am a bit anxious as when I test my camera on the proctor U site, the camera freezes a bit. I want to know if this is normal or if I should think of using a different laptop.

Thanks in advance for your feedback.

Hello!

My name is Christo and I am wondering if there is anyone that would be willing to provide any tips on the Digital LSAT. I will be taking the test in November and am concerned about logistics for the testing day. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Christo

Hi guys,

Let's get ready for June together! I find that 7sage is great for self study, but when it comes to writing PTs I like to put myself in an environment where other people are writing, too. I find I perform better around real people and it makes PTs go down easier when you're not the only one doing it.

I was thinking of getting a little group going where we get together once a week and write a PT, BR it and then discuss answers. I'm in Oshawa but I would be happy to meet in Toronto.

(As always, don't share your personal information publicly -- just post here if you're interested and I'll get it going.)

Looking for people who are motivated and need support like I do. its hard out here!!!