Hello everyone,

I'm new to 7sage, and I just wanted to reach out for some help. I took the February, scored a 153, and that was after selfstudy using the lsat trainer and a tutor. I studied roughly 4 hours day for 4 months. I felt like I did everything I could, and I felt prepared. But yet I didn't even get close to what I wanted. What does it really take to boost your score? How can I get my confidence back? I plan on taking the june LSAT, but I still feel defeated. Has anyone been in my shoes?

Thank you!

I wanted to ask for some advice on how to correct LR errors during BR (which I hope will follow me to timed tests eventually). I have mastered the art of circling questions I have trouble with in LR (The questions I miss are part of the group of questions I circled). However, during BR, despite spending a large amount of time reviewing - I am unable to get the question right. I am SURE that I have the right answer - the one that I circled during the test. So not quite the confidence error described by J.Y., but still an error in confidence.

Any advice or methods on how to correct this? My game plan is to put these questions together and drill them / write out my reasoning / watch videos / correct reasoning / drill again. But considering that I'm making these errors consistently, I would love some help.

Thanks!

I just reviewed PT62 (exam conditions) and had my worst performance to date. I've reviewed all my incorrect answers but is that enough? What else can I do to help prevent this from happening again and be sure I'm moving forwards, not backwards. I've heard the PTs in the 70s are much more challenging so I want to make sure I get this under control now! Thanks guys!

I feel like the more RC passages I do the more I'm losing my eyesight *cries out loud*

It's hard focusing on some of these passages.

Hey! Since I'll be taking the June LSAT I wanted to know if anyone else was on the same track as I in taking 2-3 PTs each week. Maybe we could make a study group and take the same PTs every week, BR, and then go over some of the questions we've found difficulty in? If so, let me know :)

As I am currently practicing previous game sets from PT 1-38, i was wondering how I should set up general spacing strategy for basic diagramming.

From what i understand (what my friends told me) it is said that one game is provided within 2 pages on the actual LSAT test, with general rules with 1~2 question on the first page and the other questions on the next page. So i was wondering...

1. Does everyone generally set up global diagram on the first page and draw out the rest of local diagrams on the next page as the questions come up? I was wondering if this strategy will be effective for the actual LSAT. (most of problems sets i have printed out are printed on one single page individually, which make me confused because they are not printed in the way they should be printed on the actual test).

2. As I was following up video explanations on 7sage, i found out Laoshi Ping's method of coming up with few templates and applying each rule on every local question. But i believe such tactics will be very difficult for local questions on the actual lsat because we will have to copy and re-draw every diagram and rule for each question. Should I keep practicing on drawing local diagrams 'faster'? or Do you process local diagrams and rules in your head while solving those local or additional problems?

Thanks in advance! As an international student studying for the LSAT I must say that resources and assistance from 7sage have been by far the most helpful!

If you have an interest in being a part of this, please message me with your current score, your target score, what you have studied so far (i.e. only 7sage? or other programs as well?,) and when would work best for you (I am thinking to do this over Skype on the weekends.)

Good luck!

Hey all,

I have been waitlisted at University of Washington and Boston College and I'm certain that my LSAT score was the reason for this. I am planning to retake in June to either get off waitlists this year or reapply next year with a better score.

Are people generally successful at gaining admission off of waitlists if they retake the June LSAT and perform better (5+ point increase)? Does anyone here ( hint hint, JY Ping & co. :D) have any suggestions for how to approach retaking the LSAT? I've used much of my study material already...

I was wondering if anyone was willing to share their experience with Manhattan Prep's materials, specifically their Reading Comprehension Strategy Guide. A little background, I have worked my way through the 7sage curriculum, the LSAT Trainer and am currently drilling using the Cambridge Packets, 1-38. All of those things have been wonderfully helpful. I am now PTing regularly and am scoring between 166-171. RC is my most variable section and I am wondering if their guide can help me with consistency. I have read elsewhere (TLS) that Manhattan Prep's materials are good for those approaching the 170's.

Also, a specific question for anyone that has used the book, which PTs are the passages pulled from? Are they newer than 38? I want to make sure that I don't "contaminate" a PT that I haven't taken fully-timed. I can't seem to find a straight answer to that question on their website, their online forum or from their customer service reps. Thanks!

Here's what JY says:

All turtles know kung fu. All turtles are named after Italian artists. Therefore, some things that know kung fu are named after Italian artists.

[Lawgic]

A –> B

A –> C

_______________

B some C

I assume that would look like:

C

C

ABC

ABC

ABC

B

B

that makes sense.

Next Part:

An often overlooked corollary to this valid form is the following:

A –> C

B –> C

_______________

/A some /B

I assume that would look like:

/A

/A

/C/A/B

/C/A/B

/B

/B

Question:

I'm having trouble thinking of this in a sentence that actually makes sense/one that might appear on the test. help please?

Quick background: I'm heading for the October test and my 7Sage schedule (I'm using the Ultimate tier) has me due to finish the core curriculum on April 13th and then drill PTs at a rate of 1 or 2 a week until the start of October.

But I've hit an issue. I'm finding the logic games very, very, very tough. For example, the schedule budgets 4 hours for the first five sequencing problem sets, but I'm needing around an hour for each game, so this 4 hours soon becomes 20 hours. I'm getting quite stressed because it's causing me to fall majorly behind on the schedule.

Here's my question...thanks for being to patient up until this point ;)

Is it imperative that I drill PTs for five and a half months, at 1/2 a week? Or, could I perhaps take an extra month on the core curriculum and then increase the frequency of PTs? I think taking an extra month on the core curriculum would really allow me to pace myself to the point of proper understanding, rather than stressing out due to the timeline and losing brain power.

I suppose I am curious how long most people spend on the PT stage. Perhaps 5.5 months is quite long, anyway, and I can easily afford the extra time.

Any wisdom shared will be met with a virtual glass of wine.

:)

Can somebody explain to me why D is correct? I can't find any explanations for this passage.

I know I am not the only one who is having this problem, but it's kind of bugging me given its persistence. So there is roughly a 10-15 point gap between my actual test score and my BR score. I was just wondering what some of you have done in order to try and close the gap as much as possible because...this kind of sucks. Thanks!

Hey Everyone,

I'm posting here to see if anybody can help me in trying to figure out the answers to two Flaw Questions that appeared in Section 3 of the 2012 LSAT India Exam. The link to the Exam is Right HERE!

http://www.pearsonvueindia.com/lsatindia/docs/IndiaFreePrepTest2013_Final_v2.pdf

The first one would be Q10 in S3. I picked A, based off the fact that I thought it encapsulated the flaw more articulately than D. I know that D is an example of a shell game answer choice, but it still is confusing. Can someone provide me with an 100% correct reason why A is correct - or is my reason adequate enough?

The second one is Q14. This one was quite tough for me ( I didn't know what the definition of morally arbitrary was, I looked it up and I believe it to be "morally unjust") Can someone explain this problem as well. I picked C off of POE because it was the only answer choice that seemed to imply the forced compromises the opposition groups forced on democratic governments were not actually "harmful" or "undemocratic", which was the assumption the argument required.

Thanks!

Hello all,

I've been thinking about trying to organize a weekly practice test group to take tests in NYPL (Bryant Park). I think it would be good to establish it as routine. I am aiming for June with the strong possibility of taking in October. I work at a top firm as a paralegal so I have unpredictable hours but my weekends are slowing down enough. Anyone interested? Seems like it would be simple enough. We could proctor ourselves using 7sage app. I think something like this would add some accountability to supplement 7sage!

Hi, all. Wondering if anyone with a less the angelic past has undergone the moral character determination and come out on top. I'm not a hardened criminal by any means, but I was a bit rough as a teen/young adult. Misdemeanor as a juvenile and one as an adult. I'm old (40 now) and have been a Marine on active duty for 17 years. This stuff is long in my past, but after doing some research it is all about to get dug up again. I've read on the CA and AZ bar pages about their standards, and it seems like i'll be okay. They put a lot of weight on the time that passed between the incident and now, as well as what you've done since. I'm just curious to hear from others if they've had any problems or pointers. I know full disclosure on both the law school app and bar app is paramount. Thanks ;)

Hey guys, I've decided the best study plan for myself is to take Pt's once or twice a week, then go back and essentially blind review by understanding where each of my mistakes were made (all while going through the lessons 7sage provides). On my second practice test after diagnostic, I jumped 3 points. Today on my third, I went down 1 point. In the scheme of things, I feel like this if anything was an improvement. While taking the third PT, I didn't feel very confident with a lot of the questions, and thought I did much worse than the second PT, however that was not the case. Anyways, back to the point of this, do you guys think this is a good strategy? I know I can't expect a point jump every test, but maybe after 20 PT's, my score will be up 10 points.

Will the pdf PTs we've already dowloaded onto our computer from 7sage disappear once the new policy hits? Forgive, i'm decent at logic but extermely challenged at technology...

I ran across this sometime ago and it really hit home. I'm feeling led to post it here in case some students out there need a boost.

Hi everyone.

I am so down because I practiced so hard and I scored nearly my initial diagnostic in the December LSAT. Initial diagnostic was a 154 and my LSAT score is 157. I was practicing at 164 average with 167 top score and blind reviewed in the 170s in the end. I knew i could keep going to get better to solidify but really wanted to get it out of the way since I have been studying 1.5 years on and off. I have 4 kids and I feel if I retake I might end up running out of time again. Taking very few full timed practice tests and finishing sections when I had gotten the kids snacks thinking to myself 'the time it took to pay attention to them I will just add to the end and it comes out as if I had cut off at 35 minutes.' was not working. I know I am t14 material with a 3.96 GPA and the capability to score 168 if I just can hurry up/prepare more focused. I don't know if I will ever have the chance. I don't want to schedule a retake and then just be crushed again. I used to be so bad on logic games and i actually thought the rug game was not that hard, was so proud. I actually only got 7 wrong on Logic Games which is great for me. I would score 165 and get 10 wrong on Logic Games. I am really really sad seeing my chances at Berkeley or Stanford slip away and having to settle for Santa Clara. What should I do?

Is this a website issue or the effect of the new licensing agreement? I thought 7Sage was safe until April 24th! I attempted to download them from a school computer to print, my Macbook Pro, and my Desktop.

I was wondering if there's any way I could possibly print each game on one sheet instead of two sheets? The games in the lessons with video explanations in the course all print on one page. So is there a way I could do that with the LG bundle? Since I've already printed every game from PT 1-35 before on two sheets I was hoping I could re-work all of these games again just by printing one sheet.

I'm already using 7Sage, I bought the regular version. I was wondering if the way Kaplan (In Class) teaches contradicts what 7sage teaches. I know there are bad reviews on Kaplan, but I know someone who took it here (Nevada) and they said it improved their score and the teacher was helpful. I know it's over $1000 but that really isn't a big issue. Just like the course says, why spend 4 years on your GPA and only 1 month on the LSAT if they are both considered equally? You could say the same for paying $30,000 on undergrad education but complaining about LSAT prep prices. (Not saying 7sage isn't a great course at an affordable value)

I thought I would get lucky and find most of the RC sections from PT 1-38 on 7Sage since I've been drilling from the Cambridge packets. Unfortunately they're not all in the ultimate course :(

If Jays, Martins, or both are in the forest then so are Harriers.

If J--> H

If M -> H , according to JY we should split when "or" is in the sufficient .

So what would the contro-positive be?

If not H-> not J?

If not H -> not M?

or would it be If not H -> not J and M ??

or is it if not H -> not J or M ?

Another question ....

But not both , or

Alan or Chris goes to park, but not both

If not A (-) C

If not C (-) A

so for not both, do we always just pick one throw it on either side of arrow and negate it?