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On Wednesday, August 25 at 9pm ET / 6pm PT, join 7Sage admissions consultants for a discussion on the start of the application cycle, updates to application instructions, and navigating the admissions process. There will be time reserved for a Q&A.

Clubhouse is now available to everyone! Use this link to RSVP and join Club 7Sage: https://www.clubhouse.com/join/club-7sage/S6uXYOEY/PvylQGJm.

We will record the session for those unable to attend and post it to our podcast, which is available via Apple, Google Play, and Spotify.

We hope to see you on Clubhouse!

Looking to see if there are any other lgbt+ folks in EST who would be interested in a study buddy?

Last take for me was 164, and I’m shooting for 170. It’d be great to also meet folx with similar score goals, but not required.

PS: happy late pride!

**3/24/2022 (This is a closed study group. This announcement is to those tagged.)

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Hello, Study Buddies!

I hope all is well and that studying has been going relatively smoothly. As you know, we are nearing the end of our second week of studying since we formed as a group-- go us!

I wanted to let you know that our GroupMe has been growing and the information, resources, and tips everyone has shared has been incredible. One of our most recent and exciting resources for our group is the opportunity to have an hour seminar with 7Sage’s Scott Milam.

As a group we are currently trying to find the best day and time to meet and are in the process of ironing out an agenda for our seminar, so if you have not had a chance to check out our GroupMe and pitch your ideas and availability, I encourage you to come to one of our study sessions or to reach out to me and communicate to get the link to our GroupMe if you don’t already have it. The poll to vote on the meeting time with Scott closes March 27 @ 9:35 PM PST in the GroupMe (that’s 3 days from now; the sooner you can vote, the better.)

Our burgeoning group of study buddies have been supportive and friendly and have far exceeded my expectations. To my study buddies that have been coming to the sessions and communicating with me and each other, thank you, you are truly amazing!

If you haven’t had a chance to drop in to a study session yet, or maybe you feel too much time has passed, or you feel awkward, or any number of reasons why, I want to let you know that you are still welcome in our group and that there are folks (including me) wanting to (e)meet you, encourage you, and study along side you. Please reach out and let’s get you plugged in.

Mark Twain once said, “The secret to getting ahead is getting started.”

-S.

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Does anyone’s else’s Nov Lsat notes say Score Validity Review?

I’m super nervous there’s not much info on exactly what it means. Seem like some people had theirs canceled and I’m am hoping that is not the case. Any insight would be helpful.

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Friday, May 05 2023

Improvements

I watched the first dozen lessons on reading comprehension and already I've improved. I would typically miss 3-4 questions in a batch of 7-8, and now I'm only missing 1/8, albeit, the most difficult question of the passage. So far, I'm very impressed with the lessons on here. Super helpful!

I read that some of you were looking for schools that offered prep courses/PTs and today I received an email from Faulkner Law. Not sure if anyone would be interested but it's on 3/21/15 at 9:30 AM.

"Maximize your test score by attending this free preparation course!

RSVP TODAY

If you can't attend this event in person, you can participate via webcast. Just RSVP accordingly.

Questions?

Call 334-386-7210"

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Tuesday, Oct 28

Drilling

Hello! I wanted to ask how do you guys do drilling, and how many questions should I do for drilling? It would mean a lot thank you!

Hey everyone! Does anybody know a way to markup on the questions/pretests on an ipad. Everytime I try it says I need owner permission (even when I try duplicating the file)! It would be nice to be able to use an apple pencil to write on the questions as I go along on either drills or preptests. Advice would be appreciated!

Dear JY and the 7Sage Team,

I am ecstatic to be applying to law school and its all because of your wonderful program. In 3 months I went from a 146 to a 159 (even though I was scoring 162 on the PTs!!). Nevertheless, I am so thankful that you have made this program affordable, comprehensive, and fun! Without 7Sage I may not be where I am today. Thank you so much!

Hi everyone,

My name is Ken Kim. Let me briefly introduce myself. I used to attend Northeastern University School of Pharmacy in Boston then transferred to the University of Utah Asia Campus in Songdo, Incheon. I graduated from the school in 2018 with a bachelor's degree in communication. I, then, enrolled at Johns Hopkins University Advanced Academic Program for my master's degree in communication. I graduated from the said school in 2021 and am currently committed full-time studying for the LSAT while doing a part-time tutoring for international students. I recently moved to Gangnam from Songdo, Incheon and am looking for friends to study with me at Gangnam Station. We can study at the Wing Study Cafe, which is literally right next to Exit 9 of Gangnam Station. The rate for using the study cafe per person is 1,700 KRW for each hour. We can meet up with up to four people due to the government restriction. I am currently doing the game section of the 7Sage CC. Please reply to this thread or send me a DM, and we can immediately get started with studying for the LSAT.

I understand the difference between either or and either or but not both

I am confused about the diagramming aspect and not sure if my way is correct

Either or (implies possibly both)

So, I think of this in negative terms (absence of a sufficient condition)

not A -> B

not B -> A

A -> may or may not have B (so AB is also possible)

versus

Either or but not both

So, I think of this in positive terms (presence of sufficient condition)

A -> not B

B -> not A

In this case, there no other possibility (both AB can never be possible)

Is there a way to show this using double sided arrows or double not arrows? I am confused about that.

I know that double sided arrows ((--)) are used for biconditionals like "if and only if" and "if but only if"

and double not arrows ((-I-)) are used for neither nor

Is my reasoning correct?

Somehow I think that I have gotten myself mixed up with all this conditional logic stuff

Another psychological tip for this section:

Unlike the rest of the LSAT, each question in this section is completely independent from the other. Therefore, it could be a little bit daunting to realize that all of your hard work doesn't "pay-off" for more than one single question. Moreover, the fact that you have to "start-again" 25 times and be accurate for all of these during 35 crappy minutes is a quite stressful thing. All of this invariably leads to one thing: over-anxious reading of the stimulus (since you don't care that much about the reading and the text seems to be on your way) and, on the other hand, over-relaxed/careless reading of the questions (since it feels like you're finally seeing the light and about to move on).

So here's a bit of a buddhist/dalai lama relaxing tip that some of you could use. Whenever you approach LR questions (specially those with long stimulus), try to tell yourself the story behind it. Actually USE body language to accompany each bloody sentence. So if the stimulus goes "Dogs tend to poo more in parks than in sideways" actually RELEASE the poop as you are reading it. And do not try to come up with a conclusion or a possible answer before reading the choices (except for the predictable questions that you should easily recognize if you're about to take the june thing) or at least don't over-emphasize that part. Read attentively and go through the answer options and READ THE OPTIONS with care, NOT with relief. This will help you avoid a lot of mistakes related to traps in the answer choices, and shell game traps where LSAT plants an idea in your head that throws you completely the other way.

Basically, strap your balls on while you're reading the text in the stimulus and don't release them while reading the answers (not just yet anyway).

Peace and good luck everyone!

[I am posting on behalf of a 7Sage user. Please feel free to leave your comments below. Thank you for your help!]

I've been studying with 7Sage for about a year now and I have a question regarding embedded conditionals. I know there's already a lesson on how to translate an embedded conditional; however, I found a weird conditional while studying the LSAT and was wondering how you would go about translating this one as it's the opposite of the embedded conditional.

What is taught in the embedded conditional module on 7Sage is that when you see, "If A, then /B unless C" you just translate it to, "A and B, then C"

I understand this. But while studying LR, I found an unusual type of embedded conditional that goes the other way around. How would you go about translating this? The embedded conditional, I forgot what specific PT/ question, said something along the lines of: "/A unless B, then C." Just confused on how to translate this as this is not the same as the former example provided by J.Y. Would it still be the same translation? I don't think it would, right?

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/mastery-embedded-conditional/

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/mastery-embedded-conditional-proof/?ss_completed_lesson=1107

So guys, I found a strategy that worked for me on logic games and this may not necessarily work for everyone.

But with days before the test day, for those of you who are struggling with logic games this MAY help you out. The sections I struggle with the most are RC and LR, hence I spent a lot of my time on these sections to improve my score while I neglected LG a bit since everyone was saying it's the easiest section to improve on.

I went from scoring -6 on LG to 0/-2 in only a few days.

This is what I did. Last week, I reviewed all the CC logic game videos (ie. I watched JY do the diagramming/questions for each type of game type not including the problem sets). I already did the problem sets in the past but it was a while since I touched logic games and I wasn't scoring as high as I would like.

Logic games is one of those sections that you can improve on. People on this forum aren't lying!! Thank you to everyone who helped me out with games btw!

After going through all the CC videos, I would recommend doing some of the games on the CC if you found it pretty hard to follow along with JY's inferences/diagrams etc. I know the miscellaneous games can be pretty nerve-racking but honestly, those games all involve the basics that we have been taught with logic games. Diagramming for misc. games might be the most difficult part but I would honestly recommend visualizing the scenario in your head. This helps a lot with diagramming, especially for me. I feel like once you dive into the game.. they aren't actually that hard since they involve the same type of questions etc. Reviewing the CC videos again just refreshed my mind with the possible types of logic games and I tried to draw the same types of inferences that JY was drawing. The games are really repetitive hence why I think this approach worked.

After I had re-watched the CC logic games videos, I printed 1-2 copies of PT 60-82 sections. I did all the sections timed and then re did the games or sections that I really had trouble with timed. I can honestly say, this process has helped me so much with logic games.

I obviously am pretty proficient with the conditional rules, diagramming, etc. so I found majority of the games to be pretty easy.

Again, this worked for me and may not work for everyone but I think it was worth sharing!

Feel free to ask me questions below incase I missed anything!

Good luck on the December test everyone!

Can’t believe I’m writing this but I just got my first acceptance of the cycle. Penn State offered me a full ride (including for the second and third years) and I’m beyond surprised. I’m an international student, so I don’t know much about it. It was one of my last choices when applying but after getting a full ride + reading about it online, I’m actually quite intrigued! I was wondering if anyone else on here was also accepted or is currently studying there? Would love to know what it’s like, what the town is like, etc. Thanks!

Hey all! I have been wanting to search for threads to see what people are saying about the LSAT-FLEX. However, when trying to search for anything related to the FLEX in the search bar, nothing relevant is provided in the search... anyone else having this or a related issue in the discussion search? Thank you!

Proctors: Experienced professionals. Absolutely silent during test.

Facilities: Fine, it's an older building but restrooms were clean, close, and large enough to accommodate everyone. Proctors asked us about room temperature before test and after returning from break and adjusted according to our feedback. Test room big and spacious with lots of light and nothing to distract.

What kind of room: Big amphitheater layout.

How many in the room:10 - 20

Desks: Very large desks running the length of the room. More space than you could ever use. I probably had about 10 yards of desk space all to myself. Comfortable chairs and lots of room between test takers.

Left-handed accommodation: I'm not entirely sure what this means, but each test taker had so much space on either side that I can't imagine that any further accommodation would be possible.

Noise levels: Silent.

Parking: Plenty of parking immediately in front of building, except Oct 2015 when there was a football game that day. Always check the football schedule at any university with a team if testing in the fall. As far as that went, there was adequate parking about 5-10 minutes walk from the test center, which was kind of nice actually.

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

Pretty quick, about 30-40 minutes maybe.

Irregularities or mishaps: Across 3 takes, they forgot the five minute warning once. It happens: They got 17/18, so that seems within an acceptable margin of error to me. They also let one guy go to the bathroom between checking in and the test starting. Seems perfectly reasonable to me, but technically a violation. On my last take they said to put our pencil sharpeners away, lol. She said she didn't want us wasting time on sharpening pencils (which I agree with, you shouldn't do), but technically we are allowed to have our sharpeners on our desk. They had brought lots of sharpened pencils for us and made sure everyone without lots of pencils of their own had enough that they would not need to sharpen. Kind of sweet actually, but I would have liked to have my pencil sharpener just out of a sense of comfort.

Other comments: This is my alma mater which gave me a huge sense of familiarity. I felt right at home and I think this is a significant factor in choosing a test center. I'd only rank it below big desks and good proctors. There's enough test day stress without having to figure out where you're going. If your alma mater isn't an option though, or if the facilities aren't adequate, you can't go wrong with Southern Miss.

Would you take the test here again?

Absolutely.

Date[s] of Exam[s]:

Oct 2015

Dec 2015

Sept 2016

Hi everyone! I am looking to restudy for my LSAT I took the LSAT in 2017 and decided I to get my masters from NYU in Global Affairs rather than law school. I am now on the road back to law school and looking to take my LSAT either in Nov. or Jan depending on what my diagnostic scores are ranging.

My goal is to crunch for the November LSAT to get into a January start program but that might change depending on my school choices!

I also think a GC would help and scheduled study dates to help hold each other accountable for LSAT studying!

Discussion Title: Study Group/ Accountability Group

👥 Study Group Name:

🔢 I'm currently scoring: NA

📆 My planned test date: Maybe November depending how far I get

📈 To study, I have been: Following 7Sage Study Schedule

🔑 My goals for this group are: to hold each other accountable, to hear other perspectives, support each other, study together

🔍 We'll focus on: Reading Comprehension, Logic Games, Logical Reasoning

📚 When we'll meet and what we'll do: Either in person or online

✅ How to join: Reply below!

Proctors: There were about 3-4 proctors circulating the room, with 1 main proctor reading off the instructions and calling time. When monitoring us, they were very quiet and did not linger for long when passing through the tables. I don't believe I ever heard them whispering during the test either. (Granted, I was towards the back and no one near me asked questions during the test.) With enforcing the rules, I was quite surprised at how strict they were as we were only allowed to wear our jackets if the hood was tucked in. Otherwise, there were no jackets allowed on the backs of our chairs. With the exception of the timing mishap below, I would consider them to be quite good overall.

Facilities: Each floor had men's, women's, and accessible washrooms. Though there was a lineup to use them, it didn't take long as there were about 5-6 stalls available (at least for the women's side). They were very clean as well. For drinking fountains, I don't believe there were any, but you could refill your water bottle on the first floor (only if your test was on that floor) at the refill station.

What kind of room: It was a huge classroom (capacity: 188) inside the Swing Building with fixed, long tables and rotatable chairs. There are stairs to walk down to the front of the room with each level comprised of three rows of tables (i.e. smaller at both ends). In terms of wheelchair access, it is only available at the front and back of the classroom.

How many in the room: I believe there were about 6-7 rows of us with about 10 per row spaced one seat apart, so probably about 60-70 students in our room alone? We were randomly assigned to rooms when we first entered the building. I believe there were 4 rooms in total (i.e. 2 on the first floor and 2 on the second floor), though I don't know how many students were in those rooms.

Desks: These were fixed, long tables with rotatable chairs attached—the ideal desktop to do a test on because it's spacious and comfortable!

Left-handed accommodation: This was not necessary due to the long tables.

Noise levels: Minimal, especially if you've practiced with the distractions on the 7Sage proctor. As I said, I don't recall hearing any of the proctors whispering during the sections. At most, there was just the rustling of pages and the occasional cough. Students chattered a bit during the break, but it was at a tolerable noise level given testing conditions.

Parking: West Parkade is right next door and has plenty of parking space. Because it was snowing that day, there was some backup of cars prior to and after the test.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: I actually arrived at the test centre at 7:20AM and was lucky to have the building open already. Check-in started prior to 8:30AM and I believe the test commenced shortly after 9AM (due to how slow we were in the admin process).

Irregularities or mishaps: In the fourth section, the proctor forgot to call the 5-minute mark but still ended the section at the proper time. However, this caught several students off-guard, resulting in some commotion (approximately 1-2 minutes) between one student and the proctor prior to the start of the final section. The proctor told us that he could not give us more time but he would make a note of it to LSAC and we could file a complaint if need be.

Other comments: I highly recommend taking the LSAT here if you live in Vancouver!

Would you take the test here again? Definitely! In fact, I chose it over a location closer to me because I was more familiar with it and knew it would be reliable.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: February 4, 2017.

What DOES make a Democracy not a well-functioning one?????

Find out tonight at Group BR!

Wednesday, Nov 11th at 8PM ET: PT52

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Note:

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  • For the regulars: If for some reason you're not in the group conversation[s] already, just message me on Skype.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it."
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
  • Greetings, 7Sagers!

    On Tuesday, February 25 at 8pm ET, join 7Sage admissions consultants Taj McCoy and Dr. Sam Riley for another panel discussion with law school admissions deans from across the country. For this conversation, hear from representatives of Boston College, Catholic University, Howard University, Loyola University Chicago, Loyola Los Angeles, the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, as they weigh in on the state of admissions in February and provide tips to help prepare for campus visits over admitted student weekends and making scholarship reconsideration requests. The audience will be able to submit questions on this topic throughout the session via the Q&A widget.

    *Note: The session will be recorded and will be posted to our podcast after it's edited for sound quality.

    Register: https://7sage.zoom.us/meeting/register/Wh_2DozWQHWiHcVFDwJ-nw

    Study Group Name: Blind Reviewing as Group.

    🔢 I'm currently scoring: 140+

    📆 My planned test date: January 2024

    📈 To study, I have been taking practice tests and using Josh Aldy's Time Management Performance Tracker .

    🔑 My goals for this group are: to blind review with each other before viewing the results and then come to a consensus on the correct answer on the questions we have selected different answers for prior to grading.

    🔍 We'll focus on: PT's 1-94, randomly selected

    📚 We will meet in the 7Sage Discord - Study Group 1 on Mondays and Fridays at 9:30 AM CT

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