Proctors: Middle of the road. Good but not great. Firm but not too strict.

Facilities: Plenty of room. Lighting could have been a little brighter. Temperature was fine. Chairs were reasonably comfy.

What kind of room: Large gathering room located in their Alumni Center which is just off campus.

How many in the room: We had about 25 but it could have easily accomodated several more.

Desks: Long skinny rectangles. Sadly, the surface was textured. Come on La Sierra.

Left-handed accommodation: Not needed with their setup.

Noise levels: Very quiet.

Parking: Plentiful and close. No sticker or permit needed.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: About half an hour.

Irregularities or mishaps: For some reason the proctor took about 3 seconds between sections 4 and 5 after she had moved at a much more normal pace on all the other change-overs. Watch reset had to happen super fast on that one.

Other comments: Bathroom facilities were decent and accomodated an appropriate number of people for the number who were taking the exam (which was NOT the case at my previous LSAT location).

Would you take the test here again? Yes

Date[s] of Exam[s]: December 5, 2016

I am guessing I am not the only one who didn't get the score they have hoped for on the June exam (which hurts terribly after over a year of studying). Passing along two things that made me feel better after my last disappointment that I will revisit again this time....

This article: https://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/if-you-didnt-get-the-lsat-school-you-dreamed-of/. After you read it, I suggest making a sticky note with "Never flinch. Be tough. Be unflappable. Be upbeat." somewhere on your workstation. I look at it every time I want to quit.

Any episode of the 7sage podcast with a " lower score - (170+ score)" in the title. Almost every single high scorer that JY has on the pod has multiple lower takes with a rollercoaster of disappointments. We are not alone in scoring below our PTs and can benefit from other people's stories.

Please drop any other motivating tips below.... August here we come!!

I'm looking for a study buddy or two in the Sacramento area. We can meet for coffee and discuss strategies :)

Hello all,

I recently took the June 2022 Test and am not pleased with my score. Compared to my other test in January I did improve but only by 3 points. 133-136. I know not the best and a bad score. But my score I need is only a 146. So I’m 10 points off.

By this fall, I’m starting a career job, and all. But I am contemplating a retake for a third test in the future.

I need advice though: should I wait and study longer? Since this last test I studied from February to Early June so almost 4 months. But this time should I take 8-12 months instead? Also, what other strategies would anyone recommend this time around? Mix of 7Sage, Books and a tutor?

Again, I think I am going to take a 2-3 week break to strategize a new plan with any advice y’all can give me and hit the ground running in August/early September

Thanks.

They did release 'new' PTs that turned out to be reused versions of the old PTs, without the LG sections. I'm planning to take lsat before August so I'm mainly looking for 'actual' new PTs after the 2020s, there must be a pretty sizeable amount they've saved up so far + these old PTs have LG sections in them which probably are going to be abandoned altogether with the new system. Does anyone think they'll be releasing them anytime soon?

These numbers are hardly moving. Granted, I have been on here for less than two months, but for some reason each time I log in and see this I feel discouraged and hopeless. Any suggestions?

ps. I plan to take July 23 test

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I've watched some of JY's video explanations of comparative rc passages, and in each one, he suggests reading the first passage, going through the questions and eliminating what doesn't fit, and then going to the second passage, then going back to the questions and selecting final answers. I see the intuition behind this strategy and have tried applying it, however I notice that I end up taking significantly longer on comparative passages than other reading comp passages, even when the content is more mild in terms of readability. So I was just wondering if other people find that this method doesn't work for them and whether they find more success reverting back to the traditional way of doing RC? I know everyone's different when it comes to rc, but I'm mainly wondering whether maybe this strategy is something more concrete like LR strategies, or if it truly is just preference. Thanks!

If any of you want to discuss whether or not you should cancel your June LSAT, you can book a free 15-minute consultation with members of our admissions team here: https://calendly.com/d/dtn-f57-4n6/should-i-cancel

🔢 I'm currently scoring: 165-172 (untimed) 155-160(timed)

📆 My planned test date: 2023 Nov.

📈 To study, I have been: finishing around 50 PTS

🔑 My goals for this group are: to help each other and, to hear other perspectives

🔍 We'll focus on: Reading Comprehension, Logic Reasoning

📚 When we'll meet and what we'll do: three days a week based on majority's availability, PT review and drills

✅ How to join: discord group(https://discord.gg/vFwxD4mw)

Please do not hesitate to leave your message.

Hi All - I start my study schedule in a few weeks for the 11/17 exam and was looking through my schedule to week 16 and it states the following: "LSAT PrepTest 58, 59, 60, 61, - 3 lessons 3 hours".

Does this mean I am should be taking 4 full LSAT exams in one week? I have read folks taking one exam every week or maybe 2, but 4? Is my reading of the schedule correct?

Hi All,

I hope everyone is having a good weekend. I started my LSAT journey with a diagnostic score of 140. I am currently scoring in the low 160s and blind reviewing at 174+. I plan to sit for the LSAT between September/October.

I am in need of a study buddy of the description below:

a) scores in the high 150s and low 160s;

b) interested in taking the LSAT in September/October;

c) aims at reaching a 170 ballpark; and

d) ready to be a committed and dedicated study buddy.

If this is you, please inbox me.

Second, I need people who are scoring in the 140s who want to raise their scores to mid 150s and low 160s. I would be sharing helpful information that has served me well in this process, especially on Logical Reasoning and Logic Games. This is all for free. It is my way of giving back to this community and also a means to solidifying the contents I have learned so far. Also, because the LSAT can be a lonely and frustrating journey, if you just want to vent, I am here for you. If you feel this is for you, please inbox me.

Whatever your score is at this time, please know that that is immaterial. You can reach any score you want in this test (regardless of your diagnostic score) if you are willing to mentally sweat for it.

Eze

I understand the explanation for the question and the diagramming that led to the answer. However, I still am confused with the first line of the stimulus: "Because of the recent transformation of the market". Using the lesson on for/since/because being followed by a premise, that was my assumption and how I attempted the problem the first time around.

None of the explanations use that first sentence at all though. They just use

/10% --> B

and

10% --> 20%

Why is the because in line 1 not used as per the for/since/because lesson?

I am wondering if anyone knows how Columbia views ED applicants, more specifically how it may impact one's chance of giving in I will applying with my 170, and a 3.93 GPA. Columbia's medians are 173 and 3.92.

Also, I am wondering if I do choose to ED-- whether I should write my essays differently/ explain why I chose to ED Columbia specifically

any engineer/math majors who found it terribly difficult to do LG on computer-based test, and were able to get into 17x on computer-based lsat official administration?

how exactly do you work on lg on paper for every answer choice?

it seems much more difficult than LG during paper-based test days, as most if not almost all answer choices need transcribing on paper to be worked on.

earlier the answer choices were already on paper, so one could just draw on their top or check them against own diagram on paper.

i find it almost impossible now.

i have taken LSAT before during its paper-based days and have a 17x score, which is now expiring, and need retake.

LG was almost perfect for me on paper in 35 min.

but i have taken PT several times on computer now and it's much worse.

Any data out there about how many people ultimately get a 90th percentile LSAT score + after multiple attempts? If I'm understanding the percentile charts correctly, approximately only 10% of folks get a score higher than a 166 in each administration. But not aware of data out there about "ultimate" scores across multiple test attempts.

Is there any available resource to compare how difficult PT-X's LG section with PT-Y's LG section as a whole?

E.g. for an average 170-scorer, how many approximate misses in PT-55 LG compared to PT-75 LG within 35 mins in strict test conditions.

This is not referring to how difficult an individual Game but only LG section as a whole.

I need help really bad guys. I read the Ellen Cassidy book on Logical Reasoning and throughout my studies I've been doing really good on Logical Reasoning. I just hit the newest Practice Tests (80s) and it seems like every answer choice I pick is wrong. I'm struggling so bad with these newer tests and their abstract language. I'm crying and so so anxious about my upcoming test because it seems like nothing is working. It seems like all my work has been for nothing. Does anyone have any advice at all on how to reset my mindset for the newer Logical Reasoning sections? I try going to Manhattan Prep and watching JY's lessons on the new answer choices but it seems like literally nothing is helping.

Anyone going to the Temple information session tomorrow morning? Curious if any other 7Sagers will be there.

Hey everyone,

I just finished my LSAT writing section. However, I realized that when it prompted me to take a picture of my id, i held it away from the camera and next to my face on accident. I believe it will be super blurry, so is this something I need to worry about? Am I overreacting?

I scored lower on my retake (168) than my first score (169)

I studied for the first take about 3-4 hours a day/5days a week for about 5 months, after a 5 month period in between

my retake was about 2-3 hours a day 4 days a week for another 4 months

My first score was my PT avg the month prior going into the test

My retake was a total underperformance, as I was PTing around 171-173 a month going in...

I retook because I was WL at my top school choices... with my 169...

I'm very disappointed because I really felt confident in my retake especially with a better familiarity of the material this time around...

my LG was 0/-1, LR 0/-4 (avg -2), RC was -3/-6 ( avg -4)

I have used all the recent PT's and the rest for sections and problem sets...

I am definitely thinking about August with the deadline approaching....

How do I approach studying as I used most of the material with no fresh PT to gauge my standing

I appreciate any input

Thank you all!

I applied to HLS/CLS/Chi a few times, but since then my score (171) has expired and I retook this Oct.

I wrote a new PS for this cycle (using partly on my previous apps' PS) that's based on my long work-ex in tech industry.

Would be interested to know the feedback from those with law school experience.

Hi everyone,

I've been studying on my own for about 5-6 months, and I am taking the June LSAT coming up. I just recently learned about 7sage and decided to subscribe in the month before my test. Obviously, I don't have nearly enough time to go through all of the material, which brings me to my question: are there are any lessons that you guys felt were the most helpful - or maybe triggered an "aha" moment in your brain - in each of LG, LR, and RC respectively?

Currently, LG is my strongest (scoring around 17-21/23) with LR and RC both behind trailing behind (19-20/25 and 20-21/27). Would welcome any advice given the one month timeline I have right now.

Thanks in advance!

Hey! Does anyone want to get on zoom and go over some RC problem sets. Do blind review together afterwards. 8pm to late

Check out JY’s explanation breaking down the passage for PT 42, Section 3, Passage 4. He shows how crucial it is to be able to visualize. It is a great passage to hit hard for review!